Amujale:


Dude, the Jews in the Christian Bible are fictitious people.

Anywhere you see the term used in European history, it often meant to refers different real tribe of people. i.e Germanic

You haven't said anything new. You're confused because we were all decieved by Christianity to believe the Jews of the bible were white. Cleanse your mind of those Eurocentric lies then we can talk.

It's a well known fact that the white Jews in the land of Israel today are fake, Ashkenazi from Germany and Russia.

Amujale:


Absolutely, isnt this part of the debate right here?

The Jacob of the Christian Bible is fictitious chatacter that never existed.

When you're ready to prove that with facts and historical documents then we can talk

Amujale:


Yes, but that has nothing to does with either Christianity or Islam.

Who's taking about Christianity or Islam? I'm not a Christian.

donnie:


Who's taking about Christianity or Islam? I'm not a Christian.

I'm talking about Christianity and Islam.

The point i was making is that Christianity and Islam are the worst ideologies ever to set foot onto the African continent.

Both these foreign ideologies was introduced to us by ways of slavery.

And as such, its counterintuitive to be adhering to their ideology.

Ení máa kú pàdé ení máa pá!

Sábárúmó dara pò mó Gàmbàrí, gb'ógun ti Fulani kò l'éjó nínú!

Black Jesus versus fictitious Jesus, keep the unfruitful arguments going!

Amujale:


I'm talking about Christianity and Islam.

The point i was making is that Christianity and Islam are the worst ideologies ever to set foot onto the African continent.

Both these foreign ideologies was introduced to us by ways of slavery.

And as such, its counterintuitive to be adhering to their ideology.

I am not for Christianity and I agree with the destruction it has brought. However that will not make me deny my origin or identity. Did your people come out of the ground? Did they not migrate from somewhere?

donnie:

Did your people come out of the ground? Did they not migrate from somewhere?

According to all the analytical, empirical and scientific evidence, humanity begins 'South of the Sahara', Africa.


It has been proven beyond doubt that human existed in the region of the world they call Africa for millions of years.


Civilisation moved up the Nile.


Our ancestors migrated from Africa in order to populate the other continents in want is popularly refered to as the 'Out of Africa' phenomenon.

Amujale:
He had melanated skin, brown curly hair and blue eyes, DNA tests suggest, supending a common assumption that Britain’s indigenous populations were all pale skinned with fair features.

The “Cheddar Man,” is Britain’s oldest complete skeleton, which was discovered in 1903 in Gough’s Cave near the village of Cheddar in Somerset, in southwest England. He lived about 10,000 years ago in the Mesolithic period, the middle part of the Stone Age.

Experts have now reconstructed his features, demonstrating that he was part of a population of ancient Western Europeans that, scientists have shown in recent years, had melanated skin.

Corresponding with modern day African historians that Africans are the first people to inhabit Europe thousands upon thousands of years ago.

Amujale:


According to all the analytical, empirical and scientific evidence, humanity begins 'South of the Sahara', Africa.


It has been proven beyond doubt that human existed in the region of the world they call Africa for millions of years.


Civilisation moved up the Nile.


Our ancestors migrated from Africa in order to populate the other continents in want is popularly refered to as the 'Out of Africa' phenomenon.

Nobody is dragging origin of humanity or civilization with you. I agree and even have proof that it all began in Africa.

But we're not talking here about the origin of man. Yakubi (Jacob) or Yisolele (Israel/Yasharel) is thousands or years after the origin of man. If early man migrated out of Africa why is it strange to believe that a people migrated down into sub-saharan Africa. And yes the Bantus met indigenous populations like the Nilotics and pigmies as they migrated to their current location.

The Bantu migration is the Israelite migration into sub-saharan Africa. And that's a fact of history that can be proven historically when you're ready to defend your stand against mine with proof.

