hensben:
You know nothing about football. Ramos should not be mentioned among great defenders.

monerozi5590:



I believe airmark will disown you with what you wrote up there.

Melvyn11:
How won't he score goals at Chelsea when he takes all the Penalties. We have already dissected his best goalscoring season and it was all awoof penalties. Bring lampard season by season tally minus the awoof penalties you will see they were ordinary.

monerozi5590:




Blasphemy.

ToyinDipo:
I was having this same argument somewhere, some years ago. Maybe as a right back, Ramos is a great defender, but as a central back he isn't. He isn't a disciplined CB, always out of position, committing reckless fouls here are there because of his defensive deficiencies.

Godx:

How can some people be shitting on Terry and Ferdinand and then go ahead to list Ramos that is wreckless, commit fouls, always out of position, makes mistakes weekly and with 25 red cards in his career as a great defender. That's an Error i repeat. Judging Ramos by his defensive ability he is a wack defender and a clown.
Just look at some of the amount of league goals conceded by Madrid for some seasons.


2018-19: 46

2017-18: 44

2016-17: 41

2015-16: 34

2014-15: 38

2013-14: 38

Madrid has averaged 40 conceded goals per season for the last 6 seasons.

Melvyn11:
How won't he score goals at Chelsea when he takes all the Penalties. We have already dissected his best goalscoring season and it was all awoof penalties. Bring lampard season by season tally minus the awoof penalties you will see they were ordinary.

Godx:

How can some people be shitting on Terry and Ferdinand and then go ahead to list Ramos that is wreckless, commit fouls, always out of position, makes mistakes weekly and with 25 red cards in his career as a great defender. That's an Error i repeat. Judging Ramos by his defensive ability he is a wack defender and a clown.
Just look at some of the amount of league goals conceded by Madrid for some seasons.


2018-19: 46

2017-18: 44

2016-17: 41

2015-16: 34

2014-15: 38

2013-14: 38

Madrid has averaged 40 conceded goals per season for the last 6 seasons.

Godx:

How can some people be shitting on Terry and Ferdinand and then go ahead to list Ramos that is wreckless, commit fouls, always out of position, makes mistakes weekly and with 25 red cards in his career as a great defender. That's an Error i repeat. Judging Ramos by his defensive ability he is a wack defender and a clown.
Just look at some of the amount of league goals conceded by Madrid for some seasons.


2018-19: 46

2017-18: 44

2016-17: 41

2015-16: 34

2014-15: 38

2013-14: 38

Madrid has averaged 40 conceded goals per season for the last 6 seasons.

Ibeme:


Can you take away penalties from his 27 goal season in 2009/10 and tell us. . . . then also bring your favourite midfielder own let us be the judge.

Ibeme:
I'm not a big fan of Ramos, but I don't have energy to argue with those who will throw his trophies in my face.

If Ramos was that great, given his trophy count, they should be mentioning him with Maldini, Baresi and Mathhaus by now. Those guys trophy count is nowhere near Ramos, but no one would dare mention Ramos with them.

Ramos is simply a 7/10 to 7.5/10 defender. Madrid concede bucketloads in the league, and both Ramos and Varane always look suspect and disorganised. He should thank his lucky stars to be around in a great period. There are many 7/10 players in Great teams. Great teams only need a couple of 10/10 players, and the rest can be 7/10 and they will still be great. Gary Neville is a good example.

Melvyn11:

2009/2010 Lampard scored 22 league goals with 10 awoof pks. He only had 12 goals from open play. Their is nothing extraordinary with 12 goals from open play even Kdb is already on 8 this season. Lampard the awoof pk merchant.

kendrick93:
He's a great player but not a great defender

Ibeme:


You are a big mumu. When they hold 20 goals as gold standard for a striker, you don't think that includes penalties?

The Aguero them that compete for golden boot with just 21 league goals per year, how many penalties do you think are included in their 21 goals?

