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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 6:10pm On Apr 24, 2020
jl115:
He settled in Rotorua which is on the same Island as Auckland....Either way either Rotorua or Auckland is his so called home town, which ever you choose doesn't make a difference to me!
Rotorua is 270km away from Auckland. They belong to different districts.You are grasping at straws.
Lagos is his hometown. I don't know why this is so important to you?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:11pm On Apr 24, 2020
How can Ecowas be older when EAC was doing stuff nobody is doing in 1960s and 1970s - EAC went into abeyance for 10yrs - and was back - and as always the laggard - TZ is dragging us. All they see with their narrow minds is kenya stealing from them. They don't know what win-win deal looks like. Their inferiority complex is legendary.

Now Nigeria and Benin- how do you even begin to argue? One has 200M people. The other 10M people. You want Benin to protect your borders?Nigeria's job is to ensure legit Benin goods come in and illegit don't. It's NOT BENIN job to reign on Nigerian smugglers.

Now because you're so broke and so incapable - you're unable to tell legit or illegit - so about smash the mosquito with sledgehammer and damage everything.

You know the list of laggards in Africa are well known 1) Nigeria 2) DRC 3) Tanzania - Ethiopia thanks to Meles Zenawi extradited themselves from that shameful group.

obaaderemi:
So all you can do is sacrifice Tanzania as the one sabotaging EAC? grin Tanzanians like everyone else are smarter than Kenyans and can see through your bullshit.

Benin violated ECOWAS trade treaties by allowing unbridled smuggling into Nigeria and that's why the border closure was effected after several warnings.

Bottom line: ECOWAS is far older and more organized than your backward eac. You learnt from us and can learn more.
But then, how can a semiliterate Kenyan like you with little knowledge of interregional trade and politics understand such things? They are beyond your level of intellect.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:11pm On Apr 24, 2020
you are really desperate
rvp20182:
Why not just accept that your scre.wed up when it comes to HIV-AIDS. If Ghana is your new gold standard - then no wonder you're going down.

What Mbeki did is unforgivable...

He needs to be taken back to Robben Island. Magufuli is another fool busy denying COVID-19.


According to Guardian here - Mbeki Aids denial 'caused 300,000 deaths'
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/nov/26/aids-south-africa

South African president's refusal to accept medical evidence of virus was major obstacle to providing medicine, say Harvard researchers

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:12pm On Apr 24, 2020
Shma:
in a nutshell,
Chinese are the best project managers. smiley followed closely by Japanese.

grin grin grin grin

Chinese are the worst project managers

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:14pm On Apr 24, 2020
rvp20182:
How can Ecowas be older when EAC was doing stuff nobody is doing in 1960s and 1970s - EAC went into abeyance for 10yrs - and was back - and as always the laggard - TZ is dragging us.

You know the list of laggards in Africa are well known 1) Nigeria 2) DRC 3) Tanzania - Ethiopia thanks to Meles Zenawi extradited themselves from that shameful group.

1960 all EAC member except Ethiopia were colonies

if we are going that far, then ECOWAS started in 1860

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 6:15pm On Apr 24, 2020
Austine1212:

Maths has never been your thing
I told him the same thing days ago.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:18pm On Apr 24, 2020
Just30:


grin grin grin grin

Chinese are the worst project managers
in Kenya China are the best, China are holding huge project across the globe, that is something undebatable. wink

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:19pm On Apr 24, 2020
Kid, I see you're back. Are your parents aware you've soiled your pants and you need a diaper change? Kenya was last to gain independence in 1963. I think EAC was formed in 1967.
Just30:
1960 all EAC member except Ethiopia were colonies

if we are going that far, then ECOWAS started in 1860

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:22pm On Apr 24, 2020
Shma:
in Kenya China are the best, China are holding huge project across the globe, that is something undebatable. wink
here, we hardly give them road contracts because they are terrible

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:23pm On Apr 24, 2020
rvp20182:
Kid, I see you're back. Are your parents aware you've soiled your pants and you need a diaper change? Kenya was last to gain independence in 1963. I think EAC was formed in 1967.
EAC was formed 1999

you dont have to think, you just have to know

Your brain is not capable of thinking .....dumb kid

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Horus(m): 6:24pm On Apr 24, 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th9EP3JIcwY

COVID-19 Vaccines to be tested in Kenya

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza6(f): 6:25pm On Apr 24, 2020
chrisooblog:
you make a good point but ethnic politics not being unique to us but ours has been especially worsened with religion thrown into the mix. for me personally I think a benevolent dictatorship like that of a
yin Kwan yeung or Jerry rawlings is what Nigeria needs in the short term because democracy as we know it has given too much space to diverse selfish elements who disguise their message in ethnic rethoric to deceive. for SA you were lucky to have someone like Mandela who was able to the Unite the Blacks against a common enemy in quotes same with Tanzania and Rwanda to some extent.
In Nigeria we have such leaders but unfortunately the current political establishment would not allow such people rise to the top positions.