If you ask your elders, they will tell you how they migrated to their current location if you are from sub-saharan Africa.

donnie:

If you ask your elders, they will tell you how they migrated to their current location if you are from sub-saharan Africa.

In terms of African history, i am representative of the Elders.

As in, all that is known, thaf is thought to be known has already been awarded to us by the very Elders to which you are refering to here.

donnie:


But we're not talking here about the origin of man. Yakubi (Jacob) or Israel (Yisolele/Yasharel) is thousands or years after the origin of man. If early man migrated out of Africa why is it strange to believe that a people migrated down into sub-saharan Africa. And yes the Bantus met indigenous populations like the Nilotics and pigmies as they migrated to their current location.

The Bantu migration is the Israelite migration into sub-saharan Africa. And that's a fact of history that can be proven historically when you're ready to defend your stand against mine with proof.

All that is based on the Roman version of Christianity.


Assuming your argument is based on the premise that they copied the Israelite story from African history, then yes, that would make sense.

But you ought to make that clear.

Trying to justify their false characters wont wash with me.


Was their a person known as the Biblical Jacob, same word?

Was their a people in human history known as the Israelites?

Was their a deity in African history kbown as Jehova?

It seems we are saying the same thing.

The thrust of my argument has always been that Christiamity is a fake Hellenist religion that exist as a result of the combination of fakery and falsehood.

And that they copied, plagiarised and sexed-up various older characters, concepts and stories from all around the world; especially Africa.

Is that what you are saying?

Amujale:


In terms of African history, i am representative of the Elders.

As in, all that is known, thaf is thought to be known has already been awarded to us by the very Elders to which you are refering to here.

Interesting. How come you don't seem to bring anything new. You just repeating the claims of those into kemetic science and conciousness who evidently hate the Most High YAH.

Amujale:


All that is based on the Roman version of Christianity.

YAHUAH is his name, and Bantus know that name.

Just goan sit down somewhere first. When you're ready to learn, you come back and humbly seek knowledge.

I'm done with you for now

donnie:


Just goan sit down somewhere first. When you're ready to learn, you come back and humbly seek knowledge.

I'm done with you for now

Bin all that Hellenist mumbojumbo and concentrate your focus on African history.

The African Gods are the only true and proper ones.

Amujale:


Assuming your argument is based on the premise that they copied the Israelite story from African history, then yes, that would make sense.

True Israelites are Africans. So they couldn't be "copying" an Afican story.

Amujale:


Was their a person known as the Biblical Jacob, same word?

The actual name is YAKUBI and that's a Bantu name. Even my people bear the name.

Amujale:

Was their a people in human history known as the Israelites?

ISRAEL is English. YISOLELE is the true name and that's Bantu. Even the Hebrew YASHAREL is actually Bantu.

Amujale:

Was their a deity in African history kbown as Jehova?

JEHOVAH is English.
Letter J is recent, not more than 500 years old.

The name is YAHUAH and that's also Bantu. Also called NYAHMBI or NZAMBI.

YAH or YAHUAH is the name of the Creator. Translated as LORD all over the English Bible.
Do your own study.

Bantus bear His name YAH. Even Igbos praise him unknowingly when they say 'keleYAH".

donnie:


The actual name is YAKUBI and that's a Bantu name. Even my people bear the name.



ISRAEL is English. YISOLELE is the true name and that's Bantu. Even the Hebrew YASHAREL is actually Bantu.



JEHOVAH is English.
Letter J is recent, not more than 500 years old.

The name is YAHUAH and that's also Bantu. Also called NYAHMBI or NZAMBI.

YAH or YAHUAH is the name of the Creator. Translated as LORD all over the English Bible.
Do your own study.

Bantus bear His name YAH. Even Igbos praise him unknowingly when they say 'keleYAH".

The point is for our people to disassociate themselves from the Christian Biblical narrative of anything.

The narratives are fake, false and counterintuitive.

Those are my arguments anything outsidr of that doesnt concern me at this particular point in time.

