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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 3:46pm On Apr 24, 2020
rvp20182:
1) Having an IQ of 70 is considered retarded...like you. Nobody really has no IQ.
2) I talked about FREE media. You can have 1000 TV stations all showings Igbo witchcraft movies but the moment you get one critical TV or media stations you started accused them of working for Kenya to sabotage your good for nothing country.
3) The report documenting the harassment of journalists reporting COVIV-19 is from Amnesty International - Not me or us.
The journalists who went to complain to your amnesty international were working for a Kenyan newspaper. ( mwananchi and citizen)
Free media isn't about lies! You can't just come to TZ and publish a report which says a country has Ebola.if they asks you to prove your report,then you jump and proclaiming a word, Free media!

You can't just come to TZ and bring out a report which says the economy isn't growing,when asked for a proof,you jump and say free media. You will be arrested!

But if you write about how the government policy is slowing EAC integration, if you have proof,no one will arrest you!
We want proof.We don't allow Kenyans to come with their cheap papers and lie in our own nation!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Noisyrians: 3:46pm On Apr 24, 2020
Stvpid empty barrel making noise grin have you eaten today? Dirty, ugly pig grin

gallivant:


Check the home page, it's a snake massacre! I don't get it, what's wrong with chicken?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Noisyrians: 3:48pm On Apr 24, 2020
Stvpid fool. We are talking about mass starvation in Kenya and you are talking about snake and chicken?

gallivant:


Check the home page, it's a snake massacre! I don't get it, what's wrong with chicken?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 3:48pm On Apr 24, 2020
Yes, that is why I am not so much into COVID death when Africa has been ravaged by many epidemics. The western nations are justified to be scared but South Africa - go slow.

The maths. If we assume 8M infected will eventually die from HIV-AIDS - and we assume 4 people per household in South Africa - then we are talking nearly every south African family will be burying someone soon from HIV-AIDS.

I didn't count those that have died.

Bottomline - COVID-19 is joining a long list of other epidemics in Afirca.

Austine1212:


Maths has never been your thing

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 3:49pm On Apr 24, 2020
grin grin grin grin

You knew just like every one
Austine1212:


Maths has never been your thing

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:51pm On Apr 24, 2020
rvp20182:
Nobody arrest journalist in other nations. That is a modern democracy. You have so many information points. Kenya journalist are free to report anything - otherwise, if it was for gov - nobody would know Turkana people are starving. This is what is happening in Tanzania.

All gov have the interest to hide bad information and parrot like you only the positive- but a vibrant opposition, free media, civil society, online forums like these and stuff like Facebook are tools society uses to keep any gov in check.

You guys are yet to mature. You're not any better from North Korea.



No media freedom in kenya

SA, Namibia, ghana and Burkina Faso can speak of media freedom in whole of africa

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 3:52pm On Apr 24, 2020
The media don't work like that. grin They are not a court of law. They don't go on verifying their sources - there is simply no time - they rush to the print or air - and their ethics (objectivity, rationality) basically regulate them. If you disagree with what they say - just ignore them. It's like nairaland. Nobody will get arrested whatever they type here. In Kenya like in any country - the media get a lot of flak - but it doesn't become criminal.

The moment you criminalize media - then you're back to the bankrupt Tanzania of 1970s and 1980s - or fellow communist nations.

It's very primitive to arrest a journalist for saying nearly anything. Unless it's pure hate speech calling for say genocide.

Kazikazi:
The journalists who went to complain to your amnesty international were working for a Kenyan newspaper. ( mwananchi and citizen)
Free media isn't about lies! You can't just come to TZ and publish a report which says a country has Ebola.if they asks you to prove your report,then you jump and proclaiming a word, Free media!

You can't just come to TZ and bring out a report which says the economy isn't growing,when asked for a prop .f,you jump and say free media. You will be arrested!

But if you write about how the government policy is slowing EAC integration, if you have proof,no one will arrest you!
We want proof.We don't allow Kenyans to come with their cheap papers and lie in our own nation!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:54pm On Apr 24, 2020
Just30:
grin grin grin grin

You knew just like every one

Kenya has no media freedom

Please enlighten him again about HIV, he's still in the 60s

He's busy embarrassing himself

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 3:56pm On Apr 24, 2020
The danger of one single index.
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Austine1212:


No media freedom in kenya

SA, Namibia, ghana and Burkina Faso can speak of media freedom in whole of africa

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza6(f): 3:56pm On Apr 24, 2020
kikuyu1:


Speaking of which how common is this trend in the new SA? In your politics, public figures and sportsmen like Siya Kolisi here?

