Redcrafton:


I know you won't mention ACF..as you fear the north so much.

I swaaer, you are absolutely right. I fear him because these figures are scary.
But I fear you more

I do ooo

Iamgrey5:
Bro you are impossible thb

Jos is not his birth place, he was born in Eritrea. He is just an investor in Jos, just like Dangote, P&G, Larfarge, Nestlé etc are investors in Yoruba land.

All these companies have operation centres all over in Yoruba land and their market valuation in the Nigerian stock exchange is in the trillions.

P&G operates from ibadan and Ogun

Larfarge from Ogun state and Lagos

Nestle from Ogun and Lagos

Dangote sugar, flour from Ogun.

So what exactly are you braging about?

Attai was not the one who founded NASCO, it was his father who founded it in 1963 in Jos.

If I as a Nigerian move to Germany and found a company in Germany with the headquarters in Germany and I naturalized as a German citizen, will that company be called a Nigerian company or a German company?

P & G, Nestlé, Guiness e.t.c are European companies founded over a hundred years by Europeans in Europe. They only came to Nigeria to open branches of these companies and that is why these companies do not have their headquarters in Nigeria.

Abeg I don tire to explain.

Nowenuse:


https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2012/11/19/the-ogbomoso-people-in-jos/amp/

https://www.independent.ng/jos-gets-new-yoruba-leader/

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2018/10/08/yoruba-community-laments-loss-of-members-property-to-jos-violence/amp/

Read these links and cover your head in shame!

People like you have never left Iwo since you were born.


Why will popular Yorubas live in Jos when it is not the economic, financial or entertainment capital of Nigeria?
However, many popular Yorubas call my homeland home cos they grew up there, hence they are products of my homeland and I can give you the list.



https://dailypost-ng.cdn.ampproject.org/ii/w470/s/dailypost.ng/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/unnamed-1-1.jpg

Can u see this picture? An array of Yoruba traditional leaders in Jos

Can u find such array of Plateau or Southern Kaduna leaders in Lagos? Let your abandoned war towns.



Yes, you see Igalas, Ebiras, Idomas, Tivs & Igedes? (Kogi & Benue people)?
They are a bone in our throat that we ourselves cannot swallow or vomit out.
We from Plateau, Southern Kaduna, Nasarawa, Taraba e.t.c are not the same with them and we do not have the same mentality or cultures with them.
They are more like Southerners and much of their histories are tied to southern Nigeria, and to be frank, they were supposed to be classified as Southerners if not for the fraudulent nature of the British.

Tivs are Bantu immigrants from Congo who came to settle on Kwararafan lands and that is why they and the Jukuns, Idomas and other Kwararafan neighbors fight till date.
Igalas are Yoruba speaking people who we (Kwararafa colonized).

If not that these Benue & Kogi tribes are the ones in between we and the Southerners, I don't think we would have wanted anything to do with them.
Ebiras & Nupes for example have been infected with the virus of Islamic extremism, so either you Yorubas or Hausa fulanis take them. God forbid for the rest of us to have anything to do with them. Ebiras even disgust me more than Yorubas disgust me.
And thank God that Ebiras & Nupes are the highest middlebelt settlers in Yorubaland. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

These Benue/Kogi people even inflitrate our lands with immigration same way you Southerners do. Igalas & Idomas don't stay in their homeland! Majority of them are in Jos, Kaduna & Abuja. Thank God Ebiras & Nupes identity more with Hausa fulanis in the north than my people due to their Islamic bond.

Abuja is even something else. Igalas/Idomas drag numbers or even outnumber we northern christians in many parts of Abuja.

Abeg, take note! I personally do not consider Benue & Kogi people to be my people! However, We are friends, neighbors and distant cousins who share one region same way you Yorubas & Edos share one region together.
Thank you.

So, I will prefer if you are dealing with me, talk about Plateau, Southern Kaduna, Nasarawa, Adamawa e.t.c Christian tribes.
These are the people I represent and not Igala, Idomas, Tivs or Godforbid Ebiras.

So your mention of MI & Iceprince are the ones I can defend. And those handful are there cos the entertainment industry of Nigeria is based in Lagos (developed by the FG). How many of such people will live in Ibadan, Iwo or Ilesha?


I prefer to be a free man in war than to be a happy slave. Plateau can have crisis, but as long as there is no Emir in Jos, I am okay, unlike Ilorin.


Can you kindly mention one ethnic group in my region that Fulanis have successfully evicted from their homeland? I am waiting. Mention it or forever remain an idiiot.


There are currently no IDP camps in Plateau state FYI, even fleeing people from Borno/Yobe IDPs have been closed.
They were all closed in January and the people reintegrated.
My group wanted to make donations to any IDP camp as at February and we could find none all over Plateau, Southern Kaduna or Adamawa.



APC won Plateau state in the governorship, but did they win in the Presidency? Hell no!
APC wins in Kaduna cos of the Hausa fulanis but they never win in Southern Kaduna, do they?

The last governor (Jang) who controlled the PDP wanted to promote his ethnic groups superiority over other Plateau tribes, and the rest of us united to destroy that nonsense, cos tribal superiority is not part of our culture! And Nigeria being a 2-party system, APC was the only other good option we had.

However, to tell u that unlike u Yorubas, we know our left from our right, Buhari never wins Plateau in the Presidential elections.


Then what are Yorubas still doing in our land crowning new Oba Yoruba of Jos & Kaduna every time?

https://www.independent.ng/jos-gets-new-yoruba-leader/

If not for Igbo controlled Sabongari, Yorubas would have been eradicated and non-existent as a community in Kano state.

Pack all the Yorubas out of the north and we will take u seriously.


I have bad news for you. Ilorin would also be involved when the shit hits the Fan.
By the time my people in unity with the Igbos will finish Hausa fulanis from my area, they will channel all the anger into Ilorin, then we will see who will laugh harder. Just pray that Nupes, Baribas & Ebiras will not join Hausa fulanis, cos they are your only lifeline. If not, u will loose Ilorin in broad daylight and nothing will happen.

