BoboNkiti19:

Bro Jos beats anywhere in your region outside of Lagos HANDS DOWN, abeg don't even go there! Do you or have you traveled out of your enclave before?

Lol, what does this hermaphrodite knows?

Nowenuse:


Hei God. Yes, Kano city is a big cosmopolitan city, but you cannot compare it to a Southern/Middlebelt city of similar size due to the culture and nature of the people there!!

No part of Hausa land has majority of it's people educated. Or do u want to argue on this fact now?
How else do u want Kano to be different? Yes, there are settlers in Kano, but what percentage of the population are these settlers compared to the Hausa fulanis?

What is the literacy rate of Kano? What is the percentage of middle-class citizens there?

Can you compare the more educated and middle-class citizens of a place like PH, their purchasing power and consumption taste of varieties with that of a place like Kano city where almajiris alone make up 25% of the city's population?
Or do u think Kano is just the central developed area alone?

what a contradiction, you agree Kano is cosmopolitan and you say majority are illiterates. Your definition of illiteracy is the problem. A city that has such massive volume of trade, the largest in the north cannot be term as a city that has majority of illiterates,never never. Illiterates plenty for Lagos too o

Goke7:


SMEs don't make Lagos, Industries do my dear, how may employees these SMEs employ and how much do these EMEs employees earn for Lagos to make huge revenue from their personal income taxes?

The bigger industries employees with huge salaries are the ones with enough disposable income to afford what the industries produce

Later now, you people will say I am the one arguing based on emotions.

So you truly believe that in Lagos State, the Industries employ more people than the SMEs?

myobjective:


The Agriculture of the 21st century will be defined by how well it can be commercialized and mechanized. Through, landmass, and cheaper labour will play a role but such a role will be hugely limited.

For example, Thailand is the largest exporter of processed Cassava product, earning more than $4billion dollars from the export of this product despite having a much smaller cultivated land compared to Nigeria. What they have been able to do is mechanized it and operate the farm as a business.

Today, Majority of the largest integrated farms are in Yoruba land. The capital is in the west, the biggest market is in the west and manpower is also in the west. It is just a matter of time before the west become an industry leader in Agro-based business in Africa( we already a leader in Nigeria)

That was the same thing I said, unless with serious govt intervention and investment will Yorubaland ever be self sufficient in Food production.
And this will only be possible in an Oodua nation.

Besides, what will you people do about crops that do not grow in your area? I know u will say Genetic modification

Nowenuse:


Later now, you people will say I am the one arguing based on emotions.

So you truly believe that in Lagos State, the Industries employ more people than the SMEs?

Nowenuse, you haven't replied to this mention. I will continue to troll you until you take back your words about Jos being better than other SW states except Lagos. You should man up and take the challenge or take back your words.

I am waiting!

Again the bolded is nonesense. I have told you on the other thread to engage me about Jos and Ibadan but you keep evading me.

Let us open a thread now and use strictly google earth to compare the best part Jos city and Ibadan city. If jos beats Ibadan in terms of Infrastructure, planning, beauty from space, etc. I will deactivate my Nairaland Moniker.

We will use strictly google earth to compare the two and you we can open a separate thread. Are you game?

Goke7:


Ilorin is a yoruba city and will remain so, even the emir there na yoruba, whatever narrative you have been told is your own headache and have you seen anybody who hails from Ilorin speaking any other language than yoruba?

My guy you need to travel, nairaland has fed you with so much lies

Lol, do you think you have travelled Nigeria more than I have?

Oga, apart from a few core northern states, there is no other state in Nigeria that I have not been to.

Bros, forget that Ilorin speaking Yoruba of a thing.

The fulani Emirs in Nupeland speak Nupe and can hardly speak Hausa, but it doesn't change the fact that they are of fulani ancestry and owe their allegiance to the Sultan of Sokoto.

All the Emirs in the NW, how many of them can speak Fulfude? Does that stop them from being fulanis?

It seems like you people have still not understood how Fulanis operate in Nigeria ooo.

Nowenuse:


Later now, you people will say I am the one arguing based on emotions.

