Maximus69:


You don't know the meaning of Temple in a spiritual sense and to worship in SPIRIT and TRUTH my friend, but let me help you!

The Temple before Jesus came to the earth was situated in Jerusalem, so whoever wants to worship God acceptably must get there {John 4:20-22} but when Jesus began his ministry a Christian becomes God's Temple {1Corinthians 6:19} so people must feel the effect of pure worship in us.
If you're of God's spirit you will love us for upholding pure worship, {Matthew 5:16} but if God's spirit is not operating in you, this is what you'll be looking forward to do. John 17:14

Delusions!

Arguing arguing and arguing against pure worship, you'll finds yourself opposing just one single form of worship when you can't stand up for any, so it will be as if you approve all forms of worship except one! Matthew 10:22; Act 24:5-6

That's why I'll keep saying it that you're a hypocrite, grade A one....

I've shown you that you're the very type that should be called ARGUMENTATIVE which you even concor.

Here again claiming someone is arguing...

When it's evident that you're the delusional argumentative person on Nairaland.

Maximus69:


The title "Pastor" is the problem!

In the first century all the Christians see one another as brothers, the only spiritual head is Christ! Matthew 23:8-12

So when Peter denied Jesus (something Jesus himself count as a serious sin) this same Peter continued to lead the Apostles. Even when he fumbled by letting himself to be carried away by the spirit of nepotism, Apostle Paul corrected him.
In all of this, Peter remains one of the 12 Apostles!

So how do we get a balance view?

Sin is what we were born with, this means none of us is perfect except our Lord and Master (Jesus Christ).

Jesus said we should be prepared to assist one another to keep the faith alive in us. Therefore certain measures should be taken to help the brother that has been overwhelmed by the spirit of the world.
But if he resists the help of God's holy spirit, then he must be disfellowshiped no matter his part in the congregation of God!

The word Pastor is not a title.
Have u forgotten that He gave some Pastors, some Apostles, some Prophet..... For d work of the ministry... For edification of the saints.....
So it is God that gives who He called the Name.

I fink it's all depends on so many factors.
The pastor needs to stop officiating first and work on his repentance.
U know the Bible talks about not letting u been a stumbling block to the salvation of others. The leaders need to watch out for the babes in christ so as to not let them fall.
When reinstating the pastor back after true repentance, I fink the congregation needs to know and explain to reason behind it by the leaders of the church.

Thanks for your time and data!

Emusan:

Delusions!
That's why I'll keep saying it that you're a hypocrite, grade A one....
I've shown you that you're the very type that should be called ARGUMENTATIVE which you even concor.
Here again claiming someone is arguing...
When it's evident that you're the delusional argumentative person on Nairaland.

Emusan:


The @color part is enough for open-minded people to see the level of your hypocrisy!

But unfortunately just the way many Christians holds their pastors as god just exactly the same way JWs place GB as god!

Perhaps we should ask Maximus69, is the word "Governing Body" a VERB or a NOUN. He might not really understand it. This will show maybe its title or NOT.

Emusan:


The @color part is enough for open-minded people to see the level of your hypocrisy!

But unfortunately just the way many Christians holds their pastors as god just exactly the same way JWs place GB as god!

He simply does not understand the COLOURED PART.


the group NAME Governing Body simply means the distinguished NAME/TITLE given to EIGHT members at the HEADQUARTERS of JWS overseeing the activities of God's people globally during this end time.

He simply does not understand that TITLE itself means "A DISTINGUISHING NAME". So GB is a TITLE that distinguish them from any other member of the organization.

achorladey:


He simply does not understand the COLOURED PART.


the group NAME Governing Body simply means the distinguished NAME/TITLE given to EIGHT members at the HEADQUARTERS of JWS overseeing the activities of God's people globally during this end time.

He simply does not understand that TITLE itself means "A DISTINGUISHING NAME". So GB is a TITLE that distinguish them from any other member of the organization.

That's what delusion can cause!

You can see how to justify the use of Governing Body something that can't even be found in the scripture but can quickly condemn the Title Pastor

I believe if his type was around at the time of the Apostles, he will condemn them for attaching the Title Apostle to their names!

Emusan:


That's what delusion can cause!

You can see how to justify the use of Governing Body something that can't even be found in the scripture but can quickly condemn the Title Pastor

I believe if his type was around at the time of the Apostles, he will condemn them for attaching the Title Apostle to their names!

Hypocrite, Where is Emusan written in your Bible?

