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Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by sonmvayina(m): 11:39am On Apr 18, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE: The only comment that makes any sense.. |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by shadeyinka(m): 11:51am On Apr 18, 2020 |
sonmvayina:You don't see them, but 1. They can influence a person 2. One can interact with them through their host |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by sonmvayina(m): 12:15pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
shadeyinka: How do you tell which is which...or is it left for everyone to judge? |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by shadeyinka(m): 12:42pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
sonmvayina:A person is suspected to be demonized through several means 1. When the person behaves in a way (not usually logical) as to suggest demonization. Eg eating faeces, compulsive sex, kleptomania, violent rage/anger etc 2. When a person has a health challenge that has defied the best of medical interventions 3. When a person has vivid dreams as to suggest demonization eg. Always having sex, always being pursued, always being chained or in prison, always eating food or oddities in the dream 4. When reversal of good fortunes repeats so much as to be forming a consistent pattern 5. When a person manifests their demon in the course of prayer/deliverance session 6. When God expressly says a person is demonized. This is usually the main means of identification for a person who has the spiritual gift called "word of knowledge or discernment of spirits". A person can confirm the presence of demons only when the demon is forced to manifest itself during deliverance prayer. |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by Myer(m): 4:48pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: I beg to differ eventhough I know you might not want to hear this since it's like telling a son that his father isn't superman afterall. For starters, War broke out in perfect heaven. Lucifer tried to impeach God right? Which in turn led to angels becoming demons right? I don't think perect God budgeted for that, do you? Adam and Eve only committed 1 sin right that supposedly got us in sinful world right? How come the riggeousness of Christ could not reverse that? God they aay is the same yesterday today and forever right? Did you notice the changes in God's personalities between Old testament, New testament and apparently at Judgement Day? Honestly, I wish i didn't have to keep doing this but it's just too glaring not to see the errors and contradictions. But iunderstand that religion is blindening. The same way you can't possibly convince a terrorist that the 99 virgins is all sham and scam. God failed in so many stories in the bible but it's easier to put the blame on the fallen man. Even Jesus came because of Jews but guess what he failed there too cos they didn't believe him. Which was why he turned to gentiles. Since you're the bible scholar, I'll leave you to do your study. With an open heart this time. 1 Like |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by MuttleyLaff: 5:25pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
Myer:Just go and sit down in a corner somewhere anywhere jor and please dont spin me that yarn about someone being the bible scholar or not bible scholar crap jor again Myer, I wont be typing much. OK? I am not typing much because they are too many holes in all you've typed up there, it is smh pitiful. Now Myer, keep in the back of your mind, when you said "... I don't think perfect God budgeted for that, do you?... God failed in so many stories in the bible ..." that one should pay close attention to Someone, confident enough to show their hands beforehand, leave their playing cards on the table, lol, open and facing upwards lol. Go brush up on your Bible with Genesis 3:15, lol, in order to get rid of your truth decay that Jesus failed, lol Another hole, is about why we seem to have some misguided black guys calling themselves, Igbo Jews, black Israelites, Bantu Jews, lol and whatnot. It is because of the lack of knowledge of know who the lost sheep of Israel is that Jesus was sent to and why, lol. You've just up there too slipped on that banana skin By the way, the reason why I havent been able to reply to vaxx1 and sonmvayina posts up there, is because of my "it keeps freezing" browser. I have tons of tabs open and dont want to close them, so my browser resources are hogged, lol Lastly, Bible 101, right from Genesis, would tell you that Jesus came for the world, but as protocol demands, He had to start from and with the lost tribe of Judah first, then at the appointed time others next and the rest of the whole wide world, lol, following. God they say is the same yesterday today and forever right? Yeah Myer, and it is said that way because it is talking about the infinity of God there, lol. That's the essence of what the quality of God's beingness is, Myer, lol. It means God exists in the past (i.e. yesterday), present (i.e. today) and future (i.e. forever). Thats what's all to that saying, Myer, lol. Pftt, smh. Facepalm. |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by ABOVEDELAW: 6:28am On Apr 19, 2020 |
