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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by forgiveness: 7:30am On Apr 17, 2020
Nowenuse:
@Iamgrey5, Legendhero, forgiveness e.t.c

Nasarawa, Adamawa & Taraba states have like 30-35% Muslims each and that is why their figures are lower than that of Plateau but not as low as core-northern states.

Where are those mugus like Covidodo et Al who are claiming that Kano is ahead of Plateau state?
Can't they see that Kano state is 38% literate & Plateau is 63%?
Kano is even reaching that number because of the huge population of Christian & Middlebelt settlers. Take them away and it will go to 20% just as is obtainable in Zamfara, Sokoto e.t.c.

Kaduna state has the highest literacy rate in the NW and why is that so? SOUTHERN KADUNA PEOPLE (my people) are half of the state's population.
This is very clear for all you foools comparing my People's literacy rates to that of Hausa fulanis.

I don't know about the literacy rate in the North and I didn't debate that with you.

But you told me Hausa and Fulani are more literate because they know how to read Qur'an. ;Dllll

Don't you think based on this they are more literate than the whole Plateau? grin

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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 8:16am On Apr 17, 2020
Nowenuse:


Quote me anywhere, I have never said that Christians outnumber Muslims in Kaduna state! The highest I say is 50-50. And this is most likely the true reflection.

Kaduna city however could be Christian majority cos Christians control more territory in Kaduna city. But Zaria city is there to neutralize this.

Also, I have never argued with you that Hausa fulanis do not dominate Kaduna state politics. Of course they do! My point is that their domination of the state's politics cannot in any way stop the choices of Southern Kaduna people.
If Southern Kaduna people want to agitate for seccession, can Zaria stop them?
You talk too much! You are too sentimental and bigotry driven as well to be taken seriously. Middlebelt people are all over the southwest state doing farming unless you wanna mention your specific tribe then, we can verify. Many middlebelt well-to-do are in Lagos. The downtrodden are in many too, go to Ajegunle in Lagos for example, many stay there. That many of us have not been challenging your claims does not mean you are correct, we just feel no need to get worked up over non issue. We tolerated your vitrol enough so stop 'Yorubas don't take criticism' blackmail, pls.

My advice for you: go your plan of secession without attracting the hatred of the Yorubas, trust me, if you awake their consciousness and make them see good reasons to work against you it won't be easy, they are very tactical.

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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Cosbyrich: 8:43am On Apr 17, 2020
Nowenuse:


Thank you very much.

You will not believe that I joined this thread very calmly. The Hausa fulani guy was the only one I insulted immediately I joined this thread cos he was misrepresenting my people.

Infact my first comment on this thread was in support of Yoruba people! And look at it below!



Iamgrey5 was arguing with an Igbo man claiming that his people dominate handskills in Nigeria and I fully supported him!

Some Igbos and Hausa fulanis were also claiming that Yorubas were non-existent in the North and I immediately countered that with these comments and trust the Yorubas, they all liked these comments of mine grin




My only crime against Yorubas started because I challenged their narrative that Yorubas outnumbered non-Yorubas in SW private Universities.
A Yoruba guy brought a Covenant admission list, we counted, and Non-Yorubas outnumbered Yorubas 60-40. Since then, that was how they all started attacking and insulting me.

Can Yorubas here tell me why telling you guys the truth make you bitter and hateful ??

Legendhero, Forgiveness, Myobjective
My grudge with Legend hero is bantering words with an inconsequential dolt like you.
Somebody who is so ashamed of his tribe that he continually hides it.

Tell us your tribe if you are not a cowardly Igbo hiding under "we middlebelters".

Yorubas do not have to seek for your inconsequential praise.You are a nobody.A chronic coward...We are a people....no other....except maybe the Hausas,who were never barbarians who walked all over the place in nudity until the arrival of the white man.Yorubas have never been naked but your barbarian tribe was,reason you are ashamed to have anything to do with it.


It is a disservice for the Great Yoruba children to be bantering words with a non entity,a dolt,a stinking coward like you.

An unsettled person like you will constantly rant about the Great Yoruba because your stinking tribe collectively cannot put a torch to the smallest achievement of even a child of one of the greatest empire builders in the world.

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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Diiet: 9:01am On Apr 17, 2020
gomojam:
You talk too much! You are too sentimental and bigotry driven as well to be taken seriously. Middlebelt people are all over the southwest state doing farming unless you wanna mention your specific tribe then, we can verify. Many middlebelt well-to-do are in Lagos. The downtrodden are in many too, go to Ajegunle in Lagos for example, many stay there. That many of us have not been challenging your claims does not mean you are correct, we just feel no need to get worked up over non issue. We tolerated your vitrol enough so stop 'Yorubas don't take criticism' blackmail, pls.