Very uncommon, you are more likely to find such among the common people than among public figures, Although for sometime,these kinds of relationships were pushed down our throats by the media and through social media , they are still insignificant. I would have thought the SA soccer players living overseas would come back with such ,but only one or two .

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:03pm On Apr 24, 2020
They dont listen

It is more dangerous to have more mad people than normal thinking people in a country than to have HIV people whos ability are not impaired
Austine1212:


Kenya has no media freedom

Please enlighten him again about HIV, he's still in the 60s

He's busy embarrassing himself
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:03pm On Apr 24, 2020
Just30:
grin grin grin grin

You knew just like every one

People with with glass houses like throwing stones lol


Rvp n kazi are suffering from same thing

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:03pm On Apr 24, 2020
Danielnino00:


Mumu.

Zuma rock has been existing long before even Jacob Zuma grandad shagged his grandmom...

Gosh! shocked
Dani,,, shagging is spectacularly era inapropriate/anachronistic in that case. Zuma's granddad never shagged his wife. Im sure they're turning in their graves for you saying that. He simply did what they called shagging back then. Daniela saying they shagged is similar to saying the Oba of Benin was holding an iPad in his left hand in the pic below.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 4:05pm On Apr 24, 2020
Kazikazi:
The journalists who went to complain to your amnesty international were working for a Kenyan newspaper. ( mwananchi and citizen)
Free media isn't about lies! You can't just come to TZ and publish a report which says a country has Ebola.if they asks you to prove your report,then you jump and proclaiming a word, Free media!

You can't just come to TZ and bring out a report which says the economy isn't growing,when asked for a proof,you jump and say free media. You will be arrested!

But if you write about how the government policy is slowing EAC integration, if you have proof,no one will arrest you!
We want proof.We don't allow Kenyans to come with their cheap papers and lie in our own nation!

Amnesty international doesn't need Kenyan newspapers to know what's happening in Tanzania. You need to focus your energy somewhere else. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:07pm On Apr 24, 2020
Problemkid1:
That's in Tanzania. It belongs to Tanzanians. Stop claiming what dose not belong to you. Stupid criminals grin grin grin

We gave it to them grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza6(f): 4:07pm On Apr 24, 2020
chrisooblog:
hmmm interesting point you make

For Nigeria the reasons are long and myriad unfortunately since the 80s Nigeria has had an infrastructure deficit which incompetence and corruption have not allowed us to bridge. Unfortunately our political system doesn't allow the best of Us to lead the way in most key positions due to a host of reasons that all boils down to ethnic religious suspicion and competition.

However the Lagos example has shown what can be done when you have leaders who think. Lagos 20 years ago was just another City but now things have dramatically changed just by merely adjusting the tax regime. You will probably try to counter my argument by saying that we also had Ports but these have always existed plus other parts of the country also have Ports as well. Mind you Lagos has no major of oil field exploration Ventures except for some offshore rigs of our coast. In fact if we are judging based on crude oil then Port Harcourt by far should be in richest city in Nigeria.

@ the bolded , I think that's the common problem for most African nations . The main question is what is causing this in your own country because each nation has it's own unique story ( mostly rooted in how the country was founded,and who led it post * independence * and how they got there ).

I still dont get what the problem is, because all what you have mentioned is common in most developing countries , South Africa included.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 4:07pm On Apr 24, 2020
rvp20182:
The media don't work like that. grin They are not a court of law. They don't go on verifying their sources - there is simply no time - they rush to the print or air - and their ethics (objectivity, rationality) basically regulate them. If you disagree with what they say - just ignore them. It's like nairaland. Nobody will get arrested whatever they type here. In Kenya like in any country - the media get a lot of flak - but it doesn't become criminal.

The moment you criminalize media - then you're back to the bankrupt Tanzania of 1970s and 1980s - or fellow communist nations.

It's very primitive to arrest a journalist for saying nearly anything. Unless it's pure hate speech calling for say genocide.