So you truly believe that in Lagos State, the Industries employ more people than the SMEs?

do you know how many industries are in Lagos, there are industries in Lagos people don't know about but they employ thousands at a go. SMEs no get mouth for Lagos and that's the hidden secret of Lagos. The Maritime Industry in Lagos alone employs a very large pool that thousands of SMEs together cannot match. We never talk of FMCG that will swallow what ever number the SMEs have.

if SMEs in Lagos are really employing, the unemployment rate in Lagos will go down very quickly, The only SMEs in Lagos that are trying are private schools that employ teachers and other auxiliary staff like bus drivers and care givers ; they are the ones helping matters.

Nowenuse:


Lol, do you think you have travelled Nigeria more than I have?

Oga, apart from a few core northern states, there is no other state in Nigeria that I have not been to.

Bros, forget that Ilorin speaking Yoruba of a thing.

The fulani Emirs in Nupeland speak Nupe and can hardly speak Hausa, but it doesn't change the fact that they are of fulani ancestry and owe their allegiance to the Sultan of Sokoto.

All the Emirs in the NW, how many of them can speak Fulfude? Does that stop them from being fulanis?

It seems like you people have still not understood how Fulanis operate in Nigeria ooo.

because you have been the one driving round every town I have visited in Nigeria abi?

if its even Ilorin you are talking about then you are ignorant, forgiveness has answered this very well for you, just read his post and get more educated

Nowenuse:


That was the same thing I said, unless with serious govt intervention and investment will Yorubaland ever be self sufficient in Food production.
And this will only be possible in an Oodua nation.

Besides, what will you people do about crops that do not grow in your area? I know u will say Genetic modification

Bro, let me tell you something you don't know. The greatest asset of the Yoruba nation is the intellectual resources. That is why we are better and why we will excel in any endeavor we find ourselves in.

How do countries get the food they don't produce? They import!

Even the Agriculture that the North always shout that they own. I was going through the NBS statistics of Nigeria Agriculture exports for Q3 2019 and you can see that the SW is a region to beat. We are part of the zone that contibute to the Agric export as evident in the cocoa and even certain shares of Cashew nuts.

What is Agriculture without Agri-economics? What is hardwork without brain power? Those are what distinguishes the middle-belt and the Yorubas.

Source:NBS

LegendHero:


Bro, let me tell you something you don't know. The greatest asset of the Yoruba nation is the intellectual resources. That is why we are better and why we will excel in any endeavor we find ourselves in.

How do countries get the food they don't produce? They import!

Even the Agriculture that the North always shout that they own. I was going through the NBS statistics of Nigeria Agriculture exports for Q3 2019 and you can see that the SW is a region to beat. We are part of the zone that contibute to the Agric export as evident in the cocoa and even certain shares of Cashew nuts.

What is Agriculture without Agri-economics? What is hardwork without brain power? Those are what distinguishes the middle-belt and the Yorubas.

Source:NBS

This is what the igbos and others in Nigeria continue to debate and still lag behind the SW in this

Nowenuse:


Lol, do you think you have travelled Nigeria more than I have?

Oga, apart from a few core northern states, there is no other state in Nigeria that I have not been to.

Bros, forget that Ilorin speaking Yoruba of a thing.

The fulani Emirs in Nupeland speak Nupe and can hardly speak Hausa, but it doesn't change the fact that they are of fulani ancestry and owe their allegiance to the Sultan of Sokoto.

All the Emirs in the NW, how many of them can speak Fulfude? Does that stop them from being fulanis?

It seems like you people have still not understood how Fulanis operate in Nigeria ooo.

Ilorin is strictly a religious affair, why can't you guys just understand this?

How are the Fulanis controlling Kwara/Ilorin in the present dispensation. What is the power of the Fulanis on the Kwara/Ilorin architecture in general? Do they constitute the highest number of elected officials, political power, economic power, religious power, educational intellectuals, and etc. What exactly do you mean by controlling?

Nowenuse:


That was the same thing I said, unless with serious govt intervention and investment will Yorubaland ever be self sufficient in food production.
And this will only be possible in an Oodua nation.

Besides, what will you people do about crops that do not grow in your area? I know u will say Genetic modification

The Yorubaland is so blessed that it has all the vegetation zones apart from the Sahel Savannah (which is useless).

These are the vegetation zones in Yorubaland and the crops grown in these areas.
1. Rainforest in states like Ogun, Ondo, Sun, Oyo, Ekiti. This vegetation zone is where most of the fruit, timbers, tuber crops, cash crops etc are produced.

