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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 12:38pm On May 06, 2020
Austine1212:


Come on just post, other places

Are you scared?


Scared of what? We have posted all of Kenya and even some of Tanzania. From mountains, national parks, resorts, small towns etc. What exactly would you like to see?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:38pm On May 06, 2020
Shma:
hey! Hey! watch the words at bolded.
Please, we are allies with Ghanaians grin
We want to use them to destroy these Kenyans grin
Please, don't bash them grin abeg grin


Sorry. My bad. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:40pm On May 06, 2020
Shma:
but you have been to Nairobi, right?
Unless you're asking a rhetoric question.

Anyway, what's your point.
I don't get?

I wanna travel there again this time with a camera of cos, ill do Ghana and Nigeria if money will allow

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:42pm On May 06, 2020
gallivant:


Scared of what? We have posted all of Kenya and even some of Tanzania. From mountains, national parks, resorts, small towns etc. What exactly would you like to see?

I wasnt here, i wanna see yall towns, small towns and villages

Ordinary people live there after all

Fellow ghanians and Nigerians will join

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 12:46pm On May 06, 2020
Austine1212:


I wasnt here, i wanna see yall towns, small towns and villages

Ordinary people live there after all

Fellow ghanians and Nigerians will join


The Ghanaians won't. There is nothing worth posting from that inconsequential little country.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:49pm On May 06, 2020
gallivant:


Scared of what? We have posted all of Kenya and even some of Tanzania. From mountains, national parks, resorts, small towns etc. What exactly would you like to see?

undecided all of it? Villages, bundus, ghetto?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:01pm On May 06, 2020
Austine1212:


Come on just post, other places

Are you scared?

you mean kisumu, nakuru, machakos ,eldoret, kiambu, lamu, thika, Tatu city, e.t.c
We did that already, you can just scroll back and see.

And if I get idle once again I will do favour by posting them.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:05pm On May 06, 2020
Austine1212:


Post other cities with the same energy you been posting Nairobi and mombasa

Lol with a nice backdrop of mnt Kilimanjaro
even a Nigerian will disagree with you grin
How can they post anambra with the same energy they did to abuja? cheesy

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:09pm On May 06, 2020
Austine1212:


I wanna travel there again this time with a camera of cos, ill do Ghana and Nigeria if money will allow

come with a nice camera grin
I know the last time you were here, the likes of twin tower(CBK) 39,27fls, parliament tower 125m with underground tunnel, six great towers(30-45Fls ) and many many things were not there grin
This time round you will be shocked on what is going on in town grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:18pm On May 06, 2020
SkyOne11:



Sorry. My bad. grin
but once a man, always a man grin
You'll stand alone to defend your wife and children, and just like Galileo who stood alone and claim the earth is round we need to embrace it as men.
Truth will set you free.

Allies are for women and small kids grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:23pm On May 06, 2020
gallivant:


I don't get his issue either. sad
Rvp grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 1:27pm On May 06, 2020
mtisTheQubit:


Yes ..the idea is not togo overboard ..Dont go the American way or the North korea way..you will always end up messing upstuff

The American way is the best
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:47pm On May 06, 2020
rvp20182:
Gauteng (literally GOLD) - account for roughly 100B (about 35%) of your economy - and has Joburg, Pretoria. Meanwhile I have seen estimate that Nairobi accounts for as high as 50% of Kenya GDP - roughly 30% in my view. That is roughly 30-45B. So the gap btw Nairobi and Joburg is small.Joburg accounts for 1/3 of Gauteng GDP - or 15% of you national GDP (now 270B) - so we can assume as of today Nairobi has overtaken Joburg GDP
wise...again on a nominal basis (so you don't start long argument about GDP ppp)-- because 15% of 270=45B.

All these are increasingly evident if you look at the pictures of Nairobi and Joburg...the GAP IS NARROWING VERY FAST.


This guy you live in an alternate universe.....in that universe nairoslum has overtaken joburg..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:50pm On May 06, 2020
rvp20182:
This new one - from Samrobo. The pictures and the videos are edited smiley

There is nothing new...I have proven my claim...your unedited images is synonymous to what you get on YouTube..but the edited ones has features than never exist anywhere on earth...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:53pm On May 06, 2020
jl115:

Firstly I use GDP ppp as it is more relevant than GDP Nominal as I've explained previously.

