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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Godx: 6:38pm On Apr 16, 2020
afrodoc2:


Single game or the whole tournament?
Whole tournament.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 6:42pm On Apr 16, 2020
The 200m is just to scare clubs (like arsenal cheesy cheesy) away,.. Levy also quoted high price for Berbatov back then,.....Ferguson still got his man on the last day of transfer (dont forget we hv Ronaldo, Rooney,Tevez,Manucho, Macheda,Welbeck that same year)..........

On a normal sense if Eden Hazard is worth 150m (this range) at 28/29 years old, Kane should/can be 200m at 26 years.

Tottenham are finding it hard to pay their staffs because of covid -19, we can negotiate something,Kane also want to leave.

Alex Ferguson would hv signed him since self,he doesnt joke with the capture of top strikers,..... Kane still got at least 7 good years in him.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by spillo1: 6:43pm On Apr 16, 2020
Godx:
I have this random question to ask. Anyone interested give and answer with your reason. What in your opinion is the greatest individual performance in an entire Cup tournament( World cup, Champions league, Euros) etc.
Maradonna 1986 World cup.

This has to be the greatest individual performance by a player in a tournament. His 5goals and 5assists don't even tell the whole story.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:47pm On Apr 16, 2020
Godx:

Whole tournament.

Maradona 86.
Nobody has dominated a tournament in that way before. That’s the only occasion I know of that everybody accepted that there was a big gap between the best player in the World Cup and every other player.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Melvyn11: 6:49pm On Apr 16, 2020
Godx:
I have this random question to ask. Anyone interested give and answer with your reason. What in your opinion is the greatest individual performance in an entire Cup tournament( World cup, Champions league, Euros) etc.
Ronaldo Champions league 2016/2017. He scored 10 goals from the quarter finals to the finals including Hatricks against Bayern and Atletico Madrid with a brace against Juventus in the final. That's why they call him Mr Champions league.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:51pm On Apr 16, 2020
Expert17:
The 200m is just to scare clubs (like arsenal cheesy cheesy) away,.. Levy also quoted high price for Berbatov back then,.....Ferguson still got his man on the last day of transfer (dont forget we hv Ronaldo, Rooney,Tevez,Manucho, Macheda,Welbeck that same year)..........

On a normal sense if Eden Hazard is worth 150m (this range) at 28/29 years old, Kane should/can be 200m at 26 years.

Tottenham are finding it hard to pay their staffs because of covid -19, we can negotiate something,Kane also want to leave.

Alex Ferguson would hv signed him since self,he doesnt joke with the capture of top strikers,..... Kane still got at least 7 good years in him.

The 200m reported is in pounds. Hazard was sold for 100m euro (89m pounds).
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 6:53pm On Apr 16, 2020
it's not also impossible he cheated in 1986. the man is well known to have questionable honor levels.
doping tests were not sophisticated at the time as well tongue

I'm in my hass

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chic2pimp(m): 6:55pm On Apr 16, 2020
Godx:

Whole tournament.

Most will say Maradona in 86 so I'll take a different route and say PLATINI 84.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by spillo1: 7:00pm On Apr 16, 2020
afrodoc2:


The man was finished by 27 at the latest.
The last season at Barca and the whole Milan experience was executed by the carcass of Ronaldinho.

Despite being an all time great he has to be in the running for greatest waste of talent ever.
Alcohol, Junk food, Late night partying will do that to you.
Just to add to that I think his mentality became to just have fun and lost that competitive edge to his game.

If you look at Romário, who also liked women and booze and was known to be the first to arrive the training ground because he came directly from the night clubs, he hired a personal trainer and a nutritionist in order to keep himself fit while doing exercises and also he had a very competitive personality. Ronaldinho was exactly the opposite. It's laughable that considering all that he won both individual and collectively he is still considered a wasted talent. That says alot.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by spillo1: 7:03pm On Apr 16, 2020
chic2pimp:


Most will say Maradona in 86 so I'll take a different route and say PLATINI 84.