After all, a fulani leader (Junaid Mohammed) made a public statement that Ilorin & even Offa will go with them if Nigeria divides

https://www.nairaland.com/2804069/north-keep-ilorin-offa-nigeria


We are inconsequential yet we own the nation's capital city . and there are more Yorubas living in our lands than vice versa.



70% of all the food in Nigeria comes from the Middlebelt and Northern minorities.
Because of us, even paupers in Yorubaland can afford to eat Salad. Try importing Cabbages, Carrots, Lettuces from Obodo Oyibo and see if paupers like you would ever eat salad till you die.
Go to ShopRite and see the the exorbitant prices of the imported Strawberry, Irish potatoes and Salad veggies. How many ngbaati ngbaati folks can afford that?

We are the host to the nation's capital.
We lost more people than any other region in Nigeria in the civil war, all to keep Nigeria one.
Same Nigeria u clowns are claiming to be influential in.


If my people had not fought the civil war to keep Nigeria one, would any idiot have been talking about a capital in Abuja?

Ibrahim Babangida & Mohammed Murtala are not even Hausa fulanis.
Babangida claims Gbagyiland and not Hausaland. His mother and grandmothers are Gbagyi women, though we are not sure of his paternity.
Murtala on the other hand, some say he has a Berom (Plateau) father & Etsako mother or vice versa. He was never tied to Hausa fulani origin, only that he lived in Kano.

So, can u tell me how Abuja came to be due to Hausa fulani magnanimity? Mugu.


Our destiny is tied to the Hausa fulani, yet we have evicted them from dozens of our towns.
Are u not worse than a clown?
And what the hell do u mean we dress like Hausa fulanis? Is it because of Babanriga? One, not all my people use Babanriga, but Yorubas use it too.
Babanriga is not a native Hausa fulani dress. They borrowed it from the Saharan tribes.


Your headache.


Fulani herdsmen are everywhere in Nigeria, while BH are based (operate) from Kanuri parts of Borno. How is that my region?


See this foool. Do u have the numbers of people who are butchered all over the forests of Yorubaland day in day out? The ones used for Yahoo plus e.t.c?


Take away Lagos from Yorubaland and it will be comparable to Niger republic.


Stories that touch.
How many of our women do you see traveling hundreds of miles in order to hawk Agbo-jedijedi by day and #200 'money for hand back for ground' at night?


Yes your folks are making us proud, I won't deny, but is that not the same way you guys are embarrassing us all over the world?

How many of you are awaiting beheading in your holy Islamic city of Mecca for drug smuggling?
Or should we talk about the fact that one Yoruba scammer is caught and incarcerated abroad Everytime we click on the news?

Or is it the Yoruba muslim terrorist Adebolajo who started killing people on the streets of London we should talk about?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-26357007

For every good representation you give Nigeria, you give 10 bad representations.... So, can u kindly tell me what use your good rep is, when it comes with a geometrically higher opposite?

My own people could bring only 1 good representative outside Nigeria and rest assured no evil rep is coming out to counter it.



Law backed Amotekun is for only cowards who cannot face and dear the military. My own people will not need that shiit in the next few years when we will rain hell on Hausa fulanis in our midst.
We did not need Amotekun to eradicate Hausa fulanis & Muslims from dozens of towns & LGAs from Plateau, FCT, Southern Kaduna, Taraba, Adamawa & Bauchi south.

So, can u tell me why we should ever need them?
People who have the teeth to bite do not need to bark endlessly first.



Can you tell me who pity and sympathy has ever helped in this world?
Right from 1987 when there was no even social media or anything, my people have been engaging Hausa fulanis in conflicts and winning.
Was it your pity that helped Kataf people eradicate Hausa fulanis from Zangon Kataf in 1992?

Pity and Sympathy only makes people weaker! Action is what is needed.
I was told how an Igbo man in Jos bought and supplied guns for my people in the 2010 Jos crisis.
Those are the only things that can help us!
Igbos have never lost any land they dominate in the North to Hausa fulani attackers, and because of Igbos, my people can also live in those places confidently. That is what we are talking about.

See someone like Nnamdi Kanu, if my people go and meet him and pledge support/partnership to his cause, he will be ready to give us a large amount of cash to buy weapons and defend our people!
Apart from someone like Oyedepo, how many Yorubas can do such?
And besides, Oyedepo is also a product of our land since he spent a large chunk of his upbringing in Kaduna & Jos.

Fani Kayode is just out for the media and benefits he gets. However we still appreciate his likes and that is why people like them will always have a special place in our hearts and not filthy Yoruba muslim roaches like you who claim sympathy for my people on Ibadan expressway media today and tomorrow you paint a terrorist like Buhari as a messiah in that same media of yours.

If na Igbo man dey talk about sympathy now, cold go dey catch me small small, not a powerless cvnt like you who cannot save or have enough sympathy for Ilorin, let alone others.

Why did u people not include Kwara in your Amotekun? Sebi it is Yoruba dominated na. Loooooooosers!

Haba
You finish am with his sophistication.. na so dem go Dey for osogbo Dey type gibberish. Person wey never leave his vicinity..

Educate him more..

Iamgrey5:


Bro stop giving me silly mentions while making silly claims that cannot be substantiated with any evidence.

We have dealt with this your notion of Platuea economy alleged vibrancy several pages back.

Jos does not have any industrial complex, it was a mining town until the mining industry in Nigeria collapsed after crude oil was discovered in the south/south region of Nigeria.

And I have seen how you are desperately trying to look for "proofs" online to support your fictional claims on the internet to the extent that you are using the opinion of D Banj's wife as hard facts to support your arguments in the field of economics.

I thought our argument was in the field of economics, so economical data released by reputable institutions should be provided to support your notion that Plateau state is more industrialized and developed than Oyo, Ogun state like you claimed not the opinion of the wife of musician.

What you are doing now is equivalent to an after thought to safe face after you have made ridiculous claims that you cannot substantiate.

Stop being slow! I was never the one who started the comparisons of the economies of Jos & Ibadan.
I only said that Jos looks better than Ibadan finish.

It was Legendhero that started talking about economies, educational institutions, malls e.t.c.

He was gallivanting and talking down Jos until I brought NASCO out for him as a knockout he never expected!
Nasco with it's headquarters in Jos is worth more than 10 of some of the micro industries in Ibadan put together.

