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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rationalhuman(m): 6:05pm On Apr 25, 2020
Not entirely true, power Comes from Logical approach applied with rational Minds, You have given example of India and China, You must know when Britishers came just then China and India accounted for 82% of global GDP Both were far far richer then Entire Europe. So entire Europe was nothing against India or china. so here it goes.
1. Example 1 India: There was no government officials with British ships for 10 years, They were all Traders later organized entity British East India Company. Later they realized immense opportunity by implementing logical approach of Divide and Conquer, There were 8 big and 17 small kingdoms at that time. While Indian empires were rotten with several religious mindsets.

2. partially same can be applied to China as well.

Remember Europe was so mesmerized by India`s Wealth, Trade goods that Europeans were dying to find shortest sea routes to India. (Coulumbus was on rout to find India as well instead find out America).

So your point of wealth was nullified, Its practical approach and science that both China and India lost interest at later stage and went for religion instead.

We should definitely learn from this, only then we can have few hopes for this continent.

rvp20182:
The biggest states of Africa - DRC, Sudan, NIgeria, and Ethiopia - are so messed up - having a large country seem a disadvantage - if you don't invest in infrastructure. Look at DRC - about 5 times size of kenya - maybe 10 times Ghana - but with barely any infrastructure - for someone in the east of DRC - they have to fly to west.

What Africa need is to bridge it's infrastructure deficit - and then build transnational infrastructure - AU instead of talking - should be building a highway from Cairo to Capetown - from Dakar to Mogadishu -

And the focus should be Intra-trade - and that will eventually improve our fortunes.

Power doesn't come from large country or large population. It comes from MONEY. WEALTH. The UK is small island and yet colonized giants like China India and etc.


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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 6:07pm On Apr 25, 2020
samorobo:


Honestly this things irks me...African leaders can be very stupid,selfish and shortsighted...

Greedy. Greedy. Greedy they are.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 6:08pm On Apr 25, 2020
Shma:
another joke at bolded grin.. stupidity...
Sammy, what are your saying. Can you please elaborate,?
Don't embarrass your self girl.vaxx will only do you favour by changing the topic grin, I don't thing he'll read these jumbled writing grin

Is this another foolish silent scheme of yours to try acting like you've gat something in that organ floating aimlessly right inside your cranium grin..stupid woman you don't have to prove yourself to Sammy...he already know you are an empty cheerleading idiot ; devoid of common sense in reasoning let one comprehending...

The fact that you can emboldened that reasonable fact out shows you are an idiot and complete disgrace to what ever educational institution that produced you...

Like they say in Swahili "I Tema on you" grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 6:11pm On Apr 25, 2020
Lionessza6:


LMFAO, thank you very much baas. This country would be hell without you people grin. Diversity is our strength,as long as everything stays as it is grin. I didn't realise I was so negative before watching this movie ,thanks for fixing me and my outlook cheesy. I now know that one day I will be like Oom Anton Rupee cheesy grin. baie dankie Kobus grin grin


Honestly your sarcasm mind taunting funny...you will kill that you guys lad grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:14pm On Apr 25, 2020
Logical approach applied with rational Minds smiley smiley you must be a snake oil salesman. Britain was first nation in the world to industrialize and out of it - they made tonnes of money - and all things money can buy - including power, weapons and etc. What started as small workshops in city of Birmingham would allowed the Britsh to rule the world. Money is what speaks.
rationalhuman:
Not entirely true, power Comes from Logical approach applied with rational Minds, You have given example of India and China, You must know when Britishers came just then China and India accounted for 82% of global GDP Both were far far richer then Entire Europe. So entire Europe was nothing against India or china. so here it goes.
1. Example 1 India: There was no government officials with British ships for 10 years, They were all Traders later organized entity British East India Company. Later they realized immense opportunity by implementing logical approach of Divide and Conquer, There were 8 big and 17 small kingdoms at that time. While Indian empires were rotten with several religious mindsets.

2. partially same can be applied to China as well.

