Chosen1984:
How do u Ban who you didn't call?

Immorality of any sort is evil but Banning is not the answer..

Such a Pastor who has fallen should step down for Season.. he should use the Period to make Amends with JESUS CHRIST.. He should Humble himself before GOD and Repent Totally.

After that and in due Season , The Church could reinstate him .

The Will of GOD is that all men should be Saved!

Maximus69:
The title "Pastor" is the problem!

In the first century all the Christians see one another as brothers, the only spiritual head is Christ! Matthew 23:8-12

So when Peter denied Jesus (something Jesus himself count as a serious sin) this same Peter continued to lead the Apostles. Even when he fumbled by letting himself to be carried away by the spirit of nepotism, Apostle Paul corrected him.
In all of this, Peter remains one of the 12 Apostles!

So how do we get a balance view?

Sin is what we were born with, this means none of us is perfect except our Lord and Master (Jesus Christ).

Jesus said we should be prepared to assist one another to keep the faith alive in us. Therefore certain measures should be taken to help the brother that has been overwhelmed by the spirit of the world.
But if he resists the help of God's holy spirit, then he must be disfellowshiped no matter his part in the congregation of God!

StrikeBack:
What of pastors who make false prophecy,. Maybe we should have them banished from Nigeria.

ABI how you see am

Emusan:
@OP
Nobody has right to permanently ban anybody even scripture didn't support that, the best is to come together to help the person in such situation.
Always deviating from the main point!
If you have problem with the word "Pastor", then change it to ELDER & DEACON
So because they see one another as brothers does it mean there's no LEADER AMONG THEM?
You have problem with the TITLE "PASTOR" but you don't have problem with the TITLE "Governing Body"
What does it mean to Govern?
DIDN'T your GOVERNING BODY see themselves as the SPIRITUAL HEAD of the Watchtower Society?
Didn't this go against your claim that "The ONLY SPIRITUAL HEAD is Christ!
Hypocrite!
Always see Mott in someone else's eye but will be too blind to see his own.
After you know this, why did you start with the above statement?

Maximus69:


The title "Pastor" is the problem!

In the first century all the Christians see one another as brothers, the only spiritual head is Christ! Matthew 23:8-12

So when Peter denied Jesus (something Jesus himself count as a serious sin) this same Peter continued to lead the Apostles. Even when he fumbled by letting himself to be carried away by the spirit of nepotism, Apostle Paul corrected him.
In all of this, Peter remains one of the 12 Apostles!

So how do we get a balance view?

Sin is what we were born with, this means none of us is perfect except our Lord and Master (Jesus Christ).

Jesus said we should be prepared to assist one another to keep the faith alive in us. Therefore certain measures should be taken to help the brother that has been overwhelmed by the spirit of the world.
But if he resists the help of God's holy spirit, then he must be disfellowshiped no matter his part in the congregation of God!

Maximus69:


Delusional Maximus69!

You read my comment with your own eyes where i typed saying "Jesus is the one and only spiritual head"
All you need to do is tactfully asked "what is the position of our own Governing Body?"
That's all!
Then you allow me (who said Jesus is our spiritual head) to explain!

OtemAtum:
If Hosea could commit Adultery and escape it by writing the book of Hosea, why can't other pastors escape it by writing a book of excuses ?

CodeTemplar:
Pastor only becomes an empty title when faked.
How can a committee of men sit to ban a man called by God to an assignment from that assignment? Has God empowered any human committee to call and un-call his ministers?

Some suggestions only appeal to our ignorant part and aren't worth all these attention. Christianity doesnt need sharia.

Emusan:


You think everyone is a clown like you....

Now you want to explain the POSITION of GB, something thats not hidden to anyone but can quickly pick offense with the TITLE "Pastor"

Just say it openly here that the Governing Body aren't THE SPIRITUAL HEAD of watchtower society and let your hypocritical mouth be put to shame!

Liar and Hypocrite!

Maximus69:


The title "Pastor" is the problem!

In the first century all the Christians see one another as brothers, the only spiritual head is Christ! Matthew 23:8-12

So when Peter denied Jesus (something Jesus himself count as a serious sin) this same Peter continued to lead the Apostles. Even when he fumbled by letting himself to be carried away by the spirit of nepotism, Apostle Paul corrected him.
In all of this, Peter remains one of the 12 Apostles!

So how do we get a balance view?

Sin is what we were born with, this means none of us is perfect except our Lord and Master (Jesus Christ).

Jesus said we should be prepared to assist one another to keep the faith alive in us. Therefore certain measures should be taken to help the brother that has been overwhelmed by the spirit of the world.
But if he resists the help of God's holy spirit, then he must be disfellowshiped no matter his part in the congregation of God!

OtemAtum:
If Hosea could commit Adultery and escape it by writing the book of Hosea, why can't other pastors escape it by writing a book of excuses ?

CodeTemplar:
That foul spirit really got a hold of you o. Repentance when done aright is very powerful. There is godly repentance and worldly repentance 2 Cor 7:10.

OtemAtum:
Lol, they aff come again. Repentance from what o jare?