Once we can get passed the fact the narratives of the Christian Bible is false, that the African narratives of African history are the only true and proper ones, then we are good.

Theres no need to try and justify a narrative that is in itself counterintuitive.

As discussed earlier, African history goes back millions of years; those are the type of narratives that ought to be mined and overstood.

Leave the Abrahamic narratives for the propagators and peddlers of the Arabian fundamentalist and Eurocentric agents of chaos and concentrate on the already available secular history that our Ancestors worked tirelessly to save for all of us.

donnie:
Mathew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved

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So God is not going to intervene on thisone abi? no wonder our vainted healing pastors have all kept quite and locked up their tithe-boxes

LaEvilIMiss:
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So God is not going to intervene on thisone abi? no wonder our vainted healing pastors have all kept quite and locked up their tithe-boxes

He had already intervened, sent a MESSIAH with prior warning in the Prophecies of scripture. And He said,
1 John 4:4
Ye are of YAH, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

Amujale:



Leave the Abrahamic narratives for the propagators and peddlers of the Arabian fundamentalist and Eurocentric agents of chaos and concentrate on the already available secular history that our Ancestors worked tirelessly to save for all of us.

I cannot throw away my history simply because it was stolen or because it does not support African science or Idolatory.

What are your true African narratives? That we should all return to juju and voodoo? The same sins that brought the anger of YAH upon us?

I have the Spirit of truth to know and recognise truth. It's not a narrative. It is the Word of power. African history goes back millions or years but the word of YAH preexisted the beginning. It is eternal.

YISOLELE (Israel) is called to be Holy unto YAH, seperate from other nations. So you can join other nations with their Idolatory, I will not join you.

donnie:


You haven't said anything new. You're confused because we were all decieved by Christianity to believe the Jews of the bible were white. Cleanse your mind of those Eurocentric lies then we can talk.

It's a well known fact that the white Jews in the land of Israel today are fake, Ashkenazi from Germany and Russia.

Everybody knows this.

donnie:


I cannot throw away my history simply because it was stolen or because it does not support African science or Idolatory.

What are your true African narratives? That we should all return to juju and voodoo? The same sins that brought the anger of YAH upon us?

I have the Spirit of truth to know and recognise truth. It's not a narrative. It is the Word of power. African history goes back millions or years but the word of YAH preexisted the beginning. It is eternal.

YISOLELE (Israel) is called to be Holy unto YAH, seperate from other nations. So you can join other nations with their Idolatory, I will not join you.

I'm Igbo I come from a community in which you mention the name people would just tell you Ah juju people though it has reduced presently because of church. But from my investigation my people are great witchcraft doctors especially the men their juju those days are top notch. Telepathy bilocation we're all simple stuff. Some Children from such lineage still are native doctors presently.

My mother's side you don't hear stories of witch doctors or juju men. They are more of a close community that look after each other.

My take is that even in igbo land. There is a sharp difference in culture and behavior.

Are you sure yah is angry with us or we are supposed to hold onto what we know which is juju.

There are tales in my Villa where those that sold idols to the whites we're struck dead or ran mad. What is yah part in all of this

Amujale:


The point is for our people to disassociate themselves from the Christian Biblical narrative of anything.

The narratives are fake, false and counterintuitive.

Those are my arguments anything outsidr of that doesnt concern me at this particular point in time.

Once we can get passed the fact the narratives of the Christian Bible is false, that the African narratives of African history are the only true and proper ones, then we are good.

Theres no need to try and justify a narrative that is in itself counterintuitive.

As discussed earlier, African history goes back millions of years; those are the type of narratives that ought to be mined and overstood.

Leave the Abrahamic narratives for the propagators and peddlers of the Arabian fundamentalist and Eurocentric agents of chaos and concentrate on the already available secular history that our Ancestors worked tirelessly to save for all of us.

