Maximus69:


Heresy simply means what is not true but is being portrayed as the TRUTH.
Jesus have settled the case when he said

"by their fruit you will recognize them" Matthew 7:15-20

Jehovah's Witnesses are saying Jesus is the son of God {Matthew 16:16} and he has his own mindset which totally differs from that of his father {Matthew 26:39} there are things only the father knows that the son doesn't {Mark 13:32}

So if you want to prove otherwise there's no reason to continue arguing blindly, the result is here now.

Unlike the time when Jesus and his followers had to continue entertaining arguments with critics, true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) have been separated from false religionists claiming Christians, and the fruitage of God's holy spirit can be seen in the midst of God's people.

KNOWLEDGE is the accumulation of useful information, of course anyone reading the Bible will acquire knowledge through the pages!

But

WISDOM is the practical application of accumulated information for lasting benefits, lailai trinitarians can't have this because it's a gift of God's holy spirit! Proverbs 2:7

So try to list the achievement of Trinity doctrine and let's compare with the achievements of God's people today! James 2:18-26

I am not arguing Jwit Vs Other Christian denominations. I want us to put facts on the table and not argue blindly. Do not be in a hurry to make your point.

First thing first, Trinitarians do not say that God the Father doesn't exist. Of course! He does. But so does the Son and the Holy Spirit.

To counter your assertion. I assume you have an earthly father right? Of course! You do, u didn't just fall from the sky. Are there things your father's knows that you don't? . Is your father greater than you? Are u the same with your father?........

Is there anything that unites you and your father?
Are you equal with your father?

Now here's the clue to get u thinking.....for me your father must be greater than you right?....I mean if he delegates a task to u, u do it right out of respect and love. But when it comes to equality, I'll say u both are the same. How?

Your nature, your father isn't a higher human being than you. You both are humans. All human beings are equals but authority and role is what differentiates us. While some are presidents, others are cleaners and messangers...everyone has his role.

This is the Trinitarian teaching....one in nature. The Son of God is God United with the Father by the very fact that they share the same nature. However just like humans and angels authority differs.

So the fact that the Father has a higher authority doesn't take away the Divinity of Jesus. Just the same way that your father doesn't take away your humanity

Maximus69:


Heresy simply means what is not true but is being portrayed as the TRUTH.
Jesus have settled the case when he said

"by their fruit you will recognize them" Matthew 7:15-20

Jehovah's Witnesses are saying Jesus is the son of God {Matthew 16:16} and he has his own mindset which totally differs from that of his father {Matthew 26:39} there are things only the father knows that the son doesn't {Mark 13:32}

So if you want to prove otherwise there's no reason to continue arguing blindly, the result is here now.

Unlike the time when Jesus and his followers had to continue entertaining arguments with critics, true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) have been separated from false religionists claiming Christians, and the fruitage of God's holy spirit can be seen in the midst of God's people.

KNOWLEDGE is the accumulation of useful information, of course anyone reading the Bible will acquire knowledge through the pages!

But

WISDOM is the practical application of accumulated information for lasting benefits, lailai trinitarians can't have this because it's a gift of God's holy spirit! Proverbs 2:7

So try to list the achievement of Trinity doctrine and let's compare with the achievements of God's people today! James 2:18-26

Does the Bible contradict itself. No. If u make a point, u must prove from scripture and what scripture u quote must be consistent throughout the Bible. If it does not, you do not understand what you have read.

Revelation 1:17-18: “[17] And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

This is the very word of Jesus Christ. Jusxtapose this with the words of Jehovah

Isaiah 44:6: “Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.”

Why would Jehovah and Jesus describe themselves as the first and the last?

Who is the actual first and last?

Who is stealing whose title?

Be reminded that even in Rev 22:13.. Jesus says I am the Alpha and the Omega. Why would he say that?.....Isn't that Jehovah's title ?

freshboi88:




Does the Bible contradict itself. No. If u make a point, u must prove from scripture and what scripture u quote must be consistent throughout the Bible. If it does not, you do not understand what you have read.

Revelation 1:17-18: “[17] And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

This is the very word of Jesus Christ. Jusxtapose this with the words of Jehovah

Isaiah 44:6: “Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.”

Why would Jehovah and Jesus describe themselves as the first and the last?

Who is the actual first and last?

Who is stealing whose title?