2. Guinea Savannah in states like Oyo, Ogun, Kwara and Yoruba part of Kogi. This is the vegetation zones where the cassava, Yam, cashew and other cash crops can be grown.

3. Sudan Savannah in Kwara state is where most of the cereal crops, Tomatoes, pepper, sugarcane etc can grow.

We have the landmass to be self-sufficient in the production of food and cash crop in Yoruba land.

BoboNkiti19:

Oponu me run away from an Afonja vermin? be like say your useless papa no born you well abi? The fact that I don't reply you on time should tell you I have a productive life outside of Nairaland thar rightfully occupies the better part of my leisure. Ten of your useless brothers engaged me the other day and I still singlehandedly took them apart, e come be a fuccking toad like you wey remain? I'm not a born loser like you whose beginning and end of existence is defined on NL!

How far, when will you invite your friends to come and folk your daughter too like one of your fathers in imo. On seeing the headline, I knew it is osuland . No be today una don dey sleep with una daughters and even see the pikin they have for una. Why Dem no see you on the thread

LegendHero:


Nowenuse, you haven't replied to this mention. I will continue to troll you until you take back your words about Jos being better than other SW states except Lagos. You should man up and take the challenge or take back your words.

I am waiting!

I don't know how come I always forget to reply this post of yours even when I say I will reply it.

Okay, See. Ibadan is more than twice the size of Jos okay? Ibadan has more fine areas than Jos, but at the same time Ibadan has more terrible looking areas than Jos! Simple fact.

So, if we compare the beautiful areas of Ibadan & Jos, how about the terrible areas? Do we ignore them?

Also, the beauty of Jos cannot be appreciated from Google Earth, cos Google maps cannot show you the topography of a city!

What makes Jos better than Ibadan is the greenery, topography and weather. For example, Google maps may show a certain neighbourhood of Jos from above to look congested, but in reality that place is not as terrible as a typical congested area in the south, because of it's undulating topography.

So, what exactly should we be comparing between Jos & Ibadan?

Kaduna & Ibadan seems like a better comparison for me cos Kaduna is bigger and has a flatter topography like a typical Southern city.. But Kaduna will be suicide for your Ibadan

Goke7:


in what area abeg? fineness or what? I have been to Jos but have you been to non state capitals in the sw like ondo town, Ilesha, Sagamu, Ijebu-ode, Ife, offa, ogbomoso, oyo, ota and so on. You guys see pictures on nairaland and conclude only Lagos is the only city in south west. na wa for una

Those areas you mentioned are slums dude, why do you guys keep faking all these poshness when we have traveled and seen your region in its entirety? stop these nonsense abeg, only Lagos is the best thing you guys have got to offer.

Westtimeline:
Lol, what does this hermaphrodite knows?

It's "know" not "knows", Dindinrin oshi

Goke7:


This is what the igbos and others in Nigeria continue to debate and still lag behind the SW in this

What level of academic and intellectual achievements have you attained that the Igbos haven't already had in the bag? you do know we can go on about this for as long as possible, but when you are asked to bring your own facts, you start going off on a different tangent. How exactly are Igbos lagging behind you guys?

Nowenuse:

I don't know how come I always forget to reply this post of yours even when I say I will reply it.

No you don't always forget. You just can't substantiate your claims and you purposely ignore.

Okay, See. Ibadan is more than twice the size of Jos okay? Ibadan has more fine areas than Jos, but at the same time Ibadan has more terrible looking areas than Jos! Simple fact.

Size does not matter. Lagos is smaller in size and still the best state in Nigeria. Even the brown roofs in Ibadan is better than those haggard looking mushroom building from Jos. I repeat those brown roof beats the terrible looking part of jos. At least those brown roofs have storey building with many rooms while those of Jos are just like the Hut and cave houses.

@bolded, when you know that Ibadan have more finer places and better planned than Jos, why do you keep talking recklessly on Nairaland about Jos being better than any SW states except Lagos? We haven't even brought Akure into the equation yet!

So, if we compare the beautiful areas of Ibadan & Jos, how about the terrible areas? Do we ignore them?

Addressed this up there. Those brown roofs in Ibadan are miles better than the terrible part of Jos that are just like huts.

