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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by forgiveness: 7:30am On Apr 17, 2020 |
Nowenuse: I don't know about the literacy rate in the North and I didn't debate that with you. But you told me Hausa and Fulani are more literate because they know how to read Qur'an. ;Dllll Don't you think based on this they are more literate than the whole Plateau? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 8:16am On Apr 17, 2020 |
Nowenuse:You talk too much! You are too sentimental and bigotry driven as well to be taken seriously. Middlebelt people are all over the southwest state doing farming unless you wanna mention your specific tribe then, we can verify. Many middlebelt well-to-do are in Lagos. The downtrodden are in many too, go to Ajegunle in Lagos for example, many stay there. That many of us have not been challenging your claims does not mean you are correct, we just feel no need to get worked up over non issue. We tolerated your vitrol enough so stop 'Yorubas don't take criticism' blackmail, pls. My advice for you: go your plan of secession without attracting the hatred of the Yorubas, trust me, if you awake their consciousness and make them see good reasons to work against you it won't be easy, they are very tactical. 3 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Cosbyrich: 8:43am On Apr 17, 2020 |
Nowenuse:My grudge with Legend hero is bantering words with an inconsequential dolt like you. Somebody who is so ashamed of his tribe that he continually hides it. Tell us your tribe if you are not a cowardly Igbo hiding under "we middlebelters". Yorubas do not have to seek for your inconsequential praise.You are a nobody.A chronic coward...We are a people....no other....except maybe the Hausas,who were never barbarians who walked all over the place in nudity until the arrival of the white man.Yorubas have never been naked but your barbarian tribe was,reason you are ashamed to have anything to do with it. It is a disservice for the Great Yoruba children to be bantering words with a non entity,a dolt,a stinking coward like you. An unsettled person like you will constantly rant about the Great Yoruba because your stinking tribe collectively cannot put a torch to the smallest achievement of even a child of one of the greatest empire builders in the world. 8 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Diiet: 9:01am On Apr 17, 2020 |
gomojam:I've also been tempted to reply the tribelss Nowenuse but I refrained myself from doing it because I discovered he's emty vesel. The more I read his comments the more I can't stop laughing at his stupidity, he's the real defination of all talk no action. From pulling figures without source to support his claims to claiming to be what he's not. He claimed to have met with the leader of the deadliest militia group in plateau and yet another killing of his people took place yesterday, and more will take place before the end of this month unless it doesn't make it to the media, and from what I've deduced so far from his posts, he's a very frustrated person who eronneusly thinks Yoruba is the major problem of his life. Imagine inconsequential person from inconsequential tribe hating on Yoruba people that don't even know about his existence and his backward tribe whose people major in subsistence agriculture for survival. I'm very happy with COVIDODO, LENGENDHERO and other great omoluabis who have taken their time to answer him according to his folly. I know next time he sees a thread about Yoruba or SW he'll just waka pass because of the beaten he has received in this thread. 6 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Redcrafton: 9:41am On Apr 17, 2020 |
Diiet: Seeing posts from the North, East, West and Middle belt...one can confirm that Nigeria is not a country but a space inhabited by different bed fellows. This is supported by the comments of the major founders (See picture below)We will prosper more and respect each other more if we operate in a federation, so each region can progress at their own pace. However, we love to deceive ourselves that we are okay in one Nigeria when it is obvious to a foreigner that we don't love ourselves. How many people are patriotic enough with raising the Nigerian flag? Of all the comments by the founders of Nigeria, Tafawa Balewa comments seems the best of the situation we found ourselves. For those blaming Zik for rejecting secession clause....he has corrected himself with his quote. 1 Like
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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by forgiveness: 10:02am On Apr 17, 2020 |
Nowenuse: First of all, Ibadan is more cosmopolitan than both Jos and Kaduna. Secondly, part of SW formed part of Abuja. Thirdly, it was wrong in the first place for British to allocate lands to Yorubas in Jos. No Yoruba man will support and fight for land grabbing which tantamounts to injustice. Kudos to the Yorubas for given up the land. Fourthly, every human being with his own philosophy. Yorubas philosophy is to achieve their goals and they have many ways to do that. Yorubas singlehandedly sponsored and used NADECO to fight against Abacha. Yorubas singlehandedly forced the whole country to present Yorubas as candidate in 1999. Yorubas were significant in ending the Civil war. Yorubas used press to kick PDP out of power. There's a saying that goes like this.... there are many ways to catch fish. Hause Fulani knows the group to fear most. If you think Yorubas are cowards, good luck to you. 8 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Covidodo: 10:06am On Apr 17, 2020 |
Cosbyrich:Abi oo.. 3 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by forgiveness: 10:29am On Apr 17, 2020 |