Be reminded that even in Rev 22:13.. Jesus says I am the Alpha and the Omega. Why would he say that?.....Isn't that Jehovah's title ?

I'm not asking for endless, hopeless and pointless arguments.

Achievements of the TRINITY doctrine please?

Maximus69:


I'm not asking for endless, hopeless and pointless arguments.

Achievements of the TRINITY doctrine please?

You have no answers to the question asked. Why did Christ refer to himself as the first and the last ?

freshboi88:


You have no answers to the question asked. Why did Christ refer to himself as the first and the last?

Because he is the first and the last spirit son of God (angel) to be transformed into a human to live in the midst of humans! 1Corinthians 15:45

So what have trinitarians achieved so far with TRINITY?

Shelumiel:
The JWs and Catholic are not gonna like this

Are you OK? If you don't know what you are saying, keep quiet!

Catholics strongly believe that Jesus is God.

Maximus69:


Because he is the first and the last spirit son of God (angel) to be transformed into a human to live in the midst of humans! 1Corinthians 15:45

So what have trinitarians achieved so far with TRINITY?

You and I know that u didn't make sense with what u said just now. But let's move on. Goto Revelation 1:8, I'll quote it here for all to see.

Rev 1:8 Revelation 1:8: “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.”

Here Jesus addresses himself as the Almighty. Do u know what that means?.....Almighty.....as in dominion over all.

Now why will Jesus address himself as the Almighty?

Why didn't Jehovah rebuke him for addressing himself this way?

Why will he claim to be the beginning and the end, the one who is who was and who is to come?

Now going to 1 cor 15:45 u mentioned, let's see what's there


Hahahaha....u r very funny. This is what 1 cor 15:45 says

1 cor 15:45 The Scriptures tell us, “The first man, Adam, became a living person.” But the last Adam—that is, Christ—is a life-giving Spirit.

A life giving spirit....can an angel give life?...who is capable of giving life?...Only God can give life. This verse you quoted proves the Divinity of Jesus Christ.

freshboi88:


You and I know that u didn't make sense with what u said just now. But let's move on. Goto Revelation 1:8, I'll quote it here for all to see.

Rev 1:8 Revelation 1:8: “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.”

Here Jesus addresses himself as the Almighty. Do u know what that means?.....Almighty.....as in dominion over all.

Now why will Jesus address himself as the Almighty?

Why didn't Jehovah rebuke him for addressing himself this way?

Why will he claim to be the beginning and the end, the one who is who was and who is to come?

Now going to 1 cor 15:45 u mentioned, let's see what's there


Hahahaha....u r very funny. This is what 1 cor 15:45 says

1 cor 15:45 The Scriptures tell us, “The first man, Adam, became a living person.” But the last Adam—that is, Christ—is a life-giving Spirit.

A life giving spirit....can an angel give life?...who is capable of giving life?...Only God can give life. This verse you quoted proves the Divinity of Jesus Christ.

These are mere arguments of no benefits my guy.

2+2=4. But someone may choose to argue that the answer is 3.

So to resolve this just to put into practice and let's see the result.

What are the achievements of Trinity?

Maximus69:


These are mere arguments of no benefits my guy.

2+2=4. But someone may choose to argue that the answer is 3.

So to resolve this just to put into practice and let's see the result.

What are the achievements of Trinity?

You say Jesus is not God....I give u scripture where Jesus calls himself God. Nd yet u say these are just mere arguments

Do u have info to counter what Jesus said in Rev 1:8....where he said he is God the Almighty. No be me talk am nah co Jesus talk am bros

Maximus69:


These are mere arguments of no benefits my guy.

2+2=4. But someone may choose to argue that the answer is 3.

So to resolve this just to put into practice and let's see the result.

What are the achievements of Trinity?

I can see u dnt have an answer, xo u wanna divert the arguement with irrelevant questions


What are the achievement of Ur Jesus is angel Micheal doctrine?

TATIME:


Are you still wasting your time with Myer?

If someone says 'God's word contradicts itself', please what spirit is in such a person?

People like Myer are agents of darkness and they which everyone walks about in the dark. John 3:19 So even if you're trying to bring a lampstand to help everyone see clearly, people like Myer will continue to tell you their is no need for light!

Myer's likeness for Jesus is that of people who loves hailing but aren't interested in keeping to principles! Matthew 15:8-9

Why is it that when someone doesn't agree with you, then it simply means he is an unbeliever or full of darkness. The sad part is you never put up scriptural explanation for once in your defence of his assertion.

