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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 12:23pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
How won't he score goals at Chelsea when he takes all the Penalties. We have already dissected his best goalscoring season and it was all awoof penalties. Bring lampard season by season tally minus the awoof penalties you will see they were ordinary. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by monerozi5590: 12:23pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
hensben: I believe airmark will disown you with what you wrote up there. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 12:25pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
monerozi5590:Stay on the topic. Ramos is a second tier CB. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ToyinDipo(m): 12:26pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
I was having this same argument somewhere, some years ago. Maybe as a right back, Ramos is a great defender, but as a central back he isn't. He isn't a disciplined CB, always out of position, committing reckless fouls here are there because of his defensive deficiencies. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Swissh: 12:27pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
Melvyn11:
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 12:28pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
monerozi5590:Ok |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 12:36pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
If you think Lampard will take PK at Mancity ahead of Aguero.....you must be joking ooo KDB all day |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 12:37pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
ToyinDipo:How can some people be shitting on Terry and Ferdinand and then go ahead to list Ramos that is wreckless, commit fouls, always out of position, makes mistakes weekly and with 25 red cards in his career as a great defender. That's an Error i repeat. Judging Ramos by his defensive ability he is a wack defender and a clown. Just look at some of the amount of league goals conceded by Madrid for some seasons. 2018-19: 46 2017-18: 44 2016-17: 41 2015-16: 34 2014-15: 38 2013-14: 38 Madrid has averaged 40 conceded goals per season for the last 6 seasons. 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 12:42pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
Godx: WTF.....just league goals If we add UCL and Spanish Cup to this list, we should be getting something like 60+ goals per season |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 12:43pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
Melvyn11: Can you take away penalties from his 27 goal season in 2009/10 and tell us. . . . then also bring your favourite midfielder own let us be the judge. 8 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Swissh: 12:43pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
Godx:No wonder they can't win league titles
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 12:44pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
Godx: Some people only wait till UCL final to judge. Judging by UCL final alone, David Luiz is also a great defender |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 12:49pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
Ibeme:2009/2010 Lampard scored 22 league goals with 10 awoof pks. He only had 12 goals from open play. Their is nothing extraordinary with 12 goals from open play even Kdb is already on 8 this season. Lampard the awoof pk merchant. 8 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 12:53pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
Ibeme:He's a great player but not a great defender |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 1:01pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
Melvyn11: You are a big mumu. When they hold 20 goals as gold standard for a striker, you don't think that includes penalties? The Aguero them that compete for golden boot with just 21 league goals per year, how many penalties do you think are included in their 21 goals? Let's be clear - Lampard scored 27 goals in all comps that season with only 10 penalties in all competitions, so he had 17 clean goals. Oya, give us your favourite midfielder own from his best season. KDB is on 8 clean goals and being touted for POTY, but Lampard with 17 clean goals and 12 clean league goals is average. Continue. 15 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 1:03pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
kendrick93: Good and succinct summary. Sometimes being a great player includes intangibles such as personality, scoring goals when unexpected etc. He does that. But he is not a great defender by any stretch of imagination. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 1:07pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
Ibeme:I have no business with the other goals he was scoring in the fa cup against Preston and the other yeye teams. League + champions league goals for lampard 2009/2010 = 23goals out of which 10 were Awoof pks. He scored only 13 goals from open play from champions league and league matches combined so nothing extraordinary there. Kdb already has 9 goals in league + champions league combined this season. Lampard is nothing but a pk merchant. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Swissh: 1:10pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
Melvyn11: 1 Like
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 1:14pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
Ibeme: Lampard's double against Bolton secured Chelsea's first EPL title in 2004/05. That season, Lampard scored 13 EPL goals and assisted 18- contributing 43% of the 72 EPL goals Chelsea had. If you include chances created that led to goal, Lampard would've contributed +50% of Chelsea's EPL goals. Yaya Toure is one of City's best midfielders. His best season was 13/14 and he had 20 goals + 9 assists. His goal contribution was 28% of City's 102 total that year. City has always had better attackers than Chelsea and they rely less frequently on their midfielders to break the deadlock. I'm not saying Lampard won't score goals in City, I'm just saying the goal responsibility won't be as heavy on his shoulders like it was in Chelsea. About Ronaldo and Lampard. Factor into consideration their positions on the pitch. Ronaldo is an attacker, Lampard is a midfielder. I won't mind having either Lampard or KdB in my team. If I've got good strikers, kDB is my option. If I don't, it's a dilemma. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Herbiedeen(m): 1:14pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
Godx:Finally, he nailed it....RIVAL..... I don't expect less from a Barka fan...smh 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Herbiedeen(m): 1:16pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
Godx:It's your BULLDOZER that usually demolish him every time abi?? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 1:17pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
Melvyn11: And KDB is odds on favourite for POTY with less goals and less assists with season almost done. Lampard 09/10 - 17 clean goals 08/09 - 18 clean goals 07/08 - 16 clean goals 06/07 - 18 clean goals 05/06 - 14 clean goals 04/05 - 16 clean goals 03/04 - 15 clean goals Bring your favourite midfielder own, let's judge. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Herbiedeen(m): 1:19pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
iamoyindamola:pass n shoot iamoyindamola:pass n shoot |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Herbiedeen(m): 1:22pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
hensben:who are the 'and co'....mention them |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 1:22pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Herbiedeen(m): 1:25pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
spillo1:hmm, and Ramos is the only defender right And mind you, how many goals did they score in those three tournament (and make sure u check how many goals that same defence contributed) |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 1:25pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
LOL. People are hungry o |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 1:28pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
Ibeme:Your Lampard best season has been dissected and he has been shown to be nothing more than a penalty merchant. 22 league goals with 10 awoof penalties. Look for somebody else who judge midfielders by amount of goals scored I have told you several times. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 1:29pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
Herbiedeen:ok |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Herbiedeen(m): 1:33pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
Expert17:do you even know the criterias used for chosing UEFA TEAM?? Where was the Madrid team after 2002, nowhere. And you want a certain defender from that same team that were being disqualified in qf and ro16 to make team of the tournament?? Clueless Dude, stop shooting yourself in the leg 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pkasso(m): 1:35pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
I find Godx's opinion on Ramos interesting as it creates room for a different point of view. I personally think Ramos is a very good defender but i also agree he is a tad overrated. Being overrated doesn't mean you are not good just as you can be the best without being perfect. The idea of Ramos being a super-defender is one that has been helped in part by his persona. He is football's number one pantomime villain and a master of the dark arts. And he looked cool doing it. Pepe at Real did the same nasty and cynical stuff but somehow we like to think of him as a psycho. Ramos is football's archetypal anti-hero. You love him as much as you hate him. The idea of a streetwise footballer who puts everything on the line to win is something we all love. Leader. Warrior. Lovable rogue. This stereotype rather than his actual defensive prowess has helped create the general perception of Ramos. Not to mention the glamour of playing for the greatest club in the world. Sergio Ramos is a fantastic defender but his habitual recklessness sometimes put his teams in difficult positions. His disciplinary record is somehow disappointing for a top CB. Who could forget his stupid decision to pick up a needless suspension against Ajax last season? We all saw what happened afterwards. He manages to get himself sent off every other Clasico but hey he scores in decisive moments and big games and all his sins are forgiven. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Herbiedeen(m): 1:35pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
kendrick93:what happened to him |
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