poik:
God isnt sentimental. What is right and not worth punishing about insulting your mother and being rebellious to them? You think God wants them to end up like the heathen nations that have no regard for holiness and righteousness?

The people God loves and values He has high standards for. Let me even add. If a man marries a woman who is not a virgin, the father will throw the first stone and the elders will follow suit until she is dead.

You think this Hollywood that has shaped our thinking and value system makes God change or lightens the way He views sin? Think again.

God loves the Jews jealously, thats why He separated them and gave them His own set of rules. Apart from when they sin against their God, was there any time they lost any battle? Even now, can any country of the world match Israel in any ramification of life?

There you go.

bwaaaaah, so now these sets of rules are for jews only, abi?!?!?! what wont we read from you guys, i swear!!!!

ALL XTIANS ARE VIEWED THE SAME AND EXPECTED TO FOLLOW THE LAW....aka the commandment of your holybook

MrBrownJay1:


i dont need ANY proof, the words of your own BIBLE is the truth... it clearly says black on withe TWICE that any child who lays hand or disrespect his/her parents should be put to death... the above irrelevant questions you are asking (to try to smokescreen this issue) would be as stupid as saying that"because there is NO instance of people licking anuses in the bible, the bible is ok with you licking your woman's anus"... STOP WRITING RUBBISH ONLINE!!!!

your evil holybook is VERY clear on the issue.... you strike your parents or disrespect them, YOU SHOULD BE PUT TO DEATH!!!!
- just like that same evil holybook of yours forbids you from wearing clothes made from 2 different garments, which you cunningly dismiss for your selfish agenda, while it is clearly stated that you shouldnt!
- just like that same evil holybook of yours forbids you from trimming your beard, which you cunningly dismiss for your selfish agenda, while it is clearly stated that you shouldnt!
- just like that same evil holybook of yours forbids you from being circumcised, which you cunningly dismiss for your own selfish agenda, while it is clearly stated that you shouldnt!

same with shellfish, same with women braiding their hair or wearing makeup, same with women that can have no authority (nor teach) over man, same as women should be quiet in church etc etc etc

you people are demons!!!!!

The priest that raped you, did his gbola affect your brain ??
Very wicked priest!!!
You sound like you have mental hate for christianity because 1 priest tear your anus.
You will be alright
Since you have disagreed to provide proof after getting debunked and just blabbing looking for someone to argue with.
Nice talking with a dumb creature like you.
Your mumu is brighter than your future.
Goodnight

SultanOfPuna:


The priest that raped you, did his gbola affect your brain ??
Very wicked priest!!!
You sound like you have mental hate for christianity because 1 priest tear your anus.
You will be alright
Since you have disagreed to provide proof after getting debunked and just blabbing looking for someone to argue with.
Nice talking with a dumb creature like you.
Your mumu is brighter than your future.
Goodnight

i am just educating you with your own evil holybook verses... you think because i am an atheist i am as clueless as you are about whats is written in your evil book or what?! i probably know the teachings of your evil book better than most of you demons!!!

you should be quiet and just thank me for educating you, yeah!

MrBrownJay1:

MUMU!!!!
so far, only pedo catholic priest are raping children all over the world..

Oga Chairman of Raping Committee
Only you know who is raping who anywhere in the world..
Na you dey mark attendance for each rape
Your mama must be proud

SultanOfPuna:

Oga Chairman of Raping Committee
Only you know who is raping who anywhere in the world..
Na you dey mark attendance for each rape
Your mama must be proud

i dont care about what demons do in their spare times, but when highly respected xtian men of god are raping children ALL OVER THE WORLD (while using their evil bible) then yes, something is very wrong indeed.... and a confirmation that this is a religion of the DEVIL!!!

we are not talking of "one" priest here, we are talking THOUSANDS OF DEVILS IN ROBE!!!!

MrBrownJay1:


i am just educating you with your own evil holybook verses... you think because i am an atheist i am as clueless as you are about whats is written in your evil book or what?! i probably know the teachings of your evil book better than most of you demons!!!

you should be quiet and just thank me for educating you, yeah!

You misinterpret Bible verses and call it education??
Well I can't be wasting energy on low level creatures like you...

SultanOfPuna:

You misinterpret Bible verses and call it education??
Well I can't be wasting energy on low level creatures like you...

thank you sir, good night...

Deuteronomy 21:18-21
18 If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 .” 21 Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.

Exodus 21:15
“Whoever strikes his father or his mother shall be put to death.

