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We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by WisdomFlakes: 7:35pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
https://thepeoplesnewsafrica.com/we-must-stop-borrowing-and-start-printing-money-for-our-development/ Africa's Position in the Global Economic System Mynd44, Lalasticlala 5 Likes 1 Share
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Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by Goldencheese(m): 8:48pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
While this may go against simple Economics the arguments laid out make it very attractive and something to be considered by African nations. I listened to a podcast that that was exactly what China did. I think it is worth trying. 8 Likes |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by Nobody: 9:00pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Goldencheese:Yes is worth trying 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by PureGoldh(m): 9:01pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Seems borrowing is in Africa's blood....Late Lucky Dube talk say "Blessed is the hand that giveth than the one that taketh" |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by seunmsg(m): 9:13pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Tinubu suggested this some weeks back and the social media mob shouted him down. It is good that the president of Rwanda is suggesting same to African leaders and nobody can accuse him of wanting to embezzle freshly minted notes. Hopefully, those in charge of our monetary policy would look at this suggestion objectively and decide if it’s worth exploring. All options must be considered at this point. Yesterday, the chairman of the Governors forum said that states might be getting zero allocation from June if there is no rebound in the fortunes of crude oil price and sales. Simply put, by June ending, most states and even the FG may not be able to pay workers salaries not to talk about completing ongoing projects or embarking on new ones. This should tell us the kind of problem we’re going to face once this lockdown is over. Government leaders across board and those in charge of managing our economy must start thinking out of the box to come up with an homegrown solution to the inevitable economic crisis that is coming. No idea should be discarded without properly weighing its merit and demerits. 12 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by festacman(m): 9:32pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Why does this old idea sound so INTERESTING because it came from Rwandan President, Paul Kagame? Interestingly, the same people who insist that Naira should be left to the whims and caprices of market forces are now excited that Paul Kagame suggested that African countries should print more money to fund development rather than borrow. The truth is that if African leaders would manage and allocate their resources efficiently to building vital infrastructure, expanding their agricultural production, exploring their natural resources transparently and encouraging local production, there would little need to borrow, let alone PRINT MONEY. But lack of vision, wrong/insincere policies and corruption among the leaders are big drawbacks. Therefore, telling African leaders to print money is creating another avenue for them to artificially create money and loot, leaving their economies deeper in woes. In my opinion, this Kagame's bold policy proposition is inapplicable for African economies. In the case of Nigeria, we are borrowing to fund basic infrastructure simply because our own brothers and sisters looted the money we made from oil over the years and took the money to develop other countries, leaving their country in terrible state. Now, apart from corruption, leadership is also a big problem in Africa. In this area, Paul Kagame for all his digital posturing is a big culprit for holding on to power for too long and brooking no slightest of opposition or criticism. The truth is whatever accomplishments he made will crumble when he eventually leaves office or dies as politicians will fight dirty for power in the absence of stable power transfer process. When this happens, it will take Rwanda back to square one. It happened in Côte d'Ivoire with Félix Houphouët-Boigny, Somali with Mohamed Siad Barre and Libya with Muammar al-Gaddafi. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by cool318(m): 9:36pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
A typical negation of Macro and microeconomics, but a very viable option if I might say. But I tell you, this should not be tried in Nigeria else , we will end up buying 10 private jets and Luxury Yatchs each for our unending gluttons called POLITICIANS Kageme should lead the way forward for Africa |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by AtikuNetwork: 9:39pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
I admire the boldness and innovativeness of the idea. Africa needs to find homegrown solutions to its problems if it is to ever really develop at scale. The IMF/World bank model has never helped us. Upon all the borrowing we have been borrowing since 'independence', we still aren't developing appreciably enough. In the end we will go and still beg for 'debt relief' from the same developed countries that are in far more debt than us multiple times over, and these same countries don't hesitate to borrow and print their own currency when and anyhow they feel like it. The coming post-covid era is going to be brutal for Nigeria and Africa economically, due to dwindling revenues. Most African countries will again be forced to go and do bambiala to IMF/World Bank. For how long? 4 Likes |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by Ayekotoo(m): 10:07pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Wow! Food for thought. |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by Acidosis(m): 10:09pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Print more monies for economic looters to destroy your lives? Abeg we already have enough papers to go round. |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by mushystuff: 10:12pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
