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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:04am On May 06, 2020
rvp20182:
It's just a name suggestion. You'll have a referendum maybe and decide it. Like every modern democracy.

No we wont make peace with or go hang yourself

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 8:05am On May 06, 2020
rvp20182:
It's now outdated because the rand is taking water and sinking.

You see nominal GDP only make sense for North Korea kind of hermitic countries that are not connected internationally. But South Africa at it's level of development and global economy inter-connection - the nominal gdp and ppp - will trail each other. What is going to happen is inflation - will even things - and your GDP PPP will drop similarly.

The problem with GDP PPP - is not the defacto standards or even acceptable- so those PPPs are calculated like once every 15yrs - by some proffesors - because it's still a concept infancy.

It always been outdated when comparing countries to each other..... I've posted several sources that state this.

And GDP ppp is calculated yearly and it is the standard measurement of economic output fyi!!
It's not a falancy as some random software engineer calls it, but actually an improvement on GDP Nominal.

P. S you have already showed you ignorance with regards to simple accounting("profits are booked forward" lol grin grin) and now you are showing your ignorance with regards to economic matters!!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:06am On May 06, 2020
rvp20182:
Azania and Mzanzi sound great. Azania for the country. Mzanzi for the citizen.
stupid

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:08am On May 06, 2020
jl115:

It always been outdated when comparing countries to each other..... I've posted several sources that state this.

And GDP ppp is calculated yearly and it is the standard measurement of economic output fyi!!
It's not a falancy as some random software engineer calls it, but actually an improvement on GDP Nominal.

P. S you have already showed you ignorance with regards to simple accounting("profits are booked forward" lol grin grin) and now you are showing your ignorance with regards to economic matters!!

Please educate him lol

He needs it

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:10am On May 06, 2020
That a pretty raw nerve I touched there.
Austine1212:


No we wont make peace with or go hang yourself
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:10am On May 06, 2020
Do you know how GDP PPP is calculated? Explain to me. But let me help you. IMF/WB/some US universities collect market data like once 5-15yrs - and develop the PPP basket - and that becomes the basis for any calculation for the next few years. It cannot be done annually - because they have to collect global data!

So it lags behind - but USD is very accurate - because it's the global currency. That is why nominal GDP is used as the GOLD standard.

So methodology (PPP) is new - but the data is mostly outdated. And it really works for little countries in developed world - NOT SOUTH AFRICA. In fact for developed and mature economies - it has no difference - so USD pretty good indicator for RSA economy.

So what is happening you're quoting GDP PPP based on out-dated ppp basket while you have the rand telling you - your economy is taking WATER and sinking.

Sunk to 200B!!

jl115:

It always been outdated when comparing countries to each other..... I've posted several sources that state this.

And GDP ppp is calculated yearly and it is the standard measurement of economic output fyi!!
It's not a falancy as some random software engineer calls it, but actually an improvement on GDP Nominal.

P. S you have already showed you ignorance with regards to simple accounting("profits are booked forward" lol grin grin) and now you are showing your ignorance with regards to economic matters!!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by sherlock229(m): 8:41am On May 06, 2020
rvp20182:
I don't see any fire. I gave you a simple challenge - try get to Westland of 5yrs ago. The Westland of now and Nairobi generally is starting to challenge Joburg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QefIybvNsU&t=49s


Ikoyi looks far better than this jungle and you know it...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by wizzzmike: 8:49am On May 06, 2020
gallivant:


Listen robot, with such an attitude the war between humans and machines is inevitable. tongue lipsrsealed

dead brains ur jokes are too old I don't get you come again.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by sherlock229(m): 8:52am On May 06, 2020
samorobo:


Frauds..

Westland Nairobi without oil or gold:::: lol as it's should be grin

Those Kenyans like to photoshop too much. Fake sets of people.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 9:16am On May 06, 2020
rvp20182:
Do you know how GDP PPP is calculated? Explain to me. But let me help you. IMF/WB/some US universities collect market data like once 5-15yrs - and develop the PPP basket - and that becomes the basis for any calculation for the next few years. It cannot be done annually - because they have to collect global data!

So it lags behind - but USD is very accurate - because it's the global currency. That is why nominal GDP is used as the GOLD standard.

So methodology (PPP) is new - but the data is mostly outdated. And it really works for little countries in developed world - NOT SOUTH AFRICA. In fact for developed and mature economies - it has no difference - so USD pretty good indicator for RSA economy.

So what is happening you're quoting GDP PPP based on out-dated ppp basket while you have the rand telling you - your economy is taking WATER and sinking.

Sunk to 200B!!

LOL.........more ignorance, guess you never heard of extrapolating PPPs to non-benchmark years, or the fact that benchmark years are calculated every 3 years and not 5-15 years!! So yes GDP ppp is calculated yearly.