The bolded is also the case with SA,but with us you can replace the ethnic rhetoric with fake pan Africanism and formal economic participation.

Mandela didn't unite SAns against any common enemy in my view ,Mandela joined the ANC and the struggle, he didn't start it. The people were United by common ideology,something we lost for sometime but are now getting it back.

Well ,it's like that even here, people who fight against the establishment are either killed or victimized ( name tarnished by the media or constant harassment by international N.G.Os). But down here ,we refuse to see that as normal,the fighting never stops even with all the impediments,disappointments& infiltration.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 6:26pm On Apr 24, 2020
lol.....this really sell Ghana out in 2020. . i learnt they now has lawyer and manager in kenya....


they gonna charge you in dollar i guess...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmbFuKbjs-g

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:26pm On Apr 24, 2020
On second thought, I see the dung flies led by Obaboon and Vax are swirling around menacingly, so how about I leave you to it and see you soon.
Just30:
EAC was formed 1999

you dont have to think, you just have to know

Your brain is not capable of thinking .....dumb kid

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 6:27pm On Apr 24, 2020
Horus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9NNh05usOc

COVID-19 Vaccines to be tested in Kenya
the country is broke . they might have received some cash for that.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:31pm On Apr 24, 2020
rvp20182:
On second thought, I see the dung flies led by Obaboon and Vax are swirling around menacingly, so how about I leave you to it and see you soon.
good for you dumb dumb

go and formulate another wild guess theories

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza6(f): 6:32pm On Apr 24, 2020
chrisooblog:
also don't forget that Nigeria is one of the most diverse countries on the continent when talking about different ethnic groups. The only other country that comes close is DRC and we all know how they are. Even homogeneous countries like those in North Africa have experienced conflict at one time or the other so our situation is not such a surprise. I'm optimistic that one day Nigeria's political business and economical elite it's in our common interest to get things right. You might say it's the crude oil that has held us together which is true to some extent but there are other factors in which we have a commonality that doesn't get exploited to the fullest.

Basically you think your main problem is religious and ethnic differences?.

@ the bolded, I think crude oil is actually what has caused a lot of your problems. It has made you a lot more vulnerable to outside forces who are good at playing divide and conquer. Having studied Nigeria a bit ,even during my visit there about 8 months back, I could see that you have so many misunderstandings that could easily be exploited to cause chaos & distress.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 6:32pm On Apr 24, 2020
Kazikazi:
Is this the way u build houses in your country?
This is Kakamega,kenya

A mud house in this day n age?

Hahahaha Kenya Architects are the best in the world..simply world class grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 6:37pm On Apr 24, 2020
Kazikazi:
Kenyans fighting for food aid during this corona pandemic!
Hunger isn't a joke.who cares about corona while the stomach is empty?


Just this few weeks lockdown and Kenyans are already out there to the world dining what they know best which is begging for food aid....
Lol see the poor hungry citizens jostling for mere grains grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 6:41pm On Apr 24, 2020
davefurn:
I laugh tire grin grin grin cheesy[color=#990000][/color]

Lol just take a god look at the shabby, insalubrious facility he escaped from...smh

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 6:42pm On Apr 24, 2020
davefurn:
But this is serious ohhhhh.....why is Kenyan government doing like this.....how can u be paying for d confinement, and d hygiene there being poor............Na wetin BBC talk Sha, don't know whether it's d truth


It is true...I was speechless when I heard about that ..
Kenyan govt are broke and want to tax the hell out of their hungry impoverished citizens to pay up the money the looted

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 6:42pm On Apr 24, 2020
rvp20182:
How can Ecowas be older when EAC was doing stuff nobody is doing in 1960s and 1970s - EAC went into abeyance for 10yrs - and was back - and as always the laggard - TZ is dragging us. All they see with their narrow minds is kenya stealing from them. They don't know what win-win deal looks like. Their inferiority complex is legendary.

Now Nigeria and Benin- how do you even begin to argue? One has 200M people. The other 10M people. You want Benin to protect your borders?Nigeria's job is to ensure legit Benin goods come in and illegit don't. It's NOT BENIN job to reign on Nigerian smugglers.

Now because you're so broke and so incapable - you're unable to tell legit or illegit - so about smash the mosquito with sledgehammer and damage everything.

You know the list of laggards in Africa are well known 1) Nigeria 2) DRC 3) Tanzania - Ethiopia thanks to Meles Zenawi extradited themselves from that shameful group.

TZ is not dragging you! If you see us dragging you,just ask Somalia and Eritrea to join you!
For us,We are currently leading 16 SADC nations.Mind you,mind you,none of those 16 is starving.

