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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 6:14pm On May 13, 2020 |
donjazet: What if he's a Muslim or Christian or Baba/Mama Alawo? Would he/she still be credible? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 6:15pm On May 13, 2020 |
donjazet: Lol.. ![]() ![]() Wake up bro. Even Bubu seemed like a credible candidate to many 5 years ago... |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 6:16pm On May 13, 2020 |
izzou: No!!! The person would've to be an atheist or a critical thinker like gensteejay to be considered credible ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 6:18pm On May 13, 2020 |
diggz: Stop naa ![]() He will throw more light on that. Let's be patient ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 6:18pm On May 13, 2020 |
izzou: Definitely not. For one to be a credible candidate he has to first free himself from the shakles of religion so he can start thinking critically |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 6:22pm On May 13, 2020 |
madrid5:And children born into atheist family? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 6:22pm On May 13, 2020 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 6:24pm On May 13, 2020 |
nihilistjnr:Credibility simply means being trusted and believed in. I have said someone like Sowore. I used to believe he was unbiased but recent discoveries indicate he was self absorbed. We have to look out for an individual who is a detribalized self made entrepreneur, who isn't corrupted or affiliated with corrupt individuals. Someone who is genuinely patriotic. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 6:25pm On May 13, 2020 |
donjazet: Hehehehe..... ![]() ![]() Over 70% of Nigerian youths don't belong to any party. But you want to have a credible candidate to stand behind....una never start ![]() ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 6:29pm On May 13, 2020 |
![]() ![]() ![]() See as everybody dey bin Kaka upandan. At his prime, this guy was unplayable.... |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 6:29pm On May 13, 2020 |
donjazet:You are blaming religion on issues that are actually caused by human nature, which affects how people think. For one humans still like to identify with groups similar to them. We also hold opinions to such a high degree that we often choose to ignore facts that contradict our values and only cling to our values more. This is true whether the values in question derive from the religious group you identify with or political party or any other groups one might identify themselves in including atheists. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 6:31pm On May 13, 2020 |
timbros:Kaka is not different from Ronaldinho. Nostalgic has made Ronaldinho better than he actually was. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by biomustry: 6:32pm On May 13, 2020 |
Religion is never the problem, there are developed religious countries, even America that u look up to was developed by its religious leaders..The average Nigerian is a bigot and wicked somebody. Atheism won't change that in naija 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 6:32pm On May 13, 2020 |
Melvyn11: Maybe you believe in God, maybe you don't. But I actually said a short prayer that he should bless you for the bolded. God bless you sir |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:37pm On May 13, 2020 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 6:38pm On May 13, 2020 |
madrid5:Saudi Arabia/ UAE is predominantly a Muslim state and they are prospering. When you compare groups of people throughout history, the groups that practice a religion are more likely to survive and prosper than those groups that don’t practice a religion. I can’t remember the exact study, but it was cited in Jonathan Haidt’s The Righteous Mind. Religion may have its faults but it unites people and helps them grow. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 6:38pm On May 13, 2020 |
diggz: The fact that many Nigerians are apolitical or have an apathy towards voting is no hidden knowledge. We have a situation whereby just 20 million out of 200 million people voted. The reasons for this are not farfetched either, one, we still have a very young democracy, a large number of the entire population from 30 years and above were used to military dictatorial regimes or faked democratic regimes. 2.very High illiteracy and poverty run rampant all across the country, very few of the larger populace have access to correct information hence many fall away to propaganda from the elite and ruling class. However that can change as more people become better informed with the continuous technological developments. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 6:39pm On May 13, 2020 |
biomustry: Even the so-called Nigerian atheist and critical thinkers I've come across on NL are as bad as or worse than the religious people they so much despise. 10 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:41pm On May 13, 2020 |
Melvyn11: Saudi prosperity is just due to the fortune of sitting on oil reserves, not due to anything else. Infact their leaders are very wicked, wasteful and inhumane. UAE leaders are similarly wicked although they applied some brain to what to do with their oil wealth to attract investment. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 6:54pm On May 13, 2020 |
Melvyn11: Coming from a Madrid fan, I'm not surprised 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 6:55pm On May 13, 2020 |
Ibime: I was about typing exactly same until I saw yours. Saudi Arabia and the UAE success are as a result of factors that are unique to them and very lucky for them. Their main sources of wealth are oil and tourism. This very SMALL population have the world's largest reserves of crude oil in the world. Also the county is placed in such an advantegous position on the globe such that all flights going to Asia from Europe and America stopped in their airports to refuel hence growing their tourism. They built one of the largest airports in the world and they were having millions of tourists coming to their countries. Thirdly, they are the headquarters of the largest religion on earth. Every muslim around the globe hopes to go there every year. Imagine any small country having all these advantages and tell me they won't prosper. They have excess wealth for a relatively small population. Why do you think biafran agitators look towards them? Because of the belief(arguably misguided) that a smaller population having large resources Is a recipe for wealth and success. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Swissh: 6:59pm On May 13, 2020 |
