hupernikao:


Bro, sense of truth is not same as truth. Truth is truth, it has no sense.

The scriptures has a singular interpretation not many Sir.

The early church has same issues. It is not peculiar to today's believers. The difference is some do with good intentions because when you are asked to explain your doctrine and you discovered and shown how it doesn't go with the singular truth and no local explanation, then you withdraw and take the truth.

The issue is some do it with a bad intentions. And from Genesis to revelation, I can't find any scriptures that says we you honor or condole false teachings in the name of unity. False teaching in itself is disunity, it's a virus that tears the body. And must be removed immediately without fear.



Left all in faith?
If the saints of old have left false teaching as demonstration of love, we won't have anything delivered to us today. Men protected the truth of the scriptures with their blood, their passion and their pursuit.

Or can you provide here Sir, scriptures an verse that allow us to leave and honor false doctrine in the face of claiming unity Sir.

Jesus, Peter, Paul, John, James, Jude, Hebrews writer all warned against false brethren and doctrine and ask us to deal with it immediately. And they all withstood it. Were they lacking in faith and love?

Do you overlook the truth and claim you love? Love is in being able to tell the truth to help the fellow even if it hurt him. Love is saving him from his own greater destruction and others except you can give me a scripture verse that says otherwise.

The bible have singular interpretations but we have multi denominations with multi doctrines all claiming to be the right one.

So now what is the truth? No long text. Just sum it up in few senstences?

freshboi88:




Does the Bible contradict itself. No. If u make a point, u must prove from scripture and what scripture u quote must be consistent throughout the Bible. If it does not, you do not understand what you have read.

Revelation 1:17-18: “[17] And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

This is the very word of Jesus Christ. Jusxtapose this with the words of Jehovah

Isaiah 44:6: “Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.”

Why would Jehovah and Jesus describe themselves as the first and the last?

Who is the actual first and last?

Who is stealing whose title?

Be reminded that even in Rev 22:13.. Jesus says I am the Alpha and the Omega. Why would he say that?.....Isn't that Jehovah's title ?

Remember your statement:
"The Father has higher authority....." It is on record freshboi88 said so...
So, Why contradict yourself ?

My Questions for you:

According to Jesus,Matthew 28:18 ,All authority and power was given to Jesus by whom?

According to Jesus Christ,John 5:26-27, life and authority was given to Jesus by Whom?

Revelation 3:21, in heaven whose throne does Jesus sit on?

freshboi88:


There is no where in the Bible that says Christ was created. There are several parts of scripture that implies he wasnt

Colossians 1:15 King James Version (KJV)
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:"

Revelation 3:14" Jesus says he is the beginning of the creation by God"

Jesus Christ was created by his Father, simple and straightforward sentence.
No maggi and pepper to make it taste better to Trinitarians.
"In the beginning" doesn't mean "the Ruler" oh Artful FORGERS. Matt19:4. John 1:1. Matt24:8. Prov8:22.

Freshboi88 go bring maggi and pepper come here...

Adakintroy2:


The bible have singular interpretations but we have multi denominations with multi doctrines all claiming to be the right one.

So now what is the truth? No long text. Just sum it up in few senstences?

Ask am if he believes the words of Jesus Christ in Revelation 3:5,11,12 and 21?

Janosky:



Colossians 1:15 King James Version (KJV)
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:"

Revelation 3:14" Jesus says he is the beginning of the creation by God"

Jesus Christ was created by his Father, simple and straightforward sentence.
No maggi and pepper to make it taste better to Trinitarians.
"In the beginning" doesn't mean "the Ruler" oh Artful FORGERS. Matt19:4. John 1:1. Matt24:8. Prov8:22.

Freshboi88 go bring maggi and pepper come here...

You guys just keep quoting scripture that you done have the slightest understanding about. You have quoted Rev 3:14 wrongly.

Now let's take a look at another translation:

Berean Study Bible
To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Originator of God’s creation.

International Standard Version
"To the messenger of the church in Laodicea, write: 'The Amen, the witness who is faithful and true, the originator of God's creation, says this:

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
“And to The Messenger of the assembly of the Laidiqians write: “Thus says The Eternal, The Trustworthy and True Witness, and The Source of The Creation of God:”


Now do u get the picture?.. You have to look at the whole context to understand, u have just shown ur lack of understanding of scripture

Beginning, Origin, Source...all synonyms can can be used interchangeably.

