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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:57am On May 10, 2020
mtisTheQubit00:

Yes they are... grin

weirdo grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by mtisTheQubit00: 10:57am On May 10, 2020
TayserMahri:


no need bro... grin
thread not like it used to be..its like a screaming match ..even the lassies left grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by mtisTheQubit00: 10:58am On May 10, 2020
TayserMahri:


she's single trust me grin grin
like you know her eeh... grin anza story bro
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by mtisTheQubit00: 11:01am On May 10, 2020
Just30:
We dont put trees over our power supply lines
It is dangerous to do so because we us live wire
i did not get that bro.. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:01am On May 10, 2020
jln115:

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/newly-industrialized-country.asp

Got no qualms with NIC designation...but as I said, my chart was based on different barometer/parameters??
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:03am On May 10, 2020
And even private multinationals are choosing Kenya - Nairobi - as their Africa operation- because it's connected to the world with fast broadband and airport connected to many destinations, you get grade A office spaces, you get good housing, great hospitals, schools, no forex controls, modern banking and you're few kilometers from safaris and the coast is not far.

The local competition is only Rwanda who dishes or doesn't require a work permit and have zero insecurity - but Kigali get's pretty booring very fast.

Joburg is the real competition in the long term - but run-away robberies and kwerekwere immigration mess - is not helping them.

If Nairobi can sort petty crime -serious crime is not an issue - and most importantly traffic mess - it will overtake Joburg in 10yrs.

To sort the traffic mess we need to invest in light rail or metro or even an underground one - completely destroy the joke that exists and build something like Joburg Gautrain. If Chinese can lend us 2B dollars - this can be done - and Nairobi would be untouchable in Sub-Sahara Africa.

TayserMahri:


NGO's make Kenya their HQ to serve the entire troubled region. All those NGOs in Somalia, Sudan, Congo work from Kenya. Because Kenya is their safe haven. This has made Kenya to have the highest per capita NGOs in Africa.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:07am On May 10, 2020
mtisTheQubit00:

thread not like it used to be..its like a screaming match ..even the lassies left grin

the thread has totally lost it. knew it would eventually go to the dogs but atleast we hammered sense into the uncivilised

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:09am On May 10, 2020
mtisTheQubit00:

like you know her eeh... grin anza story bro

ok bro,,,rule number one, all lassies are single grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:14am On May 10, 2020
rvp2018:
And even private multinationals are choosing Kenya - Nairobi - as their Africa operation- because it's connected to the world with fast broadband and airport connected to many destinations, you get grade A office spaces, you get good housing, great hospitals, schools, no forex controls, modern banking and you're few kilometers from safaris and the coast is not far.

The local competition is only Rwanda who dishes or doesn't require a work permit and have zero insecurity - but Kigali get's pretty booring very fast.

Joburg is the real competition in the long term - but run-away robberies and kwerekwere immigration mess - is not helping them.

If Nairobi can sort petty crime -serious crime is not an issue - and most importantly traffic mess - it will overtake Joburg in 10yrs.

To sort the traffic mess we need to invest in light rail or metro or even an underground one - completely destroy the joke that exists and build something like Joburg Gautrain. If Chinese can lend us 2B dollars - this can be done - and Nairobi would be untouchable in Sub-Sahara Africa.


Btw, even the Kenyan plane downed by the Ethio troops in Som was on a coronavirus relief humanitarian mission from Nairobi (an international NGO). Ofcourse neanderthals like kazi were celebrating thinking it was a Kenyan Gov plane.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:15am On May 10, 2020
The Kenyans are poor and loud mouth grin grin
darfay:



It's not fair how y'all East Africans bully Kenyans
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:16am On May 10, 2020
grin grin grin grin
darfay:



Pay no attention to that arm chair economist
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:22am On May 10, 2020
TayserMahri:


It of course all boils down to poor education, the famously warped social culture embedded in their DNA, and of course the very low IQ.
The west Africans can see far. They know what's in stock is dangerous and are trying to avoid it. Whereas the East Africans are too dumb to understand China's plan. It has to do with your laid back and lazy attitude.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:23am On May 10, 2020
Mid term budget statement are political comments in an attempt to undermine the achievements of previous governments.

In any given year from henceforth as a recommendation from the Technocrats
Ghana is expected to keep power generation surplus of 1500MW as reserve as Thermal plants makes up the majority of our generation unit.

Thermal plants require regular maintenance every 3 - 5 months, having those back ups makes us immune from any form of regular black outs like the ones that happen in Kenya.

