Leyqute:
Who would you rather have in your team- F. Lampard or Kevin d Bruyne?

Raumdeuter

KDB for me sha

Lampard plays a different role to KDB.

KDB is like a midfield general with less focus on goal scoring, and more on passing

Lampard is a goal scoring midfielder with more focus on movement

KDB I think brings more balance to team structure than Lampard

Melvyn11:

Your Lampard best season has been dissected and he has been shown to be nothing more than a penalty merchant. 22 league goals with 10 awoof penalties.
Look for somebody else who judge midfielders by amount of goals scored I have told you several times.

Lol.
Lampard appears in the top ten for both goals scored and assists given in the EPL. Someone removed penalty goals from his contributions and asked you to compare and you're yarning dust for cheap likes.

Continue shaa

nihilistjnr:


KDB for me sha

Lampard plays a different role to KDB.

KDB is like a midfield general with less focus on goal scoring, and more on passing

Lampard is a goal scoring midfielder with more focus on movement

KDB I think brings more balance to team structure than Lampard

It depends on the circumstances. If I had a prolific striker, I would pick KDB. If I had a less prolific forward, Lampard all day.

And this is not to say that Lampard isn't a very good passer or doesn't have vision, because he is.

hensben:
You know nothing about football. Ramos should not be mentioned among great defenders.

but you know everything, GREAT.

Ibeme:
I'm not a big fan of Ramos, but I don't have energy to argue with those who will throw his trophies in my face.

If Ramos was that great, given his trophy count, they should be mentioning him with Maldini, Baresi and Mathhaus by now. Those guys trophy count is nowhere near Ramos, but no one would dare mention Ramos with them.

Ramos is simply a 7/10 to 7.5/10 defender. Madrid concede bucketloads in the league, and both Ramos and Varane always look suspect and disorganised. He should thank his lucky stars to be around in a great period. There are many 7/10 players in Great teams. Great teams only need a couple of 10/10 players, and the rest can be 7/10 and they will still be great. Gary Neville is a good example.

do you watch madrid games??
do you know how manw positions those two (especially Ramos) covers??

Herbiedeen:
do you even know the criterias used for chosing UEFA TEAM??
Where was the Madrid team after 2002, nowhere. And you want a certain defender from that same team that were being disqualified in qf and ro16 to make team of the tournament?? Clueless
Dude, stop shooting yourself in the leg

You have bn saying rubbish since..... That madrid team of 2002 upwards is still better than Ajax team..... De ligt manage to make the team.

Ramos shud be grateful to Ronaldo..... Pepe is a better defender...

Godx:

How can some people be shitting on Terry and Ferdinand and then go ahead to list Ramos that is wreckless, commit fouls, always out of position, makes mistakes weekly and with 25 red cards in his career as a great defender. That's an Error i repeat. Judging Ramos by his defensive ability he is a wack defender and a clown.
Just look at some of the amount of league goals conceded by Madrid for some seasons.


2018-19: 46

2017-18: 44

2016-17: 41

2015-16: 34

2014-15: 38

2013-14: 38

Madrid has averaged 40 conceded goals per season for the last 6 seasons.

Yea cos only he is the GK, RB, CB, LB
do u even know what you're arguing sef

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Unlimited22:

It depends on the circumstances. If I had a prolific striker, I would pick KDB. If I had a less prolific forward, Lampard all day.

And this is not to say that Lampard isn't a very good passer or doesn't have vision, because he is.

KDB imo is just more well rounded as a midfielder than Lampard was.

He seems faster, bigger, stronger, and can run for longer than Lampard.

I do think KDB is probably thr best box-to-box midfielder in the history of the game.

He can give you a bit of everything, and that's why I feel hes better than Lampard for me.

Expert17 come and see something. it doesn't mean your Albino fraud is not overrated.



Lampard league goals minus penalties the same number of seasons ibi.me wrote which is 7.



2003 to 2010 = 65 league goals

Your Albino Scholes

1998 to 2005 = 61 league goals.

Melvyn11:

I have no business with the other goals he was scoring in the fa cup against Preston and the other yeye teams. League + champions league goals for lampard 2009/2010 = 23goals out of which 10 were Awoof pks. He scored only 13 goals from open play from champions league and league matches combined so nothing extraordinary there. Kdb already has 9 goals in league + champions league combined this season. Lampard is nothing but a pk merchant.

hope you know KDB's goal against madrid was pk sha

pkasso:
I find Godx's opinion on Ramos interesting as it creates room for a different point of view. I personally think Ramos is a very good defender but i also agree he is a tad overrated. Being overrated doesn't mean you are not good just as you can be the best without being perfect.