I don't which world are you living which lacks regulations and media bill.

South Africa which is regarded as having the most free media in the continent, have arrested a man for false information!

But if TZ arrests a guy for false information, that will be a sin.

Why?

Should a media in TZ just publish fake stuff without being held responsible? What kind of proffesion is that where you can just oparate any how? Without laws and guidance?

Am telling you,we will arrest more kenyan media in TZ for trying to destabilize our nation through media.watch out.We will teach you responsibility.
https://ewn.co.za/2020/04/07/wc-man-arrested-for-fake-news-on-coronavirus-testing-kits

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 4:08pm On Apr 24, 2020
forgiveness:


That's a good one. It is for countries with limited lab, I guess.
not really, it is for faster and reliable confidence in the test done in rural areas. Ghana for a population less than 30 million has over four equipped lab that can test Coro . and over 120 mini tuberculosis lab that are presently undergoing face lift to meet the standard that .can test the virus.

our biggest lab ( noguchi) can carry over 2000 test in a day .

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:11pm On Apr 24, 2020
Kazikazi:
South Africa had a first confirmed case on 5th march.
Kenya it was 12th march.
Tanzania was on 16 march.

Currently..
SA has 75 deaths
Kenya 17 deaths
Tanzania has 10 deaths.
The world must learn from us


The only way you're winning this one is if your govt decides to hide all the numbers. Im sure they are now in the hundreds but trust your dictator not to publish anything. Any doctor or Tanzanians who will be foolish enough to try to raise their voice will be killed. Magu cant lose the upcoming election because of a stupid thing like a virus.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:12pm On Apr 24, 2020
vaxx:
not really, it is for faster and reliable confidence in the test done in rural areas. Ghana for a population less than 30 million has over four equipped lab that can test Coro . and over 120 mini tuberculosis lab that are presently undergoing face lift to meet the standard that .can test the virus.

our biggest lab ( noguchi) can carry over 2000 test in a day .

Nice rep for black nations.
How many deaths so far?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 4:16pm On Apr 24, 2020
Lionessza6:


LMFAO, ofcourse he will wink, like he handled the pandemic better than Zuma handled ebola grin grin. Like he has improved the SOE's since he took over grin. Like he has made sure the unemployment rate is forever rising grin. What jobs will he create, Waiter ,maid & shop attendant jobs as Tito has alluded ?grin grin. I said to you, let's hope that rama will keep the soldiers in place even after September......I doubt that the masses will tolerate hearing more noise about job summits grin and great economic teams sent to London and Washington grin grin. But what do I know ....
Lets just watch this space wink lets come back to this topic in a couple of years and then I can say" I told you so" cool
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 4:17pm On Apr 24, 2020
chrisooblog:
jokes apart with your resources and modern infrastructure that rivals that of most European countries coupled with your relatively manageable population there is no reason why you should have been in a recession before the pandemic
I agree!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 4:18pm On Apr 24, 2020
gallivant:


Amnesty international doesn't need Kenyan newspapers to know what's happening in Tanzania. You need to focus your energy somewhere else. grin
Amnesty were told by Kenyans!
The time for Kenyans to lie and demonizing us internationally is over!
Just go write your fake reports about Burundi or Somalia but not us!

You started lying about mount Kilimanjaro.You lied about Olduvai gorge. You decided to go ahead and lie about Ebola. You didn't stop.Now you wanna lie about corona.
You do all that by thinking that will make us poor.And you love seeing us backtracking. You believe you will be on top once we backtrack.Very stupid mind! So you wanna see all your neighbors look like Somalia? You don't wanna have a rich neighbor? You don't wanna have Singapore next to you?!

Bastards

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 4:21pm On Apr 24, 2020
Kazikazi:
Amnesty were told by Kenyans!
The time for Kenyans to lie and demonizing us internationally is over!
Just go write your fake reports about Burundi or Somalia but not us!

You started lying about mount Kilimanjaro.You lied about Olduvai gorge. You decided to go ahead and lie about Ebola. You didn't stop.Now you wanna lie about corona.
You do all that by thinking that will make us poor.And you love seeing us backtracking. You believe you will be on top once we backtrack.Very stupid mind! So you wanna see all your neighbors look like Somalia? You don't wanna have a rich neighbor? You don't wanna have Singapore next to you?!

