Moneywomen17:
ode math teacher wey no get sense chai. So Africans don’t know the meaning of their words until it was written down by Europeans. Who told u etymology has to do with writing things down. Do u even know the meaning of etymology. Let me help u.

Ghostwon65:

Wow, I have never said that, don't put somebody else's words into my mouth.

When was the first year the word Oba was attached to a Yoruba chief.

Moneywomen17:
what does omo noba nedo means according to u then

Moneywomen17:
no chief use oba rather king. What does oba mean regarding to ur own chief. I hear he is the child that shines for edo.

Ghostwon65:

As I have already told you, Oba is short for Omo n'Oba n'Edo.

Ghostwon65:
What exactly does Benin have to do with this discussion ?
You Yoruba really like to mention Benin in every situation.

The emperor of Benin empire is titled:
OMO N'OBA N'EDO. Oba in short.

In the precolonial era, Yoruba chiefs didn't refer to themselves as "Oba". Rather they referred to themselves as ooni, alafin...
In the colonial era Yoruba chiefs started naming themselves in the following manner: "ooni of ife, sir adeyemi", "alafin of oyo, sir adetoye"...
Notice the introduction of two non Yoruba words: "of" and "sir".
The "sir" is a word from English nobility which the yorubas borrowed from the British in order to add some prestige to their titles.

However, later in the colonial era, the Yoruba dropped the word "sir" and replaced it with the word "Oba", yet an other non Yoruba word.

The word Oba belongs to Benin empire, it is how Benin empire calls it's emperor as witnessed by European visitors in the middle ages.

Basically, Yoruba copy other tribes a lot:
2) emir from Fulani
3) "sir" from the British
1) Oba from Benin

Even some Benin traditional swords were copied by the Yoruba.

You guys like to imitate other people's cultures, face this fact and live on.

Ghostwon65:

As I have told you 4 times already, it is the emperor of Benin empire.
You are very slow.
You could easily just reread the words, but, no I have to write them again and again...

Moneywomen17:
shut up fool. U think am dumb like u. What does omo noba nedo means cuz it doesn’t mean any emperor. Omo child n’oba shining edo village. How does that mean emperor. Ole liar. Is the Benin sense.

Ghostwon65:
What exactly does Benin have to do with this discussion ?
You Yoruba really like to mention Benin in every situation.

The emperor of Benin empire is titled:
OMO N'OBA N'EDO. Oba in short.

In the precolonial era, Yoruba chiefs didn't refer to themselves as "Oba". Rather they referred to themselves as ooni, alafin...
In the colonial era Yoruba chiefs started naming themselves in the following manner: "ooni of ife, sir adeyemi", "alafin of oyo, sir adetoye"...
Notice the introduction of two non Yoruba words: "of" and "sir".
The "sir" is a word from English nobility which the yorubas borrowed from the British in order to add some prestige to their titles.

However, later in the colonial era, the Yoruba dropped the word "sir" and replaced it with the word "Oba", yet an other non Yoruba word.

The word Oba belongs to Benin empire, it is how Benin empire calls it's emperor as witnessed by European visitors in the middle ages.

Basically, Yoruba copy other tribes a lot:
2) emir from Fulani
3) "sir" from the British
1) Oba from Benin

Even some Benin traditional swords were copied by the Yoruba.

You guys like to imitate other people's cultures, face this fact and live on.

Ghostwon65:

How do you get the origin of a word and the way it's meaning has changed throught time without it belonging to ancient books ?
Are you applying voodoo logics here ?

Moneywomen17:
ode just cuz a word is not written it means it doesn’t exist nor it doesn’t have meaning .

Ghostwon65:

As you may have noticed from the definition of etymology which you quoted, meaning of words change over time.
If those words were not written down in the "far past", it would be impossible to track down the evolution of their meanings.
This is not magics, it is logics.

Moneywomen17:
dumbass stop saying crap just cuz a word is not written down doesn’t mean it disappears dumbas. U claim etymology is about written words. Just cuz people didn’t write their name down in the past doesn’t mean they don’t know the meaning of their name. Get that into ur skull kindergarten math school teacher.

Ghostwon65:

As you may have noticed from the definition of etymology which you quoted: meaning of words change over time.

If those words were not written down in the "far past", it would be impossible to track down the evolution of their meanings.
This is not magics, it is logics.