Nowenuse: How many private universities are in the SW? How do you know non Yorubas dominates Private universities in SW? 4 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Redcrafton: 10:36am On Apr 17, 2020 |
forgiveness: Despite this chest beating you cannot stand by yourself...or do you like Nigeria as its being operated? You fought Abacha, Babagida, NIgeria civil war, PDP (putting Nigeria in this current mess...) When will you fight to be on your own? Yorubas will prosper more if you were on your own...don't you think? You have not done this for two reasons....1. Fear of the north, to finish what they started from Kwara angle, and 2. Due to your gains on federal development, from the oil from the eastern region. |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 10:42am On Apr 17, 2020 |
forgiveness:It baffles me brother each time I see his bogus figure. In other threads, I was even giving him the benefit of doubt hitherto since he seems to know so much about tribes in the North until he began throwing spurious figure all over this thread like an infallible NBS angel. We now know the level of his credibility! 1 Like |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by forgiveness: 10:44am On Apr 17, 2020 |
Redcrafton: You are right, gains from oil money from Niger Delta (Ibibibio, Uhrobo, Ijaw, Kalabari ect). Don't forget, Itsekiris who are under the umbrella of Afenifere. Yorubas will enjoy it until the last drop then decide to move on to enjoy their own..... There is tangible federal development in the SW. 3 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by forgiveness: 10:47am On Apr 17, 2020 |
gomojam: He believes his own bogus non existing figures but he should be cured of his ignorant. 3 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Redcrafton: 10:50am On Apr 17, 2020 |
forgiveness: So what are the Niger Deltans (Ibibibio, Uhrobo, Ijaw, Kalabari ect) gaining from you? Is this not the parasitism, greed and selfishness that people are talking about. It's all about yourselves. At least the people from ND are listening. But I tell you, you will be paying back all the investments you are receiving now after enjoying it...to the others...when you decide to move. 1 Like |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 11:19am On Apr 17, 2020 |
Redcrafton:Tell this to Nnamdi Azikiwe, the notorious unity begger and greedy narcissist, who frustrated and dashed Awolowos effort to have the secession clause be inserted in the Constitution in 1954. He claimed igbos are the choosing tribe and its a matter of time before they dominate and lead Africa. This was why he left his enclave in Onitsha seeking to lord it over the much civilized and intelligent Yorubas who had had much experience of political intrigues, war statagem, exposure etc from the oldest Ife era through to the era of the great Oyo empire. Tell that to Agunyi Ironsi and Ojukwu who truncated the struggle of Adaka Boro and his group , Niger Delta volunteer force, when they declared Niger Delta republic. Igbos brought them back into the shackles called Nigeria when they are dominating only to then declared Biafra when they were beaten at their game by the Hausa/fulanis. Tell that to your politicians who don't want Biafra or why was Ike ikweremadu battered in Germany? After you achieve concensus with them then come back we can then consider your rants. 4 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Redcrafton: 11:27am On Apr 17, 2020 |
gomojam: Cheap talk! What will you tell Federick Lugard that merged different people? Did Nigeria start in 60's Was Zik there in 1914? Ogbeni find another lie to tell as usual. So because you can't see Zik, you will continue cheating other regions, even the ones that are feeding you? |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by forgiveness: 11:32am On Apr 17, 2020 |
Redcrafton: Alot! Our services sector and agricultural sector contributes largely to the GDP of Nigeria. Don't forget two SW states produce oil and Itsekiris are the largest producer of oil in the Niger Delta. Besides, there is oil in commercial quantity in Ogun state and tar sands in Ondo state. Don't worry about the ND because there will be nothing like that. Rather, It will be Ijaw land, Edo Republic, United States of Efik/Ibibibio, Ikwerre people's Republic, Uhrobo land etc 4 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 11:48am On Apr 17, 2020 |
Redcrafton:See your logic! So because Zik was not there in 1914 he doesn't have to support measures to unmerge it in 1954 when the opportunity was shown to him. Was Lugard a Nigerian? He only worked for the interest of his country, Britain, which Nigeria happened to be one of its feeding bottles then. But your Zik, a direct victim of the contraption, wanted to fit in the shoes of the British colonialists only to be outsmarted by the people you lots like to tout as illiterates. Shior! Why do you want to unmerge it now then. 2 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 12:00pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 12:02pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
Blue3k:Bros I don't want to start any arguement with the west which I believe is the main agenda of this thread and I also take them to be Ally's here on nairaland but watin you talk there no correct at all |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 12:04pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 12:08pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
Seerade029:Dude everybody learns those things even in the north |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nowenuse: 12:15pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