Bastards

You are all insane in Tanzania, laden with an inferiority complex.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 4:25pm On Apr 24, 2020
forgiveness:



We are not competing with numbers because we have a strategy. That matters. cool

Besides, as at yesterday we have tested 10,000. 5,000 a day. grin
I get your strategy grin grin If you don't test for corona then you don't have corona!!!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 4:26pm On Apr 24, 2020
By the time Amnesty International is calling your out - you've gone beyond the limit.
Kazikazi:
I don't which world are you living which lacks regulations and media bill.

South Africa which is regarded as having the most free media in the continent, have arrested a man for false information!

But if TZ arrests a guy for false information, that will be a sin.

Why?

Should a media in TZ just publish fake stuff without being held responsible? What kind of proffesion is that where you can just oparate any how? Without laws and guidance?

Am telling you,we will arrest more kenyan media in TZ for trying to destabilize our nation through media.watch out.We will teach you responsibility.
https://ewn.co.za/2020/04/07/wc-man-arrested-for-fake-news-on-coronavirus-testing-kits

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza6(f): 4:27pm On Apr 24, 2020
jl115:

Lets just watch this space wink lets come back to this topic in a couple of years and then I can say" I told you so" cool

Kikikiki....right!. You must think you are talking to someone who hasn't figured out the outcome of this administration already. When are we getting our " free" R350 grin grin. I'm so excited,Serial is a very great leader grin grin.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 4:29pm On Apr 24, 2020
Lionessza6:


LMFAO @ the bolded . I'm glad you said that ,because no other ANC president has ever served the needs of settlers as Rama has, but then again ....... they made him who he is. He is one of the biggest beneficiaries of the BEE scam ,next to Motsepe his brother in law. He went from being a unionist(fighting capitalism ) prior 1990 to being the chief " negotiator " in 1991 grin( where he came out as a multi-millionaire)..a great black business man according to Europeans and black dummies grin. He ended up owning shares in companies owned and controlled by Europeans, and not so long ago ,they loaned him 1 billion rands to bribe his way to the highest office of the land. So I dont understand why the " opposition parties" who are controlled by the same donors would kick against him grin. That's why maimane and mashaba were given the middle finger grin, the DA had the perfect stooge in office.
Look I get it........................Everybody should be poor and nobody should be rich!! radical economic transformation 101!!!! Also fvck they whitey just because!!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:31pm On Apr 24, 2020
Kazikazi:
Amnesty were told by Kenyans!
The time for Kenyans to lie and demonizing us internationally is over!
Just go write your fake reports about Burundi or Somalia but not us!

You started lying about mount Kilimanjaro.You lied about Olduvai gorge. You decided to go ahead and lie about Ebola. You didn't stop.Now you wanna lie about corona.
You do all that by thinking that will make us poor.And you love seeing us backtracking. You believe you will be on top once we backtrack.Very stupid mind! So you wanna see all your neighbors look like Somalia? You don't wanna have a rich neighbor? You don't wanna have Singapore next to you?!

Bastards
grin grin grin.. no we're moving together, we want to see a progressive E.A.C, to be honest E.A is one of the progressive region in Africa as compared to west Africa grin.. the only problem is your dictator.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:34pm On Apr 24, 2020
Lionessza6:


Kikikiki....right!. You must think you are talking to someone who hasn't figured out the outcome of this administration already. When are we getting our " free" R350 grin grin. I'm so excited,Serial is a very great leader grin grin.

Serial Rrrramaposa grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza6(f): 4:37pm On Apr 24, 2020
jl115:

Look I get it........................Everybody should be poor and nobody should be rich!! radical economic transformation 101!!!! Also fvck they whitey just because!!

Lol, no I get . Everybody should live under delusions and believe that they can be as rich as the Ruperts ,Openhemeirs, Mennels and them if they work hard enough grin. Forget about the initial slave labour that made them their wealth. Or maybe we should all strive to be like Serial ; wake up as multi millionaires one day grin. Like true rainbow people grin.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:41pm On Apr 24, 2020
forgiveness:



We are not competing with numbers because we have a strategy. That matters. cool

Besides, as at yesterday we have tested 10,000. 5,000 a day. grin

5000 tests a day you should be at 50 k tests by now.

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