That is a misconception. Supermarkets and malls are cheaper. . The luxury stores and brands around the malls are expensive. But manufacturer will give a HUGE discount to supermarket chain...and they will transfer it to consumer. And that is how they become popular. Kenya started about 20yrs this push..and now we are about 40% shopping in formal retails..malls, supermarket..and 60% still doing the nonsense you're talking about...and rate of conversion is high. Even people in rural areas - realize how cheaper it is to shop once in supermarket - than buy small and expensive.

vaxx:
A larger chunk of the population will prefer to go shopping at kambi muru open market rather than west gate mall. it is about 'cost'" . that luxury to shop in malls is not available to over 60 percent urban Kenyans who lives in slum .

rvp20182:
Why don't they choose Ghana? or Nigeria. You see - you idiots - exports all the oil/gold money to South Africa, Australia, US and UK - the money that could help develop your education.

Few South African universities are world class - no doubt - and so are a few elite schools. My kid is in South African private school in Kenya. But I am not talking about elite like me - who pay more than 10K dollars annually for primary kid - I am talking a BORNO Kid in Northern Nigeria.

Lol the comparism was about Kenya and SA edu. go let you puny brain cool off for a minute cos I see you are clearly losing it .you can barely think anymore..I guess you are delirious at the moment

A day old baby in naija when confronted with a choice btw SA and Kenya basic education will jump at that opportunity and choose SA..lol the baby would be like wtf is kenya

Lol you said SA have few world class unis, pls which one do Kenya have as a country... certainly no world class University exist in huruma-land

rvp20182:
The amount of FDI flowing to the Kenya retail sector now is staggering. Start with French CarreFour. The Norwegian fund and others are throwing serious money.

Again, to become, 2nd to south africa, in malls, is a lot of hardwork and brains.

Lol and it will stagger more..darker days are looming

@bolded no it's alot of lies and village firewood cooking

rvp20182:
You're afraid to read because it shatters your little Nairaland baseless point. The premise is based on empirical data.

No it is because it is written by idiots like you

rvp20182:
That is a misconception. Supermarkets and malls are cheaper. . The luxury stores and brands around the malls are expensive. But manufacturer will give a HUGE discount to supermarket chain...and they will transfer it to consumer. And that is how they become popular. Kenya started about 20yrs this push..and now we are about 40% shopping in formal retails..malls, supermarket..and 60% still doing the nonsense you're talking about...and rate of conversion is high. Even people in rural areas - realize how cheaper it is to shop once in supermarket - than buy small and expensive.

You think shopping in malls is just about buying discount Chinese product at a give away price . it is way more than that. there is this psychological concept of buying more than what you bargain for? hardly can scale of preference works for mall shoppers. because the more you see the more you wanted to buy, and coupled with the discount price, you are 100 percent likely to shop more than an individual who rather cut her coat according to her cloth in open market.

Yes, I got to run buy some milk before our night curfew kicks in. As for you buddy, grab some book. Start with grade 4 Maths and English. And maybe one day you'll write something intelligent.

samorobo:


Lol the comparism was about Kenya and SA edu. go let you puny brain cool off for a minute cos I see you are clearly losing it .you can barely think anymore..I guess you are delirious at the moment

A day old baby in naija when confronted with a choice btw SA and Kenya basic education will jump at that opportunity and choose SA..lol the baby would be like wtf is kenya

Lol you said SA have few world class unis, pls which one do Kenya have as a country... certainly no world class University exist in huruma-land

Supermarket the world over are cheaper, more convenient, and almost preferred to your open-air market. Let us just say you're still primitive with quite some advancing to do, in a short time. Formal retail is critical for the advancement of the economy. Ask the South African to help you. Seem you prefer their schools and teachers anyway.

vaxx:
You think shopping in malls is just about buying discount Chinese product at a give away price . it is way more than that. there is this psychological cincecpt of buying more than what you bargain for? hardly can scale of preference works for mall shoppers. because the more you see the more you wanted to buy, and coupled with the discount price, you are 100 percent likely to shop more than an individual who rather cut her coat according to her cloth in open market.

vaxx:
A larger chunk of the population will prefer to go shopping at kambi muru open market rather than west gate mall. it is about 'cost'" . that luxury to shop in malls is not available to over 60 percent urban Kenyans who lives in slum .

No I don't think it is the cost...Things in supermarket are relatively almost thesame price if not lesser than those sold in informal stores... except if the reverse is the case in Kenya
I think.it is about the income
How many Kenyans can afford to rent a space in a mall with their meagre income.

rvp20182:
Supermarket the world over are cheaper, more convenient, and almost preferred to your open-air market. Let us just say you're still primitive with quite some advancing to do, in a short time. Formal retail is critical for the advancement of the economy. Ask the South African to help you. Seem you prefer their schools and teachers anyway.