WHAT IS CLEAR? Ladylite: |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by oaroloye(m): 10:48am On Apr 19, 2020 |
MISHIGAS! LordReed: oaroloye: The Physical Universe is an Effect Created by The Static, that is, Spirit. Human Spirits habitually grow up weak and lazy. Therefore we use NOT-IS-NESS (Brute Physical Force,) to assemble our Physical Bodies, instead of AS-IS-NESS, because it is easier. Therefore we forget what we can do. We can create or annihilate our Physical Bodies at will, without injuring our Spiritual Energy Bodies- if we maintain our Soul Bodies' vibrational integrity. It is merely a matter of TEN REVELATORY INSIGHTS to rehabilitate this ability. [See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda. THE CELESTINE PROPHECY, by James Redfield.] LordReed: A DEVIL (THE TERM "DEMON" DOES NOT OCCUR IN THE REAL BIBLE,) IS BOUND BY THE SAME RULES EVERY SPIRIT IS GOVERNED BY- EVEN GOD. oaroloye: YOU MUST BE IGNORANT OF THE ORIENTAL MARTIAL ARTS, IN WHICH A WEAKER FIGHTER OVERCOMES A STRONGER BY APPLYING LEVERAGE, BALANCE, AND WISDOM. How can you be also ignorant of the Animal-Control techniques whereby Humans manipulate Beasts several times stronger and faster than they are. . MATTHEW 12:41-45. 41. "The men of Nineveh shall rise in Judgment with this Generation, and shall Condemn It: because they repented at the Preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a Greater than Jonas is here. 42. "The Queen of the South shall rise up in the Judgment with this Generation, and shall Condemn It: for she came from The Uttermost Parts of the Earth to hear The Wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a Greater than Solomon is here. 43. "When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44. "Then he saith, b]'I WILL RETURN INTO MY HOUSE FROM WHENCE I CAME OUT;'[/b and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45. "Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this Wicked Generation." LIFE IS MEASURED BY THE INTERCHANGEABLE FACTORS AFFINITY, REALITY, COMMUNICATION, KNOWLEDGE, RESPONSIBILITY, CONTROL, AND UNDERSTANDING. If any Entity has more of any of these than another Entity, in any Field, it can use that to usurp Control over them. LordReed: . JOHN 1:1-5,9. IN The Beginning was The Word, and The Word was with God, and The Word was God. 2. The same was in The Beginning with God. 3. All things were made by Him, and without Him was not anything made that was made. 4. In Him was Life, and The Life was The Light of Men. 5. And The Light shineth in Darkness, and The Darkness comprehended It not. 9. That was The True Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the World. ALL CREATURES BORN ARE IMMEDIATELY IMPRINTED BY THE MANIFESTATION OF GOD TO THEIR SPECIES, WITH THE LAW OF GOD TO THEIR KIND, WHICH ENABLES THEM TO DO THE THINGS OF THEIR KIND. At the same time, they are assigned an umbilical train of packets of Spirit Energy from a Heavenly Source, that impacts on their Soul Body on a position specific to their species. That of Humans is situated three finger-widths beneath the navel. This Spirit Energy must be used for the purpose of fulfilling The Creator's Commandments. If it isn't, it loses it's Spiritual Purity, and becomes degraded, like Milk, curdling. The Soul Body becomes clogged, as with dirt, soot, or silt, as disobedience to The Creator continues. The Soul Body itself becomes degraded, and loses it's Spiritual Attributes, losing elasticity, resilience, and vibrance. If this continues to a sufficient extent, the Soul Body becomes brittle at the point of Life-entry, and cracks open, spilling it's contents, which is immediate Death. An Entity manifests from the feed and attempts to collect a Record/Accounting of how the recently dead used the Life Energy given to it. That being must immediately run through its entire life memories, without interruption, omission, nor delay. If it does that in time, the Accountant-Entity is satisfied, and departs to deposit it's record, presumably somewhere in Heaven. If the being fails to deliver what is demanded of it, the "Accountant" cuts into the Soul Body, and extracts the data it wants- leaving that Soul Body critically-damaged, and unable to deploy it's AfterLife Body. SCAVENGER DEVILS descend on the stricken Soul-Body, and tear it to pieces, in the process of extracting it's last scraps of Life Energy. THIS IS HOW MOST CREATURES ON EARTH END THEIR LIVES. Only Humans are known to exercise the AfterLife Option. They can satisfy the Accountant-Entity, by achieving TOTAL RECALL before dying, and keeping the ability running, until, when they die, replaying their Life Memory becomes a simple process. The Accountant departs without damaging the Soul Body, so that it is able to extract the Life Energy from every cell, and use it to create a SPIRIT ENERGY BODY, capable of housing their Mind, Memories, and Personality, and exist without a Physical containing shell. This AfterLife Body has three possible Fates, depending upon that person's Spiritual Associations in Life: 4. HEAVEN: For those who lived according to Heavenly Law. 3. PARADISE: For those who lived by FAITH-IN-GOD, without Heavenly Enlightenment. 