Zanzibar, Tanzania
This is not Dubai

gallivant:


Kenya and Canada or US. They have not been welcome in India for hundreds of years now. Same with the adherents of Zoroastrianism from Persia. Majority of them don't know any other homeland other than Kenya.

US an canada is ok but they have been having issues in some asian counties ...like burma,malaysia an others

Nope. They went for the cheapest and found them turks.

rationalhuman:
I was wondering the same coz L&T would not come in this continent for small projects, Never heard of this Turkish contractor But Best of luck for quality i hope it will not be like messy and crumbly like Istanbul train system, i hope you guys have any 3rd party auditor/QC Control Contractor for this project, If you have independent QC Controller from another Country then it may be okay for project. Good wishes.

Kazikazi:
Zanzibar, Tanzania
This is not Dubai

Of course is not Dubai Zanzibar is a village compared to Dubai
Why are you telling us the obvious

rvp20182:
Nope. They went for the cheapest and found them turks.

And that huge hydroelectric dam being built by the Egyptians

Cheap is expensive. These things should be left to Chinese.

tylann:

And that huge hydroelectric dam being built by the Egyptians

rvp20182:
Cheap is expensive. These things should be left to Chinese.

Chinese are building Europe an Asia..wonder why some folks are hiring Europeans an ME people to build stuff for them

tylann:

And that huge hydroelectric dam being built by the Egyptians

What!? Not surprised Egypt found a lacky in the great lakes to misuse. Why are Tanzanians so dumb?

rvp20182:
Cheap is expensive. These things should be left to Chinese.

Even Egyptians are contracting the Chinese to build they infrastructure

tylann:

Even Egyptians are contracting the Chinese to build they infrastructure

the irony

rationalhuman:
I was wondering the same coz L&T would not come in this continent for small projects, Never heard of this Turkish contractor But Best of luck for quality i hope it will not be like messy and crumbly like Istanbul train system, i hope you guys have any 3rd party auditor/QC Control Contractor for this project, If you have independent QC Controller from another Country then it may be okay for project. Good wishes.

Are you talking about L&T an Indian company?
At first you were so shocked to see how tunneling is progressing in Tanzania, you ended up saying that wasn't TZ but Dubai!
When I proved you wrong,you changed a story and pretending you worry about quality!? Why didn't you say that at first?
And you are empty as far as civil engineering is concerned. Do u even know why we use consulting firms in civil work?
Do you know the previous stuff which Yapi merkez have done?

tylann:

And that huge hydroelectric dam being built by the Egyptians

TZ isn't Kenya.We have openness when awarding tenders.Anyone bids,the winner is warded a tender.We are not like Kenyans who are cheated by Chinese on a daily basis.
Our projects are executed by different folks who wins a bid.E.g....
Nyerere international terminal 3, constructed by BAM international ( Netherlands)
SGR,phase1,2,= Yapi Merkez ( turkey)
Dar es salaam port extension is under Chinese
Rufiji 2115 MW hydo dam is under Egyptians
Dar es salaam metropolitan project is Estim construction (TZ company)
Dar es salaam BRT phase 2, is by Chinese
Dodoma international airport design is completed by French company
Deepening of Mtwara,& Tanga port is by Chinese
Renovations of Kilimanjaro's international airport is by BAM international
12 lanes Dar to kibaha express way is by TZ Estim construction
I can't mention all stuff

rvp20182:
Cheap is expensive. These things should be left to Chinese.

The same Chinese who gave you those outdated trains?
Wonders shall never end

tylann:

And that huge hydroelectric dam being built by the Egyptians

what's wrong with this? If the Egyptians can build it, they should.... Do u have any grouse with that?

tylann:

Of course is not Dubai Zanzibar is a village compared to Dubai
Why are you telling us the obvious

There is a Kenyan who said our SGR tunnels are Dubai's

theenchanter:
what's wrong with this? If the Egyptians can build it, they should.... Do u have any grouse with that?

Even me am surprised by their logic!
That is a reason why all their projects are done by Chinese,and they are being cheated everyday. All those new buildings in Nairobi were done by Chinese! While in TZ,most if not all of oou tallest towers were done by local companies

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Kazikazi:
Even me am surprised by their logic!
That is a reason why all their projects are done by Chinese,and they are being cheated everyday. All those new buildings in Nairobi were done by Chinese! While in TZ,most if not all of out tallest towers were done by local companies

u guys are really trying by understanding them, so full of wack mentality.