Remember Europe was so mesmerized by India`s Wealth, Trade goods that Europeans were dying to find shortest sea routes to India. (Coulumbus was on rout to find India as well instead find out America).

So your point of wealth was nullified, Its practical approach and science that both China and India lost interest at later stage and went for religion instead.

We should definitely learn from this, only then we can have few hopes for this continent.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 6:16pm On Apr 25, 2020
samorobo:


The thing is if Africa was united like one big country with visionary leaders we would equally do what they are doing..they are leveraging on our weakness...

Do you know Africa PPP combined is more than India a country of 1.3bn souls despite having one of the weakest shabby infastructures with derisive economic policies...that should automatically place us a the third country with the largest PPP behind China...and would have been if Africa was a country despite the underdevelopment...now ask yourself what will happen if it was developed..



We just don't know how to fix this. What is the medicine for illiteracy? Even those we had as professors today have no idea about this. And when they know, they will become selfish.

Africa has it all! That is what's more dissapointing

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:18pm On Apr 25, 2020
samorobo:


Is this another foolish silent scheme of yours to try acting like you've gat something in that organ floating aimlessly right inside your cranium grin..stupid woman you don't have to prove yourself to Sammy...he already know you are an empty cheerleading idiot ; devoid of common sense in reasoning let one comprehending...

The fact that you can emboldened that reasonable fact out shows you are an idiot and complete disgrace to what ever educational institution that produced you...

Like they say in Swahili "I Tema on you" grin
another well planned fabricated mundane tantrum from dim-witted slowpoke grin..
After disparaging a woman with her silly tongue-tied bullshit she logged out for a few minutes to download cranium to bombard me with it grin grin..
Am still laughing. grin
I emboldened those infinitesimal hogwash which you took your entire time to come up so that you don't deceive your fellow dumb colleagues. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:19pm On Apr 25, 2020
ednited:


Greedy. Greedy. Greedy they are.

This level of greed ? grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:20pm On Apr 25, 2020
rvp20182:
Logical approach applied with rational Minds smiley smiley you must be a snake oil salesman. Britain was first nation in the world to industrialize and out of it - they made tonnes of money - and all things money can buy - including power, weapons and etc. What started as small workshops in city of Birmingham would allowed the Britsh to rule the world. Money is what speaks.
thought I should leave this here. cheesy
The real African mentality., But am glad people are walking up. smiley

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:25pm On Apr 25, 2020
Don't buy into such BS that romanticize Africa history. Africa was very poor, very sickly, and just out there fighting each other like bunch of animals. This kind of BS include literature like "How Europe undeveloped Africa by Walter Rodney". You want to see how Africa was - go the many remote communities that remain untouched by modernity. You'll find many in Africa.

What developed Europe was 1) Industrialisation and 2) International Trade & exchange. What underdeveloped Africa was basically getting cut off from modernity and remaining off-line -off-grid - and largely remote - mostly due to geographical issues.

Now we really have no excuse not to develop and catch up....but of course, development is not instant coffee - it's like turning a large ship - it may appear like nothing is moving - while a lot is happening. Africa is doing great - and we just need to sustain this. There are few laggard dragging us down...Nigeria being the topmost.

Shma:
thought I should leave this here. cheesy
The real African mentality., But am glad people are walking up. smiley

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chrisooblog: 6:28pm On Apr 25, 2020
samorobo:


Lol @ ist bolded and you think the Chinese would be any better...as much I dislike white for their racist attitude I dare say they are better off than the Chinese...look a white man hate black true but when they go about scheming their devilish plan they ensure they do so behind close doors and later acts as saintS with their sanctimonious B.S.(example see IMF and World bank)...but you see the Chinese,they would haved fvcked you from behind properly and still come to your face to brag about so you can know it right down to your deepest sense how vunerable you are to them...I mean we've seen what they recently did to Africans in China whilst they are living large and comfortable on the African continent despite their illegal, criminal hidden business..to the Chinese a black man at worst an African is regarded as a person with the lowest IQ..... America can't just wake up and start doing thesame on blackS despite hating our presence there...
We've seen this Chinese idiot maltreat fellow African in their places of work all because they employed them ON THIS SAME continent of ours....I have guzzled tons of images and video of Chinese mocking black skin men and children...just hop on a train in China and watch everyone one of them flee the seat in discrimination..some even go as far as saying we are coloured black because we can't afford proper daily hygiene..like what da freak..this are people that went through schools and yet spew this insensitive, ignorant racist comments...