I may not support his assertion, but he asked you serious and intelligent questions pointing to the scriptures and you can't provide him answers but tag him names. This is a very bad sign, I must say. And I see this as a way if diversion.

Answer his questions, provide convincing explanation and even if he doesn't take it respect his stand and move. I hope this is not how you treat people you claim to meet on the streets and call them names when they disagree with your doctrine.

freshboi88:


I can see u dnt have an answer, xo u wanna divert the arguement with irrelevant questions
What are the achievement of Ur Jesus is angel Micheal doctrine?

Great!

Michael has been organizing God's people from the beginning till now! Daniel 12:1

He became human and continued as he used to do as a spirit being. John 1:14

Today he has organized God's people to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! John 17:20-23
They don't carry weapons to settle issues so they're at PEACE with everyone! Isaiah 2:2-4; 9:6
They preach and teach effectively in their neighbourhood so all those who accepted their teaching have LOVE amongst themselves! John 13:34-35
They meet together for Bible discussions and since they all bow to whatever the spirit concluded, they all live by the same principles! 1Corinthians 1:10
They have solid FAITH so everyone throughout the globe know they're zealous preachers and teachers of God's word! Matthew 28:19-20
They're the best husbands, wives and Children in any society you may find them! 2Timothy 3:16-17

All these and many more Michael (Jesus) have assisted his followers to achieve in the past 100 years of their activities, from 1919-2019

So please tell me what Jesus (TRINITY) has achieved so far!

Christians be careful about threads such as this that pitch you against one another in knowledge.

Timothy 1-11, warns against going into endless genonologies. Things the new age teachers do that lead to more disputes. They wish to be seen as teachers.

Jesus is part of the trinity". . Jesus is not part of the trinity".. Jesus is mechizedek ..no he us not.

Greek origin of word...rhema and all other needless pursuit that do not promotes chrsit.


Christ is an humble spirit he is not particular about praise or you exaltations. He himself said not all who call me lord lord will enter my kingdom bit those who do God will. (Demonstration of love)

Knowledge puffs up but love purifies.

These are the days if his spirit. Go out and manifest it. Love and giving.

...

hupernikao:


Why is it that when someone doesn't agree with you, then it simply means he is an unbeliever or full of darkness. The sad part is you never put up scriptural explanation for once in your defence of his assertion.

I may not support his assertion, but he asked you serious and intelligent questions pointing to the scriptures and you can't provide him answers but tag him names. This is a very bad sign, I must say. And I see this as a way if diversion.

Answer his questions, provide convincing explanation and even if he doesn't take it respect his stand and move. I hope this is not how you treat people you claim to meet on the streets and call them names when they disagree with your doctrine.

Jesus strictly warned us not to waste time with people who don't want to learn. Matthew 10:13-15
His instruction says "go in search of the lost sheep of the house of Israel" Matthew 10:6
We need not start wasting out previous time with an atheist in disguise. Someone who keeps saying God's word contradicts itself even adding that the Qur'an is better than the Bible has spoken in volumes!

Maximus69:


Great!

Michael has been organizing God's people from the beginning till now! Daniel 12:1

He became human and continued as he used to do as a spirit being. John 1:14

Today he has organized God's people to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! John 17:20-23
They don't carry weapons to settle issues so they're at PEACE with everyone! Isaiah 2:2-4; 9:6
They preach and teach effectively in their neighbourhood so all those who accepted their teaching have LOVE amongst themselves! John 13:34-35
They meet together for Bible discussions and since they all bow to whatever the spirit concluded, they all live by the same principles! 1Corinthians 1:10
They have solid FAITH so everyone throughout the globe know they're zealous preachers and teachers of God's word! Matthew 28:19-20
They're the best husbands, wives and Children in any society you may find them! 2Timothy 3:16-17

All these and many more Michael (Jesus) have assisted his followers to achieve in the past 100 years of their activities, from 1919-2019

So please tell me what Jesus (TRINITY) has achieved so far!

Firstly Jesus is the only Begotten Son of God. Begotten not made. Angel Micheal was created.

Secondly, Jesus in the Trinity is the Word of God, he was not organising Gods people, however, Everything was made through him including you, me and even the Angel Micheal u r talking about.
To prove this let's look at John 1 :3-4

John 1:3-4
Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. (4)
The Word gave life to everything that was created, and his life brought light to everyone.