Janosky:


Hypocrite, Where is Emusan written in your Bible?

You don't need responding to antagonists who don't want the truth!
Jesus taught us not to attach importance to religious titles they ignored his counsel, they're even addressing themselves with the titles before unbelievers who have no business with the Bible!
And now they want to justify their lawlessness by pointing accusing fingers at the group name of the overseers of another Organization, whose members will never address themselves with religious titles!

Oh no my brother, just leave them with their unbelief!

Was King David dethroned when his case was worse?

Janosky:


Hypocrite, Where is Emusan written in your Bible?

In essence Governing Body no dey your BIBLE. Correct?

Janosky:


Hypocrite, Where is Emusan written in your Bible?

So you agree Governing Body is a Title.....

You don't even understand the point being discussed yet you jumped in like kangaroo....

Maximus69:


You don't need responding to antagonists who don't want the truth!
Jesus taught us not to attach importance to religious titles they ignored his counsel, they're even addressing themselves with the titles before unbelievers who have no business with the Bible!
And now they want to justify their lawlessness by pointing accusing fingers at the group name of the overseers of another Organization, whose members will never address themselves with religious titles!

Oh no my brother, just leave them with their unbelief!

Imagine, a delusional baby JW advising an old delusional JW of the same feather....

So Jesus gave some people Title

The early Christians even addes Apostles to their names, so they ignored Jesus counsel too bah

Emusan:


So you agree Governing Body is a Title.....

Of course "Emusan" is not a title but your profile name on Nairaland, it's impossible to meet someone for the for time and start addressing yourself as "Emusan on Nairaland"!

But Nairalanders know the house name!

The same goes with religious titles, that's why Jesus strictly warned his followers not to address him with the religious title "Christ" until his departure. Matthew 16:20

So in the same way titles like Apostles, Disciples, Evangelists, Pastors, Shepherds, Prophets are not supposed to be attached to our names, it's the work that should speak for itself! John 4:19

We have Apostles, Evangelists, Pastors, Shepherds, Prophets and so on in our midst, but they will never introduce themselves as such.

Today my brother and i visited one of my Bible students to study the Bible with him, of course his neighbour called me "Pastor" not because i presented myself as one nor do i ever attach the title to my name.
But because everyone in the yard has been noticing the changes in the attitude of my Bible student!

Emusan:


Imagine, a delusional baby JW advising an old delusional JW of the same feather....

So Jesus gave some people Title

The early Christians even addes Apostles to their names, so they ignored Jesus counsel too bah

Can you quote where the Bible mentioned anyone like

Apostle Paul, Apostle Peter or Prophet Daniel?

What you will see is an Apostle or Prophet referred to as
"Apostle of Christ or Prophet/Man of God"

You can never find anywhere in the Bible where the title is attached to their names!

So true believers don't attach the titles to their names, though they're serving in that capacity!

OLAADEGBU:


Where is your alter ego BudaAtum?

budaatum is no "alter ego".

Maximus69:


Can you quote where the Bible mentioned anyone like

Apostle Paul, Apostle Peter or Prophet Daniel?

What you will see is an Apostle or Prophet referred to as
"Apostle of Christ or Prophet/Man of God"

You can never find anywhere in the Bible where the title is attached to their names!

So true believers don't attach the titles to their names, though they're serving in that capacity!

The main issue is even if undeniable facts are staring you face to face, you will turn blind eyes to to them and still wallow in your delusions.

The most astonished part is how someone who claimed to be a follower of Christ and upholding the Word of God can still boldly lie against the same Word without fear.

Paul and Peter attached APOSTLE to their names and even the Old Testament prophets aren't left behind.

But your problem is that you're too delusional and brainwashed by watchtower that you can't see truth from the Scripture itself.

Emusan:


The main issue is even if undeniable facts are staring you face to face, you will turn blind eyes to to them and still wallow in your delusions.

The most astonished part is how someone who claimed to be a follower of Christ and upholding the Word of God can still boldly lie against the same Word without fear.

Paul and Peter attached APOSTLE to their names and even the Old Testament prophets aren't left behind.

But your problem is that you're too delusional and brainwashed by watchtower that you can't see truth from the Scripture itself.

Paul wrote Letters to many Congregations of early Christians in different Cities, he always introduced himself thus :" Paul , called to be an apostle of Jesus...." etc.
Likewise,Peter "a slave and apostle of Jesus.".
Aside that, NONE of them affixed "Apostle Paul" or "Apostle Peter" to their names elsewhere in your Bible..
Hebrews 3:1, Jesus is an apostle too. Was he ever addressed as "Apostle Jesus"?
Emusan NO ADD maggi and crayfish..

