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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:19pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
While other clubs players are bickering over wage cuts or wage deferrals, Chelsea players have accepted 10% wage cut (not deferral) and are open to further cuts should the need arise. When you have an owner like Abramovic who continues to pay all staff, even casual matchday staff who have no fixed contract, who has opened up Chelsea hotel for Healthcare staff to stay for free so they can be close to their hospital etc, the players have no choice but to follow his lead. 12 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 9:22pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
larride: I just read the ASUU chairman's interview with Nigerian Tribune. He gave reasons for their refusal to provide their BVN. He claimed the government had been paying them salaries over the years without the use of BVN, where are they suddenly requesting for it now? It is the believed that the government is probably looking for a way to drag them to the IPPIS platform by hook or by crook. ( You know these lecturers think far and wide) If I was in their shoes too I wouldn't trust the federal government and I will be angry as well. Does anybody request for the BVN of Legislooters, Judisharing and Executives before paying them? 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:30pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
BlueRayDick: What of ghost workers? Do they want to move with times, With BVN it will be hard for ghost workers, Why are they against IPPIS or whatever it stands for, When these same lecturers started online course registration and fee ayment, should students too refuse that we prefer the cash and teller and course form on A4 papers 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 9:32pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
Expert17: I did one free course on IBM last year. They usually have free courses, although the Corona helped too And yes, you can't cheat in the exam 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 9:40pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
raumdeuter: ASUU are not foools who would out rightly reject the government's offer on the IPPIS because they want to get stuck on the old ways of doing things, they gave reasons for rejecting IPPIS. Not only did they just reject the IPPIS, they gave an alternative system/platform which they believe is simpler to implement and will achieve the accountability as well as eliminate ghost workers getting paid, which of course is what the government claims IPPIS seeks to achieve. See link below for more details about the alternative system : https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2019/12/27/ASUU-proposes-alternative-to-ippis/amp Their metting was a stalemate earlier, the government used the stick by withholding their salary which obviously angered them and has led to distrust ; hence they won't be buying the BVN story for now |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Victornezzar: 9:42pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
Ibime:. A month or thereabout |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Victornezzar: 9:43pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
Expert17:But it'll just be certificate of completion na |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Odunharry(m): 10:01pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
Victornezzar:n NIIT 250K. Those ones na criminal always na |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:02pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
Victornezzar: Thanks. Do you have any quick resources (links) to recommend? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Mrphilia: 10:16pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
Me I'm learning advanced excel for now on YouTube though. I'm thinking of going into full data science when I'm done with it. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:34pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 10:53pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
BlueRayDick: The government is not going to continue doing things the old way. The government is coming to a compromise to pay them during this pandemic yet they are saying the government should go pay them through the old method. BVN will expose the lot of them taking multiple salary from the system. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 11:00pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
BlueRayDick: You actually think a payment system like IPPIS is static? The Accountant general has said it repeatedly that the system can take on their peculiarities and it will be factored into the system when registering them. Is IPPIS not paying those that has enrolled? There are non teaching staff of universities already on IPPIS, there are teaching staff of college of education and poly also on the system and IPPIS is paying them, so what exactly is the peculiarities that ASUU are shouting about? It’s even funny they are proposing a payment platform the government should use to pay them. They are employees of govt. they didn’t employ themselves. Let all other agencies should kuku start proposing their own payment system for the government to pay them. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 11:03pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
larride: I already gave a response to Dayo which I believe should cover the point u raised here. The government did wrong by withholding their salary when they know they are still on the negotiation table. The government proposed IPPIS, ASUU rejected it and proposed UTAS instead which they believe took care of the peculiarities of the tertiary education sector emoluments. There was a stalemate with both parties claiming their own software system is best suited for the accountability and transparency the government plans to achieve. The government applied the stick by withholding their salary. Now they want to pay and the lecturers insist they get paid the normal way it's been done in the past pending when they both agree on the IPPIS/UTAS payment solution. I don't think there is anything wrong in this. The government has shown they can't be trusted in the past and the lecturers are not taking chances. They believe if they get paid tru BVN, the government might as well use that to drag them back to the IPPIS which they have vehemently rejected. I hope u understand their stand now 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pkasso(m): 11:04pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
Shekpe players just be disgracing their clubs for all these esports tournaments wey dem dey play. Imagine Reece James losing 0-8 to Andre Gomes for ePL. Mount sef chop 5 for Cantwell hand for another competition. Azpi lose 2-0 for one. In fact, the only time a Chelsea player won was when Abraham beat Hudson-Odoi 5-2. SMH. 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 11:06pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
larride: @The bold part of Ur post, I don't think u clearly understand how powerful trade unions can be. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by madrid5: 11:29pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
izzou:abeg what is this stuff,how can I get involved. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 11:39pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
BlueRayDick: The government gave them a deadline to enroll and the deadline has passed. There’s nothing special about their peculiarities. It won’t even take anything to set them up. Medical doctors who receive all kind of allowance are on the system also. The military are also going to be enrolled on the system. What exactly is that peculiarities that IPPIS cannot solve? I hope you know there are some of their memebers that have enrolled on this IPPIS and they have been getting their salary? Government has every right to withhold their salary because they failed to compile with the directive that’s meant to process their payment. As long as ASUU members are employees of government, they cannot dictate how the government or which payment system the government should use to pay them. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 11:40pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