While this line of argument appears to have some merit, it is that uncertainty of proper management and transparency that is critical. Are the Nigerian political actors of today ready to keep their sticky, pilfering fingers out of the cookie jar? Can Buhari, his APC members and state governors generally commit to being honest enough to let real development take root without factoring in their greedy tendencies? Are they prepared to really enhance local capacity and stop patronising everything foreign like the Julius Bergers, the Chinese and so on? If these cannot be guaranteed or ensured, there is no point! 4 Likes |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by Xisnin(m): 10:14pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Only the craziest of the crazies will implement such a suggestion. This isn't a novel idea, printing notes to solve economic stagnation have been tried throughout history and it never ends well, a famous example being the Weimer Republic. There are many factors that must be in place including: First, the country must be 99% technologically self-sustaining. Second, the country must find others willing to do trade by barter in case of essential supplies because no sane person will accept money with no known value business outside such a country. Which African country has these securities? What proponents of these methods don't realize is that they will end up destroying confidence in their currency. If 2 contractors were awarded two different projects with freely printed money, the net effect will be inflation which means by the time the projects gets to 30%, about 5 times the initial cost may be needed to progress. Also, they never tell us when they will stop printing more notes and how they will reverse the erosion of public confidence. Perhaps, Kagame wants to create some Rwanda trillionaires overnight just like Mugabe. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by Dtribeless: 10:14pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
seunmsg: Tinubu was rightly shut down: It's a super-dumb idea, with inflation already at 10-15%. 3 Likes |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by Dtribeless: 10:15pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
AtikuNetwork: Because their currency is in demand. Who wants Naira besides Benin and Togo. Guys, open an economics notebook. What can you buy with Naira outside Nigeria? You can't say this for other dollar & Euro and Swiss Francs. So if you print and print, you will just inflate local prices and it's back to square one. Nigeria must produce more of what it needs locally; that way it can print currency. As long as we buy foreign, purchasing in dollars, we can't print. 2 Likes |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by GamalNasser: 10:16pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
You think western nation maintain their expensive huge militaries for war? |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by Dtribeless: 10:24pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Goldencheese: China can do that because it's a Producer economy and it's currency is in demand, albeit mostly in Asia. Only the US & Europe & China, can pull that at the moment. If we do that, like Zimbabwe, bread will cost N100,000. 5 Likes |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by AtikuNetwork: 10:36pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Dtribeless: Which of the economics notebooks? The big powers have been breaking the economic rules and getting away with, but Africans dare not try it. America is more indebted than any other nation of the earth, yet their money no dey ever finish. Why?? Left to the West, the Chinese would never have risen to prominence economically in spite of their communist history, yet China rose to its level of development without the World Bank and IMF breathing down their necks. Look, the economic notebook model you are touting was rigged to never work for anyone except those that wrote it (and even they break those rules yet they never suffer any consequences). Hitler didn't have to toe the line of the WW1 Victors to lift up Germany from the ruins. He simply rewrote the rules and made it work for Germany. My point is that all these years of IMF and World Bank inspired economic policies have not lifted Nigerians and Africans out of poverty so your textbook economics will not cut it for us. We need other solutions. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by 4Play(m): 10:43pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
seunmsg: The writer of the article is Kwadwo Agyei Yeboah and I can't see any evidence Paul Kagame stated we need to start printing money The fact that you and your ilk think money printing hasn't been tried before and that it will work tells us about the stranglehold of voodoo economics in Africa. If you print more naira, increasing the supply of naira, it will reduce the value of naira. The more of something you have, the less valuable it is. If you reduce the naira's value, you will have a currency crisis and we all know how impoverishing it is as the cost of goods become unaffordable. This money printing came up because we keep hearing about western economies doing it but they face a different set of problems - deflation which is a situation where cost of goods are falling as companies/investors will rather deposit money in the central bank than invest. By central banks increasing the quantity of money and using it to buy assets, they reduce its value and force investors to put their deposits to productive use instead of seeing it lose value. In Africa, we don't face the threat of deflation. In an economic crisis, cost of goods rise rapidly as people convert local currency to dollars and exporters refuse to repatriate money home. Remember our crises also coincide with fall in commodity prices which reduces export revenues and access to dollars. If you print more local currency, this will increase the imbalance between the supply of the local currency and the demand for dollars. So you will guarantee a currency crisis and a rapid increase in the cost of goods. Before aping an idea you see on CNN, ask yourself how this will work in Nigeria. And don't regurgitate a stupid idea because Tinubu supports it - I am sure he's able to protect himself by keeping a lot of his assets abroad. 3 Likes |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by Dtribeless: 10:45pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