Now to buttress my point let's look at John 1:3 again

John 1:3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Doesn't this mean that Jesus would need Jesus to be created?....pls sincerely answer this

Janosky:



Colossians 1:15 King James Version (KJV)
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:"

Revelation 3:14" Jesus says he is the beginning of the creation by God"

Jesus Christ was created by his Father, simple and straightforward sentence.
No maggi and pepper to make it taste better to Trinitarians.
"In the beginning" doesn't mean "the Ruler" oh Artful FORGERS. Matt19:4. John 1:1. Matt24:8. Prov8:22.

Freshboi88 go bring maggi and pepper come here...

Col 1:15, quoted wrongly again...u guys have a warped understanding of scripture. Why is Jesus called the firstborn of all creature.

Now go-to col 1:18 to get a clearer picture. Always read the scripture very well don't pick one verse and think you know it all

Col 1:18: And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.

So as u can c , reading further down makes u understand better. He is the firstborn because he was the first to defeat death and rise from the grave to eternal life. And by doing so open the way for others.

Romans 8:29 For God knew his people in advance, and he chose them to become like his Son, so that his Son would be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters

So as u can see been the firstborn has nothing to do with Jesus been created, it has everything to do with our salvation. Cos he was the first to rise from the dead

Janosky:


Remember your statement:
"The Father has higher authority....." It is on record freshboi88 said so...
So, Why contradict yourself ?

My Questions for you:

According to Jesus,Matthew 28:18 ,All authority and power was given to Jesus by whom?

According to Jesus Christ,John 5:26-27, life and authority was given to Jesus by Whom?

Revelation 3:21, in heaven whose throne does Jesus sit on?

To answer your questions...*God The Father*

But

I dont see any contradiction here.

Infact u make me correct every single time

Let me explain in John 14:28 You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.

Here Jesus clearly shows that The Father has a higher authority than him but in John 10:30 I and the Father are one, he claims equality

My earthly father can give me power over his possession.I now ask you is my father greater than me?.....Yes by authority. No by nature because we are both Humans.

So addressing God giving him life in himself . That means It is in Him as it is in God. He has the control of it, and can exercise it as he wills.

The prophets and apostles are never represented as having such power in themselves. They were dependent; they performed miracles in the name of God and of Jesus Christ Acts 3:6; Acts 4:30; Acts 16:18;

but Jesus did it by his own name, authority, and power. He had but to speak, and it was done, Mark 5:41; Luke 7:14; John 11:43.

This wonderful commission he bore from God to raise up the dead as he pleased; to convert sinners when and where he chose; and finally to raise up all the dead, and pronounce on them an eternal doom according to the deeds done in the body. None could do this but he who had the power of creation - equal in omnipotence to the Father, and the power of searching all hearts - equal in omniscience to God

Janosky:

See as your last sentence dey mumu your post.
Freshboi88
"The Father has higher authority"
Yet you dey quote Revelation 1:8 to claim Jesus Christ is the Almighty..
Almighty God dey get Papa ?

Revelation 1:5-6.

," 5and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and has released us from our sins by His blood, 6who has made us to be a kingdom, priests to His God and Father—to Him be the glory and power forever and ever! Amen.…"

Revelation 1:8 is a reference to Jehovah the Almighty God& Father of Jesus Christ.
Revelation 1:5-6 FACT.
The spiritual realm is stronger than the physical realm.. , do you agree?

Have you read Revelation 3:5,11,12&21?
Read , study and agree with Jesus Christ.
Then, Dump the Trinity for your Trashcan.
Shalom.

Hahaha...This guy is trying to be clever by half. How is Rev 1:8 a ref to the Father?....Why did u stop at 6?.….why didn't u quote verse 7.

Here's what verse 7 says

◄ Revelation 1:7 ►
Behold, he comes with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen

Who comes with clouds and who was pierced, the Father or The Son?... The preceding verse was referring to Jesus and not The Father.


I have uncovered your lies. For you to ask me if Almighty God get papa shows you are still thinking in the realm of the physical, Ur reason is still based on your human knowledge and reasoning. You forget that God says as the heaven is far from the earth so are his ways far from ours. It is only when you understand this that u will stop applying human knowledge to God.