Also, the beauty of Jos cannot be appreciated from Google Earth, cos Google maps cannot show you the topography of a city!

What does this mean? Who gives a bleep about topography without development? Are you speaking about topography when you falsely calimed Jos is better than any SW states except Lagos? Now you son't seems to have much integrity bro.

What makes Jos better than Ibadan is the greenery, topography and weather. For example, Google maps may show a certain neighbourhood of Jos from above to look congested, but in reality that place is not as terrible as a typical congested area in the south, because of it's undulating topography.

C'mon bro, is city beauty only about topography? So topography is your own definition of better cities? What did I just read?

So, what exactly should we be comparing between Jos & Ibadan?

This question is what I am also suprised at. What even gave you the audacity to compare Jos and Ibadan in the first place? Is it about Number of malls, no of industries, IGR, education, housing estates, GRA, people, purchasing power, liveliness, etc. Where exactly does Jos beat Ibadan?

Kaduna & Ibadan seems like a better comparison for me cos Kaduna is bigger and has a flatter topography like a typical Southern city.. But Kaduna will be suicide for your Ibadan

Lol, you see you are changing your stance? You have now deviated from Jos being better than Ibadan. Thank God this is settled!

People can now see that you have taken back your word.

For Kaduna, I am also ready to compare the better part of Kaduna with Ibadan for educational purpose and see what is even in that Kaduna self. Are you game to compare the best part of both state

LegendHero:


This again is a lie. Agriculture in the current period is about machinery and researches into how to increase yield faster.

The Yoruba nation have the landmass and fertile soil for those agricultural produce. With education and intellectual resources, we will be able to devise better machinery and technical know how on how to increase yield for those crops and beat anything the Middlebelt/North can produce with their not-too-advanced farming system.

To cite a better example, see USA for example. They are able to increase yield using scientific method such that the USA were able to produce food in large quantities for their populations. They are not farming with the manual system where you have to wait for rain to fall or depend on those useless fertilizers that don't give high yield.

During my masters, I partook in a research for a company called Syngenta in Greensboro, NC. If you see the method/chemicals that these guys are using for their farming system and the yield it could bring, you will weep for Africa.

hence, because you have vast land does not mean you will excel in Agriculture. Stop attributing too much importance to yourself.

How can u be comparing USA that is so big in size and Landmass to Yoruba land?

Are u aware that Yorubaland is not up to 100,000 km²? It is like 80-90,000km² with over 40 million citizens.

Now, compare it with a middlebelt country that would be 300,000km² with only 30 million citizens.


Yes, Vastlands does not necessarily equal large production, but do you think our people would be sleeping when you guys are improving your produces?
Do u know that there is a very big Yoruba farmer in Nasarawa state with acres of lands? He rents land there at a giveaway price and employs natives at a giveaway price. Why did he go to Nasarawa and did not go to Oyo state?
He knows that the amount u will get land in the middlebelt would be ¼ of the price he gets in the SW and he can never get natives at such a cheaper price to work for him.


See, get me when I say that, it will require extra efforts and commitment for you guys to be self sufficient in Food when we are your neighbors!

Can you tell me why any Yoruba leader will be willing to spend millions of dollars into agricultural research, modification & mechanization when you guys can get every food you need nextdoor at a giveaway price?

Why are all American manufacturers relocating to China? No matter how much the govt is trying to encourage manufacturers to invest in USA, they refuse!
The reason is simple! These manufacturers will get everything they need in China at a far cheaper amount they will get in USA.

Can u argue the fact that an educated Yoruba of the same qualification with a middlebelter will be willing to collect a lower income to carry out a certain job than that middlebelter will collect?

Cc Myobjective

I have gone through this thread and come across so many insults against the Yoruba people, please if you are Yoruba and reading this, please from this point forward let's start boycotting everything igbo. I used to love them from their culture to music to food, but since I got close to them and see how they reason I have lost that love and since started boycotting them. Please there's nothing they offer you can't get from a Yoruba man, please lets start taking our money and love and start investing it in Yoruba owned business. And this is not coming from a place of hate, I still want them to prosper and grow in leaps and bounds, but my money, time and future of my kin will not be involved in the process. Let each man hold onto his own

myobjective:


The Yorubaland is so blessed that it has all the vegetation zones apart from the Sahel Savannah (which is useless).