Emusan,DONT tell LIES, no Prophet affixed that title to his name, NONE AT ALL !

Maximus69:


Can you quote where the Bible mentioned anyone like

Apostle Paul, Apostle Peter or Prophet Daniel?

What you will see is an Apostle or Prophet referred to as
"Apostle of Christ or Prophet/Man of God"

You can never find anywhere in the Bible where the title is attached to their names!

So true believers don't attach the titles to their names, though they're serving in that capacity!

The point is noted.
"True believers don't attached titles to their names, though they are serving in that capacity.."

Janosky:

Paul wrote Letters to many Congregations of early Christians in different Cities, he always introduced himself thus :" Paul , called to be an apostle of Jesus...." etc.
Likewise,Peter "a slave and apostle of Jesus.".
Aside that, NONE of them affixed "Apostle Paul" or "Apostle Peter" to their names elsewhere in your Bible..
Hebrews 3:1, Jesus is an apostle too. Was he ever addressed as "Apostle Jesus"?
Emusan NO ADD maggi and crayfish..

Emusan,DONT tell LIES, no Prophet affixed that title to his name, NONE AT ALL !


The point is noted.
"True believers don't attached titles to their names, though they are serving in that capacity.."

He's one of the brothers of the rich man in Jesus' illustration about Lazarus! Luke 16:19-31

So let him continue begging for drops of water to cool his tongue, as he suffers from the agony of torment!

They're crying bitterly because Jehovah's Witnesses are preaching the undiluted truth, they are in pains because they can run but they can't hide!

Janosky:

Paul wrote Letters to many Congregations of early Christians in different Cities, he always introduced himself thus :" Paul , called to be an apostle of Jesus...." etc.
Likewise,Peter "a slave and apostle of Jesus.".
Aside that, NONE of them affixed "Apostle Paul" or "Apostle Peter" to their names elsewhere in your Bible..
Hebrews 3:1, Jesus is an apostle too. Was he ever addressed as "Apostle Jesus"?
Emusan NO ADD maggi and crayfish..

Emusan,DONT tell LIES, no Prophet affixed that title to his name, NONE AT ALL !

Despite the fact that I added four pictures which show where Paul and Peter attached the Title Apostle to their names you can still spew this thrash!

If I introduced my self as "Emusan an Engineer of Almadu Bello University"

Did I attached the Title Engineer to myself or to that University?

The scripture always introduces the prophets of Old as Prophet Elijah, by Isaiah the Prophet, by Jeremiah the Prophet e.t.c which is evident that Bible actually attached this Title to their names!

Yet you clown still twisting the scripture.

The point is noted.
"True believers don't attached titles to their names, though they are serving in that capacity.."

So Russell and those his successors aren't true Christians because they attached the Title "PRESIDENT" to their names.

I said it, JWs and hypocrisy are conjoined twins.

In other to pull others down you won't know the time you'll pull yourself down!

Emusan:


Despite the fact that I added four pictures which show where Paul and Peter attached the Title Apostle to their names you can still spew this thrash!

If I introduced my self as "Emusan an Engineer of Almadu Bello University"

Did I attached the Title Engineer to myself or to that University?

The scripture always introduces the prophets of Old as Prophet Elijah, by Isaiah the Prophet, by Jeremiah the Prophet e.t.c which is evident that Bible actually attached this Title to their names!

Yet you clown still twisting the scripture.



So Russell and those his successors aren't true Christians because they attached the Title "PRESIDENT" to their names.

I said it, JWs and hypocrisy are conjoined twins.

In other to pull others down you won't know the time you'll pull yourself down!

Is engineer a religious title?

Or can you post where any of JWs publication addresses any of the past president of the Watchtower as
President Russell or President Rutherford?

What Jesus said is clear, "none of my own followers should address himself with a religious title" Matthew 23:7-9

So you can continue deceiving yourself!

Emusan:


Despite the fact that I added four pictures which show where Paul and Peter attached the Title Apostle to their names you can still spew this thrash!

If I introduced my self as "Emusan an Engineer of Almadu Bello University"

Did I attached the Title Engineer to myself or to that University?

The scripture always introduces the prophets of Old as Prophet Elijah, by Isaiah the Prophet, by Jeremiah the Prophet e.t.c which is evident that Bible actually attached this Title to their names!

Yet you clown still twisting the scripture.