Covidodo:Says a schizophrenic patient. Hahaha, you see, we are not like you guys who are so tribal and deal on tribe daily. I am a Kwararafan descendant of Plateau stock. Isn't that enough identity for you? Proud Yoruba? An identity given to Oyo people by Hausas . Tell me something else pls. Majority of middlebelters are descendants of the Kwararafan kingdom & Nok. So your source ish is baseless. Besides, Ijebu people (2nd largest clan in Yoruba land said they came from Sudan) https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2010/06/25/ijebus-are-from-sudan-awujale-insists/amp/ And the Aworis said they are from Benin https://dailypost.ng/2017/05/03/lagos-not-belong-yorubas-oba-akiolu/amp/. You can only feed your shameless lies to the ignorant public! Yoruba caricature identity was only answered by the Oyo people as at the time British came. The Egbas, Aworis, Ijebus, Igboonas, Okuns e.t.c never ever identified themselves as Yorubas in the past! And thank God for the British who came to save your dying asses! If not, your people would have been decimated. Fulanis had already taken over Kwara and not up till few decades ago, all your Igbomina & Ibolo Kings from Jebba down to Offa, Omu-aran & Asa were all coronated with bedsheets and given staff of office right from the Emir of Ilorin's palace. Okun people on the other hand were real time biitches of the Nupes .... Nupes raided them whenever they felt like it and heavily depopulated and destroyed their lands. That is the reason why the British classified Okuns under the Northern protectorate, cos they were simply considered a conquered territory of the Nupe Emirates (Caliphate). Till date, your people (Oworo under Okun) have the largest landarea in Lokoja LGA (Felele), yet there is a Hausa-Nupe Maigari of Lokoja ruling the town. Shame nor dey catch una? While Fulanis & Nupes were colonizing different parts of Yoruba land, Benins were colonizing Lagos and many parts of Ondo land. You Yorubas shamelessly lost Igalas to us, same way you lost Itsekiris to the Benins. Igalas speak a Yoroboid language. Inspite of the heavy Kwararafan corruption, the average Yoruba will understand Igala when it is spoken. If not for my Kwararafan ancestors who came to colonize the Yoruba speaking Okpoto aboriginals of Igalaland and gave them the current Igala identity they take pride in, Igalas would have been classified by the British under the Yoruba nation. All the lands Ebiras are staying in Kogi today was Yoruba speaking territory, cos not until the fall of Kwararafan empire, the Yoruba speaking Okpoto & Okun people were neighbors. That is simply to tell you that the whole of present day Kogi was supposed to be Yoruba territory . But my Kwararafan ancestors took it from you people. Jukun Kings colonized the Yoruba speaking Okpotos, Ebira immigrants displaced the Okuns further Westwards, while Nupes were enslaving Okuns from the North And today, in a once fluorishing Yoruba speaking territory (Kogi), Kwararafan descendants are now in charge Itsekiris were a coastal Ijebu speaking people, but a group of fleeing Benin prince & royalties colonized all them into a kingdom subject to the Benin empire. Today, all Itsekiris pay homage to Benin and not Ife! Can't you see that you come from a tribe who was saved by the British! Just go and thank your stars! The foolish Yoruba leaders of Oyo empire, instead of them to go after bringing the Eastern Yoruba speaking realm like the Ijebus, Okuns & Okpotos (now Igalas) under their reign, they went after Non-Yoruba speaking Dahomey people. See how same Dahomey sent menstruating and breastfeeding women warriors to defeat them! The only fvcking ethnic group who had the liver to conquer and colonize a part of Kwararafan descendants were the Fulanis. But you Yorubas on the other hand were gangbanged from time immemorial by Benins, Fulanis, Nupes & Kwararafans . Who knows, Dahomians would have also joined the orgy if not for the intervention of Western colonialists... Today you people beat your empty stinky chests claiming a large Yoruba nation which could only have been possible by the British. With Kwara gone to the Fulanis, Lagos, Ondo & Itsekiris gone to the Benins and Kogi gone to the Kwararafans, tell me how only Oyo, Ogun & Osun would have been anything to reckon with as a large nation. Read my lips, you people were saved by the Bell. Lucky bastards. An idiiot like you is meeting me for the first time, that is why you don't know who I am! Ask the likes of Legendhero who have known me for a long time, I am called NOWENUSE, the one-man army. If you pass me with a friendly wave, I give you warmth and friendliness, but if you step on my tail, I give u destruction. See, just as I told Legendhero, I do not like to play dirty, go and ask the likes of Deadlytruth who were making noise about his people in Akoko-Edo never being under Ebiras, when I gave him the embarrassment of his life, he deactivated his account and retired from Nairaland. On another thread, I told some Yorubas that during the colonial era, Hausa language was the medium of senior education in Ilorin and that there was almost an equal number of Non-Yorubas (Hausa, fulanis, Nupes, Malians) in Ilorin than Yorubas and they started ranting nonsense as usual like u are doing here, when I brought out the colonial documents of Ilorin, they all fled in shame! I dare you to provoke me further, I will not only post documents of how different ethnic nations ruled and were decimating Yoruba speakers, I will open an entirely new thread on that, and I will tag all the Igbo warriors on nairaland to come and feast on it. See this idiiot! Even Ekiti people were devastated by Nupe-Fulani raids and hence they were even classified as Northern Nigerians under Nupe influence and u are here talking nonsense? gomojam, redcrafton, diiet Myobjective, Forgiveness & Legendhero, I still have some respects for the 3 of you. You guys should call Covidodo to order. I have nothing to gain bringing up embarrassing colonial documents to ridicule Yorubas here, especially one by Fulani-Nupe conquests & raids, cos while your brother is being foolish, the Fulanis who opened this thread are happy that we are fighting ourselves. You people should warn him let us not degenerate this thread any further and let him not provoke me to open an entirely new thread against Yorubas. He was the first to start insulting me and my people. Ontop of that I apologized and agreed to turn a new leaf when another Yoruba person called me out, but he wants to take me down to the worst! Thank you. 1 Like |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 12:21pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