My advice for you: go your plan of secession without attracting the hatred of the Yorubas, trust me, if you awaken their consciousness and make them see good reasons to work against you it won't be easy, they are very tactical.
I've also been tempted to reply the tribelss Nowenuse but I refrained myself from doing it because I discovered he's emty vesel.
The more I read his comments the more I can't stop laughing at his stupidity, he's the real defination of all talk no action. From pulling figures without source to support his claims to claiming to be what he's not. He claimed to have met with the leader of the deadliest militia group in plateau and yet another killing of his people took place yesterday, and more will take place before the end of this month unless it doesn't make it to the media, and from what I've deduced so far from his posts, he's a very frustrated person who eronneusly thinks Yoruba is the major problem of his life. Imagine inconsequential person from inconsequential tribe hating on Yoruba people that don't even know about his existence and his backward tribe whose people major in subsistence agriculture for survival. I'm very happy with COVIDODO, LENGENDHERO and other great omoluabis who have taken their time to answer him according to his folly. I know next time he sees a thread about Yoruba or SW he'll just waka pass because of the beaten he has received in this thread.

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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Redcrafton: 9:41am On Apr 17, 2020
Diiet:

I've also been tempted to reply the tribelss Nowenuse but I refrained myself from doing it because I discovered he's emty vesel.
The more I read his comments the more I can't stop laughing at his stupidity, he's the real defination of all talk no action. From pulling figures without source to support his claims to claiming to be what he's not. He claimed to have met with the leader of the deadliest militia group in plateau and yet another killing of his people took place yesterday, and more will take place before the end of this month unless it doesn't make it to the media, and from what I've deduced so far from his posts, he's a very frustrated person who eronneusly thinks Yoruba is the major problem of his life. Imagine inconsequential person from inconsequential tribe hating on Yoruba people that don't even know about his existence and his backward tribe whose people major in subsistence agriculture for survival. I'm very happy with COVIDODO, LENGENDHERO and other great omoluabis who have taken their time to answer him according to his folly. I know next time he sees a thread about Yoruba or SW he'll just waka pass because of the beaten he has received in this thread.


Seeing posts from the North, East, West and Middle belt...one can confirm that Nigeria is not a country but a space inhabited by different bed fellows.
This is supported by the comments of the major founders (See picture below)We will prosper more and respect each other more if we operate in a federation, so each region can progress at their own pace. However, we love to deceive ourselves that we are okay in one Nigeria when it is obvious to a foreigner that we don't love ourselves. How many people are patriotic enough with raising the Nigerian flag?

Of all the comments by the founders of Nigeria, Tafawa Balewa comments seems the best of the situation we found ourselves.
For those blaming Zik for rejecting secession clause....he has corrected himself with his quote.

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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by forgiveness: 10:02am On Apr 17, 2020
Nowenuse:


I started out this thread in a very calm and coordinated approach, but your stupid brothers here forced me into going sentimental & emotional by being insulting and arrogant.

People like you and Legendhero, forgiveness & Myobjective who are more reasonable and prefer to have factual & intelligent conversations should learn to immediately call out the likes Ayekotoo, Covidodo, Iamgrey5, Goke7. And not liking their comments, then you go on to call others sentimental when they give you the same dosage of silliness your brothers display.
That's being a 2 faced bastard!


Since you have called me out in an intelligent way, I will respect you and refrain from a vulgar and sentimental language. To demonstrate your integrity, also call out your Yoruba brothers and let us see who will first use insulting words on each other.


Back to the topic. You see, in life, everything has it's advantages and disadvantage. Both the Igbo and Yoruba approach to things have their advantages & disadvantages.

I fully agree with you that Igbos tend to be more emotional, sentimental and brash in their actions and decisions, While Yorubas tend to be more tolerant, diplomatic, calculative and slow to action...
Both systems have their advantages & disadvantages. Take that from me.

The system of approach of you Yorubas can be interpreted as COWARDICE, depending on the situation, even though you guys may not really be cowards. While that of Igbos can translated as BRAVERY even though it may not necessarily be.

My own people are/were more like your own people. Very tolerant and slow to action and that is why everyone took advantage of us.... Especially our Hausa fulani neighbors.

Ask any of your person who has lived with Northern christians, they will tell u that we are the most peaceful, laid-back and easy-going people in Nigeria.
I am even a bit hotheaded and not like the typical northern Christian because I spent a considerable part of my life in Delta state and I guess I have imbibed the character of you Southerners grin

This tolerant nature of ours was what helped our land develop so much. Jos, Kaduna & Abuja are our lands and if you count the 10 biggest urban areas in Nigeria, these 3 will make the list. Our people are not a very enterprising people. On our own, we couldn't have developed these 3 cities to the extent they are.
Apart from Lagos & perhaps PH, I can beat my chest to say that no other cities in Nigeria are as cosmopolitan as Jos & Kaduna.
Abuja can be excused as the FCT.
That is why in spite of all the crisis and fighting in Jos & Kaduna, most Southerners refuse to leave both cities.
We don't have armed robbers or scammers among our people. We don't have touts like Agberos, Owomidas, Omoniles et al wo harass settlers. We sell lands at giveaway prices to settlers. We are a very cheap source of labour to investors. So many positive effects of our character.