So this shows that Ur Angel Micheal theory is bullshit....Only God can give life no Angel. Like I said Jesus gave life to Angel Micheal. As it is clearly written in verse 4 The Word( Son of God) gave life to everything created including angels

Remember 1cor 14:45 u quoted for me?

There Paul described Jesus as the Life-giver, shey u can see a correlation.

In addition, Jesus is the lamb of God who takes away our sins, and by dying on the cross, all who believe in his Divinity as our Lord and personal saviour would be saved. As, God, Jesus assures us of salvation, and for us Trinitarians who believe in him, we r saved from eternal damnation. That is the fundamental reason why Christ came.


Now are u satisfied with his achievements, which is to save those who believe in him from eternal damnation?


Now answer my questions, can Angel Micheal claim to be the Almighty?

freshboi88:



Firstly Jesus is the only Begotten Son of God. Begotten not made. Angel Micheal was created.

Secondly, Jesus in the Trinity is the Word of God, he was not organising Gods people, however, Everything was made through him including you, me and even the Angel Micheal u r talking about.
To prove this let's look at John 1 :3-4

John 1:3-4
Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. (4)
The Word gave life to everything that was created, and his life brought light to everyone.

So this shows that Ur Angel Micheal theory is bullshit....Only God can give life no Angel. Like I said Jesus gave life to Angel Micheal. As it is clearly written in verse 4 The Word( Son of God) gave life to everything created including angels

Remember 1cor 14:45 u quoted for me?

There Paul described Jesus as the Life-giver, shey u can see a correlation.

In addition, Jesus is the lamb of God who takes away our sins, and by dying on the cross, all who believe in his Divinity as our Lord and personal saviour would be saved. As, God, Jesus assures us of salvation, and for us Trinitarians who believe in him, we r saved from eternal damnation. That is the fundamental reason why Christ came.


Now are u satisfied with his achievements, which is to save those who believe in him from eternal damnation?


Now answer my questions, can Angel Micheal claim to be the Almighty?

You can't understand the Bible unless we teach you {Daniel 12:8-10} but if you're doubting, present the achievement of your TRINITY doctrines as i did with Jesus (Michael).

No wahala!

Adakintroy2:
Christians be careful about threads such as this that pitch you against one another in knowledge.

Timothy 1-11, warns against going into endless genonologies. Things the new age teachers do that lead to more disputes. They wish to be seen as teachers.

Jesus is part of the trinity". . Jesus is not part of the trinity".. Jesus is mechizedek ..no he us not.

Greek origin of word...rhema and all other needless pursuit that do not promotes chrsit.


Christ is an humble spirit he is not particular about praise or you exaltations. He himself said not all who call me lord lord will enter my kingdom bit those who do God will. (Demonstration of love)

Knowledge puffs up but love purifies.

These are the days if his spirit. Go out and manifest it. Love and giving.

Does your bible include where Jesus Christ argued with the pharisees who questioned him?
Does it also include where Paul argued in several of his missions to preach the gospel? He even got beaten up occasionally?

But clearly you must know better than they did.
Argument is inevitable as discussion go.

TATIME:


Jesus strictly warned us not to waste time with people who don't want to learn. Matthew 10:13-15
His instruction says "go in search of the lost sheep of the house of Israel" Matthew 10:6
We need not start wasting out previous time with an atheist in disguise. Someone who keeps saying God's word contradicts itself even adding that the Qur'an is better than the Bible has spoken in volumes!

Who are the lost sheep? Who did Jesus die for? unbelievers, believers or both? Atheist, Christian or both and more?

Irrespective, you don't turn explainable discussion to personal accusations or abuse even when in contrary view.

Adakintroy2:
Christians be careful about threads such as this that pitch you against one another in knowledge.

Timothy 1-11, warns against going into endless genonologies. Things the new age teachers do that lead to more disputes. They wish to be seen as teachers.

Jesus is part of the trinity". . Jesus is not part of the trinity".. Jesus is mechizedek ..no he us not.

Greek origin of word...rhema and all other needless pursuit that do not promotes chrsit.


Christ is an humble spirit he is not particular about praise or you exaltations. He himself said not all who call me lord lord will enter my kingdom bit those who do God will. (Demonstration of love)

Knowledge puffs up but love purifies.

