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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 10:48pm On Apr 27, 2020
Kazikazi:
I will cheer the British boys who did the whole inventory stuff!
Kenyans were just onlookers who were just staring like monkeys
grin Kenyans are going to sleep poorly tonight with big headaches. From the fact that Mpesa wasn't started by Kenyans to the fact that their fathers once raped, beat and looted Indians. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 10:53pm On Apr 27, 2020
obaaderemi:
You just busted your guts open. grin
Is it now clear to you that the British have always owned Mpesa? And Vodafone is still the majority shareholder of Safaricom. Transferring rights, however, is different front transferring patent. You don't transfer patents. Vodafone still holds the patent to Mpesa. tongue

Vodafone holds only 40% ownership. Safaricom holds all the intellectual rights to Mpesa. Let's put it to rest. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 10:56pm On Apr 27, 2020
obaaderemi:
grin Kenyans are going to sleep poorly tonight with big headaches. From the fact that Mpesa wasn't started by Kenyans to the fact that their fathers once raped, beat and looted Indians. grin

Stop projecting. Tomorrow we will be here as well. Better bring your game.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Acadavah: 10:58pm On Apr 27, 2020
gallivant:


''......all intellectual rights of Mpesa were transferred to Safaricom....for $13 million." Why didn't you read the article?

Didn't I say that this year 2020 the ownership I.e brand, products etc was transferred to Vodacom and Safaricom?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Acadavah: 11:01pm On Apr 27, 2020
rationalhuman:
I was wondering the same coz L&T would not come in this continent for small projects, Never heard of this Turkish contractor But Best of luck for quality i hope it will not be like messy and crumbly like Istanbul train system, i hope you guys have any 3rd party auditor/QC Control Contractor for this project, If you have independent QC Controller from another Country then it may be okay for project. Good wishes.


Korail the Portuguese company is the one that designed and supervise the construction.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Acadavah: 11:32pm On Apr 27, 2020
gallivant:


Vodafone holds only 40% ownership. Safaricom holds all the intellectual rights to Mpesa. Let's put it to rest. grin

This will bury you completely. Look the patent

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:29am On Apr 28, 2020
theenchanter:
there's never a point in time when S. Korea was poorer than Nigeria.

African country only seem rich cos of their vast natural resources. unfortunately, a country's wealth isn't buried in earth crust, a country's wealth is in its people and not kms into d ground.

S.Koreans didn't come to Nigeria in search of job, as a matter of fact, they came to have a cut of the pie disguised as nationals.

South Korea gained independent from Japan in 1945 and went into a devastating war in 1950 to 1953.

The war recked and ravished South Korea into extreme poverty for a decade without remedy until Park Chung-hee became the president in 1962.

As at that time Nigeria already gained independent and generated huge revenue from Agriculture products like Cocoa, Palm oil and grandnut.

The revenue was used to build cities, industries, institutes, etc all over the country.

Ibadan, Lagos etc were far more developed than Soeul with Skyscrapers, Tv station, trains, electricity, etc In fact, m
Nigeria had all these before South Korea ever dreamt of having them

Education was free in some parts Nigeria. Students graduate from university and got employed instantly. Nigerians bought tire rubber cars and not Tokunbo.

Naira had more value than dollar and was equivalent to pounds.

Nigerians only go for Study and shopping abroad, nothing like japa.

Bros, South Korea was POOR and WRETCHED while Nigeria was VERY rich. Hence the reason many South Korean flocked Nigeria for greener pastures.

South Koreans themselves admitted Nigeria was far richer and better than their country and confirmed they came to Nigeria to survive.

Maybe you are not aware Nigeria was a very rich country until military regime destroyed it.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 2:07am On Apr 28, 2020

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 2:19am On Apr 28, 2020
@rvp, @dlonra @the rest kenyans....roads in Kaduna is better than any road in Kenya...fact grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdf2O2pGr7g

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:33am On Apr 28, 2020
Vodafone Group will hand over management of its Ghana unit to the UK carrier’s separately listed South African division in April, the latest step to bring the company’s operations on the continent under one roof.

Johannesburg-based Vodacom Group. will take responsibility for the West African business alongside other units including Tanzania, Mozambique, the Democratic Republic of Congo and South Africa, chief executive officer Shameel Joosub said in an interview.



@vaxx
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 4:34am On Apr 28, 2020
Probably true - military or oil destroyed Nigeria - and it's yet to recover.
forgiveness:


South Korea gained independent from Japan in 1945 and went into a devastating war in 1950 to 1953.

