LordReed:


Your denalism won't make the evidence disappear. They'll continue to find more of it.

Your denial won't make God stop existing either. Now you see it goes both ways.

aadoiza:


So those who are not scientists don't use their senses? You lot just can stop making up silly counter-critisism punch lines.

No one said "those who are not scientists don't use their senses", aadoiza, perhaps seek to understand before embarking on juvenile insults.

Science (from the Latin word scientia, meaning "knowledge" ) is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions.

We read of Jesus going about healing those with dim senses. It is so you may use those senses to systematically build and organize knowledge, and form testable explanations and predictions.

budaatum:

No one said "those who are not scientists don't use their senses", aadoiza, perhaps seek to understand before embarking on juvenile insults.

It's you and your fellow "band-wagonists" who should stop making contemptible punch lines just because others disagree with a theory you lot hold in shocking endearment.

Science (from the Latin word scientia, meaning "knowledge" ) is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions.

[s]We read of Jesus going about healing those with dim senses. It is so you may use those senses to systematically build and organize knowledge, and form testable explanations and predictions.[/s]

Nonsense, 100%.
Your must have devolved from your higher-consciousness animal ancestors as has your mythical jesus from YHWH.

Little wonder una oyinbo lords dey call una black monkeys.

aadoiza:

It's you and your fellow "band-wagonists"

You are far too rude and ignorant for me to waste time on so I plead the wise words below.

shadeyinka:

It is a perfect design. The multiple stages was incorporated to make efficient use of fuel and minimize weight. It wasnt done because it's an imperfect design. It actually is the most efficient fuel burning design.


You still don't understand design except by your speculation.
Perfect design doesn't have to follow your whims. If we go by your rules of "perfect design", all animals would be as intelligent as human beings, all animals would be as strong as an elephant, all animals would be as fast the cheetah, your perfect design will incorporate all animals being omnivores etc.

Can you see how perfect your world would have been?


Sorry, I have a car yet still use two Bicycles. It's not all about poverty. It's about diversity, it's about functionality. Sometimes, my bicycle is more useful to me than my car

Your argument of touch screen rather than buttons are to my favour. Both of them have their place in electronics. It's called design and egonometrics.




Ask the designer if you want to know why he designed some animals weak and slow while others are strong and fast.

If every animal was optimized for your kind of perfection, would there exist the food chain?

On earth, if you are to use liquid or solid state rocket, as a perfect designer, I will use multiple stages. For this is the most efficient in terms of energy expenditure and cost.

You didn't answer my question!
Evolution should have made the male Octopus twice the size of the female Octopus and carnibalism during copulation would have been extint. Why has evolution kept mute?

You can read and digest this, tintingz.

aadoiza:

That's not selfishness. He's just showing his mightiness in the many possibilities

Yes the mightiness of giving children cancer, more like a sadistic psychopath.

aadoiza:

You can read and digest this, tintingz.

Digestive biscuits ni

tintingz:
Digestive biscuits ni

Unserious element

tintingz:
Yes the mightiness of giving children cancer, more like a sadistic psychopath.

Why don't you present your proof the Almighty God gave anyone cancer. I'm certain you're hanging covid19 blame on God as well. You people like making unfounded claims upandan. Claims like your ancestors were mindless animals, nothingness can engineer something. Nonsense and ingredients.

budaatum:


You are far too rude and ignorant for me to waste time on so I plead the wise words below.

No, I'm not, just far too cute and arrogant for you, my beloved.
Ramadan is making me soft, and you know it .

tintingz:
Yes the mightiness of giving children cancer, more like a sadistic psychopath.

The hate in your heart. This post reeks of anger more than logic

aadoiza:

Why don't you present your proof the Almighty God gave anyone cancer. I'm certain you're hanging covid19 blame on God as well. You people like making unfounded claims upandan. Claims like your ancestors were mindless animals, nothingness can engineer something. Nonsense and ingredients.

1. God destined everything, he has destined people of some illness.

2. God create diseases, he's the creator of everything.

3. When God is angry, he's said to use plagues.

Rilwayne001:


The hate in your heart. This post reeks of anger more than logic

Let see if it's anger and not logic. Tell me which is not correct in your beliefs.