These are the days if his spirit. Go out and manifest it. Love and giving.

Sir,
Does the scriptures teach that you overlook or embrace false or errorneous doctrine in the name of oneness?

Proper interpretation of God's word is the spirit words in itself and biblical correction is not hatred but love in itself to save from destruction of the flesh.

Do you know what happens to a verse of scriptures wrongly or falsely interpreted or taken out of its inspired context? It looses it divine inspiration hence it's divine interpretation and you are left with human assumptions or deception.

This is the reason Jesus and the NT authors wouldn't spare anyone found misplacing the scriptures especially when it is deliberate.

Myer:


Does your bible include where Jesus Christ argued with the pharisees who questioned him?
Does it also include where Paul argued in several of his missions to preach the gospel? He even got beaten up occasionally?

But clearly you must know better than they did.
Argument is inevitable as discussion go.

I did not say argument is not needed, I said be careful of needless disputes and am referring to all of you.

The summary of faith is love. And he who love has fulfilled all the commandments. Paul himself said even if I have the gift of understanding all miseries and all knowledge but I have not love am nothing.

Aside with the knowledge being profess here I don't see anyone of you agree with others. So be carefull. There is actually work out there.

There may be people out there who know not this Christ preparing there way for the kingdom whiLe many of you are stuck in knowledge.

hupernikao:


Sir,
Does the scriptures teach that you overlook or embrace false or errorneous doctrine in the name of oneness?

Proper interpretation of God's word is the spirit words in itself and biblical correction is not hatred but love in itself to save from destruction of the flesh.

Do you know what happens to a verse of scriptures wrongly or falsely interpreted or taken out of its inspired context? It looses it divine inspiration hence it's divine interpretation and you are left with human assumptions or deception.

This is the reason Jesus and the NT authors wouldn't spare anyone found misplacing the scriptures especially when it is deliberate.

How do you know what is false doctrine when every one here posses there own sense of truth and rightouseness. To the other man you are the false teacher.

Demonstration of love is all that is left in the faith. You will convince more with live than with great many words.

Maximus69:


You can't understand the Bible unless we teach you {Daniel 12:8-10} but if you're doubting, present the achievement of your TRINITY doctrines as i did with Jesus (Michael).

No wahala!

I have quoted the achievement of the trinity doctrine which is salvation through the second person in the trinity God the Son. That by believing in his Divinity and perfect sacrifice we receive our salvation.....so what other achievement is greater than this??............. I have answered u, what else do u want again


You want to teach me the Bible when u can't even defend your doctrine.

You said Jesus is not God but I have shown u where he said he is God in the bible that u want to teach me....so who is going to teach who?

Let me remind you incase you have forgotten. Jesus said this: You can confirm from Ur own Bible

Rev 1: 8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega—the beginning and the end,” says the Lord God. “I am the one who is, who always was, and who is still to come—the Almighty One.”

Are u aware what happened to Lucifer when he tried to exalt himself over the throne of God?...if u are not, he was cast down to earth.

So answer this 1 simple question

How can a created being claim to be the Almighty one ?

Maximus69:


You can't understand the Bible unless we teach you {Daniel 12:8-10} but if you're doubting, present the achievement of your TRINITY doctrines as i did with Jesus (Michael).

No wahala!

Sorry ehn, I know it hurts to just realize that all that u hve believed in is all a lie with just 1 Bible verse Rev 1:8. Go and ask your pastor in Ur kingdom hall why Jesus called himself Almighty. Let see what he has to say

I'm sorry I'm sure by quoting Rev 1:8, Ur tail is in between Ur legs and Ur feets are shaking. Kpele, take heart. When u hve learnt come back and answer my question. Why did Jesus refer to himself as the Almighty?

hupernikao:


Who are the lost sheep? Who did Jesus die for? unbelievers, believers or both? Atheist, Christian or both and more?

Irrespective, you don't turn explainable discussion to personal accusations or abuse even when in contrary view.

Read the Bible book of Psalms 23:1-6

The sheep is a flock of domestics that loves guidance, they are obedient, they trust the shepherd to lead them safely to a place where they can get fresh grass. They will not follow just anyone unless they're sure that he is a good shepherd that can lay down his life for them! John 10:11-14

So if you meditate on that you will know that there are unique kind of people we're searching for, they may be LOST in false religious beliefs or don't believe at all.

