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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by omonnakoda: 4:27pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
9jatriot:I understand you but you are not well informed Universities BY LAW are not branches in the same way as the GTB example you cite and I understand why many are confused because it is government money funding them The matter is one of law. BY LAW specifically the Universities Autonomy Act 2003 Each University is a stand alone autonomous entity under a governing council with clear autonomy specified in the legislation. It is possible for an employer to specify at the time of employment IN CONTRACT that the employer works exclusively for them. Is that in the current contract? That is the kernel of the matter. If it is and any breaches exist the individual universities should take action against specific violators. It is a breach of the autonomy for Abuja to intervene. If government does not like the effect of the Act then they should repeal it not act unilaterally in a way that creates the impression of undermining the Autonomy Act in an autocratic manner 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by erad(m): 4:28pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
jolyment: It doesn't work that way. People should stop trying to have any opinion about things they know nothing about. It's like saying people looking for government jobs shouldn't submit their CV since NYSC has their details and the government owns NYSC. Does that make sense? Protocols exist for a reason. 4 Likes |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by jolyment: 4:29pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
leosahm: Which school? |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by wolfenstein(m): 4:29pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
9jatriot:Now this is well explained and understood, but FG self wey dey collect money from almost every corner nko ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Brunicekid(m): 4:30pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
ejibaba:Are you sure? |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by jolyment: 4:31pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
GreenKalada: MSc. and PhD are needed to teach in universities not BSc. |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Nobody: 4:32pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font] ejibaba: With all due respect sir/ma, no one is paid to castigate the reputation of the lecturers. Some of the lecturers are evil both physically and spiritually. What is the essence of having multiple jobs without the ability to deliver in all. They (lecturers) are the paramount reasons why we have incompetent graduates almost every where in our country today. Not that they don't know what to lecture but multiple commitments will not grant them privilege to perform well. They are molesting students from poor back ground simply because their own children are not even in Nigeria, some are in Private Schools. I will not be surprise to hear that some of the lecturers who died years ago are still receiving monthly salary and that could be one of the reasons why they can never advertise vacancy in universities. Lecturers please submit ur BVN by ur self. Government please after lecturers other federal government employees should follow suit. 2 Likes |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by jolyment: 4:34pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
linearity: No lecturers can be on full-time in more than one school. |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by elipec01(m): 4:34pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
What's the big deals submitting your BVN |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by jolyment: 4:37pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
erad: The reason why lecturers said they won't submit bvn is because FG can use it to migrate them to IPPIS. Mind you, ASUU has told FG to ensure their peculiarities are captured in IPPIS but government said no. 1 Like |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by nuelyoyo(m): 4:37pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
ejibaba:it's not about adjunct and sabbatical as you've said. Its about full time lecturers of a university taking up another full time lecturing Job in another university. I know a lecture who is a doctor in a federal university, he is also a full time lecturer (and HOD) in a state university, all within the same state. Tell me how he can be fully productive in the two jobs he is engaged in. And there are thousands of intelligent jobless people who even have PhD and are willing to take up this jobs. 1 Like |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Ademoore07(m): 4:38pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
sorom4:U mean it is fair to surpress those that are qualified and jobless. I laughed at those supporting ASUU's stance. If u had your education up to at least M.Sc level, u will understand what goes on in the university system. ASUU is more corrupt than the devil himself. Take it or leave it. 5 Likes |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by cybertron88: 4:39pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
Ordinary submit BVN and ASUU is scrambling up and down. Inasmuch as I don't like this government, let's call a spade a spade. A lot of this lecturers are ghost workers collecting full salary in 3 different institutions. No one says u can work elsewhere but ur primary employer should know. It's called other business interest and every employer paying ur bills has the right to this information. It's like you a staff of MTN at the same time your company is the one supplying diesel to thier generators. If they find out without u stating it, that's authomatic sack for conflict of interest. How can the government be paying u in UNIBEN and at the same time paying u in full in UNILAG. U should only earn full pay in one varsity and be paid on contract basis in the other institutions. Hence u aren't entitled to gratuity in more than one institution for the same employer. Many of this ASUU lecturers have even abandoned thier primary institution and and working freely elsewhere even outside d country. We can continue to agitate for senators to cut down allowances but that's an issue that only constitutional amendment would take care of. As for ASUU they just need to come clean cos I don't see this war they are waging as being in the best interest of Nigerian students. 2 Likes |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by edoairways: 4:40pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
GamalNasser:Exactly! |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Nobody: 4:41pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
Can someone please explain to me why a lecturer can't teach in two universities at the same time, or be a university lecturer and collect project outside as an architect or something? |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by edoairways: 4:41pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
xpiranza88:Exactly! |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by omonnakoda: 4:42pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