You have been asking questions n I have been answering. Pls answer this questions

Rev 22:13
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

Why did Jesus use these titles for himself, same one Jehovah used in the book of Isaiah..

Secondly in

John 1:3 New International Version
Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

If nothing was created without him, how was he then created?

Does it not mean that he would need himself to created himself?

If u can answer these questions then I'll accept tht the trinity is wrong

hupernikao:


You have started using scriptures again even though in wrong context. I hope if you are questioned on this, you will be ready to provide answers and explanations.

The problem with you people is misdirected zeal! Roman 10:2-3

How can you say someone is using scriptures in wrong context, yet it's only his application that's working out what is benefitial? Matthew 7:16-18

Why can't you prove your interpretation as the right one by applying it so as to make it work out what is benefitial in order for everyone to see? Matthew 5:14-16 compare to James 2:18-26

You now sound stupid when you say "if you're questioned"

Come on, what is the essence of carrying the Bible up and down when everything you taught people to apply in it brings no benefits in the midst of those you're teaching? 2Timothy 3:7

For your information, if only the gathering of Jehovah's Witnesses bears the FRUIT of God's holy spirit {Galatians 5:22-23} yet you're arguing against them, know today that you're fighting a lost battle, but the fearful thing is you're actually fighting against God himself! Matthew 12:31-32

When Jesus said sin against God's holy spirit will not be forgiven, go and think over it very well because God doesn't want any to perish but for all to come and repent {2Peter 3:9}, so it's because after you've witnessed the fruitage of God's holy spirit with your own eyes in a group yet you're opposing such a group, there is no other way you can be redeemed!

freshboi88:




Hahaha...This guy is trying to be clever by half. How is Rev 1:8 a ref to the Father?....Why did u stop at 6?.….why didn't u quote verse 7.

Here's what verse 7 says

◄ Revelation 1:7 ►
Behold, he comes with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen

Who comes with clouds and who was pierced, the Father or The Son?... The preceding verse was referring to Jesus and not The Father.


I have uncovered your lies. For you to ask me if Almighty God get papa shows you are still thinking in the realm of the physical, Ur reason is still based on your human knowledge and reasoning. You forget that God says as the heaven is far from the earth so are his ways far from ours. It is only when you understand this that u will stop applying human knowledge to God.

You have been asking questions n I have been answering. Pls answer this questions

Rev 22:13
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

Why did Jesus use these titles for himself, same one Jehovah used in the book of Isaiah..

Secondly in

John 1:3 New International Version
Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

If nothing was created without him, how was he then created?

Does it not mean that he would need himself to created himself?

If u can answer these questions then I'll accept tht the trinity is wrong

All your questions amounts to nothing if trinity is not working out anything of benefits in the midst of trinitarians!

TATIME:


All your questions amounts to nothing if trinity is not working out anything of benefits in the midst of trinitarians!

I've told him, if he wants to win arguments he should go and contend with the atheists. Those ones love winning arguments but none of them can point to the benefit of atheism as majority of those who love the concept are either bestialists, homosexuals, lesbians, adulterers, fornicators, prideful, disobedient to parents, disloyal, not open to any agreement, puffed up and many other hurtful lusts, except just a few of them and this few are just striving to contend with religion regarding morals!

Let him go and win arguments with those ones, but in Christianity, what matters is FAITH that's working out what all eyes can see! James 2:18-26 compare to Matthew 5:14-16

*.

freshboi88:



You guys just keep quoting scripture that you done have the slightest understanding about. You have quoted Rev 3:14 wrongly.

Now let's take a look at another translation:

Berean Study Bible
To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Originator of God’s creation.

International Standard Version
"To the messenger of the church in Laodicea, write: 'The Amen, the witness who is faithful and true, the originator of God's creation, says this:

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
“And to The Messenger of the assembly of the Laidiqians write: “Thus says The Eternal, The Trustworthy and True Witness, and The Source of The Creation of God:”


Now do u get the picture?.. You have to look at the whole context to understand, u have just shown ur lack of understanding of scripture

Beginning, Origin, Source...all synonyms can can be used interchangeably.