Hausa fulanis are just the ones bringing out the beast/intolerance in us. And unfortunately, they will fully succeed in that.

Anyway, you can see how well our manner of approach has helped us .... At the same time, that same character of ours is destroying us.

Hausa fulanis have taken advantage of it and are now using it to claim ownership of our homelands and trying to dominate us on our own lands.
You Southerners are not as evil as Hausa fulanis but you also take advantage of us one way or the other.
You will not believe that times without number, our LG and state govt tax collectors will go to Igbo traders for tax and the Igbo youths will give these indigenes serious beating. Out of a peaceful character, we will not attack the Igbos. We will settle it amicably. Can other tribes try such a thing in Igboland if they will not be killed?

I also see the way Igbos talkdown on you Yorubas claiming that they own Lagos and will buy it up and all manners of disrespect. That is actually very wrong and only possible due to the tolerant nature of you Yorubas.
Igbos cannot try such a thing in Sokoto or Kano.
Neither can anyone try such with them.

Here is another disadvantage of the manner of approach of you Yorubas.
Thousands of Yorubas came to Jos to work on the tin mines during the pre-colonial tin mining era...
The British gave your people lands in Jos to settle, the same way they gave Hausa fulanis & Igbos/Bendelites. The latter lost theirs during the Nigerian civil war, although they came back to reclaim part of it.
But it will shock you to know that in the 2008 Jos crisis, Hausa fulanis evicted Yorubas from the area that Yorubas have been living and dominating for more than 7 decades! And Yorubas couldn't do any thing about it! Many of them relocated back to the SW while others moved to other areas of Jos.
It is this same 'tolerant and calculative' character of yours that made u people loose that area. Why in hell should Hausa fulanis evict you in a city that they themselves are also settlers just as you are??
The only people who should be able to evict you are the natives and not fellow settlers as you are!
Hausa fulanis can never try that with the Igbos! Even in Hausaland, Igbos fight back Hausa fulanis! Igbos kill Hausa fulanis in Sabongari (Kano city)!
And that is why Hausa youths never go to that area to attack Christians no matter how crazy they are.
Christians have a stronghold and even form a majority in Kaduna central market area because of the Igbos ..... Igbos dominate the businesses there 60-40 against Hausa fulanis and these Igbos never fail to own guns to protect their businesses from Hausa fulanis.

There used to be a Yoruba dominated part of Kano (I have forgotten the name of the place), but Hausa fulanis have evicted you people from that place in the retaliation crisis in Kano to the Shagamu crisis in Ogun state.



I am an upcoming leader of my people and I have seen that Igbos are the best friends my people can have in Nigeria and I will exploit that to the fullest in the shortest possible time.
Igbos are more predictable & trustworthy. They do not change. There are sometimes in life that one needs that 'Sharp sentimental instinct' to survive and not the 'tolerant diplomatic' approach. Also vice versa.

I am not saying that you Yorubas are bad people, NO! Just that your actions and body language can be easily interpreted as COWARDICE & UNTRUSTWORTHINESS...
It may be your survival tactic in Nigeria. And you guys can continue to stick to it if you think it works for you.

Just that at the end of the day, everyone should be ready to bear the positives and negatives of their SYSTEM OF APPROACH.

I am slightly more anti-Yoruba than I am anti-Igbo here on nairaland simply cos I see that my People's interests and that of Igbos are beginning to allign or at least should allign.
It is likely to get worse in the future, cos many of my people are beginning to share my sentiments, so I have to tell you Yoruba people to brace up for more people like me coming for you cool

Anyway, where are the fulanis ( IamAtikulate or DanArrewa) who created this thread? They have ran away and allowed the rest of us to argue, fight and hate ourselves right?

Is this not their usual game of divide and rule tactic, yet we always fall for it?.
A thread on nairaland will be created for Hausa fulani against Yorubas or Igbos and that same thread will end up being a Yoruba vs Igbo thread.
That is the reason why these same Fulanis call us EDUCATED FOOOLS.

First of all, Ibadan is more cosmopolitan than both Jos and Kaduna.

Secondly, part of SW formed part of Abuja.

Thirdly, it was wrong in the first place for British to allocate lands to Yorubas in Jos. No Yoruba man will support and fight for land grabbing which tantamounts to injustice. Kudos to the Yorubas for given up the land.

Fourthly, every human being with his own philosophy. Yorubas philosophy is to achieve their goals and they have many ways to do that. Yorubas singlehandedly sponsored and used NADECO to fight against Abacha. Yorubas singlehandedly forced the whole country to present Yorubas as candidate in 1999. Yorubas were significant in ending the Civil war. Yorubas used press to kick PDP out of power. There's a saying that goes like this.... there are many ways to catch fish.

Hause Fulani knows the group to fear most. If you think Yorubas are cowards, good luck to you.