These are the vegetation zones in Yorubaland and the crops grown in these areas.
1. Rainforest in states like Ogun, Ondo, Sun, Oyo, Ekiti. This vegetation zone is where most of the fruit, timbers, tuber crops, cash crops etc are produced.

2. Guinea Savannah in states like Oyo, Ogun, Kwara and Yoruba part of Kogi. This is the vegetation zones where the cassava, Yam, cashew and other cash crops can be grown.

3. Sudan Savannah in Kwara state is where most of the cereal crops, Tomatoes, pepper, sugarcane etc can grow.

We have the landmass to be self-sufficient in the production of food and cash crop in Yoruba land.

Ogbeni, the Sudan Savannah in Kwara state does not belong to the Yorubas! It is mostly in Kwara north and it belongs to the Nupes & Baribas!

Yorubas don't have up to 10,000km² of Sudan Savannah.

Do you have a subtropical climate like Plateau state & Mambilla (Taraba), where you can grow Tea, Strawberries, Irish potatoes, Carrots, Cabbages, e.t.c?

BoboNkiti19:

What level of academic and intellectual achievements have you attained that the Igbos haven't already had in the bag? you do know we can go on about this for as long as possible, but when you are asked to bring your own facts, you start going off on a different tangent. How exactly are Igbos lagging behind you guys?

Nobel Prize dey pain una die

Nowenuse:


How can u be comparing USA that is so big in size and Landmass to Yoruba land?

Are u aware that Yorubaland is not up to 100,000 km²? It is like 80-90,000km² with over 40 million citizens.

Now, compare it with a middlebelt country that would be 300,000km² with only 30 million citizens.


Yes, Vastlands does not necessarily equal large production, but do you think our people would be sleeping when you guys are improving your produces?
Do u know that there is a very big Yoruba farmer in Nasarawa state with acres of lands? He rents land there at a giveaway price and employs natives at a giveaway price. Why did he go to Nasarawa and did not go to Oyo state?
He knows that the amount u will get land in the middlebelt would be ¼ of the price he gets in the SW and he can never get natives at such a cheaper price to work for him.


See, get me when I say that, it will require extra efforts and commitment for you guys to be self sufficient in Food when we are your neighbors!

Can you tell me why any Yoruba leader will be willing to spend millions of dollars into agricultural research, modification & mechanization when you guys can get every food you need nextdoor at a giveaway price?

Why are all American manufacturers relocating to China? No matter how much the govt is trying to encourage manufacturers to invest in USA, they refuse!
The reason is simple! These manufacturers will get everything they need in China at a far cheaper amount they will get in USA.

Can u argue the fact that an educated Yoruba of the same qualification with a middlebelter will be willing to collect a lower income to carry out a certain job than that middlebelter will collect?

Cc Myobjective

The USA and china examples you cited here is not applicable in Agriculture. We are not talking about industries here so we should stick to the subject.

Yes, cheap labor is very good and it will determine a lot. But water will always find its own level. The Yoruba government will have no choice than to invest in Agriculture research and I am using USA example to show you how much research and technical know how can increase yield.

When you have the machinery and technical know-how, the need for manual labor for planting will drastically reduce coz machine can do what a laborer will do with high yield. Why are USA farmers successful? It is not only about their lands, it is about the technique. 10 farmers in USA with the right machinery/chemicals will outperform 1000 farmers down here doing the job manually.

@ the bolded, you are looking at this one way. What if the Yorubas start giving the middle-belt incentives of coming to the Yoruba nation on a type of visa and paying them lower fee to do the farming activities in Yoruba land. Just like Americans bringing lot of mexicans on USA soil for the meat processing industry and pay them low wages. Don't you think that is a possibility too?

Ibohomosexuals are champions of miracle centres in WAEC

https://allafrica.com/stories/201407220204.html

omonnakoda:


Nobel Prize dey pain una die

There are more decorated Igbo scholars in the field of literature, look up the top ten contemporary writers Africa has produced and see how Igbo writers dominate that list, after Wole Soyinka which other prolific writers una get? even Chimamanda Adichie has won more scholarly awards than any Yoruba writer that I know so far.

totit:



This is absolutely true though.