At second bolded ..it is because we are left with almost no choice..we've literally run out of options hence resort to what we might tag a prudent decision....but do you think Africa and the rest of the world are ready to have China as a global leader...I mean that would be catastrophic...Chinese in their own country can't even observe so much as a freedom of speech..that alone should give you a glimpse of the horror they are capable of bringing.
my advice to all African countries deal with the Chinese with a very long spoon
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 6:37pm On Apr 25, 2020
rvp20182:
The biggest states of Africa - DRC, Sudan, NIgeria, and Ethiopia - are so messed up - having a large country seem a disadvantage - if you don't invest in infrastructure. Look at DRC - about 5 times size of kenya - maybe 10 times Ghana - but with barely any infrastructure - for someone in the east of DRC - they have to fly to west.

What Africa need is to bridge it's infrastructure deficit - and then build transnational infrastructure - AU instead of talking - should be building a highway from Cairo to Capetown - from Dakar to Mogadishu -

And the focus should be Intra-trade - and that will eventually improve our fortunes.

Power doesn't come from large country or large population. It comes from MONEY. WEALTH. The UK is small island and yet colonized giants like China India and etc.


""What are 40 million Italians compared with 90 million Germans and 200 million Slaves” says Voltaire. the known bible critics also observed that “God is always on the side of the biggest battalions” Voltaire from France.

population is at least the basis to military power, it help build sound and progressive economy through labour force( China and USA is a typical) , it can be a source of other material and psychological advantages as well. for example, the size or America economy is bigger than the next four nation closer to her ? her national budget for military alone is 20 times what the most wealthiest nation will ever dream off. see, Military preparedness is the most important and tangible factor capable of supporting foreign policy and promoting national interest how can a rich nation like Luxembourg dictate when Germany has a say. power comes from military might , And the basis of military strenght is population.

What will a wealthy nation do without military support and influence unless she create special ally and power. . the reason we see NATO and the new coined one NATO federated mission networking , it has some few number of non permanent member of the main NATO. military strenght alone will unleash technology might and prosperity for the masses. population remains a strenght for a developed nation. we can start somewhere....

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 6:40pm On Apr 25, 2020
Just30:


This level of greed ? grin grin
That is terrible.
Slums of kibera will keep on getting worse since most poor folks have no land

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 6:42pm On Apr 25, 2020
Dlonra:


The Indian minority in Kenya are just puppets of the Already black owned Economy. They sell products produced by blacks, eat foods produced from black owned farms and Bank in Black owned banks like Equity and KCB.
The wealthiest guys in Kenya are these. I want you to count the number of Blacks compared to Indians and tell me who owns Kenya������https://infoanyday.com/the-richest-people-in-kenya/
This has been dealt with ad nauseum. Kenyans don't own their country.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 6:42pm On Apr 25, 2020
ednited:




We just don't know how to fix this. What is the medicine for illiteracy? Even those we had as professors today have no idea about this. And when they know, they will become selfish.

Africa has it all! That is what's more dissapointing
I think the major problems of Africa are stupidity and madness

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chrisooblog: 6:42pm On Apr 25, 2020
rvp20182:
Don't buy into such BS that romanticize Africa history. Africa was very poor, very sickly, and just out there fighting each other like bunch of animals. This kind of BS include literature like "How Europe undeveloped Africa by Walter Rodney". You want to see how Africa was - go the many remote communities that remain untouched by modernity. You'll find many in Africa.