God is the creator, he created everything including cancer.

God is omniscient, he sees the future and destined it.

God knew some children will have cancer long before creation but he went ahead to create them with cancer.

You see why God is a sadistic psychopath?

aadoiza:

Your denial won't make God stop existing either. Now you see it goes both ways.

Except one of us can consistently provide evidence while the other will do anything but provide evidence.

Rilwayne001:


The hate in your heart. This post reeks of anger more than logic

Really? Please what justification in your view is there for your Allah standing by watching babies get birthed with all manner of horrible diseases and disabilities?

tintingz:


1. God destined everything, he has destined people of some illness.

2. God create diseases, he's the creator of everything.

3. When God is angry, he's said to use plagues.

1. Whenever you try crossing an expressway to don't look at the traffic coming from your left and right, sogbo, just cross and count your destiny, and forget about using your brain.

2. I trust also you will be crediting God for making evolution a reality

3. And God is very angry right now, and you know this because He's in your house. SMH

LordReed:


Except one of us can consistently provide evidence while the other will do anything but provide evidence.

Stop deceiving yourself, bros. Where are the proofs of evolution? There are no proofs of evolution in human history. If there were humans wouldn't have waited till just a few centuries ago for a yiddish psycho to inform them they once had animal cousins in their ranks. Abeg joor.

aadoiza:

Stop deceiving yourself, bros. Where are the proofs of evolution? There are no proofs of evolution in human history. If there were humans wouldn't have waited till just a few centuries ago for a yiddish psycho to inform them they once had animal cousins in their ranks. Abeg joor.

There we go, anything but actually produce evidence. Will you be providing evidence for your god claims sometime soon?

LordReed:


There we go, anything but actually produce evidence. Will you be providing evidence for your god claims sometime soon?

I don't think you people know how ridiculous you sound when you claim a natural process occurred, or is taking place but you don't have a concrete proof that this natural process is still on going save some scribblings by a confused lot. Wetin I dey talk self?
How can you not have a concrete proof for a physical, natural process? How can there be no history on the fact humans shared ancestory with animals? Such an important history could not have been lost. Laye laye.

Why you believe it will be any easier finding concrete proof for a spiritual entity than a physical process is not even clear to me.

aadoiza:

I don't think you people know how ridiculous you sound when you claim a natural process occurred, or is taking place but you don't have a concrete proof that this natural process is still on going save some scribblings by a confused lot. Wetin I dey talk self?
How can you not have a concrete proof for a physical, natural process? How can there be no history on the fact humans shared ancestory with animals? Such an important history could not have been lost. Laye laye.

Why you believe it will be any easier finding concrete proof for a spiritual entity than a physical process is not even clear to me.

Ok so you don't have any proof for your god claims then?

LordReed:


Ok so you don't have any proof for your god claims then?

You don't need proof for God's existence. All you need is faith.

aadoiza:

You don't need proof for God's existence. All you need is faith.

Ok I guess we are getting somewhere now. What is faith and how does one get it?

LordReed:


Ok I guess we are getting somewhere now. What is faith and how does one get it?

Same way you developed faith in evolution. It's not so hard, is it?

aadoiza:

Same way you developed faith in evolution. It's not so hard, is it?

What is faith? How do you know I have it?

LordReed:


Ok I guess we are getting somewhere now. What is faith and how does one get it?

faith is totally believe in a system without seeing results first
Which is against the general saying : seeing is believing
Faith is believing is seeing

Try this with faith: wake you 12am
Pray this single pray for like 30mins - 1hour
Don't allow any doubt or don't see yourself that you are foolish because faith makes someone look stupid but the results makes you wise
Just be saying the blood of Jesus set me free from Every unknown bondage
Just 30mins let say 12-:12:30

Pls don't question me sir, until you try it and no results

zyzxx:
faith is totally believe in a system without seeing results first
Which is against the general saying : seeing is believing
Faith is believing is seeing

Try this with faith: wake you 12am
Pray this single pray for like 30mins - 1hour
Don't allow any doubt or don't see yourself that you are foolish because faith makes someone look stupid but the results makes you wise
Just be saying the blood of Jesus set me free from Every unknown bondage
Just 30mins let say 12-:12:30

Pls don't question me sir, until you try it and no results

LoL, who told you I didn't do these things as a Christian? Bwahahahahaha!

aadoiza:

I don't think you people know how ridiculous you sound when you claim a natural process occurred, or is taking place but you don't have a concrete proof that this natural process is still on going save some scribblings by a confused lot. Wetin I dey talk self?