So Russell and those his successors aren't true Christians because they attached the Title "PRESIDENT" to their names.

I said it, JWs and hypocrisy are conjoined twins.

In other to pull others down you won't know the time you'll pull yourself down!

@ The BOLDED is Emusan LIES and FICTION.
ZERO PROOF for his fictitious claims..

In Emusan dreams Mr Russell addressed himself as "President Russell".

In their conversations in the holy Bible (aside the first verse of chapter 1 of the Letters they wrote), NOBODY ELSE in the holy Bible addressed them as "Apostle Peter" etc ,Is that point too difficult for you to understand?

For example, 1 Cor 3:4, did he address himself as "Apostle Paul" ?

Janosky:


@ The BOLDED is Emusan LIES and FICTION.
ZERO PROOF for his fictitious claims..

In Emusan dreams Mr Russell addressed himself as "President Russell".

In their conversations in the holy Bible (aside the first verse of chapter 1 of the Letters they wrote), NOBODY ELSE in the holy Bible addressed them as "Apostle Peter" etc ,Is that point too difficult for you to understand?

For example, 1 Cor 3:4, did he address himself as "Apostle Paul" ?

I thought you quoted the Bible book of 1Corinthians 3:4

Janosky:


@ The BOLDED is Emusan LIES and FICTION.
ZERO PROOF for his fictitious claims..

In Emusan dreams Mr Russell addressed himself as "President Russell".

In their conversations in the holy Bible (aside the first verse of chapter 1 of the Letters they wrote), NOBODY ELSE in the holy Bible addressed them as "Apostle Peter" etc ,Is that point too difficult for you to understand?

For example, 1 Cor 3:4, did he address himself as "Apostle Paul" ?

This was your lie which I busted "Aside that, NONE of them affixed "Apostle Paul" or "Apostle Peter" to their names elsewhere in your Bible..

After this you're now grasping for air to breath....

Your balloon of lies has been punched with a tiny needle.

The truth from the scripture is that both Paul and Peter ascribed the Title "APOSTLE" to themselves.


These are the list where Bible ascribed Title to people names even including Christ Himself.

1. Jeremiah 23:9 Jeremiah himself.
2. Luke 4:17, Luke 4:27 where Christ ascribed the Title Prophet to Isaiah
3. 2 Chronicles 32:32 the Title Prophet was ascribed to Isaiah
4. 2 Chronicles 36:12 the Title Prophet was ascribed to Jeremiah
5. Ezra 6:14 the Title Prophet was ascribed to Haggai

And many more so your lies can't hold anymore.

Maximus69:
Is engineer a religious title?

Illiteracy is worrying you.....

And finding a way dodge my question.

If I introduce myself as "Emusan an Engineer of Almadu Bello University"

Did I ascribe the Title Engineer to myself or the University?

Paul and Peter introduced themselves as "Paul an Apostle of Christ and Peter an Apostle of Chriat"

Was the Title attached to Paul and Peter or CHRIST?

Or can you post where any of JWs publication addresses any of the past president of the Watchtower as
President Russell or President Rutherford?

If they don't, that's their Own Cup of tea even thou it was written on Wikipedia as PASTOR RUSSELL but the truth is Bible ascribed Title to people's name.

What Jesus said is clear, "none of my own followers should address himself with a religious title" Matthew 23:7-9

Lying against Christ again...

The verse was about MASTER, is Master and Apostle, Prophet, Evangelist e.t.c the same?

Even Devil your father will be so disappointed about your ignorance.

So you can continue deceiving yourself!

Why you'll continue to wallow in your delusions, ignorance, lying and illiteracy.

Emusan:


This was your lie which I busted "Aside that, NONE of them affixed "Apostle Paul" or "Apostle Peter" to their names elsewhere in your Bible..

After this you're now grasping for air to breath....

Your balloon of lies has been punched with a tiny needle.

The truth from the scripture is that both Paul and Peter ascribed the Title "APOSTLE" to themselves.


These are the list where Bible ascribed Title to people names even including Christ Himself.

1. Jeremiah 23:9 Jeremiah himself.
2. Luke 4:17, Luke 4:27 where Christ ascribed the Title Prophet to Isaiah
3. 2 Chronicles 32:32 the Title Prophet was ascribed to Isaiah
4. 2 Chronicles 36:12 the Title Prophet was ascribed to Jeremiah
5. Ezra 6:14 the Title Prophet was ascribed to Haggai

And many more so your lies can't hold anymore.