BlueRayDick: And you clearly do not understand how powerful government can be. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 11:47pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
madrid5: Are you asking about the site, or the course? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:51am On Apr 23, 2020 |
BlueRayDick: What is unique about the service ASUU provides that cannot be reproduced, Do you know how many people are waiting on the sidelines to replace them? Let FG put adverts asking even for foreign-trained PhD and see how many applications they go get. Someone once said ordinary customer service job advertised at under 200k, enough foreign-trained Masters dey apply never mind Naija Masters ASUU are just a bunch of entitled people, I remember how many times they cancelled session when I was still in school claiming they were tired and after sending us home for months almost a year, They all resumed to private Universities to teach and get paid double You are forgetting who the employer and employee is here, and trade union in an environment like Nigeria where many people are jobless, You remember one time Doctors went on strike and Lagos state govt put their roles up for hire, they got thousands of application from many doctors who have been jobless before I already argued some time back, Public University is becoming a waste of time for many courses especially for Technical course, You are almost certain going to learn more useful stuff online than in those Universities where your lecturer will be teaching you Fortran77 Your employer says they want to pay you by direct deposit, you tell them you prefer to collect cash, and you gave them reasons? Abeg those that are collecting salary through IPPIS are they lesser animals? You see salary you dey claim say you no want it to be paid in one style, You don see where Grace give diggz toto, wey him complain say e no get hair? ![]() ![]() ![]() How many students did they consult when they changed the payment system of School fees from teller to scratch card and online portals, If students dare protest they immediately expel them They are not serious 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 12:51am On Apr 23, 2020 |
larride:Are you aware there are series of deductions made from the salaries of university, polytechnic, and college lecturers, who joined IPPIS at the beginning of the year? FG seems to be dishonest about this IPPIS thing, especially when it comes to people in academia. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by DeadPresidents: 1:39am On Apr 23, 2020 |
Ibime: I covered Python 2 core operations in 2011 and it took me about 40 hours for my base use case (I was building desktop and web applications with it) If your core use case for Python is data science, you could pick up its general syntax and basic operations in less than that (10 - 15 hours perhaps) The data science modules (scikit, scikit-learn, keras, pytorch etc) could easily add another 20 hours to go from basic knowledge to rudimentary proficiency. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Victornezzar: 2:51am On Apr 23, 2020 |
Ibime:Udemy Coursera There's also Pluralsight and stackify Those I know for now.... Best bet will be YouTube or Udemy 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 7:55am On Apr 23, 2020 |
TiAd: FG is deducting tax and other contributing funds from source. From those I have interacted with, the only deduction that seems new to them is the 2.5% mortgage contributory scheme. Most of them know nothing about that mortgage fund. Now these are the kind of questions they should ask, not saying IPPIS can’t cater for their peculiarities. It’s not even that IPPIS is a new thing, it was conceptualized by Obasanjo in 2006 and went live in 2007. It’s run on an Oracle application. The idea of IPPIS is to have an integrated payment system and enable the government to know each MDAs staff strength. ASUU are hiding something. Enroll on IPPIS them say no, Oya bring your BVN to process your withheld salary so you can take care of your families during this pandemic, they still say No. nah they are trying hard to hide something. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 8:06am On Apr 23, 2020 |
larride: I was also like you thinking the ASUU guys are deliberately jeopardizing our tertiary education sector with their unreasonable demands until I got an insight into their concerns and fears as regards the IPPIS. Below is what my friend who happens to be a lecturer wrote on the IPPIS issue in Facebook. (I had to crop out his name) I hope u can read it with an open mind and understand what the stand of the lecturers are. 3 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by madrid5: 8:08am On Apr 23, 2020 |
izzou:both |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 8:18am On Apr 23, 2020 |
raumdeuter: And u honestly think foreign lecturers will come home and teach in Nigerian universities that are grossly underfunded? You think Nigerian professors in Foreign universities will leave their host countries with 24/7 electricity and come down here. Shey no be u dey tell somebody which day say u no dey come Naija wey still never get light ![]() The government obviously knows more than u do. They know how they've failed in so many ways and they know sacking the present lecturers and calling for applications will lead nowhere. Even when the foreign lecturers come, they won't spend up to a year in total before jumping ship and leaving the government hanging in the balance. The government will surely go back crawling to the same lecturers they sacked. Funny enough sef, we presently have a dearth of PHD holders in Nigeria. This is why u see some people use as much as 7 years for a PhD programme cos they have to wait for when another supervisor will be free to be assigned to them. ASUU is only trying to hold a failed government to ransom to get what they want like most people would do in their shoes 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Swissh: 9:00am On Apr 23, 2020 |
BlueRayDick:The guy made some good points. Another issue is why are NNPC, NIDC, CBN, FIRS etc not included in IPPIS? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 9:20am On Apr 23, 2020 |
Swissh: Exactly.....in fact there is an article where the Auditor general claimed NNPC, DPR and FIRS deducted 1.5trillion illegally and was not remitted to the federation account. https:///33U16lH What most people who want to castigate ASUU don't know is those old men are very very intelligent, they have this info and will always use it to negotiate a better welfare foe their staff. The government will allow NNPC, FIRS do rubbish but will be claiming strict and firm employer with ASUU....It won't work abeg 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 9:26am On Apr 23, 2020 |
BlueRayDick: Using Doctors as a ref has rubbished everything he stated as reason for not joining IPPIS. Doctors on federal payroll are currently paid through IPPIS. They have been for quite some time now. IPPIS does not pay just salary, it pays allowances also. Dr Joe Abah (Former Director General of Bureau of Public Reforms) has said it mutilple time that the leadership of ASUU are the one misleading their members, IPPIS as a payment system is not static, each MDAs has their subset, ASUU members will be a subset under the Education ministry. Those that have enrolled, are they not getting paid? Police and other para military are getting their basic salary and allowance through this same IPPIS. Even the Military has been directed to all enroll. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 9:27am On Apr 23, 2020 |
Swissh: These agencies are revenue generating agencies. They do not draw their personnel cost from the Consolidated Revenue Account. ASUU does. 2 Likes |
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