Chosen1984:


Well said my Brother.

But there are things we should note

1. The Fact that we are born with sin does not mean we will continue to sin
2. Peter was Fortunate to have JESUS CHRIST who foresaw what was to come and also gave him the remedy. His fall made Him an Encouragement to others. So to fall is one thing but to Repent After falling is the Main thing.
Luke 22
31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:
32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.

OtemAtum:


If Hosea could commit Adultery and escape it by writing the book of Hosea, why can't other pastors escape it by writing a book of excuses ?

Hosea was commanded to marry a harlot, not to commit adultery with her. God said, “Go, take yourself a wife.” God did not say go in and commit adultery.

OLAADEGBU:




Atum, you need to read and study your Bible.

Maximus69:


Your impatience is really killing you my friend!

I have said it and you can ask any member of Jehovah's Witnesses you know the same question.

Jesus is our spiritual head NOT the GB!

But if you don't want the explanation, then you can suit yourself!

Emusan:


The question is:

(1)Did your GB claim to be the spiritual head or not?

(2)You have problem with the Title Pastor, why don't you have problem with the Title Governing Body?

Hypocrite!

Maximus69:
(1) NO is the answer to this question, the group name Governing Body simply means the small group overseeing the activities of God's people globally during this end time. Just as the 12 men called Apostles were overseeing the activities of Christians in the first century! Act 2:42
After narrating what will befall the first century Christian group and how their preaching and teaching work will be obstructed by the ruler of the world, Jesus promised that during his return to examine how his followers are faring on earth {Luke 18:8} he will appoint a faithful and discreet slave group that will be overseeing his followers globally! Matthew 24:45
So the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses emerged as that foretold group, that's why they're able to organise people from different races under the heavens, disarm them and made them one big and happy family of peace loving preachers and teachers globally. No other group has been able to do something of that nature! Matthew 19:26

(2) The title "Pastor" has become part of the worldly religious titles people attached to their names to make others give them undue attention {Matthew 23:8} but Governing Body IS NOT A TITLE recognized by outsiders unless some antagonists who wants to criticize Jehovah's people. Unlike churchgoers and other groups that always attach the titles to their names, members of our Governing Body are recognize only within Jehovah's Witnesses. Just as the first century Apostles were recognized only amongst the Christians!
Thank you!

OtemAtum:


That's what your Bible told you, but the truth was that he committed adultery like Apostle Suleiman and used his book of Hosea to cover face

Emusan:


The @color part is enough for open-minded people to see the level of your hypocrisy!

But unfortunately just the way many Christians holds their pastors as god just exactly the same way JWs place GB as god!

OLAADEGBU:


Where is your alter ego BudaAtum?

Maximus69:
So if that's what you truthfully want to say then what's your problem with Jehovah's Witnesses since you're sure there is no difference?

If i say Jehovah's Witnesses are the one and only organization of our own God, you will say that's what others are saying, but you will never rest seeing the post of Jehovah's Witnesses only!

ARGUMENTATIVE Emusan suffering from antijw virus!

Emusan:


But you have problem with some people

Hypocrite!

Is there different or the same explanation you gave to the word PASTOR didn't apply to JWs also?

That's why you people will continue to lead when it comes to award for the best Hypocrisy!

You can see mote in some else eyes but you cant see the very one in your own eyes.

Hypocrite!



Since you've been parading here on Nairaland claiming JW is the only ORGANIZATION of your God, has that one make you stop jumping from thread to thread restlessly and being tormented even in your dream?

Of course JW is the ONLY ORGANIZATION of your God because no organization in the scripture but True Followers of Christ.



Only if you know that this best described you but will it? No! Because you derive joy in your ignorance and delusion.

You join Nairaland not up to 2 years but your POST on Nairaland are already over 6,000 POSTS why me who joined Nairaland more than 7years haven't made up to 5,000posts.

Then a reasonable person will ask, who is more argumentative?

And guess what, more than 95% of your post is on religion section because you're a restless soul being tormented by the lies of your demonic organization.

Maximus69:


Delusional maximus69!

You forgot i claim to be one of the true Christians, followers of the Jewish guy who spent the rest of his life (after his baptism) always talking about faith {John 4:34} saying everyone must subscribe to his teachings to see God's kingdom! John 3:16-18

Well you've said it all.
Maximus69 will continue to be in the religious section anywhere he goes{Luke 2:49} taking his time to find the lost sheep of the house of Israel! Ephesians 5:15-17

Meditate on this and try to figure out the difference between the spirit you find in me with the one you're expecting to find in a TRUE Christian!

Emusan:


No! I didn't because your claim has no scriptural support.

Rather you truly belong to ONLY ORGANIZATION of your God.

Which is exactly what Watchtower Society is not a True followers of Christ.

Then this support my claim that you're the very ARGUMENTATIVE PERSON, so why are you passing your delusions to other?

So it was Religion Section of Nairaland that Christ commanded you to go....delusional JWs!

The spirit in True Christians doesn't lie or make false accusations like you commonly exhibit here even that everybody you debate with on Nairaland can quickly pick from you.