Joburg gdp ppp: $120 billion
Nairobi gdp ppp: $45 billion

Gauteng gdp ppp: $280 billion
Kenya gdp ppp:$194 billion

P. S South Africas gdp nominal is $360 billion not $270 billiom

You finished him...No need to argue anymore grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 2:01pm On May 06, 2020
obaaderemi:
Still I refuse to go down to your frustrated level of name calling. It shows how much you have been frustrated here. grin

Now, let's talk oil and gas, because I have some investment in those. wink

Last year we exported about $40 bn worth of oil and gas. Right now we are about to finish the world's biggest refinery in Lagos. We just completed the world's biggest fertilizer plant.
We are currently losing some money in oil and gas but prices are rising again. grin
That's to show you Nigeria is not a backwater country like Kenya dependent on tea and coffee which fetched you less than $1bn last year and surely will fetch you less this year. I hope you are not jealous. wink

He is actually

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:03pm On May 06, 2020
tylann:

The American way is the best
eish msee..i know ya Trump guy but yawa grin grin America is not the best..time changed..I prefer Scandinavian countries or canada over states cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 2:05pm On May 06, 2020
rvp20182:
Sorry, but Obaboon kind of rhyme with a Zoogerian- and is very catchy. Obadeeremi sounds like wild vegetables in Kenya. You start insulting people calling them liars - when you cannot hold your ground.

I prefer clean conversation - so lets go with Oba.

Now Oba - Yes Dangote refinery is big news. That will save you at least 10-18B dollars of forex. Lets hope Dangote doesn't play his games - where he takes the market - and jack up the prize. There is no doubt Dangote's wealth will grow - if he can manage to pay up the debts. I think he is now leveraged to the gills. One engineering mistake from the Indians and Chinese - could bring him down.

Now when it comes to Tea & Economy - there is something in economics they call it MULTIPLIER. The manufacturing company has multiplier of 10. Oil industry like Nigeria maybe multiplier of 1 or zero. You don't need that many staff to ship out 100B dollars worth of oil.

Now our tea - provide income to 500,000 small scale tea holders - that is supported by about 100 tea factories - with so many trucks to get them to Mombasa - where is world biggest tea auction - and then they are exported (20% of all exports). We are still doing bulk sales - so hopefully we can move to higher-value chains...and really start selling branded tea all over the world.

What you need are such industries...that is why Indonesia and Malaysia are making more money from Palm Oil than your OIL.

Nigeria is backwater because you've allowed the economy to collapse save for Oil. Oil bring dollars but has very little multiplier...that explain why 140M Nigerians are very poor.


@ ist bolded it is $28bn actually.

@2nd bolded you are just being pessimistic and overly jealous as usual...2021 is not far..one could easily just say it is tomorrow...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 2:06pm On May 06, 2020
One word suffices here. DANGOTELAND. You've pinned your entire nation's future on one man, and his refinery grin. Nigeria a country of 200M - now depends on Dangote. What went wrong? As for Kenya - tea - name them - are just part of a well diversified economic engine - which ensure if one goes down - the others keep the economic engine running.

obaaderemi:
Childish and pained as usual. Never knew calling you people out for your lies could hurt you this much. grin I want you to keep up with the name calling so you can continue showing your pain. But I won't degenerate to your abysmally childish level. wink
Irrelevant. grin
You need not worry about Dangote Refinery and fertilizer plant. Everyone sane knows they are game changers which as you agreed would save Nigeria billions of dollars. Now what's going to save Kenya such money? I need answers. grin
Let me answer you with the world's biggest refinery which you already know about. It's also a petrochemical plant. Essential materials for industries will be produced at that refinery. Plastic industry for example will benefit greatly. You know there are few industries larger and more important than the plastic industry these days. That's going to be far larger than any multiplier effect from your puny tea industry. I've not even talked about petroleum jelly and lubricants which are huge industries also.
This is small fry compared to oil and gas. Besides, our cocoa industry is almost as big as your tea industry. So that takes care of this line of argument from you. Some of Africa's largest cocoa processing companies already have big factories in lagos. Talk of Nestle and cadbury. Not to mention numerous small scale factories. Can you mention such global players in your tea industry? I am waiting.
Nigeria is far more developed economically than you know, boy.
The same way India and Sri Lanka makes more money from tea than you do. grin
All of Africa is a backwater. But we know the biggest backwaters on the continent are in East Africa: Kenya, Ethiopia, Rwanda, Burundi, Somalia, etc.
You Are not only poor but starving seriously in biblical fashion. grin
Nigeria is Africa's largest economy. You don't call such a country a backwater. It has challenges but is still very important unlike your insignificant country with its tiny economy.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 2:07pm On May 06, 2020
Of the 200m Dangotes - let assume 100m are adults - how much do you see Dangote employing in his refinery and related industries in his country DangoteLand.
samorobo:


@ ist bolded it is $28bn actually.