I also listed 7 tin mining companies for him! And many other industries.
So throw away that your belief that the tin mining industry is dead in Jos. It's there, it's not just as lucrative as before when it was among the top 5 income generators of pre-colonial Nigeria. Besides, the FG are the ones who collect taxes from the tin mining industries and not the state govts.

I also told him that Jos had the biggest ultramodern market market in West Africa if not for the crisis, he swore on me that it was a lie. I showed him proofs and he kept quiet.

Ibadan is bigger than Jos in size and is more economically influential than Jos no doubt, no argument, just that Jos will also rubbish it in other areas and aspects.

For starters, Jos has 2 universitiy teaching hospitals, but Ibadan has only 1.

Jos still attracts more tourists than Ibadan.
People come to Jos to see the only Intra-city wildlife park in West Africa.

And point of correction, me talking about D'banj's wife from Jos was just me proving to Forgiveness that Ibadan can never be more cosmopolitan than Jos. He made that claim and I countered him with that fact.

Nowenuse:


Attai was not the one who founded NASCO, it was his father who founded it in 1963 in Jos.

If I as a Nigerian move to Germany and found a company in Germany with the headquarters in Germany and I naturalized as a German citizen, will that company be called a Nigerian company or a German company?

P & G, Nestlé, Guiness e.t.c are European companies founded over a hundred years by Europeans in Europe. They only came to Nigeria to open branches of these companies and that is why these companies do not have their headquarters in Nigeria.

Abeg I don tire to explain.

Bro you simply don't understand the concept of economics.

Attai was not born in Jos, he did not school in Jos, in fact I doubt he made the money to build his company from Jos. He was born in another country and just like any other investor looking for opportunities decided to set up his business in Jos.

P&G, Nestle and co also took the decision to set their businesses in Nigeria. Those companies are referred to as multinational corporations , They don't just open a branch in Nigerian, They have business partners in Nigeria who have shares in the company..


Everyone of those investors hire locals to manufacture and sell their products.

They all contribute to the local economy by paying taxes and paying workers salary

The most important point which is flying over head is that they all contribute to the development and growth of their host communities.

If I tell you how I hate Yoruba leaders for destroying the youths and setting them up for failure! Yoruba allowed their land to be cement slabs all over and foreigners coming in to do as they wish.

No investment will go to certain places even they give land out for free but Yoruba dropped the ball entirely by having all God could give a people and still didn't use it for our own good.

I spoke against Dangote cement factory before the construction few years back that it's too dangerous for health reasons and how things like that should be in unpopulated areas like Lagos/Ibadan expwy or far places like 1 hour from the nearest town but no one else said anything about it then. I even said if we can stop selling land to Nigerians who will later use it to insult us and instead lease to expats for 50 years. If Nigerians come to Yorubaland and can't expand they won't be flocking in.

Philippines don't sell land to foreigners at all, you rent for 25 years and keep renewing or marry a Filipino and put it in his/her name. Why can't Yoruba do this to save the rest of their children's future.

Also, all federal govt jobs in Yorubaland should be filled with Yoruba first before the next Nigerians this is how it is done everywhere except in Yorubaland. This is why we keep seeing this kind of threads, they must have been thinking that if we could allow the other injustice to stick, we will allow this too.

I have an info I can't share here for the same reasons, there's an all Yoruba forum coming where we will be able to discuss certain things soon.

Goke7:


our too liberal politicians and elites are the problem, am sorry to say this perhaps allowing dangote to build his refinery in Lagos may even hurt us more in future, even though some of our yoruba elites have strong stakes in it. We need to redefine our agenda as a yoruba nation, igbos hardly give their lands to strangers reason you cannot find so many huge investments from outsiders there. As we keep on attracting these investments, we need to on the other hand redefine the rules of engagement. Yes we are doing a lot for ourselves but this too much liberality is making them think we are fools and exposing us to unnecessary threats from enemies within. The multinational and foreign investments makes more sense than all these land grabbers who call themselves investors and still want to rule over us. We need to rethink.

Redcrafton:


There was no regions when the Portuguese came. Lagos was a protectorate of its own. The Aworis and the fishing tribe form Bini own Lagos.
You come all the way from Osun claiming Lagos. Would you blame a man from Borno claiming Abuja. You guys are funny.

You are arguing blindly. Read. Abi you igbos no come from anywhere. Tell me how bini climes ondo and ogun to own Lagos. Even a bini man will shut you up if you continue talking this trash. You think lagos is Onitsha that is a bona-fide bini land and heritage. Go and read the history of onitsha.

spendoon:

Bros I don't want to start any arguement with the west which I believe is the main agenda of this thread and I also take them to be Ally's here on nairaland but watin you talk there no correct at all

SW is bigger per capita. The SW GDP being bigger in aggregate comment than whole north is wrong. SW is bigger that north regions individually broken up eg NW, NE or NC. Again it's weird to compare one geopolitical region to three.

Redcrafton:


Yes the lands here are N50 per plot

Oga stop showing estate, every state has lots of this.

Anambralstson:

Top ten companies that pay highest tax, how many Yoruba firms are here

OMG. I am just going through your comments now and men did you give the Yorubas a bloody nose with your facts.

Kudos! Keep it up.

Gabkosh:
You are arguing blindly. Read. Abi you igbos no come from anywhere. Tell me how bini climes ondo and ogun to own Lagos. Even a bini man will shut you up if you continue talking this trash. You think lagos is Onitsha that is a bona-fide bini land and heritage. Go and read the history of onitsha.

Oshogbo man dragging Lagos. nwaooo

Redcrafton:


Liberal or not...people are ready to sell their lands in Lagos to anyone who has cash....

The developers from the Eastside don't play hide and seek no do tribalism. They invest where they live and not forgetting where they come from. They are not petty nor clannish. they have lion heart and able to share with others.

Pic: Nestoil Towers in Lagos....owned by an Eastside man

You mean nestoil sponsored by Yoruba man bank GTB

Gabkosh:
Oga stop showing estate, every state has lots of this.