A word from a foreign language could enter your language today. It could have entered it 100 years ago, 60 years ago...
Indeed, the words "friend" and "foe" were not part of English until the British borrowed them from the vikings.

Languages are not statical, they evolve over time.
And that evolution is what etymology studies according to the definition which you quoted.
You just couldn't understand what you were quoting.

Ghostwon65:

As you may have noticed from the definition of etymology which you quoted, meaning of words change over time.
If those words were not written down in the "far past", it would be impossible to track down the evolution of their meanings.
This is not magics, it is logics.
A word from a foreign language could enter your language today.
Indeed, the words "friend" and "foe" were not part of English until the British borrowed them from the vikings.
Languages are not statical, they éveil e over time.
And that evolution is what etymology studies according to the definition which you quoted.
You just couldn't understand what you were quoting.

Moneywomen17:
dumbass the British also borrowed word like touché from French

Moneywomen17:
dumbass the British also borrowed word like touché from French does that mean just cuz English borrowed it doesn’t have any etymology from the French they borrowed it from what a dumbass u are. Alubasa enter Yoruba language centuries ago from Hausa who got it from Arabic but we still knew it wasn’t ours and that’s without writing it down. It’s u who doesn’t understand how etymology works.

Ghostwon65:


Call your mother to come and change your diapers.

I repeat:

Moneywomen17:
ur brothers already accepted that oba means shining. And that omo n’oba nedo means child that shines for edo. Ur fake theory about emperor is dead on arrival. And I thought etymology doesn’t apply to Africans why is ur bro gregboy saying something about etymology below.

Ghostwon65:


Obviously you lack maturity.
You are not smart enough to understand the topic which you are discussing.

Let me make it short for you:

Without ancient written language, there is no such thing as etymology.

Ghostwon65:


Wow, your logics are really amazing. Someone else said something else, therefor what I am saying is "dead on arrival".
I didn't realize you were a toddler.
I don't teach toddlers.
You need a specialized teacher to educate you.
I have wasted enough time for today.

Ghostwon65:
Lessons for free to an uneducated youth naming his illiterate self "moneywomen".
Ironic name indeed.

I don't think you understand you are falling yourself a prostitute.

Ghostwon65:

Actually no such thing happened "touché" is still not an English word and was never borrowed by the English nor does it use English alphabet.

Moneywomen17:
first of all there is nothing called oba it’s n’oba which means shining. And true every word has their own etymology but ur word was omo n’oba n’edo not oba cuz the word oba literally has no meaning in ur language it’s a fact so that’s out. And stop lying ur king in the past are called ogiso sky king the itsekiri king are called ogiamen while uhrobo word for king is Ovie.. oba of Lagos is a king not duke. All oba from ologun kutere doesn’t trace their ancestors to Benin except maternally.

Amujale:


That isnt a claim, that is a matter of fact.

Definately.

Lets put this nonsense insult of yours to bed.

I dont want to hear you utter anything else about 'Oba' until you provide us with the etymology.

Provide us the etymology of the term 'Oba'.

Moneywomen17:
dumbass. U are the one that lacks sense. Humans have a functioning brain and they are not ostrich who put their head in the ground and assume no one is around. Just cuz something was not written down doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Esin a Yoruba word for horse without a written word it’s etymology was clear that it was not Yoruba but borrowed from Hausa who borrowed from Arabs. Once more here is the meaning of etymology. Get sense by force. Etymology has nothing to do with written words.

davidnazee:
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Amujale:
African history comprises of Agriculture,  Architecture, Arts, Astronomy, Astrology, Commerce, Engineering, Mathematics, Medical sciences, Philosophy, Physical sciences e.t.c

https://www.nairaland.com/5795996/african-origin-civilisation

gregyboy:



Same here for horse in benin


Esin is horse in benin probably you guys borrowed it from us two

gregyboy:


U guys adopted it fron benin



We have more than 30kings in Yoruba land who would have introduced the title to yorubas
Not some imaginary oromiyan who never visited benin but spent his life waring nupes

Moneywomen17:
name the 30 kings cuz I only know of one.

Moneywomen17:
name the 30 kings cuz I only know of one.

Moneywomen17:
dumb ass can u read at all. Didn’t u see where I stated in the comment that it was borrowed from the Hausa who borrowed it from Arabic. Everything is borrowed from Benin. What a dunce u are. Benin that doesn’t even have a horse culture.