The research about Nairobi shoppers indicate majority will rather shop openly rather than malls. And the fact is not far fetched, 60 percent of nairobians are slums dwellers who lives from hand to mouth. shopping in luxury stalls is way above bills for them .

Your country can only correct that by improving the living standard of her populace.

no sound economics will undervalued informal sector except you analphabetic slowpoke.

vaxx:
You think shopping in malls is just about buying discount Chinese product at a give away price . it is way more than that. there is this psychological concept of buying more than what you bargain for? hardly can scale of preference works for mall shoppers. because the more you see the more you wanted to buy, and coupled with the discount price, you are 100 percent likely to shop more than an individual who rather cut her coat according to her cloth in open market.

This is also true..you are tempted to buy more even though you know you are not financially stable for it... because people around you are moving around with filled trolley not empty ones....
No one wants to walk into a mall and come out with a bottle of coke...there is a shame such fellow might feel even though you will barely be noticed..

rvp20182:
Yes, I got to run buy some milk before our night curfew kicks in. As for you buddy, grab some book. Start with grade 4 Maths and English. And maybe one day you'll write something intelligent.

Lol the tantrums..don't come here heckling about SA and Kenya basic education...The former surpasses you in that aspect and all aspect actually

samorobo:


This is also true..you are tempted to buy more even though you know you are not financially stable for it... because people around you are moving around with filled trolley not empty ones....
No one wants to walk into a mall and come out with a bottle of coke...there is a shame such fellow might feel even though you will barely be noticed..

factuality does not work for RVP. he is so dumb. I guess he lives in his own world.

vaxx:
factuality does not work for RVP. he is so dumb. I guess he lives in his own world.

The alternative universe of kibera

rvp20182:
If we were to remove all usernames here - I can almost tell something written by a kenyan. Kenya education is just too high for SSA standards. Majority of what I read from you guys is horrible. Right from the English to the zero Analytical Thinking. And I am not biased against any country.

Most of you are FUNCTIONALLY ILLITERATE.

During our time in schools - you'd be canned till near death for what you always write here.

Your numeracy skills are pathetic, and everyone knows that. You've displayed exactly that several times for us to see and have been called out repeatedly.

You are the last person to talk about display of poor education here. I don't want to go to how you write or reason.

samorobo:


No I don't think it is the cost...Things in supermarket are relatively almost thesame price if not lesser than those sold in informal stores... except if the reverse is the case in Kenya
I think.it is about the income
How many Kenyans can afford to rent a space in a mall with their meagre income.

it is cost . hardly can budget works for mall shoppers. Though malls are relatively less costly thru out the world but they are also into serious business to dry you up. from promotion ( buy 2 take 1 free) to give away prices ( well discounted prices) this method are there for you to keep buying. it is marketing psychology.

rvp20182:
Ignoring the nonsense - tell us how 400B dollars economy can only have cargo throughput of 1.8M. Your biggest port is not even in Africa top 10.

The top 10 look like this - Egypt Port said 3.5M - Morroco Tanger 3M - South Africa Durban 2.7M -Egypt Port Alexandria 1.6M - Mombasa 1.4m *TEUS

Nigeria Apapa port is NOT even doing 0.5M . Apapa and TinCan - combined - they are doing 1.2M. That is how COOKED your economy really is.

Please lie to the South African who is looking for online support...

As for me - I can single-handily handle you and your entire clan - as long as you keep it mildly cerebral.

Apapa and Tin Can are in the same city. They are doing above 1.8m combined. Mombasa with its cooked data is doing about 1.4m. Still less than Nigeria.

samorobo:


No I don't think it is the cost...Things in supermarket are relatively almost thesame price if not lesser than those sold in informal stores... except if the reverse is the case in Kenya
I think.it is about the income
How many Kenyans can afford to rent a space in a mall with their meagre income.

You are correct, Sammy. I think this is why Nakumatt, Kenya's biggest supermarket collapsed. Their current champion, Naivasa Supermarket has been struggling for 2 years and laying off staff. Choppies and Shoprite are closing shops in Kenya.

vaxx:
The research about Nairobi shoppers indicate majority will rather shop openly rather than malls. And the fact is not far fetched, 60 percent of nairobians are slums dwellers who lives from hand to mouth. shopping in luxury stalls is way above bills for them .

Your country can only correct that by improving the living standard of her populace.

no sound economics will undervalued informal sector except you analphabetic slowpoke.

True

obaaderemi:
You are correct, Sammy. I think this is why Nakumatt, Kenya's biggest supermarket collapsed. Their current champion, Naivasa Supermarket has been struggling for 2 years and laying off staff. Choppies and Shoprite are closing shops in Kenya.