You just jumped into discussion...from no where, Egungu you go so enter express.
The main stuff was that the poor man said people are running from the region. But you jumped into the discussion without following the thread. Where did I say other people lack estates?

Nowenuse:

Says a schizophrenic patient.


Hahaha, you see, we are not like you guys who are so tribal and deal on tribe daily. I am a Kwararafan descendant of Plateau stock. Isn't that enough identity for you?
Proud Yoruba? An identity given to Oyo people by Hausas . Tell me something else pls.


Majority of middlebelters are descendants of the Kwararafan kingdom & Nok. So your source ish is baseless. Besides, Ijebu people (2nd largest clan in Yoruba land said they came from Sudan)

https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2010/06/25/ijebus-are-from-sudan-awujale-insists/amp/

And the Aworis said they are from Benin

https://dailypost.ng/2017/05/03/lagos-not-belong-yorubas-oba-akiolu/amp/.

You can only feed your shameless lies to the ignorant public!
Yoruba caricature identity was only answered by the Oyo people as at the time British came. The Egbas, Aworis, Ijebus, Igboonas, Okuns e.t.c never ever identified themselves as Yorubas in the past!

And thank God for the British who came to save your dying asses! If not, your people would have been decimated.

Fulanis had already taken over Kwara and not up till few decades ago, all your Igbomina & Ibolo Kings from Jebba down to Offa, Omu-aran & Asa were all coronated with bedsheets and given staff of office right from the Emir of Ilorin's palace.

Okun people on the other hand were real time biitches of the Nupes .... Nupes raided them whenever they felt like it and heavily depopulated and destroyed their lands. That is the reason why the British classified Okuns under the Northern protectorate, cos they were simply considered a conquered territory of the Nupe Emirates (Caliphate).
Till date, your people (Oworo under Okun) have the largest landarea in Lokoja LGA (Felele), yet there is a Hausa-Nupe Maigari of Lokoja ruling the town.
Shame nor dey catch una?

While Fulanis & Nupes were colonizing different parts of Yoruba land, Benins were colonizing Lagos and many parts of Ondo land.

You Yorubas shamelessly lost Igalas to us, same way you lost Itsekiris to the Benins.

Igalas speak a Yoroboid language. Inspite of the heavy Kwararafan corruption, the average Yoruba will understand Igala when it is spoken.
If not for my Kwararafan ancestors who came to colonize the Yoruba speaking Okpoto aboriginals of Igalaland and gave them the current Igala identity they take pride in, Igalas would have been classified by the British under the Yoruba nation.

All the lands Ebiras are staying in Kogi today was Yoruba speaking territory, cos not until the fall of Kwararafan empire, the Yoruba speaking Okpoto & Okun people were neighbors.
That is simply to tell you that the whole of present day Kogi was supposed to be Yoruba territory . But my Kwararafan ancestors took it from you people. Jukun Kings colonized the Yoruba speaking Okpotos, Ebira immigrants displaced the Okuns further Westwards, while Nupes were enslaving Okuns from the North

And today, in a once fluorishing Yoruba speaking territory (Kogi), Kwararafan descendants are now in charge


Itsekiris were a coastal Ijebu speaking people, but a group of fleeing Benin prince & royalties colonized all them into a kingdom subject to the Benin empire. Today, all Itsekiris pay homage to Benin and not Ife!

Can't you see that you come from a tribe who was saved by the British! Just go and thank your stars!
The foolish Yoruba leaders of Oyo empire, instead of them to go after bringing the Eastern Yoruba speaking realm like the Ijebus, Okuns & Okpotos (now Igalas) under their reign, they went after Non-Yoruba speaking Dahomey people.
See how same Dahomey sent menstruating and breastfeeding women warriors to defeat them!

The only fvcking ethnic group who had the liver to conquer and colonize a part of Kwararafan descendants were the Fulanis.

But you Yorubas on the other hand were gangbanged from time immemorial by Benins, Fulanis, Nupes & Kwararafans .
Who knows, Dahomians would have also joined the orgy if not for the intervention of Western colonialists...

Today you people beat your empty stinky chests claiming a large Yoruba nation which could only have been possible by the British.

With Kwara gone to the Fulanis, Lagos, Ondo & Itsekiris gone to the Benins and Kogi gone to the Kwararafans, tell me how only Oyo, Ogun & Osun would have been anything to reckon with as a large nation.

Read my lips, you people were saved by the Bell. Lucky bastards.


An idiiot like you is meeting me for the first time, that is why you don't know who I am!
Ask the likes of Legendhero who have known me for a long time, I am called NOWENUSE, the one-man army.
If you pass me with a friendly wave, I give you warmth and friendliness, but if you step on my tail, I give u destruction.

See, just as I told Legendhero, I do not like to play dirty, go and ask the likes of Deadlytruth who were making noise about his people in Akoko-Edo never being under Ebiras, when I gave him the embarrassment of his life, he deactivated his account and retired from Nairaland.

On another thread, I told some Yorubas that during the colonial era, Hausa language was the medium of senior education in Ilorin and that there was almost an equal number of Non-Yorubas (Hausa, fulanis, Nupes, Malians) in Ilorin than Yorubas and they started ranting nonsense as usual like u are doing here, when I brought out the colonial documents of Ilorin, they all fled in shame!

I dare you to provoke me further, I will not only post documents of how different ethnic nations ruled and were decimating Yoruba speakers, I will open an entirely new thread on that, and I will tag all the Igbo warriors on nairaland to come and feast on it.

See this idiiot! Even Ekiti people were devastated by Nupe-Fulani raids and hence they were even classified as Northern Nigerians under Nupe influence and u are here talking nonsense?


gomojam, redcrafton, diiet

Myobjective, Forgiveness & Legendhero,

I still have some respects for the 3 of you.
You guys should call Covidodo to order.

I have nothing to gain bringing up embarrassing colonial documents to ridicule Yorubas here, especially one by Fulani-Nupe conquests & raids, cos while your brother is being foolish, the Fulanis who opened this thread are happy that we are fighting ourselves.

You people should warn him let us not degenerate this thread any further and let him not provoke me to open an entirely new thread against Yorubas.