@2nd bolded you are just being pessimistic and overly jealous as usual...2021 is not far..one could easily just say it is tomorrow...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 2:09pm On May 06, 2020
Austine1212:


Take nigeria few years back their currency devaluted from 160 to N300

Did they lose half their gdp?

360 actually.
..he is just being a Ravey looney

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by sherlock229(m): 2:09pm On May 06, 2020
Lagos marina ( this isn't even the most beautiful part ot lagos)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--BQUQ3qW60

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:11pm On May 06, 2020
rvp20182:
One word suffices here. DANGOTELAND. You've pinned your entire nation's future on one man, and his refinery grin. Nigeria a country of 200M - now depends on Dangote. What went wrong? As for Kenya - tea - name them - are just part of a well diversified economic engine - which ensure if one goes down - the others keep the economic engine running.


When the masses rise there is nothing to stop them..people are saying no to fossils an change is being felt world wide..i dont think oil price will go back to where it was before..I watched a documentary about china an EVs an was suprised..they are planning for electric future..look atAmerica, guys booking to buy Tesla even though deliver comes after years..i think the era of oil is coming to an end..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 2:12pm On May 06, 2020
rvp20182:
Of course - so much - they snatched the poverty capital title from India. A stable currency is key. Pray for rand.

And here he goes...dissing out advice and telling you what to do...lol SA can continue tolerating this shiit from you but deep down you know it to your soul that Kenya is one big magnified shiithole..no need to magnify Kenya's importance cos it is non existent..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 2:13pm On May 06, 2020
You think the videos are made for Nairaland smiley
samorobo:


There is nothing new...I have proven my claim...your unedited images is synonymous to what you get on YouTube..but the edited ones has features than never exist anywhere on earth...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:14pm On May 06, 2020
rvp20182:
Of the 200m Dangotes - let assume 100m are adults - how much do you see Dangote employing in his refinery and related industries in his country DangoteLand.
its like Trump trying to revive coal industry in states..it doesn't work...investing in refineries at ths age is absurd..or maybe the guy knows something we dont.. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 2:14pm On May 06, 2020
mtisTheQubit:


When the masses rise there is nothing to stop them..people are saying no to fossils an change is being felt world wide..i dont think oil price will go back to where it was before..I watched a documentary about china an EVs an was suprised..they are planning for electric future..look atAmerica, guys booking to buy Tesla even though deliver comes after years..i think the era of oil is coming to an end..

It is becos you are dumb..you do the need to think, it is basic logic....very low demand for oil cause by almost zero activities globally leads to fall in price as there is a glut in the market...As economies opens up further demand increases and price surges up...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:15pm On May 06, 2020
Shma:
come with a nice camera grin
I know the last time you were here, the likes of twin tower(CBK) 39,27fls, parliament tower 125m with underground tunnel, six great towers(30-45Fls ) and many many things were not there grin
This time round you will be shocked on what is going on in town grin

Im less impressed by cities these days, show me rural areas, villages, ghettos, bundus, etc if infrastructure is good there ill be impressed

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 2:16pm On May 06, 2020
Oil has no future. The world will change post covid-19. Many things people thought impossible - are now possible. Even cities that never knew pollution could end - have seen the light.
mtisTheQubit:


When the masses rise there is nothing to stop them..people are saying no to fossils an change is being felt world wide..i dont think oil price will go back to where it was before..I watched a documentary about china an EVs an was suprised..they are planning for electric future..look atAmerica, guys booking to buy Tesla even though deliver comes after years..i think the era of oil is coming to an end..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:18pm On May 06, 2020
samorobo:


And here he goes...dissing out advice and telling you what to do...lol SA can continue tolerating this shiit from you but deep down you know it to your soul that Kenya is one big magnified shiithole..no need to magnify Kenya's importance cos it is non existent..

We try too hard lol

We all know the truth after all right
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 2:18pm On May 06, 2020
rvp20182:
You think the videos are made for Nairaland smiley

No they are not..your photographers are just so duplicitous and wants to sell the theme *beautiful Kenya*, "magical Kenya" when infact it is very ugly..the go about editing this images or at best showing aerial views covered with rainforest to distract you from what is on ground whilst selling that theme...a simple driving video across Nairobi and you will receive the biggest shock of your life...I consider you guys a joke whenever you choose to fool yourselves..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 2:19pm On May 06, 2020
mtisTheQubit:

eish msee..i know ya Trump guy but yawa grin grin America is not the best..time changed..I prefer Scandinavian countries or canada over states cheesy

Those are socialist countries
No country has created wealth for its citizens than America it is the best way to go
Although America has made few mistakes its capitalist system is the best

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