But the name of Jesus Christ has destroyed many shrines in Africa. you can't really say Christian religion is fake

donnie:


He had already intervened, sent a MESSIAH with prior warning in the Prophecies of scripture. And He said,
1 John 4:4
Ye are of YAH, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

It means the trials and tribulations is what awaits christians now - when is rapture or has it occurred. already

LaEvilIMiss:


It means the trials and tribulations is what awaits christians now - when is rapture or has it occurred. already

Many Christians have gotten their timing wrong because they calculate based on the creation of the fake state of Israel. They do not believe that the Judgement of the nations has begun. They hope to escape every tribulation via rapture.

Some Israelites like myself say that the tribulation has been on ever since. YISOLELE (Israel/Yasharel) has suffered all kinds of affliction: slavery, abduction, colonialism, beheading, burning to the stake etc.. Now we await our deliverer. The catching up (rapture) of His people will occur when he returns. And we will reign with him right here on earth after overthrowing all rule, kingdoms and authority.

No one knows everything. But whichever side you are agree with, two things you must know and settle in your hearts are:
1. Who the true people of the book are. This is important for all who will not be lost and who will be saved in these last days.
2. Be prepared to endure unto the end. Unfortunately, Christians are told that they will escape all the tribulation. So it's a milk and honey gospel from beginning to end. What if that's not the case, can you imagine the despair and disappointment?

Acts 14:22 strengthening the disciples and encouraging them to remain true to the faith. "We must go through many hardships to enter the kingdom of God," they said.

The good thing about the times we are living in is that things happen so fast, it won't be long before we see the truth unfold before our eyes.

Not for The Faithfuls. And The Righteous.

It's Chinese'Regimentation.

orunto27:
Not for The Faithfuls. And The Righteous.

Watch and pray and be ready to endure till the end

IMO01:


But the name of Jesus Christ has destroyed many shrines in Africa. you can't really say Christian religion is fake

Those shrines are in all reality sacred sites from where they copied and plagiarised their fake religion.

The Arabian fundamentalist and Eurocentric warmongers came to Africa, found about our divine principles and called them God.

What you state above is part of the totality in the horific attrocities against humanity that they partook; others include hunting our sacred text and literature in an attempt to burn, desecrate and or destroy all that they could find.

https://www.nairaland.com/5795996/african-origin-civilisation

donnie:


I cannot throw away my history simply because it was stolen or because it does not support African science or Idolatory.

Firstly, idolatry is unAfrican.

The Arabian fundamentalist and Eurocentric warmongers came to our continent with their idolatry and attempt to bastardise history by slanderously naming our divine principles as some sort of Idolatry.

What really happened according to their own records is that they labelled any concept that didnt adhere to their evil and twisted ideology as Idolatry.

In other words, Christianity and Islam originate out of Idolatry whilst those of the African psyche are divine.

It is completely and utterly outrageous for foreigners to approach our sacred and divine principles from an evil and twisted mindset and attempt to label them anything other than divine.

Given that history records exactly what they did, they met our parents living glouriously and fantastically under all the universal and divine principles under our Sun and they sought to destroy them and swap them with fakery and falsehood that is being peddled today.

Secondly, the terms such as 'Idolatry', 'unclean', 'gentile', 'kaferi', non-believer are all Abrahamic religious concepts that are privy to their evil and twisted ideologies.

Furthermore, how can any one of these fake religions have the nerve to label our divine concepts with nonsensical terms such as Idolatry when in all reality their fake religion peddles exactly that.

For instance, the image of the Jesus character originates from a fake god of Ptolemaic Egypt.

The fake god they named Serapis.

It doesnt make any sense whatsover for any one of the Abrahamic religions to then attempt to associate our divine principles with such slanderous terminology.

https://www.nairaland.com/5795996/african-origin-civilisation

Amujale:


Firstly, idolatry is unAfrican.