He was the first to start insulting me and my people. Ontop of that I apologized and agreed to turn a new leaf when another Yoruba person called me out, but he wants to take me down to the worst!

Thank you.

Look at this dirty,stinking,smelling OSU hiding under an imaginary Kwarafan.
What is kwarafan?A collection of latrines?

You are a barbarian coward who cannot lace the shoe of a Yoruba toddler.
You were caught still walking naked in 1921.
Once a coward,always a coward.
Any Omoluabi should answer him as an Osu.
He is a bonafide OSU.
These are your people in 1936

Redcrafton:


Oshogbo man dragging Lagos. nwaooo

All these fact Now, is just a pain you are going through. You haven't answered by question. I want to know, how bini left ondo the have border with, now jumped ogun and oyo to own Lagos. That is not too hard to ask I guess. if you can answer me, then I will gladly give you how binis are the bona-fide owner of onitsha. Shall we?

Gabkosh:
You mean nestoil sponsored by Yoruba man bank GTB

What are you saying? Were the entire Yoruba states not sponsored by Niger Delta oil sales? Besides who told you other tribes dont have account nor buy shares from GTB. Is it then correct to say the UBA, Zenith, Access, Union Bank are Igbo banks because their CEO are Igbos? Also so Dangote group are no more his because he took loans from Zenith, GTB, Access, UBA, etc, etc. You guys like to argue just for the sake of it.

Nowenuse:


Stop being slow! I was never the one who started the comparisons of the economies of Jos & Ibadan.
I only said that Jos looks better than Ibadan finish.

It was Legendhero that started talking about economies, educational institutions, malls e.t.c.

He was gallivanting and talking down Jos until I brought NASCO out for him as a knockout he never expected!
Nasco with it's headquarters in Jos is worth more than 10 of some of the micro industries in Ibadan put together.

I also listed 7 tin mining companies for him! And many other industries.
So throw away that your belief that the tin mining industry is dead in Jos. It's there, it's not just as lucrative as before when it was among the top 5 income generators of pre-colonial Nigeria. Besides, the FG are the ones who collect taxes from the tin mining industries and not the state govts.

I also told him that Jos had the biggest ultramodern market market in West Africa if not for the crisis, he swore on me that it was a lie. I showed him proofs and he kept quiet.

Ibadan is bigger than Jos in size and is more economically influential than Jos no doubt, no argument, just that Jos will also rubbish it in other areas and aspects.

For starters, Jos has 2 universitiy teaching hospitals, but Ibadan has only 1.

Jos still attracts more tourists than Ibadan.
People come to Jos to see the only Intra-city wildlife park in West Africa.

And point of correction, me talking about D'banj's wife from Jos was just me proving to Forgiveness that Ibadan can never be more cosmopolitan than Jos. He made that claim and I countered him with that fact.

I don't honestly know what is wrong wit you bruv

Mining and Tourism does not contribute up to 5% of Nigerian GDP..

You are just making bassless argument.

Even at that how does large scale mining take place when train is dead and federal roads are bad?

And how does tourism survive amongst the intertribal war going on in Jos and Plateau in general?

Anyways you have proven to be a man that is hardly honest on this thread.

Regardless, I actually thought you would bring in Stats from.a reputable institution that would show that Jos is more economical viable than Oyo and Ogun. I forgot all you got is Nasco.

Nasco is not even ranked among the first twenty most valuable company in Nigeria.

Honestly! You have proven to be nothing but an empty vessel.

Zukerberg:


Look at this dirty,stinking,smelling OSU hiding under an imaginary Kwarafan.
What is kwarafan?A collection of latrines?

You are a barbarian coward who cannot lace the shoe of a Yoruba toddler.
You were caught still walking naked in 1921.
Once a coward,always a coward.
Any Omoluabi should answer him as an Osu.
He is a bonafide OSU.
These are your people in 1936

Osus are your pain and your nemesis, Abobaku. Anyone who calls the Yorubas out is an Osu.

A northern open a thread asking what the Yorubas have compared to the north? Ever since the narrative has been between you Abobaku and the others. Why.

Nowenuse:

Says a schizophrenic patient.


Hahaha, you see, we are not like you guys who are so tribal and deal on tribe daily. I am a Kwararafan descendant of Plateau stock. Isn't that enough identity for you?
Proud Yoruba? An identity given to Oyo people by Hausas . Tell me something else pls.

Who gave Kwararafan their identify? Read the bolded.

It is believed that Kwararafa was either a confederacy conquest state, led by the modern Jukun people or perhaps a collective name given by their Muslim foes for a number of pagan peoples to their south.

Majority of middlebelters are descendants of the Kwararafan kingdom & Nok. So your source ish is baseless.

Middlebelters are not descendants of Kwararafan, rather they were multiethnic groups that formed a confederal system of government to fight against common enemy.

Kororofa (Kwararafa in Hausa diction) was a multiethnic state and/or confederacy centered along the Benue River valley in what is today central Nigeria.

Besides, Ijebu people (2nd largest clan in Yoruba land said they came from Sudan)

https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2010/06/25/ijebus-are-from-sudan-awujale-insists/amp/

Did he say he is not Yoruba?

Well, an Ijeba man, Awolowo, united the whole clans under one umbrella. Egbe Omo odua.

And the Aworis said they are from Benin

https://dailypost.ng/2017/05/03/lagos-not-belong-yorubas-oba-akiolu/amp/.

Aworis didn't say they are from Benin, rather oba of Lagos (who is not an Awori) said, Aworis are from Benin.


The story is that Olofin (or Ogunfunminire, founder of the Awori) and his followers left the palace of King Oduduwa (founder of the Yoruba) in Ile-Ife and migrated southward along a river. Oduduwa had given Olofin a mud plate and instructed him to place it on the water and follow it until it sank into the river.

You can only feed your shameless lies to the ignorant public!
Yoruba caricature identity was only answered by the Oyo people as at the time British came. The Egbas, Aworis, Ijebus, Igboonas, Okuns e.t.c never ever identified themselves as Yorubas in the past!

They identified themselves as Omo odua in the past.

And thank God for the British who came to save your dying asses! If not, your people would have been decimated.

British didn't save anything.

The last three wars they fought against each other, they were defeated.