But their identifying mark is inquisitive to know the one and only true source of divine wisdom, they respond quickly when they meet someone whose presentation beats their thoughts! John 10:26-27

Whoever argues that there can never be a single source of divine wisdom is an ATHEIST, even if such a person claims to believe in God, Jesus or Muhammad we know that they're not part of the sheep of Israel because Israelites strongly believe (trust) in one single source of divine guidance.

So as long as you don't believe in one single line of thought that's guided by the supreme being (God), we are not to waste the next minute with you!

Thank you!

freshboi88:


I have quoted the achievement of the trinity doctrine which is salvation through the second person in the trinity God the Son. That by believing in his Divinity and perfect sacrifice we receive our salvation.....so what other achievement is greater than this??............. I have answered u, what else do u want again


You want to teach me the Bible when u can't even defend your doctrine.

You said Jesus is not God but I have shown u where he said he is God in the bible that u want to teach me....so who is going to teach who?

Let me remind you incase you have forgotten. Jesus said this: You can confirm from Ur own Bible

Rev 1: 8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega—the beginning and the end,” says the Lord God. “I am the one who is, who always was, and who is still to come—the Almighty One.”

Are u aware what happened to Lucifer when he tried to exalt himself over the throne of God?...if u are not, he was cast down to earth.

So answer this 1 simple question

How can a created being claim to be the Almighty one ?

I presented to you what everyone can see and feel now {Matthew 10:29-30} as a former Muslim who now have a peaceful global family throughout the earth simply because i became one of Jehovah's Witnesses, you are quoting the Bible to say you're going to heaven whereas your faith is not doing any visible work! James 2:18-26

Sorry Revelations 1:8 could have different meaning based on the religious background of the translators.

So compare the King James Version (KJV) with New Word Translation (NWT) and see that you've got no point!

What really matters is the fruitage of God's holy spirit or the vivid works of your faith, NOT how trinitarians translated your version of the Bible!

Maximus69:


Read the Bible book of Psalms 23:1-6

The sheep is a flock of domestics that loves guidance, they are obedient, they trust the shepherd to lead them safely to a place where they can get fresh grass. They will not follow just anyone unless they're sure that he is a good shepherd that can lay down his life for them! John 10:11-14

So if you meditate on that you will know that there are unique kind of people we're searching for, they may be LOST in false religious beliefs or don't believe at all.

But their identifying mark is inquisitive to know the one and only true source of divine wisdom, they respond quickly when they meet someone whose presentation beats their thoughts! John 10:26-27

Whoever argues that there can never be a single source of divine wisdom is an ATHEIST, even if such a person claims to believe in God, Jesus or Muhammad we know that they're not part of the sheep of Israel because Israelites strongly believe (trust) in one single source of divine guidance.

So as long as you don't believe in one single line of thought that's guided by the supreme being (God), we are not to waste the next minute with you!

Thank you!

Was Paul (Saul) before conversion a sheep or lost?

Adakintroy2:


How do you know what is false doctrine when every one here posses there own sense of truth and rightouseness. To the other man you are the false teacher.

Bro, sense of truth is not same as truth. Truth is truth, it has no sense.

The scriptures has a singular interpretation not many Sir.

The early church has same issues. It is not peculiar to today's believers. The difference is some do with good intentions because when you are asked to explain your doctrine and you discovered and shown how it doesn't go with the singular truth and no local explanation, then you withdraw and take the truth.

The issue is some do it with a bad intentions. And from Genesis to revelation, I can't find any scriptures that says we you honor or condole false teachings in the name of unity. False teaching in itself is disunity, it's a virus that tears the body. And must be removed immediately without fear.

Demonstration of love is all that is left in the faith. You will convince more with live than with great many words.

Left all in faith?
If the saints of old have left false teaching as demonstration of love, we won't have anything delivered to us today. Men protected the truth of the scriptures with their blood, their passion and their pursuit.

Or can you provide here Sir, scriptures an verse that allow us to leave and honor false doctrine in the face of claiming unity Sir.

Jesus, Peter, Paul, John, James, Jude, Hebrews writer all warned against false brethren and doctrine and ask us to deal with it immediately. And they all withstood it. Were they lacking in faith and love?

Do you overlook the truth and claim you love? Love is in being able to tell the truth to help the fellow even if it hurt him. Love is saving him from his own greater destruction and others except you can give me a scripture verse that says otherwise.

hupernikao:


Was Paul (Saul) before conversion a sheep or lost?