The Arabian fundamentalist and Eurocentric warmongers came to our continent with their idolatry and attempt to bastardise history by slanderously naming our divine principles as some sort of Idolatry.

What really happened according to their own records is that they labelled any concept that didnt adhere to their evil and twisted ideology as Idolatry.

In other words, Christianity and Islam originate out of Idolatry whilst those of the African psyche are divine.

It is completely and utterly outrageous for foreigners to approach our sacred and divine principles from an evil and twisted mindset and attempt to label them anything other than divine.

Given that history records exactly what they did, they met our parents living glouriously and fantastically under all the universal and divine principles under our Sun and they sought to destroy them and swap them with fakery and falsehood that is being peddled today.

Secondly, the terms such as 'Idolatry', 'unclean', 'gentile', 'kaferi', non-believer are all Abrahamic religious concepts that are privy to their evil and twisted ideologies.

Furthermore, how can any one of these fake religions have the nerve to label our divine concepts with nonsensical terms such as Idolatry when in all reality their fake religion peddles exactly that.

For instance, the image of the Jesus character originates from a fake god of Ptolemaic Egypt.

The fake god they named Serapis.

It doesnt make any sense whatsover for any one of the Abrahamic religions to then attempt to associate our divine principles with such slanderous terminology.

I laugh because you probably think the world began in Egypt. Have you heard of the sumemrians? I do not doubt the greatness of Ancient Egypt. I am very much aware that black Africans in Egypt, shaped this present civilization. However, Egyptians were also taught much of their knowledge by those who had knowledge from earlier civilizations. Even in West Africa, there is evidence of a much earlier civilization than Egypt. So I don't know what all this your acrobatics is about.

The black man Abraham whom you seem to have a quarel with was a very wise man and was taught the laws of YAH by his black ancestors Noah and Shem who had wisdom from much more ancient civilizations. He also took this wisdom with him into Egypt where he spent some years.

The laws of YAH are eternal: Thou shall not make to yourself any graven image. Thou shall not bow down to them or worship them.

And yes, even Christianity and Islam practice Idolatory. They worship or bow to the sun, the moon, the fake white image of Jesus (Serapis), Mary, saints, their pastors etc. Christians merely substituted African Idolatory for a European version.

Everyone must repent or be punished. You don't have to bow down to idols, the work of men's hands, to prove your Africanism.

NO CHRISTIANS IN THE BIBLE? ACTS 11 V 26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that for a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught many people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.


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donnie:


The Bible is not a Christian book. There is no Christian in the bible. It's a book about Israelites. And the only other people you'll find are friends and enemies of Israelites.

So when I read the Bible, I'm reading my black ancestors' history and prophecies.

IMO01:


I'm Igbo I come from a community in which you mention the name people would just tell you Ah juju people though it has reduced presently because of church. But from my investigation my people are great witchcraft doctors especially the men their juju those days are top notch. Telepathy bilocation we're all simple stuff. Some Children from such lineage still are native doctors presently.

My mother's side you don't hear stories of witch doctors or juju men. They are more of a close community that look after each other.

My take is that even in igbo land. There is a sharp difference in culture and behavior.

Are you sure yah is angry with us or we are supposed to hold onto what we know which is juju.

There are tales in my Villa where those that sold idols to the whites we're struck dead or ran mad. What is yah part in all of this

Thank you for your comment.

The sorjourn of Israelites among the nations, including Kamata (Egypt) before arriving where we currently are is the reason for the Idolatory. They picked up these cultures from other nations and even taught others as they migrated.

Those things you are amazed about like African science, telepathy etc. were done by our ISRAELITE ancestor in the name of YAH and without voodoo or consulting of spirits of the dead. Do you remember Moshe (Moses), EliYAH (Elijah), YISAYAH (Jesus), even Simon Toko from Congo did all those and even more. They are all Bantus (Israelites) who demonstrated power without worshipping idols. It's in our DNA!

Fear YAH and keep his commandments. That's all.