Kenya power sector is peanut compare to Ghana grin grin grin grin
rvp2018:
What hobbit is this kind of logic? Do you just type?

And listen to you mister.

Ghana’s Finance Minister Ken Ofori-Atta set out the scale of the problem in his mid-year review budget on July 29. He said that the problem posed grave financial risks to Ghana’s economy. This is because the government is carrying legacy debt in the energy sector, which threatens to put a huge strain on its finances.
https://theconversation.com/lessons-to-be-learnt-from-ghanas-excess-electricity-shambles-121257

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by mtisTheQubit00: 11:26am On May 10, 2020
TayserMahri:


the thread has totally lost it. knew it would eventually go to the dogs but atleast we hammered sense into the uncivilised
yes..I got ths creepy Trump meme just for ths.. grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:26am On May 10, 2020
rvp2018:
UNICEF exist everywhere including https://www.unicef.org/ghana/

As for AID - your biggest highway is a donation from US gov - the GEORGE WALKER BUSH highway - you add to include all his 3 names.

You're normally under IMF benevolences.

Ghana is HIPC - poor country to be pitied and - has had 3.5B dollars of loan FORGIVEN. Nigeria has had 18B dollar forgiven.

except in Ghana, UNICEF is not a disaster relief Authority

when we have disasters, NADMO takes care of the victims.

Your country had small floods and it was busy running to UNICEF for aid grin grin grin

That is how useless your country is

Ghana's biggest highway is the Tema Motorway

MCA is not a donation
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by mtisTheQubit00: 11:28am On May 10, 2020
TayserMahri:


ok bro,,,rule number one, all lassies are single grin
Team mafisi school of thought i guess... grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:29am On May 10, 2020
Hobbit, these things are already worked out. I think recommended idle or excess capacity everywhere to deal with such issues is around 10% - and system losses maybe another 10% - Not 50%.

As for your politics - here is more politics.
With capacity that’s almost double the country’s peak demand needs, Ghana’s electricity utility has to pay independent producers about $450 million every year for energy that it doesn’t need or use. This adds to the sector’s liabilities, which are the biggest debt threat to a nation that seven months ago completed its 16th bailout program with the International Monetary Fund.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-11-08/how-having-too-much-energy-creates-a-debt-problem-for-ghana

Just30:
Mid term budget statement are political comments in an attempt to undermine the achievements of previous governments.

In any given year from henceforth as a recommendation from the Technocrats
Ghana is expected to keep power generation surplus of 1500MW as reserve as Thermal plants makes up the majority of our generation unit.

Thermal plants require regular maintenance every 3 - 5 months, having those back ups makes us immune from any form of regular black outs like the ones that happen in Kenya.

Kenya power sector is peanut compare to Ghana grin grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:29am On May 10, 2020
obaaderemi:
You started your day by throwing insults. grin Guess you are still hurting.
Anyway, your trade deficits are the reason why you are mostly jobless in Kenya. Any good student of economics should know that. And it's also why your debt is proportionally high!
even a class 2 kid knows the above

This is the very reason why USA is in bitter fight with China to bring production back home.

Trade deficit will continue to keep Kenyans poor, unemployed and useless grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:31am On May 10, 2020
rvp2018:
Obaboon, I think that has been your name for over a year. I don't normally get angry for that long. Anyway moving swiftly - Kenya trade deficit is now 10B dollars plus - and we are NOT complaining. The trade deficit is a problem only if you start having forex problems like Nigeria and Ghana (more like always). It has nothing to do with jobs. Kenya jobless has everything to do with it's third-world economy - just like all the rest of Sub-Sahara Africa. You can have positive trade surplus like Nigeria by merely exporting OIl - and that will mean nearly zero employment - except in few enclaves of port harcourt. or well you can get 1.5B dollars from tea by engaging 0.5M people. Have 1.5B from tourism by engaging 0.2M people.

Those are the things that employ people. You can have robust domestic marekt - like kenya formalizing retail and trade - that start generating very good jobs - in the entire value chain - and you haven't exported anything.