Òpònú Olódo no yín Sir!

Jesus told his followers not to tell people that he is the Christ, to avoid attaching the title to him while he's still in their midst, but they should do so after he's gone.

Did you see anywhere his followers address him as Jesus Christ or Christ Jesus while he was still in their midst?

Well let's enlighten you Sir, it's after we're no more in your midst and unbelievers like you have missed the opportunity of identifying us that later generations will know who are those doing the work and those falsely attaching the titles to their names to call people's attention! Matthew 23:2-12

Maximus69:


Òpònú Olódo no yín Sir!

Jesus told his followers not to tell people that he is the Christ, to avoid attaching the title to him while he's still in their midst, but they should do so after he's gone.

Did you see anywhere his followers address him as Jesus Christ or Christ Jesus while he was still in their midst?

Well let's enlighten you Sir, it's after we're no more in your midst and unbelievers like you have missed the opportunity of identifying us that later generations will know who are those doing the work and those falsely attaching the titles to their names to call people's attention! Matthew 23:2-12

Delusion JWs....

If your lies and falsehood are busted, you stylishly come with a cover up just to divert attention from the main point.

Your cheap tactics won't work here...

The main point is, did Bible ascribe Title to peoples' name?

We can see from the scripture that the answer to that question is capital YES! Which you lied in the first place that it didn't.

Emusan:


Delusion JWs....

If your lies and falsehood are busted, you stylishly come with a cover up just to divert attention from the main point.

Your cheap tactics won't work here...

The main point is, did Bible ascribe Title to peoples' name?

We can see from the scripture that the answer to that question is capital YES! Which you lied in the first place that it didn't.

Argumentative Emusan!

Soothe yourself Sir!

Maximus69:


Argumentative Emusan!

Soothe yourself Sir!

You go see yourself for mirror last last.

See Person wey dey call others "OPONU OLODO".

SMH for you. Oga Maximus69 alias I am through with you.

achorladey:


You go see yourself for mirror last last.

See Person wey dey call others "OPONU OLODO".

SMH for you. Oga Maximus69 alias I am through with you.

Why not quote the Awake for the antijw virus patient (Emusan) and see how he will explode like a time bomb!

Maximus69:


Why not quote the Awake for the antijw virus patient (Emusan) and see how he will explode like a time bomb!

You don dey see yourself for mirror already.

The more you do, the more you discover who you ARE.

The antijw virus publicist.

Emusan:


1)
This was your lie which I busted "Aside that, NONE of them affixed "Apostle Paul" or "Apostle Peter" to their names elsewhere in your Bible..

After this you're now grasping for air to breath....

Your balloon of lies has been punched with a tiny needle.

The truth from the scripture is that both Paul and Peter ascribed the Title "APOSTLE" to themselves.

2).
These are the list where Bible ascribed Title to people names even including Christ Himself.

1. Jeremiah 23:9 Jeremiah himself.
2. Luke 4:17, Luke 4:27 where Christ ascribed the Title Prophet to Isaiah
3. 2 Chronicles 32:32 the Title Prophet was ascribed to Isaiah
4. 2 Chronicles 36:12 the Title Prophet was ascribed to Jeremiah
5. Ezra 6:14 the Title Prophet was ascribed to Haggai

And many more so your lies can't hold anymore.

1).
You don't have to TWIST my statement in order to protect your interests.
IT IS Emusan DISHONESTY.

Janosky Original Statement:

In their conversations in the holy Bible (aside the first verse of chapter 1 of the Letters they wrote), NOBODY ELSE in the holy Bible addressed them as "Apostle Peter" etc ,Is that point too difficult for you to understand?


**ANOTHER FACT:
1Cor 3:4-5, Paul NEVER arrogated the title of Apostle to himself (likewise Peter) as if it is GROSS SIN when anyone failed to call him "Apostle Paul".
I remember one Jankara Prof in my School way back in time long past, if you no call am him Church titles he go provoke like say you commit 'unforgiveable sin'....
The pompous demi god was thrown out of the System for copy,copy...
I no get time for him Nonsense !!


2).
Jeremiah 23:9 your claim is FALSE !

"Concerning the prophets. My heart within me is broken, all my bones shake; I am like a drunken man, and like a man whom wine hath overcome, because of Jehovah, and because of his holy words."

*Emusan 2-5, You simply confirmed that THIS FACT:
NONE of the old testament Prophets ascribed the title "Prophet" to themselves.
Other people in the Scriptures called them "Prophet" .
That's the point I am making.