Yes, "Wetin u dey talk self?" You can't possibly be attacking the Bible, can you? Or you just don't know how ridiculous you sound comparing an Almighty God that you only know by some scribblings - though not of a confused lot - to a natural process of evolution?

I'd say you need to evolve, but you might understand, "let Jesus into your life", better, though they both mean the same thing.

aadoiza:

You don't need proof for God's existence. All you need is faith.

Rubbish, and utter stupidity!

You can't, or shouldn't, have faith in a thing you don't even know exists! And to be honest with you, if you don't have evidence for the existence of the Almighty God, you should query what it is your faith is in, or ask God to open your eyes so you can see the evidence of God's existence.

budaatum:

Evolution is a fact and a theory. It has happened and will continue to happen.

As for what "the scripture teaches", I think you mean, 'what one understands', since its understanding, along with our capabilities to understand it, evolve over time, as Jesus taught when he said he "did not come to abolish the law", but to evolve it, which you should be doing too if only you had read the book properly, which you very clearly haven't. If you had, you'd have understood how God evolves into Jesus Christ .

Evolution is just a theory!
It isn't a fact.

If the earth has 100's of billions of species which are all constrained according to some certain rules, it is expected that several will look alike even though they are not of the same specie. Proponents of evolution are hiding over the phrase "100's of millions" of years.

The "evolution" of the computer is more about design than each kind of computer morphing into another kind over a hypothetical 100's of years.

Correction:
Jesus said: I have not come to abolish the law but to "fulfill it" or "to confirm it" or the "accomplish it". In other words, Jesus is the fulfillment of the law!

God evolved into Jesus Christ?
I still wonder where you got that.

tintingz:
We're still saying same thing. You just repeated what i said in another way.

Ok, what happens after science discover more advanced way to travel space, will this rocket today be a perfect design?

Isn't there a world already with this in Abrahamic Religions?

There's already a perfect world depicted by Religious people in afterlife, why do they think this world is perfectly designed?

I think you have smuggled into our discussion the word "perfect design" whereas, all I've spoken about is that creation is by design.

Then your argument was that if the universe was by design, "it must be a bad design. You then used the example of the octopus, the praying mantis as example of bad design .

My counter argument was that if a design has fulfilled it's PURPOSE, it is a good design..

The universe will only be perfect when SIN and its effect is totally eliminated. And we know that there is coming a time for the rebirth and renewal of the universe. Until that time, everything is God made is good. Only God Himself for now has the nature of Perfection!

tintingz:

Because they want to be careful igniting the firearm and secondly touch screen can easily crack and misfunction.

Good is different from perfect.

I'm not talking about bad or good design, I'm talking about a perfect design.

In other words, the fact that keypad buttons exist in the age of touch screen is not about bad design but purpose. If the purpose of a design is accomplished, the design it this very successful.

tintingz:

Why do I need toilet paper if I'm not a perfectly designed? Why is the toilet paper disposable if it's not perfectly design? I've a perfect theory where toilet paper has a way of breaking or dissolving any particles on it and dry it off and it's good to use again.

Don't be surprised when we have reusable toilet papers in the future.

Purpose doesn't even have any purpose. Why does species produce and die? To what end purpose or goal?

The fact that toilet rolls are disposable is part of design: just as death is part of design.

tintingz:

I'm not a God and I'm not running after any perfect world, I'm just attacking theists claim on perfect design.

Good.

How? Does evolution have some sentient mind of it own?

Perfectness is relative!
Relative to what man can do the universe and the laws and the species are perfectly made.
Relative to God, nothing is perfect: things can be good.

Can one add to anything perfect to make it better? The answer is a big no!

LordReed:


LoL, who told you I didn't do these things as a Christian? Bwahahahahaha!

As a Christian? Which kind Christian?

zyzxx:
As a Christian? Which kind Christian?

I was a Christian till 2018.