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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Galactico4ever(m): 12:43am On Apr 30, 2020
biomustry:

He plays alright for Madrid. You should watch him, better than Belgium sef
Courtois might go down as the most expensive GK flop ever to play for los blancos.I still believe he's yet to prove himself to Zidane&the fans
Godx:

Their is nothing Don about Sergio Ramos when it comes to his defensive ability. One of the most overrated player I have ever seen who has whitewashed his reputation because of couple goals he scored in champions league finals. The Sergio Ramos i watch week in week out is a wack defender and a clown.
Folks like you who dont have interest in La liga and probably watched Ramos on his bad day should shut it.Give me a centre back who have played &won four UCL finals,4 fifa club world cups,3 uefa super cups,an EURO and the World cup.Dont come here and spew out your ignorance

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 12:47am On Apr 30, 2020
Galactico4ever:
Courtois might go down as the most expensive GK flop ever to play for los blancos.I still believe he's yet to prove himself to Zidane&the fans Folks like you who dont have interest in La liga and probably watched Ramos on his bad day should shut it.Give me a centre back who have played &won four UCL finals,4 fifa club world cups,3 uefa super cups,an EURO and the World cup.Dont come here and spew out your ignorance
This is bollocks. I watch Ramos week in week out for more than 8 years because he is my direct rival in the league unlike you. Please save your preaching for somebody else interested in your whitewashing of him. Sergio Ramos is overrated and a wack defender.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 12:50am On Apr 30, 2020
Godx:

Please just save your lectures about Sergio Ramos to me.
Anyway Ramos is better than any defender that ever suited up for the club you support so whatever

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 12:55am On Apr 30, 2020
hensben:
Ramos is indiscipline and reckless, he is just lucky to have Cr7 and great midfielders in their peak then. In Spain, he had dominant Barca players that ensured those national success. Ramos positional sense is average. The guy is just a dirty player who got goals from set piece or corner kick.

Ramos makes comical errors almost weekly. If he was playing in the Primer league and was English he would have been insulted and ridiculed weekly for his school boy defending plus errors and getting sent off. The same people who are shitting on Ferdinand and Terry are the same ones calling Ramos a great defender, that's an ERROR in my book. Sergio Ramos that gets demolished weekly in la liga. He is a wack defender.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 12:55am On Apr 30, 2020
A40:
Anyway Ramos is better than any defender that ever suited up for the club you support so whatever
Ok
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Galactico4ever(m): 12:56am On Apr 30, 2020
Godx:

This is bollocks. I watch Ramos week in week out for more than 8 years because he is my direct rival in the league unlike you. Please save your preaching for somebody else interested in your whitewashing of him. Sergio Ramos is overrated and a wack defender.
Fact still remains he has been in FIFA and UEFA team of the year more times than any defender from your team,plus he's been carrying the Spanish national Team those 8yrs.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 12:58am On Apr 30, 2020
Galactico4ever:
Fact still remains he has been in FIFA and UEFA team of the year more times than any defender from your team,plus he's been carrying the Spanish national Team those 8yrs.
Ok
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 4:34am On Apr 30, 2020
hensben:
The guy is right. Ramos is a wack defender who is lucky to play with peak Cr7 and great midfielders in front of him, both for Madrid and Spanish National team.


cheesy grin grin

What stopped John Terry, Carragher and rio ferdinand from winning with great midfielders like Paul Scholes, Lampard and Gerrard abi them no be great midfielders again? cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 5:06am On Apr 30, 2020
hensben:
Ramos is indiscipline and reckless, he is just lucky to have Cr7 and great midfielders in their peak then. In Spain, he had dominant Barca players that ensured those national success. Ramos positional sense is average. The guy is just a dirty player who got goals from set piece or corner kick.
Tell me where your legend Terry got his goals from

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Swissh: 6:42am On Apr 30, 2020
Godx:


Ramos makes comical errors almost weekly. If he was playing in the Primer league and was English he would have been insulted and ridiculed weekly for his school boy defending plus errors and getting sent off. The same people who are shitting on Ferdinand and Terry are the same ones calling Ramos a great defender, that's an ERROR in my book. Sergio Ramos that gets demolished weekly in la liga. He is a wack defender.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 6:42am On Apr 30, 2020
Who would you rather have in your team- F. Lampard or Kevin d Bruyne?