Now to buttress my point let's look at John 1:3 again

John 1:3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Doesn't this mean that Jesus would need Jesus to be created?....pls sincerely answer this

Bros, don't deceive yourself..

Mark 13:19 and Revelation 3:14 says "the beginning of the creation"
Artful FORGERS, Why una no put SOURCE , "Originator in Mark 13:19?

Put the "Source" , Originator" to replace " the beginning" @Mark 13:19. John 1:1. Matt24:8. Proverbs 8:22. Matt19:4.

Greek Arkhe = beginning...
That is the meaning ("Beginning" whenever the word is used with reference to Creation..
At Revelation 3:14, Greek Arkhe= "beginning" of the creation of God". Mark13:19.


Artful FORGERS supporting FRAUD.

freshboi88:

1)
To answer your questions...*God The Father*

But

I dont see any contradiction here.

Infact u make me correct every single time

Let me explain in John 14:28 You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.

2)
Here Jesus clearly shows that The Father has a higher authority than him but in John 10:30 I and the Father are one, he claims equality

My earthly father can give me power over his possession.I now ask you is my father greater than me?.....Yes by authority. No by nature because we are both Humans.

1)
Bros no deceive yourself....
Rev 1:5-6. Rev 3:3,11,12 in the spiritual realm,
Who is the God and Father of Jesus Christ?
You quoted John 14:28 "the Father greater than Jesus in the physical realm.
You answered "God the Father".
The Father is greater than Jesus in the spiritual realm where Jesus is living now.

Bros,Receive sense.


2)
John 10:30 who dey deceive you that "Father and I are one " means equality?

Matt 19:5-6 Man and wife are one.

1 Cor 11:3
" I want you to know that God is the head of Christ , Christ is the head of man.
In turn,man is the head of Woman"

In the physical and the spiritual realm,in your own Bible, Jesus Christ says he is the son of his own God and Father.
There is no equality. John 14:28.1Cor 11:3. Rev3:5,11,12.

Bros, RECEIVE SENSE !

freshboi88:




Hahaha...This guy is trying to be clever by half. How is Rev 1:8 a ref to the Father?....Why did u stop at 6?.….why didn't u quote verse 7.

Here's what verse 7 says

◄ Revelation 1:7 ►
Behold, he comes with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen

Who comes with clouds and who was pierced, the Father or The Son?... The preceding verse was referring to Jesus and not The Father.


I have uncovered your lies. For you to ask me if Almighty God get papa shows you are still thinking in the realm of the physical, Ur reason is still based on your human knowledge and reasoning. You forget that God says as the heaven is far from the earth so are his ways far from ours. It is only when you understand this that u will stop applying human knowledge to God.

Bros, no dey deceive yourself....

Have you forgotten your quote of John 14:28?
Have you forgotten 1Cor11:3?
Do you even believe in it?

Have you forgotten your answer to the questions on Rev 1:5-6. Rev3:5,11,12 &21?

Rev1:1 God Almighty (Owner of the Message) gave Jesus the Revelation.
Jesus Christ is his servant. Rev3:12.


Nothing amiss, if God's Revelation says "I am coming", Na Him message he gave Jesus His son ,to show us.
Your Messenger's message is your own Message. (No reasonable person will say that you and your Messenger share equality).
Oga Na Master.

Revelation 22:13, " I am Alpha and Omega applies strictly to God Almighty. NOT to Jesus Christ.

freshboi88:


Col 1:15, quoted wrongly again...u guys have a warped understanding of scripture. Why is Jesus called the firstborn of all creature.

Now go-to col 1:18 to get a clearer picture. Always read the scripture very well don't pick one verse and think you know it all

Col 1:18: And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.

So as u can c , reading further down makes u understand better. He is the firstborn because he was the first to defeat death and rise from the grave to eternal life. And by doing so open the way for others.

Romans 8:29 For God knew his people in advance, and he chose them to become like his Son, so that his Son would be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters

So as u can see been the firstborn has nothing to do with Jesus been created, it has everything to do with our salvation. Cos he was the first to rise from the dead

Col 1:15 Jesus "the firstborn of every creature"
= "The firstborn of every living being." (Man , angels, animals).

Have you ever read in your Bible that angels were dead ?

Are the dead living creatures ?