What developed Europe was 1) Industrialisation and 2) International Trade. What underdeveloped Africa was basically getting cut off from modernity and remaining off-line -off-grid - and largely remote - mostly due to geographical issues.

your second paragraph is very true. Europeans mixed and had relations with China and India for hundreds of years. unfortunately Africa wasn't a major trade route leading to hundreds of years missed out on crucial exchange of ideas. that said I don't africa completely lacked organisational structure. West African empires like Ashanti, Mali, Oyo, Benin to mention a few showed promise but unfortunately had yet to evolve quickly enough

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 6:44pm On Apr 25, 2020
Rural Tanzania

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chrisooblog: 6:44pm On Apr 25, 2020
Kazikazi:
I think the major problems of Africa are stupidity and madness
stupidity is the word
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 6:44pm On Apr 25, 2020
samorobo:


True in about ten years time most the world's population would have aged 10 years more than Africa..that mean weaker population which automatically translates to lesser labour and of course stagnate economy cos they would have gotten to their peak...
As a country develops it gets to a point where the market is saturated and they are almost no room for opportunities...any sane investors will chose a virgin land as you said over a saturated market with harsh competition and almost no room to succeed and beat the earliest household name brand....just imagine a new brand of smart phone trying to rival the amount of users over iPhone user in the U.S....that is stupidity...when such investment can be brought to Africa and within a couple of year you become a household name and even erode the presence of this other phone manufacturers here hence competing with them in having more phone users in numbers..
over saturated market was one of the force that push America company to Asia. same thing can also push them to Africa. I agree....

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 6:44pm On Apr 25, 2020
Kazikazi:
That is terrible.
Slums of kibera will keep on getting worse since most poor folks have no land
This is what we have been saying.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:46pm On Apr 25, 2020
Kazikazi:
That is terrible.
Slums of kibera will keep on getting worse since most poor folks have no land
That is how extreme greed makes people poor

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 6:50pm On Apr 25, 2020
Serengeti NP,Tanzania

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 6:50pm On Apr 25, 2020
jl115:
Not important to me just saying you shouldn't claim so called Nigerian athletes representing other countries as your own wink
If it wasn't important to you, you wouldn't confuse Rotorua with Auckland and claim either was his hometown.
He was born in Lagos and lived there in his formative years. That makes Lagos his hometown. We don't need to claim those athletes, they are the ones claiming Nigeria. wink
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 6:51pm On Apr 25, 2020
mtisTheQubit:

i see a silver lining somewhere here...Chinese are moving some of their manufacturing units to other Asian countries with lower production cost..we can do that here..encourage them to invest some here so that we can grow some muscles..have see Ethiopia set up a chinses mobile assembly firm in Addis..maybe we can have tech transfer like they did with Americans..either way competing with Chinese directly will mount to nothing

Errr, no! We looked at this before.


In Kenya and Tanzania, manufacturing labour costs stand at $2,200 and $1,700 annually, respectively, compared with $900 in Ethiopia and $800 in Bangladesh
[url][//amp/s/www.theeastafrican.co.ke/business/East-Africa-costs-itself-out-of-big-share-in-global-trade/2560-5433612-view-asAMP-ffxqy9z/index.html]

We can't go that route: civil society, politics, labour movement our very sociopolitical space can't allow that race to the bottom.
Btw, despite our high costs our labour is still productive as the flower farmers who went to Ethiopia discovered.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 6:57pm On Apr 25, 2020
Nigeria currency collapsing against all major currencies the Nigerian economy Foundation is collapsing under people's eyes. By the end of the year one US Dollar will be 1000 naira

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:57pm On Apr 25, 2020
The power of US is not military - it's the ECONOMY (MONEY)- US started becoming different from rest of America (Mexicos for example) by successfully copy-pasting British industrialization and eventually taking over. Any idiot like you who thinks having a large army is anything serious is not serious. One nuclear weapon from small country like Israel have many large countries shitting their pants. Israeli made all the Arabs nations soil their pants in just six days by deploying the Jewish global money - money to buy weapons and etc.

It's about money - right from your family to your village to your state to your country to the nation. The guy who has more money - even if he has crooked legs or broken bones or is ugly as monkey - will have his way. Even if he has 2inch dick - he will lay most if not all the girls - and they will fake an orgasm so big it will be heard in Accra.

