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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:49pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
Expert17: Pre 2003 what was he doing in football? He was just like another John Stones who could pass and was hyped as a result When you watch John Stones like Rio you will always see his reluctance to engage attackers but Peps defence doesnt cover him well so he gets exposed regularly All those tactic of waiting to get support can only work when you outnumber the attacker, where its 3 attackers vs 4 defenders or 3 vs 3 how else do you handle it without engaging? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:51pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
raumdeuter:this is a silly analysis.Ajax that were missing sitters in the first leg. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:52pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
simonjassy: if Ajax didnt miss sitters in the second leg they could have scored 12 goals |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:53pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
raumdeuter:Haha, bros take am easy nah |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 6:54pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
Ibeme: How will ferninard play well with this team Caroll/Howard G.Neville Ferdinard. Brown/Oshea/Silvestre P.neville/Heinze (thou, he was in team of the year 2004/2005) Vidic will struggle with this players |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 6:55pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
These guys came prepared, them no allow Raumdeuter drag the argument till they get tied and move on like always. They're firing from all cylinders. The amazing thing is that the both parties have their preferences and won't bulge but still they go on and on...Why not just end the argument and move on to something else? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:56pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
simonjassy: Its true na, For example I have never lost a fight with Mike Tyson |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 6:56pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
Godx: Truth is coming out small small. So VVD avoids 1 vs 1 so that Matip/Gomez and TAA/Robertson fall back to help out.? Hmmmm talk about community defending. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 6:58pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
Expert17: Sorry to tell you, the only weak player there is Silvester and Carroll who are backups anyway. All the rest are easily capable of winning leagues. It is their leader that is the problem. We saw this weak leadership in QPR later as he led them to relegation while they drank goals like kunu. We can expect old age to play a part in one-on-ones but their defense had the most shambolic disorganisation cos their leader has little defensive sense. He needed Vidic to lead him to be honest. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 6:58pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
raumdeuter: Before 2003, he broke Defender transfer fee twice.... He became the youngest defender to debut for England(1997). Mention 2 top CB Vidic ever benched in his career?? ...... he met a good platform to perform at United. Ferdinard benched lot of stars at club and country |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Swissh: 6:59pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
Am I the only one seeing Ibime and ibeme? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:00pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
Expert17: John stones also broke transfer fees he also debuted at age 20 WHich good platform was at Man utd when he joined? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 7:00pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
Godx: Yea, that was how he cut off the angles and forced Morata into a bad choice in the very last match he played. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 7:01pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:01pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
Swissh:Original handle was banned |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 7:02pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
timbros: I have no problem with both styles of defending TBH. I don't have to see aggressive defending nor do I have to see clean defending to rate you. Whichever one you are doing, just do it well. Just like you have Roy Keane, Edgar Davids and Diego Someone that can kill you with tackles, or you have Makelele who hardly tackles but specializes in guiding you into traffic. Both are still great DMs. VVD style of defending is very effective for me, same as Vidic that will engage you. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 7:03pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
Ibeme: Ferdinard didnt play upto 15 games at QPR, he was injured and i think he lost his wife that same year......so QPR is out of it. Those defenders/goalkeepers are just average at best,.. Ferguson knew why he bought Vandersar, Vidic and Evra within 2-3 transfer windows |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 7:04pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
timbros:Thank you for showing Van dijk is not God and makes mistakes from time to time . What a shocker the world is about to end. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 7:05pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
raumdeuter: You sabi avoid question... you must answer this one. Mention 2 top defenders Vidic ever benched in his career?? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:08pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
Expert17: Abe which kain yeye question be this? mention one top defender VVD ever benched in his career |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 7:09pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
Ibeme: I prefer a rugged aggressive defender who isn't afraid of timing his tackles. A well timed tackle gives me lot of joy. But yes, you are right... Whether rugged or clean, both styles of defending is okay when you know what you are doing. But I rate those rugged tacklers more. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 7:09pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
Ibeme:Spot on. Thank you for being objective and not letting your bias cloud your judgement. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 7:11pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
raumdeuter: Its yeye question,....because i can mention 7+ club legends he displaced both @ club and country level... Vidic just met better platform to express himself. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 7:13pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
Expert17: This is a very foolish question given that Vidic played for Serbia. Ferdinand get luck say Vidic was not English otherwise he would be the one on the bench watching Vidic play. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 7:13pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
Expert17: From 06/07 - 13/14 that they both play together in the EPL, check this out: Vidic had: More interceptions More blocks More tackles More tackles won More clearances More aerial duel wons More last man tackles More headed clearances More goals More assists More yellow cards More red cards Pray tell Expert, who was organizing who? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:15pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
Ibeme: I prefer defenders who have both techniques in their arsenal, So anyhow you bring it they are ready. Those Keane and Simeone can also guide into traffic while Makelele can also go hard on you VVD is only effective where a coaches tactic makes it only that the defender only has to mop up, In Peps Man City or another pattern thats very offensive where the defence is always open and becomes 1 vs 1 quickly, Guiding into traffic wont work |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:19pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
Expert17: Your VVD mention one top defender he ever benched |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 7:21pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
larride: Larride, We are comparing 2 players....their career. You are bringing part of it. Agenda must agend |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:22pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
Expert17: We are comparing when both played under similar circumstance same club same country same city not when one was in Serbia and one in England |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Swissh: 7:28pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
izzou:I thought as much. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 7:28pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
raumdeuter: Before Vidic joined Ferdinard had played 10 years in the toughest league in the world, defending against top strikers.... Vidic was chilling in serbia and russia league... You dnt expect Ferdinard to be as agile and strong as Vidic...... |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 7:29pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
Expert17: Both of them play together in EPL from 06 - 14. They both were in their prime. It’s not about any agend, for those years they played together, Vidic was better than him and his 2 times Premier league player of the year attest to the fact. Since 94/95 that Premier league started awarding Player of the season, Vidic was the first defender to win it and as at today, he’s the only defender to win it twice. 4 Likes 1 Share |
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