AtikuNetwork: I appreciate your attempt at a reasonable conversation. I'd like you to answer a basic question on how it will work: Will more paper not be chasing the same goods, inflating prices? US dollars, pounds, yuan and Euro are in demand (US dollars full politicians across the world soak-away so can't inflate); that's why they can do that. It's called Eurodollar: dollars outside the US. I'd appreciate a measured and respectable conversation like we've had so far. LMK. |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by AtikuNetwork: 10:53pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Dtribeless: Did China ask the permission of the West before becoming a 'producer economy'? When China started taking its economic destiny in its hands, didn't the Western institutions such as the IMF and World bank expect them to fail in the process? When China embarked on ambitious developmental projects to multiply its GDP and productivity, did the Europeans and Americans give them the go-ahead? No. They just damned them and did what they had to do to get their people working and productive, thereby dramatically increasing their GDP in the process and creating value, and all the while the West was predicting their doom and shaking their heads from afar based on their own invented standards contained in their 'economic notebooks'. Isn't the same China a respected country today? How do you think China would have fared if it had put its destiny in the hands of the IMF and World Bank? I bet you they would be nowhere near where they are today! 2 Likes |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by 4Play(m): 10:53pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Dtribeless: They think that the effect of printing the naira is the same as printing the dollar or the euro. Interestingly, if you offer any of them $1m or N390m, they will likely choose $1m. It's about realizing the connection between the low faith/confidence in naira (evidence of which is abundant) and the consequences of increasing the supply of an untrusted currency. The reality is that we already have printed too much naira, this is why we have double digit inflation. So their preferred policy is already being implemented to miserable effects and they are demanding more of it. 4 Likes |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by JAMO84: 10:58pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
This is thrash. If printing enough currencies would solve the problem of debt, America wouldn't be owing China a dime. I AM DONE TALKING |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by IamgratefulLord(f): 11:00pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Xisnin:Brilliant piece. Na this kind people I dey follow for naira land |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by globalresource: 11:01pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Senseless But there is still sense |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by omonnakoda: 11:07pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Goldencheese:Sure it worked a treat in Zimbabwe |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by AtikuNetwork: 11:12pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Dtribeless: I like the direction of Kagame's suggestion. Though I don't know how workable it would be under a democratic dispensation due to the wrangling and divisive nature of democratic systems and politics. In my opinion, the likes of China and Singapore couldn't have developed as quickly as they did under a liberal democratic setting. Even Hitler had to appropriate dictatorial and authoritarian powers to achieve everything he was able to economically during his time. Dubai that everyone touts as a model of development today is also a product of a dictatorship. It just seems like the Caucasians are the only ones that tend to attain commendable development under democratic systems. At least that is my personal observation. I think development can only come in a restructured Nigeria, and under a 'benevolent dictatorship' setting And if our economic fortunes continues to dim with he whole COVID-19 situation, I see Nigeria restructuring by choice (or by force on the near future) even. My proposition would be that the geopolitical units of the country draw up developmental plans that will be hinged on mass education in STEM, and human capital development. And begin increasing local capacity so that there would be less dependence on foreigners for the simplest of tasks and projects. An aggressive project of modernization based on local capacity should be embarked upon. We already have very educated and capable Nigerians that can be called upon, that have enough expertise to make this happen if the will is there. Just like the Chinese, we need to become more self-reliant. 1 Like |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by festacman(m): 11:29pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
AtikuNetwork: Don't forget that China is one-party state that operates autocracy with many of government policies and actions shrouded in secrecy. So Chinese leaders can afford to experiment policies away from prying eyes of both internal and external publics. Moreover, China population has relative population homogeneity to stir up unnecessary resource allocation politics and ethnic shenanigans. Above all, China has zero tolerance for corruption. In practical terms, many factors favour China to do their thing unlike Nigeria. The reality is that experimenting with this idea is a lot difficult in Nigeria. 1 Like |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by Opexzy: 11:44pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