Below, a Google, intl research confirmed it ;

https://www.nairaland.com/5617764/se-dominates-homosexuals-list-nigeria

Ibohomosexuals disgracing Nigeria upandan

BoboNkiti19:

There are more decorated Igbo scholars in the field of literature, look up the top ten contemporary writers Africa has produced and see how Igbo writers dominate that list, after Wole Soyinka which other prolific writers una get? even Chimamanda Adichie has won more scholarly awards than any Yoruba writer that I know so far.

Yes but the Nobel prize dey pain una sha

Ferry ferry painful

On two levels

That you did not get it

That a Yorubacman got it

Very hard to swallow for Ibohomosexuals

BoboNkiti19:

There are more decorated Igbo scholars in the field of literature, look up the top ten contemporary writers Africa has produced and see how Igbo writers dominate that list, after Wole Soyinka which other prolific writers una get? even Chimamanda Adichie has won more scholarly awards than any Yoruba writer that I know so far.

You know nothing about literature is Adichie in the same league with Ben Okri from the Niger Delta?

You think literature is about self promotion?

You are not even second in Nigeria

Nowenuse:


Ogbeni, the Sudan Savannah in Kwara state does not belong to the Yorubas! It is mostly in Kwara north and it belongs to the Nupes & Baribas!

Yorubas don't have up to 10,000km² of Sudan Savannah.

Do you have a subtropical climate like Plateau state & Mambilla (Taraba), where you can grow Tea, Strawberries, Irish potatoes, Carrots, Cabbages, e.t.c?

Ignorant

the Northernmost part of Oyo state is at a higher latitude than Benue state and same as Abuja

forgiveness:


These are those responsible for installing an Emir in Ilorin.

Whenever the throne of the emirate (which is vested in the Fulani descendants of Shehu Alimi) is vacant, the representative of each quarter in the Emirate namely; the Balogun Gambari (Hausa), the Balogun Ajikobi (Yoruba), the Balogun Fulani (Fulani) and the Balogun Alanamu (Yoruba) - along with the head of the Afonja chieftaincy family, the Mogaji Aare, and his sub-chief called the Baba Isale of Ilorin - come together to elect and install a new emir,

Do the Igbos dominate the Service sector of Lagos state?

LegendHero:


Ilorin is strictly a religious affair, why can't you guys just understand this?

How are the Fulanis controlling Kwara/Ilorin in the present dispensation. What is the power of the Fulanis on the Kwara/Ilorin architecture in general? Do they constitute the highest number of elected officials, political power, economic power, religious power, educational intellectuals, and etc. What exactly do you mean by controlling?

Seriously, I wonder why you guys take so much time and efforts to explain your cowardice of Ilorin, when u could have chanelled that effort into something that could have made more meaning.

No matter how u guys try to wish Ilorin away by speaking English, it will never ever go away.
Ilorin remains under the jurisdiction and subserviency of the Sokoto caliphate as long as there is an Emir there who is an extension of the Sokoto caliphate, full stop!


Many Northern minorities have broken out of these satanic Emirates and guess what, they did it with violence! That's some balls you guys are yet to develop.

Southern Kaduna people started revolting against Fulani Emirates in their midst from the 1987 Kafanchan riots down to the 1992 Zangon Kataf crisis where they made sure no Hausa fulani person survived from that town!
By the time they displayed their madness again in 2000 Sharia crisis, the Hausa fulani governor then had no option but to create their chiefdoms for them by force.

Is that not the same thing Sayawa people did in Tafawa Balewa? Go and tell any Fulani man that ties a bedsheet on his head to enter that town and go and do Emir again, he will slap you! Cos when Sayawa people descended on them in 2011, even the Emir district head then was chased away with his bedsheet on his head running for his life

Mubi Emir always sent subemirs to rule Michika town (Adamawa) and when the last one died and a new one was coming in, Michika boys dared him to come into the town if they will not behead him, the idiiot had to reverse back to Mubi with his bedsheet on his head and that is how till date no Fulani idiiot can enter Michika town to claim he wants to rule.
The indigenes coronated their own king even though the state govt has refused to recognize them. That is what is called BALLS.

That is why I laught at those who call my people weak because of fulani herdsmen hit and run tactics. The day all our tribes will unite and say enough is enough, that day will mark the beginning of the end of Nigeria .... And this I can promise everyone will happen in less than 4 years from now.