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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Covidodo: 10:06am On Apr 17, 2020
Cosbyrich:

My grudge with Legend hero is bantering words with an inconsequential dolt like you.
Somebody who is so ashamed of his tribe that he continually hides it.

Tell us your tribe if you are not a cowardly Igbo hiding under "we middlebelters".

Yorubas do not have to seek for your inconsequential praise.You are a nobody.A chronic coward...We are a people....no other....except maybe the Hausas,who were never barbarians who walked all over the place in nudity until the arrival of the white man.Yorubas have never been naked but your barbarian tribe was,reason you are ashamed to have anything to do with it.


It is a disservice for the Great Yoruba children to be bantering words with a non entity,a dolt,a stinking coward like you.

An unsettled person like you will constantly rant about the Great Yoruba because your stinking tribe collectively cannot put a torch to the smallest achievement of even a child of one of the greatest empire builders in the world.
Abi oo..

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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by forgiveness: 10:29am On Apr 17, 2020
Nowenuse:


Thank you very much.

You will not believe that I joined this thread very calmly. The Hausa fulani guy was the only one I insulted immediately I joined this thread cos he was misrepresenting my people.

Infact my first comment on this thread was in support of Yoruba people! And look at it below!



Iamgrey5 was arguing with an Igbo man claiming that his people dominate handskills in Nigeria and I fully supported him!

Some Igbos and Hausa fulanis were also claiming that Yorubas were non-existent in the North and I immediately countered that with these comments and trust the Yorubas, they all liked these comments of mine grin




My only crime against Yorubas started because I challenged their narrative that Yorubas outnumbered non-Yorubas in SW private Universities.
A Yoruba guy brought a Covenant admission list, we counted, and Non-Yorubas outnumbered Yorubas 60-40. Since then, that was how they all started attacking and insulting me.

Can Yorubas here tell me why telling you guys the truth make you bitter and hateful ??

Legendhero, Forgiveness, Myobjective

How many private universities are in the SW?

How do you know non Yorubas dominates Private universities in SW?

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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Redcrafton: 10:36am On Apr 17, 2020
forgiveness:


First of all, Ibadan is more cosmopolitan than both Jos and Kaduna.

Secondly, part of SW formed part of Abuja.

Thirdly, it was wrong in the first place for British to allocate lands to Yorubas in Jos. No Yoruba man will support and fight for land grabbing which tantamounts to injustice. Kudos to the Yorubas for given up the land.

Fourthly, every human being with his own philosophy. Yorubas philosophy is to achieve their goals and they have many ways to do that. Yorubas singlehandedly sponsored and used NADECO to fight against Abacha. Yorubas singlehandedly forced the whole country to present Yorubas as candidate in 1999. Yorubas were significant in ending the Civil war. Yorubas used press to kick PDP out of power. There's a saying that goes like this.... there are many ways to catch fish.

Hause Fulani knows the group to fear most. If you think Yorubas are cowards, good luck to you.

Despite this chest beating you cannot stand by yourself...or do you like Nigeria as its being operated? You fought Abacha, Babagida, NIgeria civil war, PDP (putting Nigeria in this current mess...) When will you fight to be on your own? Yorubas will prosper more if you were on your own...don't you think? You have not done this for two reasons....1. Fear of the north, to finish what they started from Kwara angle, and 2. Due to your gains on federal development, from the oil from the eastern region.
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 10:42am On Apr 17, 2020
forgiveness:


How many private universities are in the SW?

How do you know non Yorubas dominates Private universities in SW?
It baffles me brother each time I see his bogus figure. In other threads, I was even giving him the benefit of doubt hitherto since he seems to know so much about tribes in the North until he began throwing spurious figure all over this thread like an infallible NBS angel.

We now know the level of his credibility!

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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by forgiveness: 10:44am On Apr 17, 2020
Redcrafton:


Despite this chest beating you cannot stand by yourself...or do you like Nigeria as its being operated? You fought Abacha, Babagida, NIgeria civil war, PDP (putting Nigeria in this current mess...) When will you fight to be on your own? Yorubas will prosper more if you were on your own...don't you think? You have not done this for two reasons....1. Fear of the north, to finish what they started from Kwara angle, and 2. Due to your gains on federal development, from the oil from the eastern region.

You are right, gains from oil money from Niger Delta (Ibibibio, Uhrobo, Ijaw, Kalabari ect). grin

Don't forget, Itsekiris who are under the umbrella of Afenifere.

Yorubas will enjoy it until the last drop then decide to move on to enjoy their own..... grin

There is tangible federal development in the SW.

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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by forgiveness: 10:47am On Apr 17, 2020
gomojam:
It baffles me brother each time I see his bogus figure. In other threads, I was even giving him the benefit of doubt hitherto since he seems to know so much about tribes in the North until he began throwing spurious figure all over this thread like an infallible NBS angel.

We now know the level of his credibility!

He believes his own bogus non existing figures but he should be cured of his ignorant.