"if the fact does not suit the theory, change the fact" - Albert Einstein As good as this idea sounds it's a leeway to total destruction if any Africa nation attempt this.. America, Europe and China can try this because they produce enough goods that other nations need... The implication of this, is that you will need their currency to buy from them. Let's Nigeria first produce his basic needs and then for the rest of Africa nations... Until then we should desist from such idea... A country that your currency is not needed in both buy and selling in the international market... We sell to them to earn their dollars, pounds, euros... When we are buying from them they only demand their currency. Imagine contractors that want to build roads or any other infrastructure in this country, and we can't pay them with our own currency... Abegi let's boost local production and manufacturing of basic goods first... |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by odinga1of: 11:51pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
Lalasticlala, mynd44 and Seun This topic should grace the front page ASAP Not yeye Alex report with bleached ankle will be flooding front page with yeye models. |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by grandstar(m): 11:51pm On Apr 23, 2020 |
seunmsg: Paul Kagame isn't an economist and must have been dazzled by the UK, US and EU's ability to print money and "get away with it". Rwanda sadly isn't in the same league as these countries. Inflation in these countries or regions rarely exceeds 2% and with Covid19 inspired recession, inflation is basically dead in the water. A print run will not lead to high inflation as inflationary pressure is either low or non-existent. With the print run, consumer price inflation may not rise above 2%. However, there may be asset price inflation which is usually considered benign and it improves business confidence and encourages a cycle of investment. The real downside is the export of inflation. A lot of this money will flow outside and will surely lift the price of commodities and other assets worldwide as experienced in the series of quantitative easing used in the UK, US and eventually the EU in the late 2000s and the 2010s so as to recover from the Great Recession. Rwanda is projected to have an inflation rate of 5% this year. Were it to print money, inflation will easily hit double-digits, hurting the poor. This will also mess up the country's present brilliant economic record. Truth be told, 3rd world nations will need a bailout. Nigeria's cash flow problem is temporary as the price of oil will recover again. It may take about 6-8 months for prices to get back to their previous levels and this will be largely due to oil cuts from OPEC member states. Global economic growth will take some time to pick up as consumer confidence will be low due to uncertainties about whether the virus has been defeated by the populace The US, UK and perhaps the EU will or pump prime and some have done so already. Japan has already announced a massive sum. China might encourage its bank to provide tons of credit but China might be constrained due to the huge debt overload it already carries. For Nigeria, the sensible thing might be to seek a foreign loan. $10b is the sum that comes to mind. This should tide the country through this trying period. I see no other way out. 1 Like |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by AtikuNetwork: 12:04am On Apr 24, 2020 |
grandstar: You said Nigeria and other 3rd world countries may need another bailout or another round of bambiala? From whom? Where is that bailout money coming from? The same source that never runs dry abi? Later they will ask for another debt forgiveness. This is what I was saying. For how long will this continue? Same way America that holds more debt than any other country in the world keeps bailing out its big corporations and banks to the tune of hundreds of billions (by just printing money out of thin air) without it affecting its economy even after writing off those bailouts later on; bailouts that never get paid back. But you say Nigeria should not even try the same. All these voodoo economics shrouded in esoteric mombo jumbo has never and will never favour us in this country, not because we are the only ones that don't play by the rules/book, but because it was designed to keep us in a perpetual bambiala state. Inside life. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: We Must Stop Borrowing And Start Printing Money For Our Development- Paul Kagame by grandstar(m): 12:22am On Apr 24, 2020 |
AtikuNetwork: You want Nigeria with inflation rates in double digits to print money? Don't even think it. You seem to have ignored the fact that inflation is comatose in these countries. These countries have been hawkish about inflation for decades. They have an inflation target of 2% maximum yearly. If inflation was to exceed these figures, the Central Banks will immediately increase interest rates in order to reduce the money in circulation. This action may slow down the economy or even tilt it into a recession but it usually effective in bringing inflation below the 2% mark. It is because inflation is now either dead or in deflationary territory, they can now print money. Even if inflation stirs its ugly head, it may not rise beyond 2%. Were it to do so, the Central Banks may be forced to bring it down again below 2%. Does this printing of currency have a negative side? Of course, it does. The dollar lost value against most major currencies when it introduced quantitative easing. Yes, it does have its downside. 1 Like |
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