Right now - a small elite jewish cabal - control the world including China and India. What do they have - incredible wealth. Israel can go to war with India or China ...and I bet win it.

Money buys everything.

vaxx:
""What are 40 million Italians compared with 90 million Germans and 200 million Slaves” says Voltaire. the known bible critics also observed that “God is always on the side of the biggest battalions” Voltaire from France.

population is at least the basis to military power, it help build sound and progressive economy through labour force( China and USA is a typical) , it can be a source of other material and psychological advantages as well. for example, the size or America economy is bigger than the next four nation closer to her ? her national budget for military alone is 20 times what the most wealthiest nation will ever dream off. see, Military preparedness is the most important and tangible factor capable of supporting foreign policy and promoting national interest how can a rich nation like Luxembourg dictate when Germany has a say. power comes from military might , And the basis of military strenght is population.

What will a wealthy nation do without military support and influence unless she create special ally and power. . the reason we see NATO and the new coined one NATO federated mission networking , it has some few number of non permanent member of the main NATO. military strenght alone will unleash technology might and prosperity for the masses. population remains a strenght for a developed nation. we can start somewhere....

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 6:59pm On Apr 25, 2020
chrisooblog:
your second paragraph is very true. Europeans mixed and had relations with China and India for hundreds of years. unfortunately Africa wasn't a major trade route leading to hundreds of years missed out on crucial exchange of ideas. that said I don't africa completely lacked organisational structure. West African empires like Ashanti, Mali, Oyo, Benin to mention a few showed promise but unfortunately had yet to evolve quickly enough
Don't mind him , Egypt , Algeria and Morocco all has powerful beginning . there is sound democracy here even before Greece. we have been given woman the right to commerce and political leadership before Greece the fore front of civilization in Europe . before the Europe thought of allowing women to participate In election. we have Iya lode in the old western oyo ( whom position is like minister of trade and industry ) , same as efunsetan aniwura. A successful business woman that empower the women in trade and employ hundreds of men. In Ashanti kingdom , women are known in the slave trade which is the biggest industry then.

one India academia ( the name escape my mind) says if you want to know the level of civilization of a nation. ask the role of woman?


Europe truly underdeveloped us .


Note , there is a lot of social organization in oyo and Ashanti empire just like that of Europe. and don't buy his bullshit , the kind of war happening here was a child play when you compare it with the west. they are seriously killing themselves just to establish an occupation

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza6(f): 6:59pm On Apr 25, 2020
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 7:00pm On Apr 25, 2020
In just two weeks the Naira has lost value against the US dollar buy up 100 naira.. from a value of $1 is to 350 naira now $1 is to 450 Naira are rising.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 7:04pm On Apr 25, 2020
it is a good thing to the Nigerian economy

Especially now that they have done import substitution
SUFFERInSMILIIN:
Nigeria currency collapsing against all major currencies the Nigerian economy Foundation is collapsing under people's eyes. By the end of the year one US Dollar will be 1000 naira

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:04pm On Apr 25, 2020
ednited:


MFASA grin

how you doin?
why on earth would you call kazikazi mfasa.. angry kazi is like pumbaa guy in the story grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 7:05pm On Apr 25, 2020
rvp20182:
The power of US is not military - US started becoming different from rest of America (Mexicos) by successfully copy-pasting British industrialization and eventually taking over. Any idiot like you who thinks having a large army is anything serious is not serious. One nuclear weapon from small country like Israel have many large countries shitting their pants. Israeli made all the Arabs nations soil their pants in just six days by deploying the Jewish global money - money to buy weapons and etc.

It's about money - right from your family to your village to your state to your country to the nation.

Money buys everything.

You sound so brutish as usual, USA become so powerful today as a result of lots of research in her military.. the military research birth what me and the stupid you used to communicate today ( internet)Israel understand the usefulness of bigger nation that is why they aren't dumb like you. they remain one of the biggest ally to the most super power today ( The USA) Go and read what Israelite and his troops went thru in the hands of German during Hitler regime. maybe you will stupidly understand the might of military .

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