You should thank God the British saved the Wukari Federation, the remnant of Kwararafan kingdom that was destroyed by the Fulanis.

By the end of that century, Kwararafa paid tribute to Bornu. By the 19th century they were reduced to small towns, resisting, for a period, the Fulani Jihad of the Sokoto Caliphate


The Aku Uka of Wukari became the regional power in the 1840s after the once-powerful Kwararafa state had been destroyed during the Fulani jihad (1804–1810) and its aftermath.



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Fulanis had already taken over Kwara and not up till few decades ago, all your Igbomina & Ibolo Kings from Jebba down to Offa, Omu-aran & Asa were all coronated with bedsheets and given staff of office right from the Emir of Ilorin's palace.

Fula never took over Kwara. The people of Ilorin decided to.

Didn't you say your people disposed Fulanis who forcefully ruled you in Adamawa? What's the problem if they have stopped using bedsheets?

Okun people on the other hand were real time biitches of the Nupes .... Nupes raided them whenever they felt like it and heavily depopulated and destroyed their lands. That is the reason why the British classified Okuns under the Northern protectorate, cos they were simply considered a conquered territory of the Nupe Emirates (Caliphate).
Till date, your people (Oworo under Okun) have the largest landarea in Lokoja LGA (Felele), yet there is a Hausa-Nupe Maigari of Lokoja ruling the town.
Shame nor dey catch una?

Nupes were tributary state of Oyo empire like Kwararafan kingdom was a tributary state Borno Kingdom.


After this, Oba Orompoto led attacks to obliterate the Nupe to ensure Oyo was never threatened by them again

While Fulanis & Nupes were colonizing different parts of Yoruba land, Benins were colonizing Lagos and many parts of Ondo land.

Kwararafan kingdom was aslo colonized.

Benin king is not different from Oni of Ife or Alaafin of Oyo. Dem be blood brothers.

You Yorubas shamelessly lost Igalas to us, same way you lost Itsekiris to the Benins.

Origin of Igala people is still debatable. So, I can't say anything about them.

However, are the Itsekiris under the umbrella of Benin or Omo Egbe odua?

Igalas speak a Yoroboid language. Inspite of the heavy Kwararafan corruption, the average Yoruba will understand Igala when it is spoken.
If not for my Kwararafan ancestors who came to colonize the Yoruba speaking Okpoto aboriginals of Igalaland and gave them the current Igala identity they take pride in, Igalas would have been classified by the British under the Yoruba nation.

Yorubas don't know much about the origin of Igalas. Maybe, they know but I don't know.p

All the lands Ebiras are staying in Kogi today was Yoruba speaking territory, cos not until the fall of Kwararafan empire, the Yoruba speaking Okpoto & Okun people were neighbors.
That is simply to tell you that the whole of present day Kogi was supposed to be Yoruba territory . But my Kwararafan ancestors took it from you people. Jukun Kings colonized the Yoruba speaking Okpotos, Ebira immigrants displaced the Okuns further Westwards, while Nupes were enslaving Okuns from the North

And today, in a once fluorishing Yoruba speaking territory (Kogi), Kwararafan descendants are now in charge

As I type, Okun and Okpoto are under the umbrella of Omo odua not conquered Kwararafan.




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Itsekiris were a coastal Ijebu speaking people, but a group of fleeing Benin prince & royalties colonized all them into a kingdom subject to the Benin empire. Today, all Itsekiris pay homage to Benin and not Ife!

Can't you see that you come from a tribe who was saved by the British! Just go and thank your stars!
The foolish Yoruba leaders of Oyo empire, instead of them to go after bringing the Eastern Yoruba speaking realm like the Ijebus, Okuns & Okpotos (now Igalas) under their reign, they went after Non-Yoruba speaking Dahomey people.
See how same Dahomey sent menstruating and breastfeeding women warriors to defeat them!

The only fvcking ethnic group who had the liver to conquer and colonize a part of Kwararafan descendants were the Fulanis.

But you Yorubas on the other hand were gangbanged from time immemorial by Benins, Fulanis, Nupes & Kwararafans .
Who knows, Dahomians would have also joined the orgy if not for the intervention of Western colonialists...

Today you people beat your empty stinky chests claiming a large Yoruba nation which could only have been possible by the British.

With Kwara gone to the Fulanis, Lagos, Ondo & Itsekiris gone to the Benins and Kogi gone to the Kwararafans, tell me how only Oyo, Ogun & Osun would have been anything to reckon with as a large nation.

Read my lips, you people were saved by the Bell. Lucky bastards.


An idiiot like you is meeting me for the first time, that is why you don't know who I am!
Ask the likes of Legendhero who have known me for a long time, I am called NOWENUSE, the one-man army.
If you pass me with a friendly wave, I give you warmth and friendliness, but if you step on my tail, I give u destruction.

See, just as I told Legendhero, I do not like to play dirty, go and ask the likes of Deadlytruth who were making noise about his people in Akoko-Edo never being under Ebiras, when I gave him the embarrassment of his life, he deactivated his account and retired from Nairaland.

On another thread, I told some Yorubas that during the colonial era, Hausa language was the medium of senior education in Ilorin and that there was almost an equal number of Non-Yorubas (Hausa, fulanis, Nupes, Malians) in Ilorin than Yorubas and they started ranting nonsense as usual like u are doing here, when I brought out the colonial documents of Ilorin, they all fled in shame!

I dare you to provoke me further, I will not only post documents of how different ethnic nations ruled and were decimating Yoruba speakers, I will open an entirely new thread on that, and I will tag all the Igbo warriors on nairaland to come and feast on it.

See this idiiot! Even Ekiti people were devastated by Nupe-Fulani raids and hence they were even classified as Northern Nigerians under Nupe influence and u are here talking nonsense?


gomojam, redcrafton, diiet

Myobjective, Forgiveness & Legendhero,

I still have some respects for the 3 of you.
You guys should call Covidodo to order.

I have nothing to gain bringing up embarrassing colonial documents to ridicule Yorubas here, especially one by Fulani-Nupe conquests & raids, cos while your brother is being foolish, the Fulanis who opened this thread are happy that we are fighting ourselves.