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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Redcrafton: 10:50am On Apr 17, 2020
forgiveness:


You are right, gains from oil money from Niger Delta (Ibibibio, Uhrobo, Ijaw, Kalabari ect). grin

Don't forget, Itsekiris who are under the umbrella of Afenifere.

Yorubas will enjoy it until the last drop then decide to move on to enjoy their own..... grin

There is tangible federal development in the SW.

So what are the Niger Deltans (Ibibibio, Uhrobo, Ijaw, Kalabari ect) gaining from you? Is this not the parasitism, greed and selfishness that people are talking about. It's all about yourselves. At least the people from ND are listening. But I tell you, you will be paying back all the investments you are receiving now after enjoying it...to the others...when you decide to move.

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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 11:19am On Apr 17, 2020
Redcrafton:


Despite this chest beating you cannot stand by yourself...or do you like Nigeria as its being operated? You fought Abacha, Babagida, NIgeria civil war, PDP (putting Nigeria in this current mess...) When will you fight to be on your own? Yorubas will prosper more if you were on your own...don't you think? You have not done this for two reasons....1. Fear of the north, to finish what they started from Kwara angle, and 2. Due to your gains on federal development, from the oil from the eastern region.
Tell this to Nnamdi Azikiwe, the notorious unity begger and greedy narcissist, who frustrated and dashed Awolowos effort to have the secession clause be inserted in the Constitution in 1954. He claimed igbos are the choosing tribe and its a matter of time before they dominate and lead Africa. This was why he left his enclave in Onitsha seeking to lord it over the much civilized and intelligent Yorubas who had had much experience of political intrigues, war statagem, exposure etc from the oldest Ife era through to the era of the great Oyo empire.

Tell that to Agunyi Ironsi and Ojukwu who truncated the struggle of Adaka Boro and his group , Niger Delta volunteer force, when they declared Niger Delta republic. Igbos brought them back into the shackles called Nigeria when they are dominating only to then declared Biafra when they were beaten at their game by the Hausa/fulanis.

Tell that to your politicians who don't want Biafra or why was Ike ikweremadu battered in Germany?

After you achieve concensus with them then come back we can then consider your rants.

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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Redcrafton: 11:27am On Apr 17, 2020
gomojam:
Tell this to Nnamdi Azikiwe, the notorious unity begger and greedy narcissist, who frustrated and dashed Awolowos effort to have the secession clause be inserted in the Constitution in 1954. He claimed igbos are the choosing tribe and its a matter of time before they dominate and lead Africa. This was why he left his enclave in Onitsha seeking to lord it over the much civilized and intelligent Yorubas who had had much experience of political intrigues, war statagem, exposure etc from the oldest Ife era through to the era of the great Oyo empire.

Tell that to Agunyi Ironsi and Ojukwu who truncated the struggle of Adaka Boro and his group , Niger Delta volunteer force, when they declared Niger Delta republic. Igbos brought them back into the shackles called Nigeria when they are dominating only to then declared Biafra when they were beaten at their game by the Hausa/fulanis.

Tell that to your politicians who don't want Biafra or why was Ike ikweremadu battered in Germany?

After you achieve concensus with them then come back we can then consider your rants.



Cheap talk!
What will you tell Federick Lugard that merged different people?
Did Nigeria start in 60's
Was Zik there in 1914?
Ogbeni find another lie to tell as usual.
So because you can't see Zik, you will continue cheating other regions, even the ones that are feeding you?
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by forgiveness: 11:32am On Apr 17, 2020
Redcrafton:


So what are the Niger Deltans (Ibibibio, Uhrobo, Ijaw, Kalabari ect) gaining from you? Is this not the parasitism, greed and selfishness that people are talking about. It's all about yourselves. At least the people from ND are listening. But I tell you, you will be paying back all the investments you are receiving now after enjoying it...to the others...when you decide to move.

Alot! grin

Our services sector and agricultural sector contributes largely to the GDP of Nigeria. grin

Don't forget two SW states produce oil and Itsekiris are the largest producer of oil in the Niger Delta. Besides, there is oil in commercial quantity in Ogun state and tar sands in Ondo state. grin

Don't worry about the ND because there will be nothing like that. Rather, It will be Ijaw land, Edo Republic, United States of Efik/Ibibibio, Ikwerre people's Republic, Uhrobo land etc grin

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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 11:48am On Apr 17, 2020
Redcrafton:


Cheap talk!
What will you tell Federick Lugard that merged different people?
Did Nigeria start in 60's
Was Zik there in 1914?
Ogbeni find another lie to tell as usual.
So because you can't see Zik, you will continue cheating other regions, even the ones that are feeding you?
See your logic! So because Zik was not there in 1914 he doesn't have to support measures to unmerge it in 1954 when the opportunity was shown to him.

Was Lugard a Nigerian? He only worked for the interest of his country, Britain, which Nigeria happened to be one of its feeding bottles then.