The idea of Ramos being a super-defender is one that has been helped in part by his persona. He is football's number one pantomime villain and a master of the dark arts. And he looked cool doing it. Pepe at Real did the same nasty and cynical stuff but somehow we like to think of him as a psycho. Ramos is football's archetypal anti-hero. You love him as much as you hate him. The idea of a streetwise footballer who puts everything on the line to win is something we all love. Leader. Warrior. Lovable rogue.

This stereotype rather than his actual defensive prowess has helped create the general perception of Ramos. Not to mention the glamour of playing for the greatest club in the world.

Sergio Ramos is a fantastic defender but his habitual recklessness sometimes put his teams in difficult positions. His disciplinary record is somehow disappointing for a top CB. Who could forget his stupid decision to pick up a needless suspension against Ajax last season? We all saw what happened afterwards. He manages to get himself sent off every other Clasico but hey he scores in decisive moments and big games and all his sins are forgiven.

No one here is saying Ramos is not good..

The crux of the matter is some here like raumdueter believe Ramos should be named among the greatest centrebacks because of the Champions league goals he scored (not even for his defensive contributions)...

Herbiedeen:
Yea cos only he is the GK, RB, CB, LB do u even know what you're arguing sef

Please Stop quoting me. Thank you very much.

nihilistjnr:


KDB imo is just more well rounded as a midfielder than Lampard was.

He seems faster, bigger, stronger, and can run for longer than Lampard.

I do think KDB is probably thr best box-to-box midfielder in the history of the game.

He can give you a bit of everything, and that's why I feel hes better than Lampard for me.

I believe KDB's best position is the 10 role or the third midfielder with freedom to roam in a 4-3-3.

Playing KDB in central midfield in a team that's not Pep's City would be a waste of his abilities IMO.

Swissh:
Expert17 come and see something. it doesn't mean your Albino fraud is not overrated.



Lampard league goals minus penalties the same number of seasons ibi.me wrote which is 7.



2003 to 2010 = 65 league goals

Your Albino Scholes

1998 to 2005 = 61 league goals.

Scholes played with

Cantona
Sherringham
Yorke
Mark hughes
Andy cole
Ole solkjear
Van nistelrooy
Wayne rooney
Beckham
Giggs
Ronaldo
Van persie
Berbatov


Lampard played with

Drogba
Anelka
Crespo (flop)
Shhevchenko(flop)
Torres (Flop)
Malouda
Joe cole


Their is big difference. Scholes role is to dictate and control the tempo of play,..not to drag PK and Freekick with strikers

Unlimited22:

Lol.
Lampard appears in the top ten for both goals scored and assists given in the EPL. Someone removed penalty goals from his contributions and asked you to compare and you're yarning dust for cheap likes.

Continue shaa

Who is this and what is he saying?

Swissh:
Expert17 come and see something. it doesn't mean your Albino fraud is not overrated.



Lampard league goals minus penalties the same number of seasons ibi.me wrote which is 7.



2003 to 2010 = 65 league goals

Your Albino Scholes

1998 to 2005 = 61 league goals.

Lmao

Ibeme:


That's like saying Ronaldo will have to share goals if he goes to City.

In a team that scores more, Lampard will simply score more.

The only full season Lampard played under Ancelotti, he scored 27 goals and made 20 assists. Obinojazz estimate of 15 goals and 10 assists is GROSSLY underestimated. This is a man who went 7 years at Chelsea popping 20 goals each year. In City who are scoring more, Lampard will score more, excluding penalties.

Even at 35/36 years old, he still went to the same City and was scoring every 160 mins. Infact, if not for getting 10 mins here and there, his average would be much higher. There was one point he dragged City back into the title race earlier in the season, scoring back to back to back. Pellegrini made a mistake to bench him for the 2nd half of the season, and that's when City dropped off the title race.

On the original question, I will still take KDB over Lampard though. I feel KDB can score more goals than he does if he plays further up, and he will out-assist Lampard also.

which kind talk be this nah, oga Ibime. So, pelle should be starting a completely washed up Lampard just because he can pop up 1 or 2 goals by running to the front of goal?

Lampard that lost confidence and could not hold ball for 2 seconds. How will he run the midfield, then with young and energetic players against him. Nawao you o. This your Lampard love self.

thorrvik55:


I believe KDB's best position is the 10 role or the third midfielder with freedom to roam in a 4-3-3.

Playing KDB in central midfield in a team that's not Pep's City would be a waste of his abilities IMO.

Guardiola once mentioned that he doesn't think KDB is a midfield controller like Xavi or a dribbler-passer like Iniesta, and I think I get what he means.

KDB doesn't play the number 10 role for city, maybe because he's not a skillful midget type of player.