Leviticus 20:9
“‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death. Because they have cursed their father or mother, their blood will be on their own head.

you xtians are the biggest HYPOCRITES known to man, see as one dude is saying that its ok to marry your cousin because someone did it in their evil holybook, YET it is the same person who will now tell us that fukcing women that you are not married to, is a sin.....while we all know that many highly respected men of that same evil holybook (Abraham, King David/Solomon) had countless of babymamas/mistresses and/or were fukcing women that they were not married to (aka confirmed fornicators!!!!!).... and they were never punish for it so long as these biitches were not already married to someone else (the only one of these highly respected men who was punished, was because he fukced a "married" woman)...

its called DOUBLE STANDARD where these people will use from their own holybook only what fits their selfish narrow minded agenda!

***spit on floor***

SultanOfPuna:
Show me where in the Bible that says marrying or fucking your cousin is a sin.

Jews during the time of Jesus married their cousin like their Arab neighbors.
Many references of cousins marrying in the Bible.

why is it a taboo??
I have done my research back in history
The only reason it is a taboo is because of the genetic problem that happen with inbreeding.
But having casual sex with a fine or handsome cousin is not a sin..
Impregnating your cousin is where the issue is due to inbreeding..
One of my best sex was with my maternal cousin Amanda..
We bleeped each other with passion and love almost every chance we had.
No omen, no curse, none of that African bullcrap about badluck.
She is now married a British consular and is living her best life..
I'm doing very well too
We still gist once in a while
Do not let dumb traditions of the past hold you from exploring your sexual desires.
Just be careful not to impregnate
But you two can fvck well well

Fornication alone is sin.

the truth hurts,didnt lots daughters 4uck their dad? was samson not betrayed by a prostitute?did christ chase mary Magdalene?did christ turn water into wine?did he curse an ordinary fig tree?did he cast demons into some peoples pigs causing them to drown?did he apologise?was john the beloved not his gay lover?the fact pointing would continue and wont stop,but people are free at last to choose what they want to believe and face the consequences.

SultanOfPuna:

See how dumb you are
Your father should have gambled with your school fees instead of wasting it on you..
Now let me school you dumbo
1. The passage says SON not child. It never said a rebellious child. If they were referring to stubborn kids. They will include rebellious child.

2. It says stubborn and rebellious son
A son which means a grown adult of a man. A grown up son who is into bad evil activities and disrespect his father and mother like being a cultists or an armed robber. A son in this context is a man who is an adult and held accountable for his wrong deeds. Not a child

3. No record EVER of stoning of a child in the history of isreal

4. Verse 21 says They shall say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard
Drunkard is a term used for adults again proving that Son in this context is an irresponsible adult that causes havoc in the community ,fights and drinks too much. Which child is reffered to as a drunkard
Next time think very well before you expose your low iq and disgrace yourself spewing trash online.

Your explanation is still begging the question that if someone is rebellious, stubborn, a glutton and a drunk, does it mean they should be stoned to death?

Will you advocate that for your child?

Quit with the semantics of "son", as every man is a son to someone, and son can never mean an adult!
The passage also didn't mention an adult as you stated, so where did you get your adult coinage from?

And stop calling people dumb to pass accross your thought, you don't even realize you are the one who made a dumb post.

ZINIBANKS:

Wayray and where in the Bible was that written

Do you know in france, iceland and most European countries cousin marriage is legal and to add to it the marriages are carried out in the church.
Aside from Isaac getting married to his cousin even Abraham whom we all claim lineage to married his step sister.

IamMichael:


Your explanation is still begging the question that if someone is rebellious, stubborn, a glutton and a drunk, does it mean they should be stoned to death?

Will you advocate that for your child?

Quit with the semantics of "son", as every man is a son to someone, and son can never mean an adult!
The passage also didn't mention an adult as you stated, so where did you get your adult coinage from?

And stop calling people dumb to pass accross your thought, you don't even realize you are the one who made a dumb post.

Use your common sense if you have any
Ask yourself
Can a Child be called a Drunkard
The son in the verse is reffered to as a drunkard, rebel member ( cultist) and is causing havoc to the society.
Harrasing and bullying people in the community.
Of course such a man should be brought to the council if elders
If found guilty of crimes he will be stoned to death.
Therby saving the community from daily fights, troblues and harrasment caused by the rebel son.
Again which Child is reffered to as a Drunkard??
Only an adult is reffered to as a drunkard

SultanOfPuna:

Use your common sense if you have any
Ask yourself
Can a Child be called a Drunkard
The son in the verse is reffered to as a drunkard, rebel member ( cultist) and is causing havoc to the society.
Harrasing and bullying people in the community.
Of course such a man should be brought to the council if elders
If found guilty of crimes he will be stoned to death.
Therby saving the community from daily fights, troblues and harrasment caused by the rebel son.
Again which Child is reffered to as a Drunkard??
Only an adult is reffered to as a drunkard

You are giving an interpretation not related to the subject of discourse.
This is what the book said:


Deuteronomy 21:18-21

18 If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town.

This chapter is self explanatory, so I don't understand why you are not comprehending it exactly as it is.
A son can be 17yrs old or 1yr old. In most jurisdictions of the world, a person who is 17yrs is called a child, and adulthood start's from 18yrs in most.
Definitely, a 17yrs old person can get drunk. Does it make him a grown adult?
You are limiting your own reasoning because you want to defend your religious faith indirectly, instead of actually understanding the context within which the verse was laid and all the different meanings that can be deducted from it.