Read Galatians 1:13-15

Notice how Saul(Paul) was zealous for the God of Israel, but in the wrong group (Judaism) then meditate on how humble, hardworking and enthusiastic about Christ later!

Perhaps you can now answer your own question, was he a sheep or lost?

freshboi88:



I am not arguing Jwit Vs Other Christian denominations. I want us to put facts on the table and not argue blindly. Do not be in a hurry to make your point.

First thing first, Trinitarians do not say that God the Father doesn't exist. Of course! He does. But so does the Son and the Holy Spirit.

To counter your assertion. I assume you have an earthly father right? Of course! You do, u didn't just fall from the sky. Are there things your father's knows that you don't? . Is your father greater than you? Are u the same with your father?........

Is there anything that unites you and your father?
Are you equal with your father?

Now here's the clue to get u thinking.....for me your father must be greater than you right?....I mean if he delegates a task to u, u do it right out of respect and love. But when it comes to equality, I'll say u both are the same. How?

Your nature, your father isn't a higher human being than you. You both are humans. All human beings are equals but authority and role is what differentiates us. While some are presidents, others are cleaners and messangers...everyone has his role.

This is the Trinitarian teaching....one in nature. The Son of God is God United with the Father by the very fact that they share the same nature. However just like humans and angels authority differs.

So the fact that the Father has a higher authority doesn't take away the Divinity of Jesus. Just the same way that your father doesn't take away your humanity

See as your last sentence dey mumu your post.
Freshboi88
"The Father has higher authority"
Yet you dey quote Revelation 1:8 to claim Jesus Christ is the Almighty..
Almighty God dey get Papa ?

Revelation 1:5-6.

," 5and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and has released us from our sins by His blood, 6who has made us to be a kingdom, priests to His God and Father—to Him be the glory and power forever and ever! Amen.…"

Revelation 1:8 is a reference to Jehovah the Almighty God& Father of Jesus Christ.
Revelation 1:5-6 FACT.
The spiritual realm is stronger than the physical realm.. , do you agree?

Have you read Revelation 3:5,11,12&21?
Read , study and agree with Jesus Christ.
Then, Dump the Trinity for your Trashcan.
Shalom.

Maximus69:


I presented to you what everyone can see and feel now {Matthew 10:29-30} as a former Muslim who now have a peaceful global family throughout the earth simply because i became one of Jehovah's Witnesses, you are quoting the Bible to say you're going to heaven whereas your faith is not doing any visible work! James 2:18-26

Sorry Revelations 1:8 could have different meaning based on the religious background of the translators.

So compare the King James Version (KJV) with New Word Translation (NWT) and see that you've got no point!

What really matters is the fruitage of God's holy spirit or the vivid works of your faith, NOT how trinitarians translated your version of the Bible!

You have started using scriptures again even though in wrong context. I hope if you are questioned on this, you will be ready to provide answers and explanations.

hupernikao:


Bro, sense of truth is not same as truth. Truth is truth, it has no sense.

The scriptures has a singular interpretation not many Sir.

The early church has same issues. It is not peculiar to today's believers. The difference is some do with good intentions because when you are asked to explain your doctrine and you discovered and shown how it doesn't go with the singular truth and no local explanation, then you withdraw and take the truth.

The issue is some do it with a bad intentions. And from Genesis to revelation, I can't find any scriptures that says we you honor or condole false teachings in the name of unity. False teaching in itself is disunity, it's a virus that tears the body. And must be removed immediately without fear.



Left all in faith?
If the saints of old have left false teaching as demonstration of love, we won't have anything delivered to us today. Men protected the truth of the scriptures with their blood, their passion and their pursuit.

Or can you provide here Sir, scriptures an verse that allow us to leave and honor false doctrine in the face of claiming unity Sir.

Jesus, Peter, Paul, John, James, Jude, Hebrews writer all warned against false brethren and doctrine and ask us to deal with it immediately. And they all withstood it. Were they lacking in faith and love?

Do you overlook the truth and claim you love? Love is in being able to tell the truth to help the fellow even if it hurt him. Love is saving him from his own greater destruction and others except you can give me a scripture verse that says otherwise.

The bible have singular interpretations but we have multi denominations with multi doctrines all claiming to be the right one.

So now what is the truth? No long text. Just sumake it up in few senstences?