2. HELL: For those who obeyed the Devils, but still died with TOTAL RECALL. 1. OBLIVION: For those who die without TOTAL RECALL- no matter how "Good" or "Evil" they were in Life. LordReed: OF COURSE IT DOES- YOU HAVE A DIVINE RIGHT TO SEIZE ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING YOU CAN PERCEIVE! . EXODUS 22:1-6. "IF a man shall steal an ox, or a sheep, and kill it, or sell it; he shall restore five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep. 2. "If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him. 3. "If the Sun be risen upon him, there shall be blood shed for him; for he should make Full Restitution; if he have nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft. 4. "If the theft be certainly found in his hand alive, whether it be ox, or ass, or sheep; he shall restore double. 5. "If a man shall cause a field or vineyard to be eaten, and shall put in his beast, and shall feed in another man's field; of the best of his own field, and of the best of his own vineyard, shall he make Restitution. 6. "If fire break out, and catch in thorns, so that the stacks of corn, or the standing corn, or the field, be consumed therewith; he that kindled the fire shall surely make Restitution." FOOLS LIKE "SCIENCEWATCH" (IS HE DEAD YET?) WILL NOW RUN SHRIEKING THAT "OAROLOYE SAYS THAT STEALING IS A RIGHT!!! . DEUTERONOMY 25:13-16. 13. Thou shalt not have in thy bag divers weights, a great and a small. 14. Thou shalt not have in thine house divers measures, a great and a small. 15. (But) thou shalt have a perfect and just weight, a perfect and just measure shalt thou have: that thy days may be lengthened in the land which The LORD thy God giveth thee. 16. For all that do such things, (and) all that do unrighteously, (are) an abomination unto The LORD thy God. UNJUST OVERTS AGAINST OTHERS AUTHORIZES EQUAL OVERTS AGAINST ONESELF. This is why Devils do not just come in and TAKE someone. If they do that, they license the Universe to do the same thing to them. They have reason to FEAR that. Being a Dumb Animal is like playing a Game of Skill against Intelligent opponents, with your Mind and Body as the stakes. Your lack of Intelligence is disappointing. Humans do the same thing all the time, and you don't bat an eye. Why shouldn't a Spirit be able to do the same thing? Devils are in an advanced stage of Soul Body ossification. To slow it down, they have had to sacrifice their ability to receive the free flow of Spirit Energy from The Creator, by closing the opening on THEIR Soul Bodies that receive it. That means that they have to get the Life Energy they need to Survive from the other creatures. Luckily for them, there is one stupid species that HATES their own Creator, and are willing to let 99% of their Life Energies go to WASTE, so that the DEVILS can HARVEST It from them while they are alive, and when they are dead. |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by internetlord360(m): 12:02pm On Apr 19, 2020 |
Ladylite: FALLEN ANGELS ARE NOT DEMONS If you think that demons are fallen angels, check out these three Scriptures. Matthew 25:41 - "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels :" -- Jesus did not say "devil and his demons"! 2 Peter 2:4 - "For God did not [even] spare angels that sinned, BUT CAST THEM INTO HELL, delivering them TO BE KEPT THERE in pits of gloom TILL THE JUDGMENT AND THEIR DOOM." Jude 1:6 - "And angels who did not keep (care for, guard, and hold to) their own first place of power but abandoned their proper dwelling place - these HE HAS RESERVED IN CUSTODY IN ETERNAL CHAINS (bonds) under thick gloom of utter darkness UNTIL THE JUDGMENT AND DOOM OF THE GREAT DAY." I have heard it said that these Scriptures were only for "some" of the angels. These Scriptures are very clear to me - all, not some. |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by tintingz(m): 8:14pm On Apr 20, 2020 |
Maximus69: Let me just play along with this fairytale. What if God is the villain here and the demons are the good people trying to save humans from this villain call God? God now made up lies against demons that they are evil and rebels, he's doing everything to paint demons bad. If we read the Bible with open mind, we will see that God is the one doing the evil act not demons or Satan per se, Jesus can be God's son or close servant of God that escape from heaven to warn people of this villain God, remember a being appeared to Jesus in the wilderness to negotiate with him, this could be God but Jesus reject his offer then God got angry and killed Jesus, took his spirit to heaven to deal with him. Fairytales are really interesting. |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by Afromentalist: 6:25pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