But your Zik, a direct victim of the contraption, wanted to fit in the shoes of the British colonialists only to be outsmarted by the people you lots like to tout as illiterates. Shior!

Why do you want to unmerge it now then.

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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 12:00pm On Apr 17, 2020
Seerade029:


Indigenous contributions in what way??

By the way, you said North (NE, NW, NC) against (SW)
It's really unfair..

Pick a geographical location of any north and then South west not the whole northerner (17) states
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 12:02pm On Apr 17, 2020
Blue3k:


Lol you're adding pointless qualifilers to distract from the obvious fact. Even with the handicap the SW is obviously more productive on per capita and aggregate basis. What is the north? Is one geo political region going to compete with 3. How is this a debate.

Bros I don't want to start any arguement with the west which I believe is the main agenda of this thread and I also take them to be Ally's here on nairaland but watin you talk there no correct at all
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 12:04pm On Apr 17, 2020
Odkosh:
Bros, as a westerner, we accept the challenge. All the north together against southwest. Let them come forward.
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 12:08pm On Apr 17, 2020
Seerade029:


This is what you're missing..
An average westerner (un educated ones) will learn work..

Here in west, we don't joke with learning of work.
Aluminum, Hair dresser, saloon, Phone repairer, Plumbing, Welder, Artist, computer, etc...

Dude everybody learns those things even in the north
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nowenuse: 12:15pm On Apr 17, 2020
Covidodo:

I thought anencephaly wasn't compatible with life . How tf did you make it ??
Says a schizophrenic patient.


First of all, what godforsaken tribe do you belong to ? I don't want to lump you all together . MiddleBelt isn't a tribe ffs . Y'all don't offend me . Be brave enough to state your useless tribe so I can direct my missiles appropriately .
I'm a very proud Yoruba of the Egba stock . Who tf are you ??
Hahaha, you see, we are not like you guys who are so tribal and deal on tribe daily. I am a Kwararafan descendant of Plateau stock. Isn't that enough identity for you?
Proud Yoruba? An identity given to Oyo people by Hausas grin. Tell me something else pls.


How can we ever be an inconsequential minority when we speak one language and originate from the same source with same religion and same gods ?? Are you being deliberately dumb now ??
Majority of middlebelters are descendants of the Kwararafan kingdom & Nok. So your source ish is baseless. Besides, Ijebu people (2nd largest clan in Yoruba land said they came from Sudan) grin

https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2010/06/25/ijebus-are-from-sudan-awujale-insists/amp/

And the Aworis said they are from Benin

https://dailypost.ng/2017/05/03/lagos-not-belong-yorubas-oba-akiolu/amp/.

You can only feed your shameless lies to the ignorant public!
Yoruba caricature identity was only answered by the Oyo people as at the time British came. The Egbas, Aworis, Ijebus, Igboonas, Okuns e.t.c never ever identified themselves as Yorubas in the past!

And thank God for the British who came to save your dying asses! If not, your people would have been decimated.

Fulanis had already taken over Kwara and not up till few decades ago, all your Igbomina & Ibolo Kings from Jebba down to Offa, Omu-aran & Asa were all coronated with bedsheets and given staff of office right from the Emir of Ilorin's palace.

Okun people on the other hand were real time biitches of the Nupes .... Nupes raided them whenever they felt like it and heavily depopulated and destroyed their lands. That is the reason why the British classified Okuns under the Northern protectorate, cos they were simply considered a conquered territory of the Nupe Emirates (Caliphate).
Till date, your people (Oworo under Okun) have the largest landarea in Lokoja LGA (Felele), yet there is a Hausa-Nupe Maigari of Lokoja ruling the town.
Shame nor dey catch una?

While Fulanis & Nupes were colonizing different parts of Yoruba land, Benins were colonizing Lagos and many parts of Ondo land.

You Yorubas shamelessly lost Igalas to us, same way you lost Itsekiris to the Benins.

Igalas speak a Yoroboid language. Inspite of the heavy Kwararafan corruption, the average Yoruba will understand Igala when it is spoken.
If not for my Kwararafan ancestors who came to colonize the Yoruba speaking Okpoto aboriginals of Igalaland and gave them the current Igala identity they take pride in, Igalas would have been classified by the British under the Yoruba nation.

All the lands Ebiras are staying in Kogi today was Yoruba speaking territory, cos not until the fall of Kwararafan empire, the Yoruba speaking Okpoto & Okun people were neighbors.
That is simply to tell you that the whole of present day Kogi was supposed to be Yoruba territory grin. But my Kwararafan ancestors took it from you people. Jukun Kings colonized the Yoruba speaking Okpotos, Ebira immigrants displaced the Okuns further Westwards, while Nupes were enslaving Okuns from the North grin

And today, in a once fluorishing Yoruba speaking territory (Kogi), Kwararafan descendants are now in charge cool


Itsekiris were a coastal Ijebu speaking people, but a group of fleeing Benin prince & royalties colonized all them into a kingdom subject to the Benin empire. Today, all Itsekiris pay homage to Benin and not Ife!