You people should warn him let us not degenerate this thread any further and let him not provoke me to open an entirely new thread against Yorubas.

He was the first to start insulting me and my people. Ontop of that I apologized and agreed to turn a new leaf when another Yoruba person called me out, but he wants to take me down to the worst!

Thank you.

All I see here is story. I have address them all.

Nowenuse:

Stop being slow! I was never the one who started the comparisons of the economies of Jos & Ibadan.
I only said that Jos looks better than Ibadan finish.

You are more slower. What do you mean by jos look better than Ibada. I think we have trashed this argument and you shifted your stance to Ibadan and Kaduna. Your own definition of better is greeneries and topography and one would but wonder if you are okay.

It was Legendhero that started talking about economies, educational institutions, malls e.t.c.

Nope. I was amazed what you mean by Jos is better than IB which explained why I asked you what areas are you talking about. I asked you to tell me where you think Jos was better. Is it in Education? Economies? Infrastructure? Glory? People? etc. It is again a real insult in trying to compare Ibadan with Jos on all these indices.

He was gallivanting and talking down Jos until I brought NASCO out for him as a knockout he never expected!
Nasco with it's headquarters in Jos is worth more than 10 of some of the micro industries in Ibadan put together.

You are saying nonesense. So these food and beveragies companies in Ibadan alone Fan Milk Plc, Yale foods, Procter & Gamble (P&G), CWAY group, Nigerian Eagle Flour mills, Lister Flour Mills, Seven-Up Bottling Company Plc, Sweetco Foods Limited, Premier Feed Mills, British American Tobacco, Nigerian Breweries, etc. to mention a few. are what you call Micro industries?

The joke is on you. I don't even know where to start the comparison coz it is just plain rubbish trying to compare Jos and Ibadan. On all indices backed by statistical reference, Jos should be competing with Maiduguri and not Ibadan.

I also listed 7 tin mining companies for him! And many other industries.
So throw away that your belief that the tin mining industry is dead in Jos. It's there, it's not just as lucrative as before when it was among the top 5 income generators of pre-colonial Nigeria. Besides, the FG are the ones who collect taxes from the tin mining industries and not the state govts.

Again know when people igore ignorance. I will engage you if you have said something more intellectual. 7mining companies? what is their worth collectively? How much do they contribute to the GDP of Jos? Last I heard, Plateau is swimming in the bottom whenever list of States with GDP and IGR are being discussed. Your own sources since all this while is mere hearsays and fabriation of statistics from your brain.

When people see you have no sources to back your claim, they will generally ignore you. Coz what is there to talk about when reality is totally different from your fantasies.

I also told him that Jos had the biggest ultramodern market market in West Africa if not for the crisis, he swore on me that it was a lie. I showed him proofs and he kept quiet.

You are a liar. Sho us the reference that Jos had the biggest ultramodern market in west Africa. I want to see your sources.

Ibadan is bigger than Jos in size and is more economically influential than Jos no doubt, no argument, just that Jos will also rubbish it in other areas and aspects.

Other areas like topography and greenery? Is that now what you understood by development? I laugh when you first started talking about topography when we first discussed Ibadan and Jos development on this thread. After a superior argument from me, you cowed out and started shouting Kaduna. You have spoken with double mouth on this thread and always changing perspective on topic which reveal you to the audience as being confused.

For starters, Jos has 2 universitiy teaching hospitals, but Ibadan has only 1. Jos still attracts more tourists than Ibadan.
People come to Jos to see the only Intra-city wildlife park in West Africa.

UCH alone is better than all the hospitals in the whole Plateau. Do you even know what they call UCH? Oyo have another teaching hospital in Lautech.

And point of correction, me talking about D'banj's wife from Jos was just me proving to Forgiveness that Ibadan can never be more cosmopolitan than Jos. He made that claim and I countered him with that fact.

Lastly, You are so confused on this thread and you have been too contradictory. Stick to one premises and defend them one after the other. Stop confusing yourself.

And I've been WFH which explained why I've been on and off on the thread.

Redcrafton:


Osus are your pain and your nemesis, Abobaku. Anyone who calls the Yorubas out is an Osu.

A northern open a thread asking what the Yorubas have compared to the north? Ever since the narrative has been between you Abobaku and the others. Why.

The reason is because you are an OSU alternating monickers.
Osus are easily identified through their characteristics. No middlebelter does this but the renowned, hateful Osus.

Nowenuse:


You are now becoming a clown

That's what I notice about you Yorubas, when u people are bloodied, you result to being clowns or insulting.

Typical Yoruba

Corner them.. they will insult their parents.. na why I overlook their insults..
To me na dia parents and whole Yoruba land dem Dey insult

I don’t reply a Yoruba man insult on social media
Secondly they no born dem well to insult me one on one..

Told Yoruba people they don’t understand how Nigerians see them..
They’re everywhere insulting igbos .. believeing igbos are their problem..and liking their post..

Last two years it was the south south.. many even use southern name as monikers to insult igbos and cause division.. 2019.. south south .. fall their hand.. they Yoruba people disappear from social media .. the whole south south thing ended..
Today is the North.. they’re playing exactly same game they played... pitching Igbos against the north..
I told them north don’t trust Bayerebe.. but they still don’t understand.. they will call nyamiri and abuse .. told them Nigerians understand Yoruba more than Yoruba understand themselves

2023 is close .. pray make apc give Yoruba ticket.. so they will understand a lot..
ignorance is bliss

Gabkosh:
All these fact Now, is just a pain you are going through. You haven't answered by question. I want to know, how bini left ondo the have border with, now jumped ogun and oyo to own Lagos. That is not too hard to ask I guess. if you can answer me, then I will gladly give you how binis are the bona-fide owner of onitsha. Shall we?

Ask Obi of Lagos.

Just work on Oshogbo. I wonder why no one drags there with you.

Nowenuse:


TY Danjuma's language has changed over the years! He's no longer an apologetic one Nigerianist. Haven't u see his comments recently?
Yakubu Gowon is the only idiiot my people have and we will publicly disown him latest by next year. Such a shameless old man.