And again,Mauritius a member of SADC is so fond of Tanzania.Mauritius wants a union with Tanzania!
You see that?! We have too many options! If we tell Mauritius to be a single nation with TZ,they will quickly agree. They want it.

https://www.namibian.com.na/162365/archive-read/Tanzania-Mauritius-in-joint-tourism-promotion-drive

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chrisooblog: 6:44pm On Apr 24, 2020
Lionessza6:


Basically you think your main problem is religious and ethnic differences?.

@ the bolded, I think crude oil is actually what has caused a lot of your problems. It has made you a lot more vulnerable to outside forces who are good at playing divide and conquer. Having studied Nigeria a bit ,even during my visit there about 8 months back, I could see that you have so many misunderstandings that could easily be exploited to cause chaos & distress.
your second paragraph is nothing but the truth. I can't tell you how much this frustrates and bothers me a lot there are a few people like me who see the bigger picture but unfortunately our voices get easily crowded out

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 6:44pm On Apr 24, 2020
rvp20182:
Ghana definitely doesn't - obviously Kenya cities are mostly planned. This is your holy grail - the banana island overlooking the two towers of Eko City. West Africa has a long way to go.
Which of the Kenya cities are planned. LMAO, the biggest joke of the century grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 6:44pm On Apr 24, 2020
samorobo:


Hahahaha Kenya Architects are the best in the world..simply world class grin
How can someone opts for a mud house in this age? Pure madness. Poverty of highest order

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 6:45pm On Apr 24, 2020
Kazikazi:
TZ is not dragging you! If you see us dragging you,just ask Somalia and Eritrea to join you!
For us,We are currently leading 16 SADC nations.Mind you,mind you,none of those 16 is starving.

And again,Mauritius a member of SADC is so fond of Tanzania.Mauritius wants a union with Tanzania!
You see that?! We have too many options! If we tell Mauritius to be a single nation with TZ,they will quickly agree. They want it.

https://www.namibian.com.na/162365/archive-read/Tanzania-Mauritius-in-joint-tourism-promotion-drive

It would be best if you left the union and focus on SADC. That would be ideal for everyone.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:47pm On Apr 24, 2020
Lionessza, kikuyu1

Cc. Jln115
grin

“We deliberately spread AIDS in South Africa”

In a shocking confession, made on camera in a new documentary released last month, a former member of South Africa’s Apartheid-era intelligence service says that the Aids virus, and other diseases, were deliberately spread among the population in an effort to kill off as many blacks as possible. His confession, considered just the tip of the iceberg, has reignited the simmering debate about the whole phenomenon of Aids in Africa.

Sources in South Africa say SAIMR was linked to the country’s notorious chemical and biological warfare (CBW) programme headed by Dr Wouter Basson, a programme which Apartheid racists used as a cover to kill black people in South Africa and beyond or do them serious harm. The racists’ ‘operational area’ was what used to be called the ‘Frontline States’ (now known simply as the SADC region). We covered Dr Basson’s operations in detail in our 2001 November Edition.

South Africa’s CBW programme also had links with Rhodesia’s, and the pair did a lot of harm to black Africans, including spreading cholera and other dangerous diseases in the region, and topping it up with HIV/Aids experimentation.

And it also claims the group’s then leader had a racist, apocalyptic obsession with HIV/Aids. Keith Maxwell wrote about a plague he hoped would decimate black populations, cement white rule, and bring back conservative religious mores, according to papers collected by the film-makers.

Maxwell had no medical qualifications but ran clinics in poor, mostly black areas around Johannesburg while claiming to be a doctor. That gave him the opportunity for sinister experimentation, Jones says in the film, Cold Case Hammarskjöld.
“What easier way to get a guinea pig than [when] you live in an apartheid system?” Jones says in the film. “Black people have got no rights, they need medical treatment. There’s a white ‘philanthropist’ coming in and saying, ‘You know, I’ll open up these clinics and I’ll treat you.’ And meantime [he is] actually the wolf in sheep’s clothing.”

Documents collected by the film-makers appear to show that Maxwell’s private views were very different from his public persona. The papers suggest a ghoulish delight in the advent of an epidemic. In one he writes: “[South Africa] may well have one man, one vote with a white majority by the year 2000. Religion in its conservative, traditional form will return. Abortion on demand, abuse of drugs, and the other excesses of the 1960s, 70s and 80s will have no place in the post-Aids world.”

The papers read like the fever dream of a man who aspired to be South Africa’s Josef Mengele. There are detailed, if sometimes garbled, accounts of how he thought the HIV virus could be isolated, propagated and used to target black Africans.

What is less clear is whether he had the expertise or funds to implement his nightmarish visions. Jones, the former SAIMR member, claims he did. “We were involved in Mozambique, spreading the Aids virus through medical conditions,” he says.