Can't you see that you come from a tribe who was saved by the British! Just go and thank your stars!
The foolish Yoruba leaders of Oyo empire, instead of them to go after bringing the Eastern Yoruba speaking realm like the Ijebus, Okuns & Okpotos (now Igalas) under their reign, they went after Non-Yoruba speaking Dahomey people.
See how same Dahomey sent menstruating and breastfeeding women warriors to defeat them! grin

The only fvcking ethnic group who had the liver to conquer and colonize a part of Kwararafan descendants were the Fulanis.

But you Yorubas on the other hand were gangbanged from time immemorial by Benins, Fulanis, Nupes & Kwararafans grin.
Who knows, Dahomians would have also joined the orgy if not for the intervention of Western colonialists...

Today you people beat your empty stinky chests claiming a large Yoruba nation which could only have been possible by the British.

With Kwara gone to the Fulanis, Lagos, Ondo & Itsekiris gone to the Benins and Kogi gone to the Kwararafans, tell me how only Oyo, Ogun & Osun would have been anything to reckon with as a large nation.

Read my lips, you people were saved by the Bell. Lucky bastards.


An idiiot like you is meeting me for the first time, that is why you don't know who I am!
Ask the likes of Legendhero who have known me for a long time, I am called NOWENUSE, the one-man army.
If you pass me with a friendly wave, I give you warmth and friendliness, but if you step on my tail, I give u destruction.

See, just as I told Legendhero, I do not like to play dirty, go and ask the likes of Deadlytruth who were making noise about his people in Akoko-Edo never being under Ebiras, when I gave him the embarrassment of his life, he deactivated his account and retired from Nairaland.

On another thread, I told some Yorubas that during the colonial era, Hausa language was the medium of senior education in Ilorin and that there was almost an equal number of Non-Yorubas (Hausa, fulanis, Nupes, Malians) in Ilorin than Yorubas and they started ranting nonsense as usual like u are doing here, when I brought out the colonial documents of Ilorin, they all fled in shame!

I dare you to provoke me further, I will not only post documents of how different ethnic nations ruled and were decimating Yoruba speakers, I will open an entirely new thread on that, and I will tag all the Igbo warriors on nairaland to come and feast on it.

See this idiiot! Even Ekiti people were devastated by Nupe-Fulani raids and hence they were even classified as Northern Nigerians under Nupe influence and u are here talking nonsense?


gomojam, redcrafton, diiet

Myobjective, Forgiveness & Legendhero,

I still have some respects for the 3 of you.
You guys should call Covidodo to order.

I have nothing to gain bringing up embarrassing colonial documents to ridicule Yorubas here, especially one by Fulani-Nupe conquests & raids, cos while your brother is being foolish, the Fulanis who opened this thread are happy that we are fighting ourselves.

You people should warn him let us not degenerate this thread any further and let him not provoke me to open an entirely new thread against Yorubas.

He was the first to start insulting me and my people. Ontop of that I apologized and agreed to turn a new leaf when another Yoruba person called me out, but he wants to take me down to the worst!

Thank you.

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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 12:21pm On Apr 17, 2020
wowcatty:
SW alone contributes over 60% of Nigeria's income, this is why no foreigners want to leave Yorubaland. It doesn't matter if we get money from expatriates, pluck it from trees or dig it from the ground, as long as it comes from our land, it's our money. If we didn't make our land attractive, no one would come there, after all SW is not the only region in Nigeria, wasn't the first capital and hasn't been the capital for decade yet it stands though could be better. Wealth attracts people and like the colonists called it "the richest and where the wealth is."

If we say let Nigeria break now so y'all can keep what you contribute to Nigeria all to yourself, some of you will rush to go and dunk a toiletfull.
I don't want to argue with you but let me get something into your head, Lagos is the only State that gives Southwest upper hands against others and lagos owes all this to every tribe in Nigeria not just Yoruba now remove lagos then compere the SW and NW and see if you want I can show you proves
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Covidodo: 12:23pm On Apr 17, 2020
Redcrafton:


Cheap talk!
What will you tell Federick Lugard that merged different people?
Did Nigeria start in 60's
Was Zik there in 1914?
Ogbeni find another lie to tell as usual.
So because you can't see Zik, you will continue cheating other regions, even the ones that are feeding you?
Stop being clever by half.
As much as we are all victim of one Nigeria, one way or the other , the truth must still be spoken .

The roles your people played in setting up this failed entity called Nigeria are as clear as daylight .
No one is as 'unity begging' as Azikwe in the history of Nigeria .

Need I take you through the romance between Igbos and the Hausa/Fulani at independence ??

How Yorubas were perpetual opposition from the 1st through the 3rd republic .

We know how the Igbo and Hausa/Fulani bourgeoisie tried albeit unsuccessfully to subjugate my people all through the first republic

1. When the British millitary were leaving Nigeria, they recommended that a Yoruba military officer ( Ogundepo) lead the military .
But because he was not from the ruling Igbo/Hausa Fulani , he was sidelined.