Secondly, a rebellious and stubborn decides to impregnate a girl, and no matter what anyone said, he insists he is going to have the baby and marry the girl. He drinks a lot and eats too much, and probably in the past, he has been a play boy, and making out with girls, and the parents have been warning him to be careful, including severing his allowances and other benefits except he changes, but he refuses to change.
He was probably in his Fresherman in school when the girl got pregnant.
Are you going to drag him to the public to be stoned because of this since he fits the rebellious, stubborn, glutton and drunk definition you are stamping on the verse?

20 They shall say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.” 21 Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.

The main reason for it being mostly so that everyone will hear of it and be afraid? @bolded


It's obvious this section of the bible was written at a time when people didn't know about reformation centres and processes nor proper litigation channels and prisons to be advocating for such a barbaric act.

Have sex with your cousin if you want don't try to come force your mindset on others, there's a reason why even biology doesn't support inbreeding.
Use your head

MrBrownJay1:


at least, we can all confirm that these bastard pedo catholic priests are raping innocent kids all over the world, while preaching from that same evil holybook, lol!

RELIGION OF DEVILS with your evil holybook filled with murder, rape and countless other evil atrocities!!!!

***spit on floor***

Low budget atheist

Solsix:

Fornication alone is sin.

Don't mind the foolish boy.i don't want to talk much on this thread cos it is a cursed thread.let the op continue in his foolishness

Norphiee:
You said COUSIN Right?...but there is Sin at the back of the couSIN...I think it's clear

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digest your Bible well. and don't come and be telling us sin is at the back of cousin na English stress pattern we dey study

burner44:

Do you know in france, iceland and most European countries cousin marriage is legal and to add to it the marriages are carried out in the church.
Aside from Isaac getting married to his cousin even Abraham whom we all claim lineage to married his step sister.

Mr burner 44 which France the one you create or the one in Europe

Really I’ve got a big ass cousin....we nearly had sex one day like that but she said she can’t that we are blood

IamMichael:

You are giving an interpretation not related to the subject of discourse.
This is what the book said:


Deuteronomy 21:18-21
This chapter is self explanatory, so I don't understand why you are not comprehending it exactly as it is.
A son can be 17yrs old or 1yr old. In most jurisdictions of the world, a person who is 17yrs is called a child, and adulthood start's from 18yrs in most.
Definitely, a 17yrs old person can get drunk. Does it make him a grown adult?
You are limiting your own reasoning because you want to defend your religious faith indirectly, instead of actually understanding the context within which the verse was laid and all the different meanings that can be deducted from it.

Secondly, a rebellious and stubborn decides to impregnate a girl, and no matter what anyone said, he insists he is going to have the baby and marry the girl. He drinks a lot and eats too much, and probably in the past, he has been a play boy, and making out with girls, and the parents have been warning him to be careful, including severing his allowances and other benefits except he changes, but he refuses to change.
He was probably in his Fresherman in school when the girl got pregnant.
Are you going to drag him to the public to be stoned because of this since he fits the rebellious, stubborn, glutton and drunk definition you are stamping on the verse?

The main reason for it being mostly so that everyone will hear of it and be afraid? @bolded

It's obvious this section of the bible was written at a time when people didn't know about reformation centres and processes nor proper litigation channels and prisons to be advocating for such a barbaric act.

bro forget it, that dude will continue talking nonsense, while the verse clearly states "a rebellious child when they DISCIPLINE him".... do they discipline adults now?! there are too many xtians who read their holybook upside down, just to fit their selfish agenda...

the 3 verses i quoted are very clear about killing your disrespectful children

Solsix:
Fornication alone is sin.

many highly respected men of the bible were fornicators and your god had no problem with them.... so, if its ok for some to be fornicators, then it certainly is ok for EVERYBODY to fornicate (so long as it is not with a married woman)!

poik:


God isnt sentimental. What is right and not worth punishing about insulting your mother and being rebellious to them? You think God wants them to end up like the heathen nations that have no regard for holiness and righteousness?

The people God loves and values He has high standards for. Let me even add. If a man marries a woman who is not a virgin, the father will throw the first stone and the elders will follow suit until she is dead.

You think this Hollywood that has shaped our thinking and value system makes God change or lightens the way He views sin? Think again.