Mark 13:19 and Revelation 3:14 uses the same expression : "the beginning of the creation".


Genesis 49:3
"Reuben, you are my firstborn; My might and the beginning of my strength, Preeminent in dignity and preeminent in power. Deuteronomy 21:17.
("The beginning of my Strength" = Reuben , the Beginning of his Father's procreation Strength.
NOT Reuben "Originator... , NOT Reuben "the Source..." Your Trinity claim in Rev 3:14 faulty.)

Bros, no deceive yourself.
The firstborn of every creature (living beings) is not a reference to the dead. No correlation.


Col 1:18 Jesus Christ is "the first son of God that his Father raised up from death and can NEVER taste death again. And Jesus received authority to raise the dead John 5:26-29.
.

.


Does your brain register the fact that Romans 8:29 you quoted, God calls Jesus Christ His own Son?

Janosky:

Bros, no dey deceive yourself....

Have you forgotten your quote of John 14:28?
Have you forgotten 1Cor11:3?
Do you even believe in it?

Have you forgotten your answer to the questions on Rev 1:5-6. Rev3:5,11,12 &21?

Rev1:1 God Almighty (Owner of the Message) gave Jesus the Revelation.
Jesus Christ is his servant. Rev3:12.

Nothing amiss, if God's Revelation says "I am coming", Na Him message he gave Jesus His son ,to show us.

Revelation 22:13, " I am Alpha and Omega applies strictly to God Almighty. NOT to Jesus Christ.

I have read your answers u tried to make sense sha

So The First and Last strictly applies to God almighty alone ...so who is been referred to in Rev 2:8 ? Before you answer analyze very well about the bolded part.

I have helped you quote

New International Version
Rev 2:8 "To the angel of the church in Smyrna write: These are the words of him who is the First and the Last, who died and came to life again.

Janosky:


1)
Bros no deceive yourself....
Rev 1:5-6. Rev 3:3,11,12 in the spiritual realm,
Who is the God and Father of Jesus Christ?
You quoted John 14:28 "the Father greater than Jesus in the physical realm.
You answered "God the Father".
The Father is greater than Jesus in the spiritual realm where Jesus is living now.

Bros,Receive sense.


2)
John 10:30 who dey deceive you that "Father and I are one " means equality?

Matt 19:5-6 Man and wife are one.

1 Cor 11:3
" I want you to know that God is the head of Christ , Christ is the head of man.
In turn,man is the head of Woman"

In the physical and the spiritual realm,in your own Bible, Jesus Christ says he is the son of his own God and Father.
There is no equality. John 14:28.1Cor 11:3. Rev3:5,11,12.

Bros, RECEIVE SENSE !

To win argument no by to insult person o. For the very fact say u dey insult me show say, u dey see the truth but u no one gree....Ur mind dey tell u say no gree, no gree....I understand..lol


I no disagree say The Father no get more authority than the Son. Thank God say u quote Matt 19....So going by your theory a man and his wife are not equal?........

Janosky:


Bros, don't deceive yourself..

Mark 13:19 and Revelation 3:14 says "the beginning of the creation"
Artful FORGERS, Why una no put SOURCE , "Originator in Mark 13:19?

Put the "Source" , Originator" to replace " the beginning" @Mark 13:19. John 1:1. Matt24:8. Proverbs 8:22. Matt19:4.

Greek Arkhe = beginning...
That is the meaning ("Beginning" whenever the word is used with reference to Creation..
At Revelation 3:14, Greek Arkhe= "beginning" of the creation of God". Mark13:19.


Artful FORGERS supporting FRAUD.

I have noticed that you have failed to answer one of my question. Please provide an answer to it.

I have told you that begining is a synonym for originator, which I provided other verses to back up my claim....... Which is 1 cor 15:45

1cor 14:45 New International Version
So it is written: "The first man Adam became a living being"; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.

So it clearly says that Jesus is the a lifegiving spirit. In other words, the source, beginning, originator of life. But who is he giiving life to?...Of course God's creatures.

If u say the beginning refers to the creation of Jesus, which I have disproved and provided another verse that proves that I am right, provide urs


Finally answer my question. If Jesus was created and John 1:3 says nothing God made was created without Jesus. So didn't if nothing was created without Jesus, how did God create Jesus?