Secondly:

"The concept behind PPP is quite simple. You cannot always compare two countries in a meaningful way by comparing their GDPs at current exchange rates. Prices are different in different countries in ways that current exchange rates do not offset. This means that relative living standards are a function of more than just relative incomes."
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 9:26am On May 06, 2020
Extrapolated. Sounds like guesswork. GDP PPP is mostly calculated by World Bank's ICP - International Comparison Prog - and this was last done in 2011 I think. That is now nearly 10yrs.

The other people who do GDP PPP are the University of California (used to be the University of Pensyslavia) - and university of Gronigen through what is called the PWT (Penns World Table) - now that is in version 9.0

https://www.worldbank.org/en/programs/icp
https://www.rug.nl/ggdc/productivity/pwt/

Get it from me - the biggest problem with GDP PPP - is simple - apart from not taking care of the quality of goods and services - is that daunting task of collating global basket of goods and services..so GDP PPP is normally very outdated.

jl115:

LOL.........more ignorance, guess you never heard of extrapolating PPPs to non-benchmark years, or the fact that benchmark years are calculated every 3 years and not 5-15 years!! So yes GDP ppp is calculated yearly.

Secondly:

"The concept behind PPP is quite simple. You cannot always compare two countries in a meaningful way by comparing their GDPs at current exchange rates. Prices are different in different countries in ways that current exchange rates do not offset. This means that relative living standards are a function of more than just relative incomes."

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 9:35am On May 06, 2020
we will post Takoradi
Techiman
Suyani
Austine1213:


Is it possible fir kenyans not to post Nairobi and mombasa?

Ghana not to post accra and kumasi?

Nigeria not to post lagos and abuja?

Lol i wanna see something
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by leo552: 9:43am On May 06, 2020
Shma:


Now ladies and gentlemen, if you're engaging samorobo please take cool on her, you will actually be dealing with a dimwit, who knows rhetoric questions don't have question mark grin
And FYi(samlady), the more you try to act smart, the more you expose yourselfgrin

You are dumb bro cool
grin grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 9:45am On May 06, 2020
Another excuse for your debt economy

Even if we take 5 billon, we will be able to pay back, i cant say the same for you
rvp20182:
Compared to Ghana that took 1B dollars and Nigeria 3.5B dollars from the same IMF! yes Kenya is trapped. How will Nigeria pay for debt when your gov revenues are coming to Zero. Nada. Null. Naught.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 9:45am On May 06, 2020
rvp20182:
Man, those Tutsi clitoris you got there - mmh - remind me of western Uganda and Kigali - those women are crazy - with their Kunyaza. But honestly, why don't you like Tutsi - and you look like Ethiopia-phile.

That's why even in Tz all hotel beds are rubberised. Now you'll see why I say Kenyan women need to find a way to reduce their attitude even if only occasionally for just a nanosecond! Their unwarranted self esteem (narcissism is based solely on ignorance) Its nothing personal about Tutsis. Having seen and heard from Hutus,Congolese,Ugandans and Tutsis themselves in Kigali,Kampala and Nairobi I know who's responsible for the millions of deaths in the entire Great lakes since the 70s. In 2000 these mofos had actually invaded the CAR! Who does that?!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 9:46am On May 06, 2020
rvp20182:
SA economy and Joburg. Make a clear distinction. Yes Kenya is about 15yrs away from South Africa - but maybe 10yrs if you continue to scre.w up. Btw Nairobi and Joburg - 5-10yrs.
if SA grows at zero %

it will take kenya 40 years to catch up to their GDP
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 9:50am On May 06, 2020
He has no understanding of how GDP works
Austine1212:


Take nigeria few years back their currency devaluted from 160 to N300

Did they lose half their gdp?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 9:50am On May 06, 2020
You were debt forgiven about a 10yrs ago and you're back at it - eye-balled with debt now . Nigeria got forgiven 18B dollars worth of foreign debt - forget the exact number - and they again back at it. Such a waste of western money.

You cannot pay the debt! With what? Informal black economy? Or the dead as dodo oil and such sector.

Kenya has had ZERO debt forgiven in its entire history.

We have never defaulted - we have only asked for debt rescheduling.

Just under HIPC alone - Ghana got debt relief of[b] 3.5B dollars [/b]- and now they are back at it - the primitive informal economy cannot function in 21st century.

Just30:
Another excuse for your debt economy

Even if we take 5 billon, we will be able to pay back, i cant say the same for you

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 9:57am On May 06, 2020
Yes, very liberated women those Ugandans and Rwandese. I wish there was no lockdown - I would have gone there for a few days. I like Uganda. Rwandese are a bit up-tight because Kagame is running little North-Korea.

As for Tutsi men - they got an air of superiority - after sitting on local tribes for long.

kikuyu1:

That's why even in Tz all hotel beds are rubberised. Now you'll see why I say Kenyan women need to find a way to reduce their attitude even if only occasionally for just a nanosecond! Their unwarranted self esteem (narcissism is based solely on ignorance) Its nothing personal about Tutsis. Having seen and heard from Hutus,Congolese,Ugandans and Tutsis themselves in Kigali,Kampala and Nairobi I know who's responsible for the millions of deaths in the entire Great lakes since the 70s. In 2000 these mofos had actually invaded the CAR! Who does that?!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 9:58am On May 06, 2020
keep dreaming


always Astro projecting


Keep borrowing 6 billion to pay 6 billion every year
that is the dumbest way to use borrowed money.