The war recked and ravished South Korea into extreme poverty for a decade without remedy until Park Chung-hee became the president in 1962.

As at that time Nigeria already gained independent and generated huge revenue from Agriculture products like Cocoa, Palm oil and grandnut.

The revenue was used to build cities, industries, institutes, etc all over the country.

Ibadan, Lagos etc were far more developed than Soeul with Skyscrapers, Tv station, trains, electricity, etc In fact, m
Nigeria had all these before South Korea ever dreamt of having them

Education was free in some parts Nigeria. Students graduate from university and got employed instantly. Nigerians bought tire rubber cars and not Tokunbo.

Naira had more value than dollar and was equivalent to pounds.

Nigerians only go for Study and shopping abroad, nothing like japa.

Bros, South Korea was POOR and RECHECKED while Nigeria was VERY rich. Hence the reason many South Korean flocked Nigeria for greener pastures.

South Koreans themselves admitted Nigeria was far richer and better than their country and confirmed they came to Nigeria to survive.

Maybe you are not aware Nigeria was a very rich country until military regime destroyed it.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 5:24am On Apr 28, 2020
obaaderemi:
Kenyan-Indians were singled out not just indians., due to the envy you had in your hearts for them. Envy and covetousness. You just couldn't understand how people who came as labourers to work on the Kenyan railway construction could grow to own up to about 50% of the Kenyan economy despite their small population while your own people languished. I gave you all the links. The facts!

No one was singled out everyone was attacked including kenyan Indians, white Kenyans and black Kenyans everyone suffered
No one was singled out you are just trying to push your flawed narrative
And now you're becoming stupid there is no point in Kenya where Indians controlled 50% of our GDP
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 5:25am On Apr 28, 2020
obaaderemi:
Lol, I never knew this little fact could make you Kenyans so angry. I wouldn't have started it. But it is common knowledge even in Kenya that Mpesa was not founded by Kenyans. grin

Mpesa is kenyan
You're just making noise
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 5:26am On Apr 28, 2020
Acadavah:


Ignorance

And Wikipedia is your source
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 5:27am On Apr 28, 2020
obaaderemi:
The same Telkom Kenya owned by Nigerians today. grin
Vodafone is the owner of safaricom and Vodafone, not Safaricom,(don't you have anything in your head?) holds the patent to Mpesa which wasfounded by the British. tongue
It's impossible for Kenyans to come up with anything tangible. Even Nairobi and Mombasa were founded by the British and Arabs.

No wonder telkom is making losses
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 5:29am On Apr 28, 2020
Acadavah:


You are a fool here. Vodafone owned M pesa and it this year when the ownership was transferred to Vodacom and Safaricom who are owned by Vodafone.

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://techpoint.africa/2020/04/09/africas-largest-mobile-money-service-m-pesa-is-now-owned-by-vodacom-and-safaricom/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwju0pmvxonpAhXdQUEAHTXCCjoQFjAYegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw2lUMoNeXwYAQBrCzknz45A

The only fool here is you bongolala
Mpesa is kenyan as simple as that and so is safaricom the majority shareholder is the government of Kenya
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by IronGalaxy: 5:59am On Apr 28, 2020
tylann:

There is nothing like Indian settler in Kenya
A settler is someone who owns huge chunks of agricultural land
Indians don't farm in Kenya they are into manufacturing and retail business and they are pure Kenyans they born in Kenya they have lived in Kenya for centuries
I have come to the conclusion that Nigerians in general don't understand multiculturalism.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:28am On Apr 28, 2020
Whack theories as always. South Korea, Singapore, HongKong, Taiwan - or the South East Asia tigers grew at almost the same time - coz they got their act together. Education. Demography (managing population - African still breeding like rats esp northern Nigerians). The investor-friendly economic policies. Investment in basic infrastructure -roads, electricity, railways, ports and etc. Then industrialization. And they climbed out of poverty. China has replicated the same model.

obaaderemi:
This is true. After the Korean war of the 50s, South Korea was a very poor country for years. What lifted them out of poverty were the aids they received from America. You know the South Koreans had America as an ally while North Korea had Russia as its ally.
Money, machineries and knowhow poured into South Korea. The Koreas were another testing grounds for the capitalism and communism systems to show the world which was better.
A lot of aids had poured into Africa too but one difference between the African countries and South Korea was preparation and a sense of patriotism. Koreans valued education greatly. By 1970 their literacy level was close to 90%. And there was no tribalism unlike Africa.