Doesn't it mean God would have used a Jesus to create Jesus

TATIME:


All your questions amounts to nothing if trinity is not working out anything of benefits in the midst of trinitarians!

So who says it's not working any benefits in the life of Trinitarians?....You?

Janosky:


Col 1:15 Jesus "the firstborn of every creature"
= "The firstborn of every living being." (Man , angels, animals).

Have you ever read in your Bible that angels were dead ?

Are the dead living creatures ?

Mark 13:19 and Revelation 3:14 uses the same expression : "the beginning of the creation".


Genesis 49:3
"Reuben, you are my firstborn; My might and the beginning of my strength, Preeminent in dignity and preeminent in power. Deuteronomy 21:17.
("The beginning of my Strength" = Reuben , the Beginning of his Father's procreation Strength.
NOT Reuben "Originator... , NOT Reuben "the Source..." Your Trinity claim in Rev 3:14 faulty.)

Bros, no deceive yourself.
The firstborn of every creature (living beings) is not a reference to the dead. No correlation.


Col 1:18 Jesus Christ is "the first son of God that his Father raised up from death and can NEVER taste death again. And Jesus received authority to raise the dead John 5:26-29.





Does your brain register the fact that Romans 8:29 you quoted, God calls Jesus Christ His own Son?

It's awful comparing Reuben with Jesus..Please dnt ever try that again.


Who says Jesus is not the Son of God. So I ask u if John 1:3 says nothing was created without Jesus.....Do u know the meaning of Nothing. If Jesus was created. It means Created Jesus needed a Jesus to be created..... Please respond to this

If you are a child of God and you are guided by God's Spirit, you would not be insultive u would make ur points in love is God is love

So respond to question and disprove this:

Who says Jesus is the Son of God. So I ask u if John 1:3 says nothing was created without Jesus.....Do u know the meaning of Nothing. If Jesus was created. It means Created Jesus needed a Jesus to be created..... Please respond to this

freshboi88:


I have read your answers u tried to make sense sha

So The First and Last strictly applies to God almighty alone ...so who is been referred to in Rev 2:8 ? Before you answer analyze very well about the bolded part.

I have helped you quote

New International Version
Rev 2:8 "To the angel of the church in Smyrna write: These are the words of him who is the First and the Last, who died and came to life again".

There are many persons speaking in the Bible book of Revelations!
©Jehovah the Almighty God.
©Jesus the son of God.
©The angel sent to the congregations.
©The 144,000.
©The 24 elders.
©Apostle John himself.
But if the reader doesn't have God's holy spirit, he can't grasp whose voice is this or that. Daniel 12:10
The only way to identify those who understand this sacred secrets as in those who can tell you whose statement you're reading, God's word said "they will perform well in all that is expected of God's people" Daniel 12:3 compare to Matthew 5:14-16; 7:15-20

freshboi88:


So who says it's not working any benefits in the life midst of Trinitarians?....You?

This is not about blind arguments my guy, so next when you're discussing with one of Jehovah's Witnesses, be careful to note each word we use!

There is no group on this planet where you will not find a person whose life will look as if he's benefiting in what he's into!
Buddhists
Muslims
Traditionalists
Witches
Wizards
Atheists
Bestialists
Homosexuals
Lesbians
All have well to do members who have riches amongst them.
So meditate on the difference between

In the midst!

and

In the life!

Maximus69:


There are many persons speaking in the Bible book of Revelations!
©Jehovah the Almighty God.
©Jesus the son of God.
©The angel sent to the congregations.
©The 144,000.
©The 24 elders.
©Apostle John himself.
But if the reader doesn't have God's holy spirit, he can't grasp whose voice is this or that. Daniel 12:10
The only way to identify those who understand this sacred secrets as in those who can tell you whose statement you're reading, God's word said "they will perform well in all that is expected of God's people" Daniel 12:3 compare to Matthew 5:14-16; 7:15-20

You are very evasive when you see you see a scripture that punctures your argument.
You managed to answer some question but a oided the ones that point to the fact that Jesus is God.
You are full already, you can't learn anymore.
Yet it's the poor in spirit Jesus called blessed for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

You JW always want others to learn from you but don't want to learn from others. You know how to share publications but won't collect from other denomiations. You are the modern day pharisees and saducees. You're clearly not disciples of Christ. And that's not an insult but a statement of fact.