God loves the Jews jealously, thats why He separated them and gave them His own set of rules. Apart from when they sin against their God, was there any time they lost any battle? Even now, can any country of the world match Israel in any ramification of life?

There you go.

Stop responding to foolish people like him. Just reply K and scroll away. I know him physically and he depressed due to several family and financial issues.

ChizzyBuna:

I don't know the priest who raped and molested you bro.But don't take your anger on Christianity, you clearly sound like you were molested by a priest and now you have become atheist. What do I knw

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MrBrownJay1:


bro forget it, that dude will continue talking nonsense, while the verse clearly states "a rebellious child when they DISCIPLINE him".... do they discipline adults now?! there are too many xtians who read their holybook upside down, just to fit their selfish agenda...

the 3 verses i quoted are very clear about killing your disrespectful children

They are forced to understand thing's in the way they think will not be questioned because they think what they are saying is appealing to the ears.
But, it's just for dumb people who can't read and understand thing's for themselves.

MrBrownJay1:
you cannot be a hypocrite, you have to take EVERYTHING (that is written in the bible) for granted or nothing... that same holy book also tells you to murder your kids if they step out of line, would you also do it? it also says you should stone non virgins, would you also do that?!

Dude just STU pls...chuchuchuchuchu wetin u dey yarn sef

SultanOfPuna:
Show me where in the Bible that says marrying or fucking your cousin is a sin.


Jews during the time of Jesus married their cousin like their Arab neighbors.
Many references of cousins marrying in the Bible.

why is it a taboo??
I have done my research back in history
The only reason it is a taboo is because of the genetic problem that happen with inbreeding.
But having casual sex with a fine or handsome cousin is not a sin..
Impregnating your cousin is where the issue is due to inbreeding..
One of my best sex was with my maternal cousin Amanda..
We bleeped each other with passion and love almost every chance we had.
No omen, no curse, none of that African bullcrap about badluck.
She is now married a British consular and is living her best life..
I'm doing very well too
We still gist once in a while
Do not let dumb traditions of the past hold you from exploring your sexual desires.
Just be careful not to impregnate
But you two can fvck well well

As humans spread over the earth.
The bible clearly banned Such relations.

" No man among you should approach ANY OF his close relations to have sexual relations " Numbers 18:6

poik:


God isnt sentimental. What is right and not worth punishing about insulting your mother and being rebellious to them? You think God wants them to end up like the heathen nations that have no regard for holiness and righteousness?

The people God loves and values He has high standards for. Let me even add. If a man marries a woman who is not a virgin, the father will throw the first stone and the elders will follow suit until she is dead.

You think this Hollywood that has shaped our thinking and value system makes God change or lightens the way He views sin? Think again.

God loves the Jews jealously, thats why He separated them and gave them His own set of rules. Apart from when they sin against their God, was there any time they lost any battle? Even now, can any country of the world match Israel in any ramification of life?

There you go.

Very unintelligent post... Israelites that are the play things of every big empire that ever existed is who is loved by their God?

You guys should stop reasoning like cave men... Germany almost exterminated the Jews save for the rest of the world who decided to save them...same way the world saved Armenia from extermination at the hands of the Othman/Turks Empire... Nothing special.

You guys should stop living in fantasy... Yahweh is just a regional imaginary bloodthirsty god whom the Jews worshipped and fantasized about to save them from captivity when they were the whip boys of their fellow Arab clans... Every informed person knows that that is why the Israelites of yesteryears fantasized about the coming of a saviour, a saviour that will extinguish and kill their captors and set them free.
Something that is very common among helpless captives with no hope of human rescue..

Today, the Israelites know better than to leave themselves to the mercy of imaginary deities... reason why they have put numerous resources into developing highly advanced weapons of mass destruction...

USA, RUSSIA, CHINA, ENGLAND, can all destroy Israel within a blink... Please be properly guided.


Jesus and the new Testament is not part of Jewish religious beliefs and texts.. So next time you want to talk about Israel and Jesus, remember this fact very clearly...


Regards!!!

IamMichael:

They are forced to understand thing's in the way they think will not be questioned because they think what they are saying is appealing to the ears.
But, it's just for dumb people who can't read and understand thing's for themselves.

it is well known that most xtians dont think rationally, and this thread clearly shows us all that they actually believe they can selfishly disregard (for their own selfish agenda) whats written in their holybook. they can either take EVERYTHING written on that book or nothing, but they certainly cant pick and choose what they will follow and what they will dismiss, lol!

ArticleBeast:

Stop responding to foolish people like him. Just reply K and scroll away. I know him physically and he depressed due to several family and financial issues.

another daydreaming suffering xtians writing ARRANT RUBBISH online...

depressed ko, C-pressed ni!!!

have you even left Nigeria before to say you've met me? olodo!