I believe when your check their formal sector won't be up to 40% has rvp has been yapping ...it should be doing 18-20% with all this supermarket packing up .

Actually I struggled a lot with English and Swahili. I was born a math genius. The stuff you try to trip me with are figures I just throw out. - guestimates.

obaaderemi:
Your numeracy skills are pathetic, and everyone knows that. You've displayed exactly that several times for us to see and have been called out repeatedly.

You are the last person to talk about display of poor education here. I don't want to go to how you write or reason.

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2000192043/kenya-has-second-most-developed-retail-sector-in-africa

This was 5yrs ago.

In comparison to other African markets, Kenya’s formal retail penetration rate, which ranges from 30 per cent to 40 per cent, is the second highest in Sub-Saharan Africa and this places the country at roughly half the level of South Africa, where formal retail is estimated to stand at 60 per cent of overall activity, but twice that of Nigeria.”


Now we are surely in 40%.

Nigeria is the one at 18-20%.

South Africa is 70-80%

samorobo:


I believe when your check their formal sector won't be up to 40% has rvp has been yapping ...it should be doing 18-20% with all this supermarket packing up .

Do research first. Both Apapa and TinCan were 1.2M last year or around 1.3M . I.8M include the Nigerian eastern ports- like Port Harcourt. Your fake GDP simply doesn't make sense. South Africa are close to 5M TEUS.

One Egyptian port does 3.5M - and the next Egyptian port does 1.6M.
--- maybe they have Suez Canal - but still
Kenya probably handles 1.5-1.6M for all ports - Nigeria 1.8M - and you claim to be 400B dollar economy - powered by what??

obaaderemi:
Apapa and Tin Can are in the same city. They are doing above 1.8m combined. Mombasa with its cooked data is doing about 1.4m. Still less than Nigeria.

A real primitive.

vaxx:
it is cost . hardly can budget works for mall shoppers. Though malls are relatively less costly thru out the world but they are also into serious business to dry you up. from promotion ( buy 2 take 1 free) to give away prices ( well discounted prices) this method are there for you to keep buying. it is marketing psychology.

Austine1213:


Do not confuse development with big GDP

In term of development GHANA, SWAZILAND, RWANDA, NAMIBIA, ETC are doing better than kenya

please bro, tell us how Ghana is more developed than kenya.

Kenya black-owned supermarket malls or supermarket chains - have maybe 500 stores now. South Africa probably have 3000 (if you exclude food stores, cloth stores, etc) - at least Shoprite South Africa has about 1,000 supermarket stores in South Africa -

Tuskys, Naivas and Quickmatt each have about 60 something - that is nearly 200 stores - that is Tier 1 in Kenya. We still have Shoprite(SA), Botswana dying thing Choppies, and French CarreFour in "tier' one - few stores but large stores. Karen Carrefour yearly gross maybe 50M dollars sales. Nakumatt is down and out - maybe 2 stores now.

Now below that are many small chains. And like Naivas, Tuskys and Quickmatta - these are own by black kenyans.

French Carrefour have 7 stores and they are grossing nearly 200M dollars in sales annually
https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Carrefour-records-Sh18-7bn-sales-in-Kenya/996-5517414-1rok51z/index.html

obaaderemi:
You are correct, Sammy. I think this is why Nakumatt, Kenya's biggest supermarket collapsed. Their current champion, Naivasa Supermarket has been struggling for 2 years and laying off staff. Choppies and Shoprite are closing shops in Kenya.

QuietMynd:

Your pictures are not loading. Can you re-upload

Shma:
please bro, tell us how Ghana is more developed than kenya.

Development is more than just skyscrapers, or a nice looking city

Shma:
please bro, tell us how Ghana is more developed than kenya.

Human development index explain it in a plain language

Austine1213:


Development is more than just skyscrapers, or a nice looking city

Kenya don't have it better than Ghana in this as well.

Austine1213:


Development is more than just skyscrapers, or a nice looking city

and if we say we're on the Same level with Ghana?
With population not being factored?

Kaz kaz see this mountain we have stolen it
Athi river town kenya

rvp20182:
Supermarket the world over are cheaper, more convenient, and almost preferred to your open-air market. Let us just say you're still primitive with quite some advancing to do, in a short time. Formal retail is critical for the advancement of the economy. Ask the South African to help you. Seem you prefer their schools and teachers anyway.

Supermarkets are not always cheaper.But they are always more convenient. The south Africa which you always try to compare doesn't support your idea.There are a lot of stuff which are more expensive in SA supermarkets than buying the same things on open space,or street vendors or even at other small shops.So No,supermarkets are not always cheaper,but they are in most cases more expensive.
I really need to teach you a lot on this issue.