“The topic of Aids research came up several times, quite loosely in conversations, I never put two and two together,” Feil says in the film. Instead Dagmar asked Karl to go with her to church, so she could “make right with God”. Weeks later she was dead.

https://newafricanmagazine.com/18285/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/27/south-african-intelligence-officers-spread-aids-black-communities

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 6:48pm On Apr 24, 2020
Just30:
all Ghana subhurbs are well planned with roads well laid out and tarred

Get there first then we can discuss

grin grin grin grin

Planned cities dont end up building an amalgamation of terrible slums and huge untarred roads

I wonder the planned cities the idiot is talking about cheesy grin there is nothing planned in Kenya.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 6:49pm On Apr 24, 2020
kabe1:
Nigerian Air Force C-130 converted to a flying hospital/trauma room.

A sane country with the interest of her citizens at heart

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 6:50pm On Apr 24, 2020
TayserMahri:


the kenyan media in your country is usually trying to report on what tanzanians dont dare to report. you should be thankful. Some of those kenyans look at things an wonder how the hell is no one reporting on such important matters? Imagine by now you wouldnt know there are many cases of corona in Tanzania if not for these WONDERFUL Kenyan newspapers. Your own media houses are afraid to report just in case they report and the guy decides to jail someone. Show me top Tanzanian newspapers reporting covid-19 cases on the front pages.

https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/news/ea/Coronavirus-Tanzania-cases-swell-to-170/4552908-5529414-2j08j/index.html
https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/news/ea/Covid19-Tanzania-cases-soar-to-254/4552908-5530080-15frdpy/index.html
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/africa/Covid-19--Tanzania-s-cases-rise-to-284/1066-5531184-mrc7bk/index.html
Corona news are everywhere in TZ medias.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 6:51pm On Apr 24, 2020
TayserMahri:
Lionessza, kikuyu1

Cc. Jln115
grin

“We deliberately spread AIDS in South Africa”

In a shocking confession, made on camera in a new documentary released last month, a former member of South Africa’s Apartheid-era intelligence service says that the Aids virus, and other diseases, were deliberately spread among the population in an effort to kill off as many blacks as possible. His confession, considered just the tip of the iceberg, has reignited the simmering debate about the whole phenomenon of Aids in Africa.

Sources in South Africa say SAIMR was linked to the country’s notorious chemical and biological warfare (CBW) programme headed by Dr Wouter Basson, a programme which Apartheid racists used as a cover to kill black people in South Africa and beyond or do them serious harm. The racists’ ‘operational area’ was what used to be called the ‘Frontline States’ (now known simply as the SADC region). We covered Dr Basson’s operations in detail in our 2001 November Edition.

South Africa’s CBW programme also had links with Rhodesia’s, and the pair did a lot of harm to black Africans, including spreading cholera and other dangerous diseases in the region, and topping it up with HIV/Aids experimentation.

And it also claims the group’s then leader had a racist, apocalyptic obsession with HIV/Aids. Keith Maxwell wrote about a plague he hoped would decimate black populations, cement white rule, and bring back conservative religious mores, according to papers collected by the film-makers.

Maxwell had no medical qualifications but ran clinics in poor, mostly black areas around Johannesburg while claiming to be a doctor. That gave him the opportunity for sinister experimentation, Jones says in the film, Cold Case Hammarskjöld.
“What easier way to get a guinea pig than [when] you live in an apartheid system?” Jones says in the film. “Black people have got no rights, they need medical treatment. There’s a white ‘philanthropist’ coming in and saying, ‘You know, I’ll open up these clinics and I’ll treat you.’ And meantime [he is] actually the wolf in sheep’s clothing.”

Documents collected by the film-makers appear to show that Maxwell’s private views were very different from his public persona. The papers suggest a ghoulish delight in the advent of an epidemic. In one he writes: “[South Africa] may well have one man, one vote with a white majority by the year 2000. Religion in its conservative, traditional form will return. Abortion on demand, abuse of drugs, and the other excesses of the 1960s, 70s and 80s will have no place in the post-Aids world.”

The papers read like the fever dream of a man who aspired to be South Africa’s Josef Mengele. There are detailed, if sometimes garbled, accounts of how he thought the HIV virus could be isolated, propagated and used to target black Africans.

What is less clear is whether he had the expertise or funds to implement his nightmarish visions. Jones, the former SAIMR member, claims he did. “We were involved in Mozambique, spreading the Aids virus through medical conditions,” he says.

“The topic of Aids research came up several times, quite loosely in conversations, I never put two and two together,” Feil says in the film. Instead Dagmar asked Karl to go with her to church, so she could “make right with God”. Weeks later she was dead.

https://newafricanmagazine.com/18285/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/27/south-african-intelligence-officers-spread-aids-black-communities

You didn't know? Duhhh!

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