Although nor be he fault. 1) He grew up in Zaria (Hausa land). 2) He is just too proud to admit that his one Nigeria legacy which he lived all his life for is now a failure.

My prayer is that God keeps him alive for the next 5 years to see what his one Nigeria will become. Someone like him deserves an agonizing death in regrets.

People like TY have realized their mistakes and taken a U-turn, but not Gowon.

Which Ekweremadu are u talking of? Same one that Igbo youths almost lynched abroad?

Igbos have clearly shown that they are not in support of their one-Nigerianist leaders.

You people on the other hand still worship and idolize Tinubu.

Make una pray welwell make Buhari give Tinubu person presidency by 2023, if not we go take laugh make una deactivate una accounts for nairaland oo.
U people would be the laughing stock of the world.

I am a Yoruba man, and Tinubu will never be president. I support any southerners from anywhere. But to start blackmailing on what you did not do, I won't take that. Igbos have shown they ate cowards when it comes to politics, why didn't they bring out one igbo man to face Yoruba man at the poll and of they win, so be it.

Iamgrey5:
Bro you simply don't understand the concept of economics.

Attai was not born in Jos, he did not school in Jos, in fact I doubt he made the money to build his company from Jos. He was born in another country and just like any other investor looking for opportunities decided to set up his business in Jos.

P&G, Nestle and co also took the decision to set their businesses in Nigeria. Those companies are referred to as multinational corporations , They don't just open a branch in Nigerian, They have business partners in Nigeria who have shares in the company..

Everyone of those investors hire locals to manufacture and sell their products.

They all contribute to the local economy by paying taxes and paying workers salary

The most important point which is flying over head is that they all contribute to the development and growth of their host communities.

I tire for Nowenuse. He is just speaking like someone that dosen't understand economics. He is calling multi-nationals like P&G mushroom companies and one would but wonder what he meant by that.

The NASCO guy is just like all those foreign investors, he has been calling him indigenous like he was a Nigerian of Jos origin before I saw that the founder was an Ethiopian who just came to Nigeria for business and established the company.

What are you talking about?

SW contributions alone is bigger than all other Nigeria regions combined!

Former finance minister Kemi Adeosun said 2 Yoruba states "Lagos and Ogun alone contributes 60% of the Nigeria's income" on purpose to let everyone know and nobody refuted it.

Blue3k:


SW is bigger per capita. The SW GDP being bigger in aggregate comment than whole north is wrong. SW is bigger that north regions individually broken up eg NW, NE or NC. Again it's weird to compare one geopolitical region to three.

Zukerberg:


The reason is because you are an OSU alternating monickers.
Osus are easily identified through their characteristics. No middlebelter does this but the renowned, hateful Osus.

Why not focus on the topic and stop wasting your energy on the Osus...? you greedy, clannish, and shady Abobaku.

Nowenuse:


OMG. I am just going through your comments now and men did you give the Yorubas a bloody nose with your facts.

Kudos! Keep it up.

How is that a bloody nose

Aren't those companies operating in Yoruba land according to your Nasco Theory.

Access bank, Zenith bank and Access belongs to igbos and is worth Noting Access bank owner was born in ibadan (Just putting your Nasco theory in mind)

Gtb and Fbn holdings are Yoruba businesses

Dangote belongs to an Hausa/Fulani man

Union, Stanbic ibtc, MTN, Nestle are foreign investments with Minimal Nigerian share holders

Which one of these companies belongs to anyone from Plateau state or middle belt Christian republic?

Redcrafton:


Ask Obi of Lagos.

Just work on Oshogbo. I wonder why no one drags there with you.

Oga ade, I am done with you. I now see you have no brain to argue.

The same Oba called you and your fathers idiot for the lie you posted and credited to him. Naming it as rant of idiots.

Redcrafton:


Why not focus on the topic and stop wasting your energy on the Osus...? you greedy, clannish, and shady Abobaku.

Typical Osu
Your people were met in their dirty,stinking smellibg birthday rags walking nake.d in 1921.

Gabkosh:
Oga ade, I am done with you. I now see you have no brain to argue.

The same Oba called you and your fathers idiot for the lie you posted and credited to him. Naming it as rant of idiots.

Look at how your brain processes arguments? So because he called people id*ot makes his other comments senseless?

Run along. You have no points. Go and develop Oshogbo to be like Lagos!

LegendHero:


No more trying to be politically correct with these guys.

Our fathers have always instilled the culture of restraint in us and we have been told countless times right from birth to never mock people that are going through hardship in life because no one knows tomorrow.

But yet, we Yorubas have been called unprinted names even for things we know nothing about.

When Azikwe solicited for the removal of secession clause from the constitution and mocked Awolowo for fighting for the input of secession clause in the constitution, we never painted the (Igbos) as the problem. We simply moved on and remain resolute.

When the Igbos colluded with the North to jail Adaka Boro for treason just because he wants liberty for his Niger delta people, we Yorubas never tagged the Igbos as devilish. We simply moved on.

When the same Igbos killed our military leaders in a coup that led to countless killings of the Igbos in the North. The Yorubas never behaved like barbarians, rather we showed the same Igbos love and never retaliated in the west.

After the trap set by Azikwe nabbed the Igbos, they went around to blame the Yorubas for the civil war. A war we have nothing to do with initially.

After the war, when the Ikwerres and Ijaw seized the properties of thenIgbos, we never did. We gave them back their properties and some people even helped them to collect their rents and gave it to them. Yet the always term us as the enemy.

When the same Awolowo fought for this ingrate Nowenuse middle belt to be carved out of the core-North during those period, the Igbos look the other way. Yet Yorubas are the devil to him.

When the North and East ganged to remove the mid-west from the western region, we never tagged anyone betrayal. We simply moved on.

Now these guys are starting to see our calmness as being docile.

I have been looking for this comment since. Thank God I found it.

Awo never supported the creation of the Middlebelt region because he so much loved or cared for our people! NO.
He did it just to revenge the Sardauna & Zik for liberating the Midwest minorities.

Setting the records straight.

Besides did all the so-called regions not end in this chaotic mess of centralized states we all have now?
No one can truly be free in this useless country unless the country divides and that is why I get so angry hearing all this restructuring nonsense.