At a time when your economy is facing huge BOP issues such that you have toborrow almost 2 billion from IMF and WB to sure up reserves
rvp20182:
You were debt forgiven about a 10yrs ago and you're back at it - eye-balled with debt now . Nigeria got forgiven 16B dollars worth of foreign debt - forget the exact number - and they again back at it. Such a waste of western money.

You cannot pay the debt! With what? Informal black economy? Or the dead as dodo oil and such sector.

Kenya has had ZERO debt forgiven in its entire history.

We have never defaulted - we have only asked for debt rescheduling.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 10:00am On May 06, 2020
So Ghana under HIPC - heavily indebted poor countries - did not receive debt relief of 3.5B dollars. That was in 2005. God knows how you managed to ratchet up that much debt when your gdp was probably 6B dollars.

Don't ever compare Kenya with Ghana or Nigeria in matters of macro-economics.

You're the poster child for the caricatured Africa monkey!
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-africa-bonds-local-analysis/a-decade-after-debt-forgiveness-africa-still-hooked-on-dollars-idUSKCN18F0I9

Just30:
keep dreaming


always Astro projecting


Keep borrowing 6 billion to pay 6 billion every year
that is the dumbest way to use borrowed money.

At a time when your economy is facing huge BOP issues such that you have toborrow almost 2 billion from IMF and WB to sure up reserves

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:01am On May 06, 2020
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 10:04am On May 06, 2020
obaaderemi:
Many good things, Kikuyuboy. But not a liar like you.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 10:08am On May 06, 2020
So basically

Kenya is at where Ghana was in the late 90s

That is how much poverty your economy has built up
rvp20182:
So Ghana under HIPC - heavily indebted poor countries - did not receive debt relief of 3.5B dollars. That was in 2005. God knows how you managed to ratchet up that much debt when your gdp was probably 6B dollars.

Don't ever compare Kenya with Ghana or Nigeria in matters of macro-economics.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 10:10am On May 06, 2020
Hobbit - sound argumentation 101. You make a case first. Before you draw a conclusion.

Just30:
So basically

Kenya is at where Ghana was in the late 90s

That is how much poverty your economy has built up

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:11am On May 06, 2020
Selected emerging economies ranked on four measures of financial strength

Our ranking is at 14, surpassing some of the major economies in Europe, South America, and Asia. Meanwhile, Kenya ranked at 42. cool cool cool cool cool

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 10:15am On May 06, 2020
rvp20182:
Hobbit - sound argumentation 101. You make a case first. Before you draw a conclusion.

Zombie nerve has been ratchet up
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 10:16am On May 06, 2020
When the denominator is fake GDP - Nigeria looks good - but in reality - it was using 75% of its revenue to pay debt. The world worst.
SkyOne11:
Selected emerging economies ranked on four measures of financial strength

Our ranking is at 14, surpassing some of the major economies in Europe, South America, and Asia. Meanwhile, Kenya ranked at 42. Ghana is even worse when ranked at 48. cool cool cool cool cool

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 10:17am On May 06, 2020
https://www.worldbank.org/en/topic/debt/brief/hipc . Look for Ghana there.
Kenya has never been a member of - Heavily Indebted Poor Country (HIPC) Initiative
That is for Ghana and such hopeless countries.
The only highway you have that is decent is a charity by George Walker Bush grin grin
Just30:
Zombie nerve has been ratchet up

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 10:19am On May 06, 2020
rvp20182:
https://www.worldbank.org/en/topic/debt/brief/hipc . Look for Ghana there.
Kenya has never been a member of - Heavily Indebted Poor Country (HIPC) Initiative
That is for Ghana and such hopeless countries.
Kenya is the poster boy of the GLOBAL DEPT TRAP

the only way kenya could build a Highway was to sell it sovereignty to China
That speaks to your level of poverty
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 10:21am On May 06, 2020
We have always had prudent financial management. Our debt plays around 40-60%. Right now we are debt refinancing - we are paying 6B dollars - and borrowing 6B dollars. Once the GDP grows and we are back to 40% - we will start leveraging - borrowing more than we repay. We never allow ourselves to take too much debt and crash our economy - and cry to world to come rescue us.

We got brains.

Just30:
Kenya is the poster boy of the GLOBAL DEPT TRAP

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 10:24am On May 06, 2020
rvp20182:
We have always had prudent financial management. Our debt plays around 40-60%. Right now we are debt refinancing. We never allow ourselves to take too much debt and crash our economy - and cry to world to come rescue us.

We got brains.

Your debt is 64% right now and that is only the official figure that could be traced

You have sunk yourself into so much debt such that the only way to pay at this moment is to borrow more money and build up more interest payment.

That is a hopeless case grin grin

No brain will run to UN to seek 265 million dollars of aid

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