Let's be clear - Lampard scored 27 goals in all comps that season with only 10 penalties in all competitions, so he had 17 clean goals.

Oya, give us your favourite midfielder own from his best season.

KDB is on 8 clean goals and being touted for POTY, but Lampard with 17 clean goals and 12 clean league goals is average. Continue.

Melvyn11:

I have no business with the other goals he was scoring in the fa cup against Preston and the other yeye teams. League + champions league goals for lampard 2009/2010 = 23goals out of which 10 were Awoof pks. He scored only 13 goals from open play from champions league and league matches combined so nothing extraordinary there. Kdb already has 9 goals in league + champions league combined this season. Lampard is nothing but a pk merchant.

Ibeme:


That's like saying Ronaldo will have to share goals if he goes to City.

In a team that scores more, Lampard will simply score more.

The only full season Lampard played under Ancelotti, he scored 27 goals and made 20 assists. Obinojazz estimate of 15 goals and 10 assists is GROSSLY underestimated. This is a man who went 7 years at Chelsea popping 20 goals each year. In City who are scoring more, Lampard will score more, excluding penalties.

Even at 35/36 years old, he still went to the same City and was scoring every 160 mins. Infact, if not for getting 10 mins here and there, his average would be much higher. There was one point he dragged City back into the title race earlier in the season, scoring back to back to back. Pellegrini made a mistake to bench him for the 2nd half of the season, and that's when City dropped off the title race.

On the original question, I will still take KDB over Lampard though. I feel KDB can score more goals than he does if he plays further up, and he will out-assist Lampard also.

Godx:

This is bollocks. I watch Ramos week in week out for more than 8 years because he is my direct rival in the league unlike you. Please save your preaching for somebody else interested in your whitewashing of him. Sergio Ramos is overrated and a wack defender.

Godx:


Ramos makes comical errors almost weekly. If he was playing in the Primer league and was English he would have been insulted and ridiculed weekly for his school boy defending plus errors and getting sent off. The same people who are shitting on Ferdinand and Terry are the same ones calling Ramos a great defender, that's an ERROR in my book. Sergio Ramos that gets demolished weekly in la liga. He is a wack defender.

Melvyn11:

I have no business with the other goals he was scoring in the fa cup against Preston and the other yeye teams. League + champions league goals for lampard 2009/2010 = 23goals out of which 10 were Awoof pks. He scored only 13 goals from open play from champions league and league matches combined so nothing extraordinary there. Kdb already has 9 goals in league + champions league combined this season. Lampard is nothing but a pk merchant.

iamoyindamola:

Tell me where your legend Terry got his goals from

iamoyindamola:

Tell me where your legend Terry got his goals from

hensben:
We all saw how he kept on leading Spanish National team to disgrace without xavi, xabi and co. I can never rate him among great defenders. Him and pique are not great, they were/are fortunate to be in the right system at the right time.

spillo1:

LMFAO......... @ the bold. What are you saying Bro? The Spanish national team has not played Shiite for 3 consecutive tournaments in a role and their defense has been a major factor. Please stop.

Ibeme:


And KDB is odds on favourite for POTY with less goals and less assists with season almost done.

Lampard

09/10 - 17 clean goals
08/09 - 18 clean goals
07/08 - 16 clean goals
06/07 - 18 clean goals
05/06 - 14 clean goals
04/05 - 16 clean goals
03/04 - 15 clean goals

Bring your favourite midfielder own, let's judge.

Herbiedeen:
Finally, he nailed it....RIVAL..... I don't expect less from a Barka fan...smh

Expert17:


Go and check how many times, he made it into those FIFA and UEFA teams before Ronaldo joined Real madrid.....then compare it, to when Ronaldo joined.


Ramos is always present in UEFA best 11,...
Ronaldo left just last season, Ramos didn't make the UEFA team

kendrick93:
Carrying who Did u watch him at the 2018 world cup?...