His achievement of 9 goals in just 5 games in Euro '84 won't be beaten any time soon.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chic2pimp(m): 7:11pm On Apr 16, 2020
spillo1:


His achievement of 9 goals in just 5 games in Euro '84 won't be beaten any time soon.

Key Goals to boot. 2 Hatricks in the Group stages plus 1 each in both the Semi Finals and Finals. Legend!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:15pm On Apr 16, 2020
chic2pimp:


Most will say Maradona in 86 so I'll take a different route and say PLATINI 84.

Another good one.

The magic square of Fernández, Giresse, Tigana, and Platini but Platini was the jewel in the crown.
One of my earliest football heroes.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Swissh: 7:17pm On Apr 16, 2020
Melvyn11:

Ronaldo Champions league 2016/2017. He scored 10 goals from the quarter finals to the finals including Hatricks against Bayern and Atletico Madrid with a brace against Juventus in the final. That's why they call him Mr Champions league.


10 goals in the last 5 games of the Champions league wtf. A certain Eden has 8 his whole career. Yet Shekpites Claimed hazard had the same talent level of Messi and Ronaldo.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kimbeast: 7:21pm On Apr 16, 2020
Godx:
I have this random question to ask. Anyone interested give and answer with your reason. What in your opinion is the greatest individual performance in an entire Cup tournament( World cup, Champions league, Euros) etc.

World Cup wise:

Maradona 1986
Fat Ronaldo 1998
Zidane 2006
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kimbeast: 7:23pm On Apr 16, 2020
chic2pimp:


Most will say Maradona in 86 so I'll take a different route and say PLATINI 84.

But Maradona in 1986 stands in a league of his own. Nothing else comes close.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chic2pimp(m): 7:23pm On Apr 16, 2020
afrodoc2:


Another good one.

The magic square of Fernández, Giresse, Tigana, and Platini but Platini was the jewel in the crown.
One of my earliest football heroes.




Let me throw this out there. We all can name several Attack minded players that dominated a tournament or another. Now what If I asked you to name a Defender or a Goalkeeper that either dominated a Tournament or came closest to doing so, who would you pick? One of each preferably.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:25pm On Apr 16, 2020
afrodoc2:
200m pounds is not the going rate, especially not in a deflated COVID-19 market. Nobody is going for that much this summer.

Can you list the people who have EVER been sold for 200m pounds? Then we can determine if it is the going rate.

Mbappe at 19 was bought for 180M. That is an example
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:28pm On Apr 16, 2020
chic2pimp:


Let me throw this out there. We all can name several Attack minded players that dominated a tournament or another. Now what If I asked you to name a Defender or a Goalkeeper that either dominated a Tournament or came closest to doing so, who would you pick? One of each preferably.

Oliver Kahn 2002 world cup

Matthias Sammer Euro 96
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by spillo1: 7:28pm On Apr 16, 2020
chic2pimp:


Let me throw this out there. We all can name several Attack minded players that dominated a tournament or another. Now what If I asked you to name a Defender or a Goalkeeper that either dominated a Tournament or came closest to doing so, who would you pick? One of each preferably.
Neuer at 2014 World Cup and Buffon at 2006 World Cup.
Defenders - Cannavaro in 2006 World Cup, Baresi in 1994 World Cup and Nesta in 2003 Champions League.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 7:28pm On Apr 16, 2020
raumdeuter:


He is at peak age right now and I doubt there is any striker in the market in his age range that is as potent as Kane

Regarding injuries, Its a risk that comes with many players.

Would you not have taken Aguero in 2015 at 27

I think Harry Kane’s best days are behind him, and 200m is a big risk on a player like him.

Moreover our most pressing need at the moment is a creator, not a finisher.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:29pm On Apr 16, 2020
raumdeuter:


Mbappe at 19 was bought for 180M. That is an example

Try again.
He was bought for 116m pounds. The Harry Kane 200m report is in pounds.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:30pm On Apr 16, 2020
Kimbeast:


World Cup wise:

Maradona 1986
Fat Ronaldo De lima 1998 2002
Zidane 2006
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chic2pimp(m): 7:32pm On Apr 16, 2020
raumdeuter:


Oliver Kahn 2002 world cup

Matthias Sammer Euro 96

Great Choices!