Raumdeuter
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 7:06am On Apr 30, 2020
Godx:


Ramos makes comical errors almost weekly. If he was playing in the Primer league and was English he would have been insulted and ridiculed weekly for his school boy defending plus errors and getting sent off. The same people who are shitting on Ferdinand and Terry are the same ones calling Ramos a great defender, that's an ERROR in my book. Sergio Ramos that gets demolished weekly in la liga. He is a wack defender.
We all saw how he kept on leading Spanish National team to disgrace without xavi, xabi and co. I can never rate him among great defenders. Him and pique are not great, they were/are fortunate to be in the right system at the right time.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by obainojazz(m): 7:56am On Apr 30, 2020
Leyqute:
Who would you rather have in your team- F. Lampard or Kevin d Bruyne?

Raumdeuter
I feel Lampard in this city team will be popping at least 15 goals and 10 assists or more per season.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 8:04am On Apr 30, 2020
Galactico4ever:
Fact still remains he has been in FIFA and UEFA team of the year more times than any defender from your team,plus he's been carrying the Spanish national Team those 8yrs.
LMFAO......... @ the bold. What are you saying Bro? The Spanish national team has not played Shiite for 3 consecutive tournaments in a role and their defense has been a major factor. Please stop.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 8:12am On Apr 30, 2020
Godx:

Their is nothing Don about Sergio Ramos when it comes to his defensive ability. One of the most overrated player I have ever seen who has whitewashed his reputation because of couple goals he scored in champions league finals. The Sergio Ramos i watch week in week out is a wack defender and a clown.

We talking about marking out strikers.....he is mentioning Ballotelli. grin grin

If I train for 2 days, ..i will Mark out Ballotelli
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 8:19am On Apr 30, 2020
Galactico4ever:
Fact still remains he has been in FIFA and UEFA team of the year more times than any defender from your team,plus he's been carrying the Spanish national Team those 8yrs.

Go and check how many times, he made it into those FIFA and UEFA teams before Ronaldo joined Real madrid.....then compare it, to when Ronaldo joined.


Ramos is always present in UEFA best 11,...
Ronaldo left just last season, Ramos didn't make the UEFA team
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 8:22am On Apr 30, 2020
biomustry:

He plays alright for Madrid. You should watch him, better than Belgium sef

Courtois played well for Athletico Madrid not Real Madrid....go and watch again, ..dis time with a relaxed mind.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 8:49am On Apr 30, 2020
Galactico4ever:
Fact still remains he has been in FIFA and UEFA team of the year more times than any defender from your team,plus he's been carrying the Spanish national Team those 8yrs.
Carrying who grin
Did u watch him at the 2018 world cup?...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 8:52am On Apr 30, 2020
hensben:
We all saw how he kept on leading Spanish National team to disgrace without xavi, xabi and co. I can never rate him among great defenders. Him and pique are not great, they were/are fortunate to be in the right system at the right time.
They are very good ball playing CBs..
I will give them that
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 9:25am On Apr 30, 2020
obainojazz:
I feel Lampard in this city team will be popping at least 15 goals and 10 assists or more per season.

He’ll also have to share the goals and assists with others.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 9:53am On Apr 30, 2020
Leyqute:
Who would you rather have in your team- F. Lampard or Kevin d Bruyne?

Raumdeuter

Not a question, F. Lampard. His goals and assists from midfield would come in very handy cheesy

Debruyne is trying in Pep's system by slotting into CM sometimes but I would take David Silva in central midfield over him. He is more suited to playing higher up the pitch where he can easily do his stuff

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 10:20am On Apr 30, 2020
popizaino:



Certainly not as a result of being a wack Defender.
You would make a good lawyer.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 10:46am On Apr 30, 2020
Expert17:


We talking about marking out strikers.....he is mentioning Ballotelli. grin grin

If I train for 2 days, ..i will Mark out Ballotelli
lol,just Walk Up To Mario and say to him "your momma loves my cock" and see him turn reckless.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 11:03am On Apr 30, 2020
kendrick93:

Carrying who grin
Did u watch him at the 2018 world cup?...
2014 nko? Confed 2013 nko?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 11:14am On Apr 30, 2020
thorrvik55:


Not a question, F. Lampard. His goals and assists from midfield would come in very handy cheesy

Debruyne is trying in Pep's system by slotting into CM sometimes but I would take David Silva in central midfield over him. He is more suited to playing higher up the pitch where he can easily do his stuff

Well said.