LordReed:I was invited on this thread by gensteejay. Demons are simply concentrated dark inclinations / programs within our psyche. They have no real substance. It is the reason they can only be found in us and why they seem to need human bodies. A demon is like a malware to a computer program. It has no real substantial / material / concrete existence out of any computer system (our psyche). But within a computer, a small invisible malware can be powerful enough to take down the entire financial system of a country or the world. We should see demons like the corona virus. Invisible and powerless on its own, but very powerful when it is lodged in human body. So demons are the condensed destructive programs and inclinations of our inner fabric. In a sense, all of our lives is a fight to transcend them / master them and rise to mastery. For better or for worse. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by LordReed(m): 7:01pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
Afromentalist: Do they exist as a thing independently moving around or are they just a result of something going wrong internally. 1 Like |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by MuttleyLaff: 7:10pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
LordReed:I love these questions. Let me pull a chair and grab a glass of cherry for this, lol 1 Like |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by Nobody: 7:17pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
Afromentalist:Thanks. I can see a similarity between your view and OtemAtum's. |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by kkins25(m): 7:28pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
MJBOLT:definitely supernatural |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by Afromentalist: 7:39pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
LordReed:They are created within ourselves, but have external existence through aggregation with similar thoughtforms. When they associate in this manner, they become a super being with great power. Think of it like states. States have no concrete existence, except in our mind. There is nothing like nigeria or niger except on paper. On human beings and natural landscape. Now, when humans group themselves, they form a higher reality that although non material is nonetheless very powerful. |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by kkins25(m): 8:06pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff self, im disappointed. A thread with angels and sex is going on and i missed all the action. Ehnn... You know i no dey joke with the promiscuity of the then angels at all at all.. A very good question you have dodge is one asked by FOLYKAZE is if sons of God was an expression for the Gods people then why were the jews vexed at yeshua ben yosef when he proclaimed to be the Son of the living God? Hmm? Kindly address this ASAP. IM really fascinated about demons and this thread is exactly what i need to distract me from colonial virus. Vaxx1, i thought you were no longer active on the forum. Its good to know you're still around bro. Concerning you're claim on non existance of demons, the sages of old have made it know that humans are not the only intelligent creature in the universe. The jews, yoruba folklore, hausa, igbo, greeks, etc all have one tale or the order that involved an entity other than God. What about elemental creatures? Nature spirits? Etc. I am aware some of these are personified forms of natural phenoma. I would like to discuss with you on a matter that does not concern the thread. Can i email you? Many magicians like aliester crowley all claim to have contacted or summoned demonic entities. |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by kkins25(m): 8:08pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
TiAd:Not really otematum but the legendary billyonaire |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by kkins25(m): 8:09pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
Afromentalist:an interesting POV. are you saying demons are our instinctive animal behaviour? |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by kkins25(m): 8:13pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
Who the fxxck invited ororo-loye here?? 1 Like |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by MuttleyLaff: 8:59pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