Sammer's and Canna's were the first names that popped into my mind. Kahnnnn!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kimbeast: 7:32pm On Apr 16, 2020
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I know he was immense in 2002 but What if I told you he was better in 98 than 02?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:33pm On Apr 16, 2020
chic2pimp:


Let me throw this out there. We all can name several Attack minded players that dominated a tournament or another. Now what If I asked you to name a Defender or a Goalkeeper that either dominated a Tournament or came closest to doing so, who would you pick? One of each preferably.

Baresi 1990 World Cup
Sammer Euro 1996
Cannavaro 2006 World Cup

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chic2pimp(m): 7:35pm On Apr 16, 2020
spillo1:

Neuer at 2014 World Cup and Buffon at 2006 World Cup.
Defenders - Cannavaro in 2006 World Cup, Baresi in 1994 World Cup and Nesta in 2003 Champions League.

Can't argue against your choice of Keepers.

Baresi was missed most of the Matches in 94. Sandro Nesta good one.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:38pm On Apr 16, 2020
spillo1:

Neuer at 2014 World Cup and Buffon at 2006 World Cup.
Defenders - Cannavaro in 2006 World Cup, Baresi in 1994 World Cup and Nesta in 2003 Champions League.

- Neuer did not dominate 2014. He might be the best Keeper but did not dominate that world cup.

- Likewise Buffon in 2006, though he conceded 2 goals(zaccardo own goal vs USA and Zidane penalty in the final), and he was phenomenal, but dominate? No. That world cup belongs to Zidane, and Cannavaro.

- 1994 world cup Baresi was the best defender and among the best players overall in that tournament. But Romario and the Holy Pony tail Baggio were the dominant figures in that tournament.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chic2pimp(m): 7:38pm On Apr 16, 2020
Kimbeast:


But Maradona in 1986 stands in a league of his own. Nothing else comes close.

I can't argue with that tbh. I knew most would pick Maradona 86 hence my choice of Platini.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:40pm On Apr 16, 2020
afrodoc2:


Try again.
He was bought for 116m pounds. The Harry Kane 200m report is in pounds.

Mbappe was bought for 145M Euros upfront and 35M in bonus

Monaco, L’Equipe explains, will collect the 35 million euros if one of either of these two cases happens: that PSG decides to sell Mbappé before the end of his contract in 2022 or that the club renews his contract. The only instance in which Monaco would not be entitled to the bonus would be if the player leaves as a free agent when his contract expired in three years’ time – an incredibly unlikely scenario. As such Monaco will, with all likelihood, collect the 35-million-euro bonus fee from PSG's owners.

https://en.as.com/en/2019/06/26/football/1561567003_684869.html
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 7:40pm On Apr 16, 2020
Low budget keeper.

Guillermo Ochoa 2014 world cup (Mexico goalkeeper)

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:41pm On Apr 16, 2020
CapitalCee:


- Neuer did not dominate 2014. He might be the best Keeper but did not dominate that world cup.

- Likewise Buffon in 2006, though he conceded 2 goals(zaccardo own goal vs USA and Zidane penalty in the final), and he was phenomenal, but dominate? No. That world cup belongs to Zidane, and Cannavaro.

- 1994 world cup Baresi was the best defender and among the best players overall in that tournament. But Romario and the Holy Pony tail Baggio were the dominant figures in that tournament.

To me, US94 was Baggios tournament. He carried Italian attack solely

Romario had Bebeto who contributed a lot too. But Italian attack was just Baggio

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:43pm On Apr 16, 2020
raumdeuter:


Oliver Kahn 2002 world cup

Matthias Sammer Euro 96

Oliver Kahn in 2002 is arguably the best performance by a goal keeper in a world cup, ran closely by Dino zoff in 1982.

There is also Lev Yashin in 1960 Euros

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