wowcatty:I don't want to argue with you but let me get something into your head, Lagos is the only State that gives Southwest upper hands against others and lagos owes all this to every tribe in Nigeria not just Yoruba now remove lagos then compere the SW and NW and see if you want I can show you proves |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Covidodo: 12:23pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
Redcrafton:Stop being clever by half. As much as we are all victim of one Nigeria, one way or the other , the truth must still be spoken . The roles your people played in setting up this failed entity called Nigeria are as clear as daylight . No one is as 'unity begging' as Azikwe in the history of Nigeria . Need I take you through the romance between Igbos and the Hausa/Fulani at independence ?? How Yorubas were perpetual opposition from the 1st through the 3rd republic . We know how the Igbo and Hausa/Fulani bourgeoisie tried albeit unsuccessfully to subjugate my people all through the first republic 1. When the British millitary were leaving Nigeria, they recommended that a Yoruba military officer ( Ogundepo) lead the military . But because he was not from the ruling Igbo/Hausa Fulani , he was sidelined. 2. The Igbos were made the VCs of Ibadan and Lagos simply because of the same Igbo/Hausa-Fulani alliance . 3. We saw how Hausa-Fulani/Igbo divided the Western region. 4 . Numerous political positions were shared between the NCNC/NPC alliance . 5 . Same Hausa/Fulani/Igbo alliance ruled in the second republic . In fact , no Yoruba was in the first 4 positions of authority in Nigeria then . It took the death of Abiola and NADECO to push a major group like the Yorubas to the fore of Nigerian politics . The Yorubas were in the political wilderness for 40years while the Hausa-Fulani/Igbos run things in Nigeria . It's sad they no longer teach history in our schools . Just so you know , Ilaje land in Ondo state produces more crude oil than the whole of the South East. Also Itsekiri land is a major source of oil in Nigeria and they have close affinity with the Yorubas . Infact , Itshekiri giants such as Alfred Rewane was a core Awoist and he even paid the supreme price to ensure the political emancipation of the Yorubas in Nigeria. That said , Nigeria is what it is today because seemingly different people were brought together to live as a Nation and the only way out is to split Nigeria . 1 Like |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 12:28pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
Iamgrey5:Guy you are not smart so you think hausa people don't do those handskills |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Iamgrey5(m): 12:29pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
spendoon:This is a shameless lie Osun and Ekiti has a literacy rate of above 90% each according to stats provided on this thread Oyo, Ogun and Ondo are in their 80s GPD is also same with Oyo and Ogun states within the top ten highest GDP in Nigeria outside Lagos Also you can check industrial states. Even a good chunk of Yoruba billionaires are not from Lagos So don't know where you get your information from. 2 Likes |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Ayekotoo(m): 12:30pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
Nowenuse: The page I quoted was a full page with a source attached to it unlike your 4-name page that was stinks of deceit. 1 Like |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Iamgrey5(m): 12:32pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
spendoon:So do Yorubas or Hausa don't trade? Nothwithstanding, Yorubas cannot deny that Igbos are the most dominant in the areas of trade in Nigeria. In Nigeria, even outside Yoruba land, there are thousands of Yoruba artisans doing one work or the other.. 1 Like |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 12:32pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
Iamgrey5:Just look at the nonsense you just typed ok I work with proves and facts
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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 12:34pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
Iamgrey5:Now co.pere without Lagos
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Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Nobody: 12:36pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
Iamgrey5:See you are judging from what you see in the west but here in the north almost all those skills are dominated by northerners same in the east it's dominated by igbos |
Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Iamgrey5(m): 12:38pm On Apr 17, 2020 |
spendoon:Without Lagos that majority of the Economy of Yoruba people are Yorubas still have a better GPD than South East, North and North central and North west with the only exception being the South South I think you are the one who needs glasses. |
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