2. The Igbos were made the VCs of Ibadan and Lagos simply because of the same Igbo/Hausa-Fulani alliance .

3. We saw how Hausa-Fulani/Igbo divided the Western region.

4 . Numerous political positions were shared between the NCNC/NPC alliance .

5 . Same Hausa/Fulani/Igbo alliance ruled in the second republic . In fact , no Yoruba was in the first 4 positions of authority in Nigeria then .

It took the death of Abiola and NADECO to push a major group like the Yorubas to the fore of Nigerian politics .

The Yorubas were in the political wilderness for 40years while the Hausa-Fulani/Igbos run things in Nigeria .

It's sad they no longer teach history in our schools .

Just so you know , Ilaje land in Ondo state produces more crude oil than the whole of the South East.
Also Itsekiri land is a major source of oil in Nigeria and they have close affinity with the Yorubas . Infact , Itshekiri giants such as Alfred Rewane was a core Awoist and he even paid the supreme price to ensure the political emancipation of the Yorubas in Nigeria.

That said , Nigeria is what it is today because seemingly different people were brought together to live as a Nation and the only way out is to split Nigeria .

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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 12:28pm On Apr 17, 2020
Iamgrey5:
No you are using your village as yardstick not Lagos

There's no where in lagos with more Igbo artisans than Yoruba artisans.

Granted! the Hausas(Northerners) are used to do hard labour across Nigeria because they don't often have the skills to do semi skilled labour, but that doesn't mean they contribute to Nigerian economy than an average Yoruba artisan.

Stop using your village as a yardstick for Nigeria. It's quite remote. cheesy
Guy you are not smart so you think hausa people don't do those handskills
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Iamgrey5(m): 12:29pm On Apr 17, 2020
spendoon:

I don't want to argue with you but let me get something into your head, Lagos is the only State that gives Southwest upper hands against others and lagos owes all this to every tribe in Nigeria not just Yoruba now remove lagos then compere the SW and NW and see if you want I can show you proves
This is a shameless lie

Osun and Ekiti has a literacy rate of above 90% each according to stats provided on this thread

Oyo, Ogun and Ondo are in their 80s

GPD is also same with Oyo and Ogun states within the top ten highest GDP in Nigeria outside Lagos

Also you can check industrial states.

Even a good chunk of Yoruba billionaires are not from Lagos

So don't know where you get your information from.

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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Ayekotoo(m): 12:30pm On Apr 17, 2020
Nowenuse:


Hypocrite! Didn't you see your Yoruba brother Ayekotoo when he did the same thing and posted a list of only 4 Yoruba names as well?

I was just giving him a taste of his own medicine smiley

The page I quoted was a full page with a source attached to it unlike your 4-name page that was stinks of deceit.

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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Iamgrey5(m): 12:32pm On Apr 17, 2020
spendoon:

Guy you are not smart so you think hausa people don't do those handskills
So do Yorubas or Hausa don't trade?

Nothwithstanding, Yorubas cannot deny that Igbos are the most dominant in the areas of trade in Nigeria.

In Nigeria, even outside Yoruba land, there are thousands of Yoruba artisans doing one work or the other..

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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 12:32pm On Apr 17, 2020
Iamgrey5:
This is a shameless lie

Osun and Ekiti has a literacy rate of above 90% each according to stats provided on this thread

Oyo, Ogun and Ondo are in their 80s

GPD is also same with Oyo and Ogun states within the top ten highest GDP in Nigeria outside Lagos

Also you can check industrial states.

Even a good chunk of Yoruba billionaires are not from Lagos

So don't know where you get your information from.
Just look at the nonsense you just typed ok I work with proves and facts

Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 12:34pm On Apr 17, 2020
Iamgrey5:
This is a shameless lie

Osun and Ekiti has a literacy rate of above 90% each according to stats provided on this thread

Oyo, Ogun and Ondo are in their 80s

GPD is also same with Oyo and Ogun states within the top ten highest GDP in Nigeria outside Lagos

Also you can check industrial states.

Even a good chunk of Yoruba billionaires are not from Lagos

So don't know where you get your information from.
Now co.pere without Lagos

Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 12:36pm On Apr 17, 2020
Iamgrey5:
So do Yorubas or Hausa don't trade?

Nothwithstanding, Yorubas cannot deny that Igbos are the most dominant in the areas of trade in Nigeria.

In Nigeria, even outside Yoruba land, there are thousands of Yoruba artisans doing one work or the other..
See you are judging from what you see in the west but here in the north almost all those skills are dominated by northerners same in the east it's dominated by igbos
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Iamgrey5(m): 12:38pm On Apr 17, 2020
spendoon:

Now co.pere without Lagos
Without Lagos that majority of the Economy of Yoruba people are

Yorubas still have a better GPD than South East, North and North central and North west with the only exception being the South South

I think you are the one who needs glasses.

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