Playing up front at number 10 role may hamper his effectiveness as space is a lot more congested in the opposition box.

He has been starting in a deep position for city for at least 3 year's now, and I think he even announced that he was a DM a few years ago.

nihilistjnr:


KDB imo is just more well rounded as a midfielder than Lampard was.

He seems faster, bigger, stronger, and can run for longer than Lampard.

I do think KDB is probably thr best box-to-box midfielder in the history of the game.

He can give you a bit of everything, and that's why I feel hes better than Lampard for me.

Lampard is more versatile IMO. Played AM, DM, CM and maybe even RM and performed very well in all roles, all the while playing incredible numbers for goals, assists and chances created. It's a very tight call, and it will always depend on the situation and the rest of the players at my disposal.

Expert17:



You have bn saying rubbish since..... That madrid team of 2002 upwards is still better than Ajax team..... De ligt manage to make the team.

Ramos shud be grateful to Ronaldo..... Pepe is a better defender...

i don't have the strength to argue with you, but to make things clear
Ramos Was not part of that team or even the squad sef cos he was still either 15 or 16 then
Hierro, Helguero, Salgado, Carlos were the heart of madrid defence then.
And since then, madrid have always been eliminated in ro16 or qf...
even when the world best cannavaro came, he couldn't do it.

so tell me what you have on Ramos in the pre-cristiano era

nihilistjnr:


Guardiola once mentioned that he doesn't think KDB is a midfield controller like Xavi or a dribbler-passer like Iniesta, and I think I get what he means.

KDB doesn't play the number 10 role for city, maybe because he's not a skillful midget type of player.

Playing up front at number 10 role may hamper his effectiveness as space is a lot more congested in the opposition box.

He has been starting in a deep position for city for at least 3 year's now, and I think he even announced that he was a DM a few years ago.

He's been playing as the CM with Fernandinho or Rodri behind him, and maybe Silva ahead of him when he does play.
And he spends a lot of his time running that inside right channel or even plain on the right wing, delivering those killer crosses.
Playing him in the hole would attract too much attention to him, especially because he's not a dribbler.

Godx:

Please Stop quoting me. Thank you very much.

and you also stop sprouting what is not

Herbiedeen:
and you also stop sprouting what is not

ok

Leyqute:
Who would you rather have in your team- F. Lampard or Kevin d Bruyne?

Ramdeuter

If you have sharp attackers who can do their job I will have KdB if your attacker is blunt I will have Lampard

Melvyn11:

I have no business with the other goals he was scoring in the fa cup against Preston and the other yeye teams. League + champions league goals for lampard 2009/2010 = 23goals out of which 10 were Awoof pks. He scored only 13 goals from open play from champions league and league matches combined so nothing extraordinary there. Kdb already has 9 goals in league + champions league combined this season. Lampard is nothing but a pk merchant.

This is why I stopped engaging in pointless arguments online. Even in the face of evidence, people like you will only dance around and repeat the initial argument like a broken record.

In the last 6 years, no midfielder has scored more than 12 non penalty goals in the premier league. The only midfielder to score more goals had 7 penalties.

If you extend it further to 10 years, only Yaya Toure has ever scored more than 12 non penalty goals.

So let me rephrase your argument so you see how ridiculous it sounds. "Ten years since Lampard the penalty merchant last scored 12 non penalty goals, only one midfielder has ever scored more."

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raumdeuter:


If you have sharp attackers who can do their job I will have KdB if your attacker is blunt I will have Lampard

What about Aguero as the striker?

nihilistjnr:


Guardiola once mentioned that he doesn't think KDB is a midfield controller like Xavi or a dribbler-passer like Iniesta, and I think I get what he means.

KDB doesn't play the number 10 role for city, maybe because he's not a skillful midget type of player.

Playing up front at number 10 role may hamper his effectiveness as space is a lot more congested in the opposition box.

He has been starting in a deep position for city for at least 3 year's now, and I think he even announced that he was a DM a few years ago.

For Belgium though, he plays better higher up the pitch than in midfield. That's why I said him playing in midfield at City is perfect for him because of Pep's style of play but any other coach might struggle to fit him in midfield.

Swissh:
Expert17 come and see something. it doesn't mean your Albino fraud is not overrated.



Lampard league goals minus penalties the same number of seasons ibi.me wrote which is 7.



2003 to 2010 = 65 league goals

Your Albino Scholes

1998 to 2005 = 61 league goals.

Okay I just understood your comment now

Everyone interested in knowing the truth knows how Lampard was scoring penalties to win nominations. It's a shame

obainojazz:
What about Aguero as the striker?

KdB