I’d say KdB is the better creator (and assister) of the two but Lampard’s goal record is superior.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by monerozi5590: 11:37am On Apr 30, 2020
Godx:

Their is nothing great about Ramos defensive ability. His accolades has made him more glorified than his actual ability as spillo pointed out before. Judging Ramos purely on his defensive ability he is wack and not better off than David Luiz or any other error prone defender out there. Most carded player in the history of la liga, Real Madrid, El classico ,Spainish national team, Champions league and the entire of Europe's major leagues. You can't be shitting on other defenders and go ahead to name Ramos as a great defender. That's an Error.



Blasphemy.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by monerozi5590: 11:41am On Apr 30, 2020
hensben:
Ramos is indiscipline and reckless, he is just lucky to have Cr7 and great midfielders in their peak then. In Spain, he had dominant Barca players that ensured those national success. Ramos positional sense is average. The guy is just a dirty player who got goals from set piece or corner kick.

Another blasphemy.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 12:04pm On Apr 30, 2020
Leyqute:


He’ll also have to share the goals and assists with others.

That's like saying Ronaldo will have to share goals if he goes to City.

In a team that scores more, Lampard will simply score more.

The only full season Lampard played under Ancelotti, he scored 27 goals and made 20 assists. Obinojazz estimate of 15 goals and 10 assists is GROSSLY underestimated. This is a man who went 7 years at Chelsea popping 20 goals each year. In City who are scoring more, Lampard will score more, excluding penalties.

Even at 35/36 years old, he still went to the same City and was scoring every 160 mins. Infact, if not for getting 10 mins here and there, his average would be much higher. There was one point he dragged City back into the title race earlier in the season, scoring back to back to back. Pellegrini made a mistake to bench him for the 2nd half of the season, and that's when City dropped off the title race.

On the original question, I will still take KDB over Lampard though. I feel KDB can score more goals than he does if he plays further up, and he will out-assist Lampard also.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 12:08pm On Apr 30, 2020
kendrick93:

They are very good ball playing CBs..
I will give them that
Ball playing CB shouldn’t make them great. As a CB, their partnership for Spanish National team was a disgrace. Ramos lack positional sense, he is reckless too. These are the criterial used in discrediting defenders.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 12:10pm On Apr 30, 2020
monerozi5590:


Another blasphemy.
You know nothing about football. Ramos should not be mentioned among great defenders.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 12:12pm On Apr 30, 2020
I'm not a big fan of Ramos, but I don't have energy to argue with those who will throw his trophies in my face.

If Ramos was that great, given his trophy count, they should be mentioning him with Maldini, Baresi and Mathhaus by now. Those guys trophy count is nowhere near Ramos, but no one would dare mention Ramos with them.

Ramos is simply a 7/10 to 7.5/10 defender. Madrid concede bucketloads in the league, and both Ramos and Varane always look suspect and disorganised. He should thank his lucky stars to be around in a great period. There are many 7/10 players in Great teams. Great teams only need a couple of 10/10 players, and the rest can be 7/10 and they will still be great. Gary Neville is a good example.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 12:15pm On Apr 30, 2020
Ibeme:
I'm not a big fan of Ramos, but I don't have energy to argue with those who will throw his trophies in my face.

If Ramos was that great, given his trophy count, they should be mentioning him with Maldini, Baresi and Mathhaus by now. Those guys trophy count is nowhere near Ramos, but no one would dare mention Ramos with them.

Ramos is simply a 7/10 to 7.5/10 defender. Madrid concede bucketloads in the league, and both Ramos and Varane always look suspect and disorganised.
Exactly. They only see number of trophies he has won but individually the guy should not be mentioned among great defenders. He is a second tier CB.

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