At first you were so shocked to see how tunneling is progressing in Tanzania, you ended up saying that wasn't TZ but Dubai
Post here the same Sentence where i said its from Dubai, Just copy from my comment and paste word to word, You cant because i never said, i just raised my questions and doubts.

When I proved you wrong,you changed a story and pretending you worry about quality!? Why didn't you say that at first?
Because it was you who told me that it is a turkish contractor (which i never heard of, and i am sure most of the people here) and then concern of quality was bound to come.

And you are empty as far as civil engineering is concerned. Do u even know why we use consulting firms in civil work?
Dude here you are too far, We never know the guy sitting on other end of computer, who it can be, what he may have accomplished. When it comes to technology , Industries and mega projects ITS MY CORE . if yes then why not create a separate thread and lets see.

Do you know the previous stuff which Yapi merkez have done?[/quote]
No i dont, I never heard of there may be atleast thousands of civil contractors in Central Asian region, how can someone knows everyone??

You always knows the World market leaders or the famous ones, Tell me do you know Kechaoda phone? (I had to find this from net, even i wasnt aware cause there are hundreds of such cheap brands) but i am sure you Must have known leaders like Apple, Smasung, Xiaomi, HTC, Motorola, Sony.

I am not a person who just envy something good happening in neighborhood (i appreciate) being an Engineer i just ask questions, You can refer my past posts where i was openly raised question on Kenyan white elephant Rail project, same thing or worst can happen to you guys as well. We cant be envy of each other we are all same.

Kazikazi:
Are you talking about L&T an Indian company?
At first you were so shocked to see how tunneling is progressing in Tanzania, you ended up saying that wasn't TZ but Dubai!
When I proved you wrong,you changed a story and pretending you worry about quality!? Why didn't you say that at first?
And you are empty as far as civil engineering is concerned. Do u even know why we use consulting firms in civil work?
Do you know the previous stuff which Yapi merkez have done?

Kazikazi:
There is a Kenyan who said our SGR tunnels are Dubai's

No he didn't say that

rationalhuman:
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i asked you about L&T.
Anyway,I doubt if you are a real engineer.Which engineering are you dealing with?

theenchanter:
what's wrong with this? If the Egyptians can build it, they should.... Do u have any grouse with that?

Tanzania is working with the enemy. Do you know the same Egypt is against any development on the Nile by upstream countries, then all over sudden they are building dams in Tanzania?! At whose expense? It's the same old divide and conquer mantra, made possible by hapless Tanzanians.

tylann:

No he didn't say that

Read these comments..

gallivant:


Tanzania is working with the enemy. Do you know the same Egypt is against any development on the Nile by upstream countries, then all over sudden they are building dams in Tanzania?! At whose expense? It's the same old divide and conquer mantra, made possible by hapless Tanzanians.

We have the opennes on our tendering systems. Anyone can bid,any one can win.In our dam,the Egyptians were the best bidder.
If Egyptian don't want development on Nile,they should approach international courts and present their case against the Ethiopians.
Otherwise, I will take it as just another street talk.

Kazikazi:
Read these comments..

He only implied it

1800s tech

Kazikazi:
The same Chinese who gave you those outdated trains?
Wonders shall never end

theenchanter:
what's wrong with this? If the Egyptians can build it, they should.... Do u have any grouse with that?

I'll bet the Egyptians will do better

tylann:

He only implied it

Can you read? Did you see what gallivant was saying?

Kazikazi:
We have the opennes on our tendering systems. Anyone can bid,any one can win.In our dam,the Egyptians were the best bidder.
If Egyptian don't want development on Nile,they should approach international courts and present their case against the Ethiopians.
Otherwise, I will take it as just another street talk.

Tanzanians are good at backstabbing their neighbours. So why did you sign the Nile treaty if you were going to walk all over it?

gallivant:


Tanzanians are good at backstabbing their neighbours. So why did you sign the Nile treaty if you were going to walk all over it?

Show me the treaty,then show me what TZ have done wrong! Prove it!
You are the same guy who said our SGR tunnels are of Dubai!