Myer:


You are very evasive when you see you see a scripture that punctures your argument.
You managed to answer some question but a oided the ones that point to the fact that Jesus is God.
You are full already, you can't learn anymore.
Yet it's the poor in spirit Jesus called blessed for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

You JW always want others to learn from you but don't want to learn from others. You know how to share publications but won't collect from other denomiations. You are the modern day pharisees and saducees. You're clearly not disciples of Christ. And that's not an insult but a statement of fact.

Jesus is a perfect teacher even if i claim he's our leader you will start arguing, but can you just point to a portion of the Bible where the followers of Christ agree to learn anything from other groups claiming worshipers of the same God?
Yet Pharisees, Saddusees, Scribes, Priests and other Jewish religionists always go after the Christians to learn from them despite claiming they're worshipers of the same God.
Well perhaps you don't understand, we are the true Christians and based on what we know, there is no friendship between light and darkness, so there is nothing to learn from Christendom Churches!

But you can convince us by producing the fruit of God's holy spirit, if Jehovah's Witnesses observe the fine works in your midst, we will consider learning from you, apart from that we don't deal with groups of no practical benefits!

Maximus69:


Jesus is a perfect teacher even if i claim he's our leader you will start arguing, but can you just point to a portion of the Bible where the followers of Christ agree to learn anything from other groups claiming worshipers of the same God?
Yet Pharisees, Saddusees, Scribes, Priests and other Jewish religionists always go after the Christians to learn from them despite claiming they're worshipers of the same God.
Well perhaps you don't understand, we are the true Christians and based on what we know, there is no friendship between light and darkness, so there is nothing to learn from Christendom Churches!

But you can convince us by producing the fruit of God's holy spirit, if Jehovah's Witnesses observe the fine works in your midst, we will consider learning from you, apart from that we don't deal with groups of no practical benefits!

JW are one of a kind to deal with in an argument.

Rozz:
JW are one of a kind to deal with in an argument.

Dearie, JWs are Bible students, not my -pastor ,god- of -men- pastorpreneurs- says follow follow...
What the Bible really says, not man made twists of what it says
That is what you are seeing on this forum.
We use the Bible to prove its Truth and where freshboi88 and others resort to use unfounded claims we point it out.

Shalom

Rozz:
JW are one of a kind to deal with in an argument.

The truth is we're strictly ordered to avoid unnecessary and fruitless arguments 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9

We go in search of the lost sheep of the house of Israel (individuals who want to know how to worship God, where to worship and who are the true worshipers of God) Matthew 10:6

Once we make our presentation and notice the person wants to argue, we are asked to excuse ourselves! Proverbs 17:14

Janosky:


Dearie, JWs are Bible students, not my -pastor ,god- of -men- pastorpreneurs- says follow follow...
What the Bible really says, not man made twists of what it says
That is what you are seeing on this forum.
We use the Bible to prove its Truth and where freshboi88 and others resort to use unfounded claims we point it out.

Shalom

For instance imagine Myer who said
"the Qur'an is more accurate than the Bible"
Now trying to point accusing fingers at JWs saying "they don't want to learn from other"!

Maximus69:


For instance imagine Myer who said
"the Qur'an is more accurate than the Bible"
Now trying to point accusing fingers at JWs saying "they don't want to learn from other"!

And I thought JW are pro muslims,so Myer might have said so from that angle

Janosky:


Dearie, JWs are Bible students, not my -pastor ,god- of -men- pastorpreneurs- says follow follow...
What the Bible really says, not man made twists of what it says
That is what you are seeing on this forum.
We use the Bible to prove its Truth and where freshboi88 and others resort to use unfounded claims we point it out.

Shalom

In any arguments,each side always have something to prove.Unfounded claims?smh

Rozz:
And I thought JW are pro muslims,so Myer might have said so from that angle

NO!

Myer is a disguised atheist.

You can't say the Qur'an is more accurate than the Bible, at the same time advocating for religionists claiming Jesus is God "Almighty".

Muslim don't even agree with the concept of son of God talkless Jesus being God!

So Myer just don't want any standard, and the only way out is to support confusion!