kkins25:[img]https://s6/images/orijinbitters.jpg[/img] My guy make I appease you with this, as I pass you, this chilled bottle of orijin to cool down your flared up temper with, lol Please drink responsibly though, lol. kkins25:"Then God said, “Let Us make man (i.e. human being(s)) in Our image, after Our likeness, to rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it." - Genesis 1:26 "Then they scoffed, “He’s just a carpenter, the son of Mary and the brother of James, Joseph, Judas, and Simon. And his sisters live right here among us.” They were deeply offended and refused to believe in him." - Mark 6:3 "And all were bearing witness to Him and marveling at the grace of the words that are proceeding out of His mouth. And they were saying, "Is this not the son of Joseph?"" - Luke 4:22 You got hold of the wrong end of the stick with how you constructed this one bro, lol. Fyi kkins25, Yahushua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, aka Yeshua ben Yosef too, took the title son of man, upon Himself, identifying to the fact of coming into this world through the means of another human being. It basically means that Yahushua, is saying He is a boy or man, in relation to either and/or both of His parents (i.e. Joseph and/or Mary) The word man used in Genesis 1:26, in the original text actually means human being(s), lol. So, contrary to how to phrased things up, the Jews werent vexed at the Yahushua calling Himself son of man. Oh no thry had no problems with that, what ticked them off, was that they said Yahushua was equating Himself to God, and so as if trying to claim He is God, lol. That was one of the charges levelled against Him at the kangaroo court. kkins25:It is a complex and not that rigorously understood subject, lol. When I get time, will cc you when about to share my accumulated knowledge of demon, but for now as an entry level, demons are an Old Testament mentioned concept slash phenomenon, lol. kkins25:I laughed out loud when reading vaxx1 typing "The word demons comes from the greek word daimon ..." are trying to advanced that there is no Old Testament concept of demon, lol. I have my replies to both vaxx/vaxx1, FOLYKAZE and even sonmvayina, sitting unfinished and pushed to the back burner. Will soon get to them and reply back to all three of them, lol kkins25:Email vaxx1's secretary nah, lol kkins25:What Aleister Crowley and the invited Demoncrats, get up to in his fun dinners, you dont want to know about, lol. Pun was intended, lol kkins25:[img]https://s2/images/MuttleyHilarious.gif[/img] 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by Nobody: 9:07pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
kkins25:What do you mean? |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by MuttleyLaff: 9:14pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
kkins25:Thats a big leap, dont you think, lol, hmm? Isnt that an oxymoron in there I am spotting, erhn?. Instinctive animal behaviour? Within a human being? C'mon now kkins25, when animal, means all living beings except humans, lol. Thats some rather interesting POV indeed, lol |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by LordReed(m): 10:05pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
Afromentalist: How would they aggregate? 1 Like |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by Tamaratonye1(f): 11:43pm On Apr 22, 2020 |
Some psychos in this thread'll be yapping absolute tosh, and they believe in their hearts that they've communicated. It's a horrid sight indeed... 1 Like |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by sonmvayina(m): 10:28am On Apr 23, 2020 |
Tamaratonye1: The presentation is well over you..why not sit down and learn... because it is not consistent with the bull shiiit your pastor feeds you with.. |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by Tamaratonye1(f): 10:35am On Apr 23, 2020 |
sonmvayina:Mumu. See how you just swallowed the bait whole And there he goes assuming I'm a Christian. SMH 1 Like |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by sonmvayina(m): 10:46am On Apr 23, 2020 |
Tamaratonye1: See this slowpoke , that does not know her right from her left... Make a contribution..let us hear you. |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by Tamaratonye1(f): 10:49am On Apr 23, 2020 |
sonmvayina:I know it pained you that you fell for the bait like that. Guilty conscience is not good, and I wasn't even referring to you initially lol Anyways, I don't believe in demonic possession so my position here is negative. 2 Likes |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by MuttleyLaff: 11:02am On Apr 23, 2020 |
Tamaratonye1: Tamaratonye1:[img]https://s2/images/MuttleyHilarious.gif[/img] |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by sonmvayina(m): 11:11am On Apr 23, 2020 |
Tamaratonye1: How does your beliefs translate to the truth..people believe the moon is made of cheese,does it mean it is true?... So why do you not believe in demonic possession? 1 Like |
Re: If Supernatural Bodies Are Better Than Human Bodies Why Do Demons Possess Humans by Tamaratonye1(f): 11:24am On Apr 23, 2020 |
sonmvayina:Wtf does this even mean? Have I made any assertion here? Have I implied anything in this thread as fact? Lmao sonmvayina:Good question. Why don't I believe in it? Lack of reliable evidence. Surely you have heard of the null hypothesis? 3 Likes |
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