If you think name calling and childish insults will save you from me, think again. wink

Now, let me quickly teach you what you don't understand about your trade deficits.
Sane Kenyans are complaining about your ridiculous trade deficits but Obviously you are not one of those who are sane.
The trade deficits are the reason why you are mostly jobless in Kenya.
It reflects the fact that you import basic stuff you can make yourself. Your staples for example, maize and vegetable oil are imported. Your farmers are encouraged by IMF to plant tea and other cash crops while your people starve. What's wrong with growing food crops to feed your starving people? Look at what Nigeria did with rice and cassava.
Now your agriculture is suffering due to droughts and locusts. Even prices are falling for tea and demand is down.
Your tourism is suffering due to alshabab attacks. You now rely on remittances from Uganda and other countries as sources of forex and yet you claim not to have a forex problem. grin

I wonder how you are still surviving in Kenya. I guess the answer are the Chinese loans.
You claim to have a robust domestic market but retail and trade are struggling. Stores are closing furiously. Examples are nakumatt and uchumi. Your retail sector is worth anything from $15bn to $25bn. Even Ghana with 30m people does better.
Those deficits are the reason you are jobless. Winter is coming and you need to get your ass away from nairaland and make yourself useful. All hands in Kenya should be on deck now. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:31am On May 10, 2020
We have a better disaster preparedness and bodies...and we have a national welfare system. Unicef and UN agencies are doing there jobs globally.
Just30:
except in Ghana, UNICEF is not a disaster relief Authority

when we have disasters, NADMO takes care of the victims.

Your country had small floods and it was busy running to UNICEF for aid grin grin grin

That is how useless your country is

Ghana's biggest highway is the Tema Motorway

MCA is not a donation

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:34am On May 10, 2020
Shma:
[s]stupid Ghanaian, those skyscrapers over there are ugly but it's so unfortunate that Ghana can't afford money to put even a single of it.
And mind you boy that Nigeria will still roast you on Twitter. grin
I know only few Yoruba are at hand to support this bootlik*in isht of you guys, grin but guess what??
Kenyans are TOOOOoo strong for a Nigeria to hire noise makers from Ghana grin
We are destroying three at the same time. grin
Oooh, vax will never support the hypocrites anyway and he only support Ghana and Ghana alone. grin maybe by his intelligence, he knows table turns.

For your case, desperation has clouded your brain in a way that you want to support even south Africa over kenya grin.. You even supported Tz over kenya some days back forgetting all what they did to your country grin. Your case is just special grin your special case comes after suffering and smiling[/s] grin

You sound stupid always

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:35am On May 10, 2020
Shma:
your country is a Zoo but ahead of Ghana grin
What is Ghana then? grin I know Ghana is not a Zoo, grin is kinda cleaner than Nigeria with high HDI.
But what can we call it?? I think dwarf teensy-weeny can work grin

Shut up muou know nothing..just travel bushman

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:35am On May 10, 2020
Just30:
even a class 2 kid knows the above

This is the very reason why USA is in bitter fight with China to bring production back home.

Trade deficit will continue to keep Kenyans poor, unemployed and useless grin grin
grin
I think the Kenyans are just here to troll and it's ridiculous the kind of things they say here. The thread was fvcked from the beginning but it reached a new low with the kind of Kenyans we have here now.
How can an educated person say trade deficits don't matter. It's why the unemployment rate in Kenya is the worst in East Africa and their debts are rising with nothing to show for it.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:37am On May 10, 2020
Shma:
they were siding with nobody,
Ghanaian were here to attack Nigerians until tables turn when their ego raise to a point of compare themselves with Tanzania. As Kenyans we couldn't stand some lies and we ended up debunking their lies.
His desperation and hatred was created from that point and that made Nigerians happy(their one and only enemies have turned against each other)
Ghanaian realising the hit was too much for them, due to desperation and pain, they just ended up supporting Nigeria for no reason.
And that only happens in this forum the reason is because Ghana alone can't stand Ken-yagrin

When did join this thread that you are teaching us history
?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:38am On May 10, 2020
Obaboon,

You're talking trade deficit when you're re-exporting aeroplane parts to spain.

Anyway ignoring usual Nigeria data and talking about Kenya.

First Kenya economy is growing at 6% consistently and with currency stability - we are seeing less and less poverty, jobless.Maybe Trade Deficit is not aware of all this.

And 3rd what is Kenya importing.

1) Fuels - refined oil. We have no option.
2) Machinery and capital goods - these are machines from India and China.
3) Vehicles and related.

We are not importing food that much - we have very small deficit in a few groups. And that we fill locally.

We are the only country in Africa that is doing 50-50 trade with Africa. Most of African backwater like Nigeria are doing 95% trade outside Africa...you cannot even trade with Benin except for illegal rice.

So you see - we don't need to worry about dollars - when we are importing maize or cheap Tanzania maize. That is 50% of our trade. We do it with KSHS...which is like the gold standard for the region.