I think people should stop using the negative influence of the west as an excuse for Africa's backwardness. We lack a sense of belonging to our different countries.

Look at Kenya, every election time people get killed wantonly based on ethnicity. Look at Nigeria and the menace of the northerners.

Ghana has a very good chance but it continues to squander it on the altar of poor leadership.
Ghana can very easily be a beacon in Africa if it gets its acts together. Brilliant people, small country, gold, oil, cocoa, almost everything!

Black South Africa is a very peculiar case and it illustrates a good example of a people giving up in the battle of survival of the fittest because they erroneously believe they ain't as good as the other race.
It can be very enervating when you dwell on Africa's case.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:31am On Apr 28, 2020
Leave Obaboon alone - he is angry about Mpesa because Nigeria cannot replicate it. At least Ghana and Tanzania are not doing baldy. Mpesa the system itself is not worth a patent. It's a very simple technology. What made Kenya mobile money so successfully was the entire ECOSYSTEM - from the people to gov regulations, to the structure of the economy .
tylann:

The only fool here is you bongolala
Mpesa is kenyan as simple as that and so is safaricom the majority shareholder is the government of Kenya

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:33am On Apr 28, 2020
I hope it's not the usual case of putting lipstick on a pig. I mean I hope most of roads look like that - not just an overdone roundabout.

samorobo:
@rvp, @dlonra @the rest kenyans....roads in Kaduna is better than any road in Kenya...fact grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdf2O2pGr7g

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 6:45am On Apr 28, 2020
IronGalaxy:
I have come to the conclusion that Nigerians in general don't understand multiculturalism.

Come and lecture us on multiculturalism Na..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:56am On Apr 28, 2020
IronGalaxy:
I have come to the conclusion that Nigerians in general don't understand multiculturalism.


Lol you came to the party late

Multiracialism, multiculturalism has never been a Nigerian things

I mean they can't live together as a nation

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 6:59am On Apr 28, 2020
Talking about Indians and multiculturalism, there are over 200,000 Indians living in Nigeria and about 10,000 Nigerians of Indian descent i.e Indian- Nigerians ..

Yet somebody thinks we hate Indians,lol...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 7:04am On Apr 28, 2020
Talking about multiculturalism, the Chagoury brothers who are the key people behind the Eko Atlantic project and other huge projects in Nigeria are actually Nigerians... cheesy.


Yet,some fools down south think we know nothing about multiculturalism.. lol..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:39am On Apr 28, 2020
Kindly address your fellow Zoogerian Obaboon who think because Dangote has corrupted his way to billionaire status - then Nigeria has gotten there wealthwise.
Danielnino00:
Talking about multiculturalism, the Chagoury brothers who are the key people behind the Eko Atlantic project and other huge projects in Nigeria are actually Nigerians... cheesy.


Yet,some fools down south think we know nothing about multiculturalism.. lol..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzal3ndo(m): 7:52am On Apr 28, 2020
Mbakuthegreat:


You said it yourself, Africa is a vast land of 50 diverse countries but what they all share in common from Nigeria to Tanzania from the north to the south is that these 50 diverse countries are the poorest in the world with the poorest people, is that a coincidence? IQ determines how successful you are going to be in life and Africa suffers and is an unsuccessful continent because Africans live in Africa. I'm not denying the fact that there are Africans with high IQ or normal, but the majority have low IQ which is why Africa suffers. Its enough to just read here and see the depth of the things people write here to understand that you are dealing with not so bright people.
I once did a personal research in determine why Africans are in this state on mind and the study group was the Haya tribe in Kagera North-West of Tanzania. It was based on that the people of this region in where were producing carbon-steel in the early first millenium BC while Europe was able to do so in 19th century. This was a clear indication of the fact that had the brain power to perfect such a skill way before the white could do, so what made them not develop?
My answer, although no scientifically proven and more of a personal opinion, the cultural and the environmental differences were what made Europe take a leap forward before most of Africa. Europe has been seen to have harsher weather and living conditions than most parts of Africa especially along the equator. Most areas of Africa weather is present and nice that people do not have to think of a way to make the environment adopt to them but rather they adopted to the environment because it wasn't a challenge to them. Europe on the other hand has such terrible and challenging weather that they have only one season to plant and one to harvest, so they had to think of ways that they can increase their chances of survival. With that they came up with better ways of farming, then better ways of storing food, better ways of making clothes and housing and they kept up the mentally of making their environment adopt to them unlike Africa.
The second thing was culture, they way the societies where set up. Europe was under kingdom rule of a long time until most of the people decided to change that and re-organised their society structures. This in turn for most part led to the field to which anyone with the means to do better and succeed did and later that made people trade more, and grow since people and nations invested in people with talent and ideas, ie. Da Vinci with the Medici family and Columbus with the Spanish and Dagama with the Portuguese. Most part of Africa didn't have that because most part of Africa was under kingship and one person had power over everyone. This was why it was easy by my opinion to colonise Africa and take slaves, because they only had to deal with one person on top, no individual people with free will, and on most cases granted that the king did not revolt or cause any problem for them, the Europeans let them keep their titles and power over their kingdoms which for most of them it was more than enough. So for me, and i might be wrong, what is bringing down Africans is (i) The "Why fix what isn't broken mentality" and (ii) Africans on the top suppressing those on the bottom who want to rise up, causing a lack of competition which results in the lack of innovation.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 8:02am On Apr 28, 2020
rvp20182:
Kindly address your fellow Zoogerian Obaboon who think because Dangote has corrupted his way to billionaire status - then Nigeria has gotten there wealthwise.

What the hell are u blabbing about?

Is Dangote the cause of starvation in your country??
Uhuru Kenyatta with the help of his father has emmase a lot of your country's wealth for himself and his future generation,yet you think Dangote is your problem...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzal3ndo(m): 8:09am On Apr 28, 2020
vaxx:
i check on the report is just a 74 percent electrification access rate. comparing that with Ghana ( of about 90 percent rate ) is baseless .....
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Tanzania is leading in the number of villages electrified on percentage of the county electrified. On percentage Tanzania is still behind but given that the population is almost twice that of Ghana, but on 2021, by the current installation rate, she will have 100% universal coverage.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 9:45am On Apr 28, 2020
rvp20182:
Whack theories as always. South Korea, Singapore, HongKong, Taiwan - or the South East Asia tigers grew at almost the same time - coz they got their act together. Education. Demography (managing population - African still breeding like rats esp northern Nigerians). The investor-friendly economic policies. Investment in basic infrastructure -roads, electricity, railways, ports and etc. Then industrialization. And they climbed out of poverty. China has replicated the same model.

As stup.I'd as ever. So you didn't see where I wrote: South Koreans were prepared. They valued education and literacy level was close to 90% by the 70s?
What helped South Korea along was American investment. And I also talked about demography. So what are you blabbing about? I guess you were so itching to quote me you didn't bother to read what you quoted. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 9:46am On Apr 28, 2020
Danielnino00:


What the hell are u blabbing about?

Is Dangote the cause of starvation in your country??
Uhuru Kenyatta with the help of his father has emmase a lot of your country's wealth for himself and his future generation,yet you think Dangote is your problem...
Don't mind the slum dweller.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 9:54am On Apr 28, 2020
tylann:

No wonder telkom is making losses
The Nigerians already made their money from Telkom Kenya. They have done a lot of asset stripping since they bought the company. Now the Nigerians are going to sell off the real estate to make more money. It shows Nigerians are far smarter than Kenyans. grin

The only losers here are the Kenyan taxpayers as usual. See it here and weep:
Helios is understood to have recouped
its investment,
with the sale and lease
back of Telkom Kenya’s 723 towers to
American Towers Corporation.
Helios and the Kenyan government
are also said to have separately
registered ownership of the
multimillion-dollar real estate
holdings to be carved out of the
merged unit.
https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/business/Government-Helios-scale-down-investment-in-Telkom-Kenya/2560-4998754-fjrnf8/index.html
See the first and second bolded.

Why did you think the Nigerians bought Telkom Kenya in the first place? It's for the assets. tongue Nice doing business with you, Monsieur Kenyatta.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by leo552: 9:56am On Apr 28, 2020
obaaderemi:
Mpesa was started by the British.That's why Vodafone, a British company owns the patent. Stop lying Kenyan government does not own 60% of safaricom. The largest shareholder of Safaricom is Vodafone, a British company. Can you see how fvcked you are? You better believe us when we tell you your lazy asses are owned by Indians and whites. grin
if you dont know,do not open your mouth!!

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