9jatriot:The FG may Want to know But they have to make laws to facilitate that. I know because we have been militarised for do long many do not understand this The status quo in law is that the FG is a legal person. The FG IS NOT the Lecturers employer even it it were that does not give it the right or authority to know everything it WANTS TO KNOW anymore than any other employer The university is a legal person separate from government. We struggle to grasp this and assume government can do anything it likes With regard to paying research grant in one school etc. That is a market force contractual issue. If UI thinks it is good value for them to pay x to Mr Y that is their issue. It is not a moral issue. If there is any law against that it should be enforced. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by egojiokwu(m): 4:42pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
This is because the government is never serious with IT. Why not get these BVN from banks. If they have not been using BVN to do the needful up till now allowing people to collect multiple salaries, then what's the essence of the BVN that we all have? You don't need the lecturers to provide BVN because banks already have them. All you need to do is to get the account numbers of all federal workers not only lecturers and their corresponding BVN from the banks. Ordinary Excel spreadsheet can filter out duplicate BVN. |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by erad(m): 4:43pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
jolyment: There is a flaw in this argument. A government that has refused to illegally access your BVN without your permission, is it the same government that will illegally deceive you to join a plan you are clearly against? If the government wanted to do that, why not just go all the way and dig out their BVNs without their permission as well. That's what propaganda looks like, it's never rational. 3 Likes |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by atheistandproud(m): 4:44pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
kikero: I disagree. We have lots of lecturers. But there's a caucus at ASUU that have sat on top all the jobs so that people like you or me won't get a chance to even apply. Have you seen the requirements to get a lecturing job? Some of these men want to die in the lecture hall sef. Some have been teaching since before I was born. Leave that thing. 2 Likes |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by edoairways: 4:44pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
kokoA:Excess workload entails teaching more than 30 students. Some lecturers teach up to 4 courses per semester while in their visiting schools it one or two depending on the school. Most of them teach at private universities with less students compare to public universities. |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Sheriman(m): 4:45pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
So in this country we don't have any working body except ASUU ASUU all the time |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Ademoore07(m): 4:46pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
Etuagievin:Oyo state govt requested for all staffs bvn at lautech this year febuary so as to update their database and payroll. They responded positively. 1 Like |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by jolyment: 4:46pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
erad: I understand your point . |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by atheistandproud(m): 4:46pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
cybertron88: Bless you jare. |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by guy222: 4:48pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
nairavsdollars:The question should be what is wrong with lecturers abandoning their primary assignment? Imagin a lecturer attending his/her lectures once or twice in a complete semester as a result of being a visiting lecturer in other university, if this is not wickedness then tell me what it is. If you think one lecturer lecturing in 5 different university is not a degradation of the education system, then i have nothing to do than to respect your opinion. |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Ademoore07(m): 4:49pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
mikeapollo:WHO TOLD U THAT THERE IS SCARCITY OF QUALIFIED INDIVIDUALS. I DOUBT IF U ARE IN NIGERIA. 3 Likes |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Lastanza: 4:50pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
okpalaAnambra:There is nothing wrong in having multiple jobs but in their case, their is something wrong. It's same as doctors in government hospitals operating their own private hospitals. They rarely care much about their government job because it's government job, and many a times normally diverts patients to their private hospitals for property attention and care. Same applies to these lecturers. They have one or two private universities where they work with utmost seriousness and usually care less about their primary employment. They are always not around in their offices or at lectures because they are out there hustling. |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by 9jatriot(m): 4:51pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
Thanks a lot for trying to make it clear but I happen to disagree a bit. If the universities are as autonomous as they want to make us believe, why then do they not set the salary themselves and pay themselves from their IGR? Are you also insinuating that the FG cannot mandate their universities through the VCs to do a screening of the certificate of all staffs (academic and non academic) that they have employed to ensure they meet up with the standard? Are you also insinuating that the FG does not have a right to check all federal universities to ascertain what facilities that are lacking in order to make arrangement to provide for them since as you would have me believe, there is a law that prevents FG from poking into their affairs? omonnakoda: |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by linearity: 4:51pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
omonnakoda: You made a valid point, let’s take the simple scenario of employer vs employee that you have laid out here. If e.g. your current employer (assuming you are in the private sector aka not employer by the Government), ask you to present your BVN as a condition to obtaining your salary, are you saying your employer doesn’t have the right to do that and must obtain the leave of a court? That is not true, even if you run to a court, it will be hard to find any court that will side with you. BVN is a valid law in this country, it was done to check fraud among other things and it is not a burdensome requirement for you to produce one, since by the operation of the law, you already got one....Plus, you may not even have standing to bring the suit, because you can’t provide any damage that will you will legally suffer by producing one. |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by 9jatriot(m): 4:56pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
FG has at one stage said they did not employ ASUU as a body, they employed individual lecturers. If FG has no right to ask for their BVN, what right then does FG have to ask for their account number to pay them. I don't know if you understand my logic here? It is like saying FG cannot ask the lecturers for their tax clearance certificates when even embassies that are not even your employers will demand for these info and they will willingly give it to them. No matter how hard anyone tries to paint it, it is looking more and more like a case of having something to hide. omonnakoda: |
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by afroxyz: 5:00pm On Apr 24, 2020 |
kikero: Bros. We would not end up.with universities lacking lecturers. Other qualified people would apply and get the positions. They are occupying the space of well meaning Nigerians that can contribute to knowledge. |
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