Now because we mostly importing capital goods - machinery and vehicles - and fuel - we are powering our economy,

Which obabaoon explain why KENYA IS DOING VERY well without any minerals or oil or gold or even RAIN.

obaaderemi:
If you think name calling and childish insults will save you from me, think again. wink

Now, let me quickly teach you what you don't understand about your trade deficits.
Sane Kenyans are complaining about your ridiculous trade deficits but Obviously you are not one of those who are sane.
The trade deficits are the reason why you are mostly jobless in Kenya.
It reflects the fact that you import basic stuff you can make yourself. Your staples for example, maize and vegetable oil are imported. Your farmers are encouraged by IMF to plant tea and other cash crops while your people starve. What's wrong with growing food crops to feed your starving people? Look at what Nigeria did with rice and cassava.
Now your agriculture is suffering due to droughts and locusts. Even prices are falling for tea and demand is down.
Your tourism is suffering due to alshabab attacks. You now rely on remittances from Uganda and other countries as sources of forex and yet you claim not to have a forex problem. grin

I wonder how you are still surviving in Kenya. I guess the answer are the Chinese loans.
You claim to have a robust domestic market but retail and trade are struggling. Stores are closing furiously. Examples are nakumatt and uchumi. Your retail sector is worth anything from $15bn to $25bn. Even Ghana with 30m people does better.
Those deficits are the reason you are jobless. Winter is coming and you need to get your ass away from nairaland and make yourself useful. All hands in Kenya should be on deck now. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:39am On May 10, 2020
grin grin 0.5m people being paid below living wages


that is terribly poor

Whiles you can help ingenious citizens set up local manufacturing capacity like it is done in Ghana, SA and Nigeria that reduces reliance on import
This creates a lot of quality jobs and a whole chain of economic subgroups that creates over 4 million jobs in the value chain for citizens.

Import reliance will make Kenyans poor forever
That is how Britain created your economy and it has remained so.
rvp2018:
Obaboon, I think that has been your name for over a year. I don't normally get angry for that long. Anyway moving swiftly - Kenya trade deficit is now 10B dollars plus - and we are NOT complaining. The trade deficit is a problem only if you start having forex problems like Nigeria and Ghana (more like always). It has nothing to do with jobs. Kenya jobless has everything to do with it's third-world economy - just like all the rest of Sub-Sahara Africa. You can have positive trade surplus like Nigeria by merely exporting OIl - and that will mean nearly zero employment - except in few enclaves of port harcourt. or well you can get 1.5B dollars from tea by engaging 0.5M people. Have 1.5B from tourism by engaging 0.2M people.

Those are the things that employ people. You can have robust domestic marekt - like kenya formalizing retail and trade - that start generating very good jobs - in the entire value chain - and you haven't exported anything.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:40am On May 10, 2020
obaaderemi:
The west Africans can see far. They know what's in stock is dangerous and are trying to avoid it. Whereas the East Africans are too dumb to understand China's plan. It has to do with your laid back and lazy attitude.

If you say so.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:41am On May 10, 2020
when it comes to exposing the STUPIDITY of Kenya that is making more kenyans poor such that they have to live in terrible slums

keeping my silence is cowardice

For humanitarian reasons, i will have to speak grin grin grin grin

the children of Kenya have suffered for long
kikuyu1:


Srsly, sometimes you should know when to stop talking.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:42am On May 10, 2020
Just30:
Mid term budget statement are political comments in an attempt to undermine the achievements of previous governments.

In any given year from henceforth as a recommendation from the Technocrats
Ghana is expected to keep power generation surplus of 1500MW as reserve as Thermal plants makes up the majority of our generation unit.

Thermal plants require regular maintenance every 3 - 5 months, having those back ups makes us immune from any form of regular black outs like the ones that happen in Kenya.

Kenya power sector is peanut compare to Ghana grin grin grin grin

FYI, the blackout was caused by floods not power shortage. Check image below.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:43am On May 10, 2020
Baliv254:

i thought you'd never ask grin grin

Some good news, We had a new birth of a Black Rhino calf in Nairobi National Park
i was wondering how long would it last in ng before you guys turned this into bushmeat , rhino soup anyone? grin grin

Keep wondering..that's why they say wonder shall never end grin it's fvcking endless grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:44am On May 10, 2020
Kazikazi:
The whole of Kenya is in total blackout. But you a kiberan, without shame you talk of HDI?!
Go produce electricity first before you start talking of HDI.

True...Kenya electricity distribution is a shame

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:44am On May 10, 2020
mtisTheQubit00:

yes..I got ths creepy Trump meme just for ths.. grin grin

Hell yeah! grin
Looks gangnam style,,,or crunk aint dead ish grin

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