First of all you said religion is a problem. They showed you a religious country thriving very well and you turned to writing Shalayes and saying it's luck. My friend sit down inside gutter. Religion or no religion does not stop a country from progressing. Blame your corrupt leaders and not Religion. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 7:03pm On May 13, 2020 |
Melvyn11: I have already stated the factors behind the success of Saudi Arabia and the UAE. As for the American success, it helps to have one major religion. But apart from that, America was formed because they had a common enemy (British Empire) and moreso they recognized the danger of religion in leadership and insisted on a total separation of the church and state. Hence no religious zealot would be elected, this was why there was no catholic who became a president for up to 200 years. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 7:05pm On May 13, 2020 |
donjazet: Basically you want to look for a unicorn. It's impossible to be detribalised..That phrase makes no sense. The average Nigerian rarely relocates from the area they were born in except to move to maybe Lagos, Abuja or PH. Our identities are strongly tied to where we were raised. Even if you were able to find this so called 'detribalised' don, who truly considers everybody his brother, why would electorate outside his home zone vote for him instead of someone from their village, or someone their kinsman has endorsed? And even if thr impossible happened, how do you guarantee that another detribalised nigga will be ready to take over in 4 or 8 years time? Another thing is, how do you guarantee that a credible candidate remains a credible leader during his tenure? It makes no sense. You can't possibly hope to effect change by banking on the moral and personal characteristics of a 'credible candidate' Countries that are better managed than us, aren't that way because their leaders are saints. Donald Trump and Boris Johnson in particular would be very much at home in the Nigerian political landscape. The difference between those countries and us is institutions, not individuals. You don't get Naija style theft in Yankee politics because the system won't let you...not because Obama was the son of God. 9 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 7:08pm On May 13, 2020 |
Swissh: Your idiocy and craziness on this forum is well documented. It's a very common knowledge here that you lack adequate comprehension skills. Think well before entering a discourse, give your slow brain time to process information before exposing your foolishness publicly. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:11pm On May 13, 2020 |
Melvyn11:Apart form petrodollar, hope you know that Saudi realizes billions of dollars every year through mumus that keep visiting the country for religious tourism. If many of our ancestors in this part of the world were clever, cunning, and pugnacious like the warmongers and expansionists that designed Islam, they would have also imported Olohun to the nooks and crannies of the world as the Supreme God. And revenues from mumus that do pilgrimage every year to Nigeria to worship our local deities like Osun, Yemoja, Olohun, Chineke as God will be humongous and help spur the country to development. But African traditional worshippers don't realize that no religion can grow without things like violence (blood shed) and distortion of historical facts, vices their counterparts in Christianity and Islam had long mastered. Generally, many religious people can't see the danger of wallowing in worshipping the gods/goddesses. Religion unites people? When a father can even kill or starve his own child for having the guts to challenge religious beliefs or think independently. Well, this sort of discussion isn't even worth having anyways when most don't even realize that they're slaves and that they've been scammed, indoctrinated from childhood to believe lies. Smart people, on reaching adulthood, would critique all those dubious religious beliefs they've been fed with from childhood and subject them to scrutiny and test of logic. Religion (mental slavery) will always limit a person's brain development and will always limit a nation's progress. In 2023 general elections, religion will yet again be one of the key factors that will determine the people that will be chosen to lead the country in various capacities. So, those that can see and think deeply know the Nigerian situation is really a hopeless one. The rot is too deep. That's why those that are financially capable are doing everything possible to leave the sinking ship or keeping one foot here and the other in a developed country. By 2023, a number of regulars here will have left the country, and the brain drain will keep on taking place. But most religious people believe praying for a better Nigeria is the way forward. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Victornezzar: 7:12pm On May 13, 2020 |
donjazet:You start losing an argument when you bring in insults ![]() ![]() Dude calm down 8 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 7:13pm On May 13, 2020 |
donjazet: How did religion contribute to your first paragraph? How is religion responsible for illiteracy, poverty across the country and lack of access to correct information? P:S - Those illiterates and the elderly are the people actively participating in politics while youths like yourself blame religion without doing anything. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 7:15pm On May 13, 2020 |
gensteejay:You don't have respect for other people's beliefs Please don't quote me. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:17pm On May 13, 2020 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 7:19pm On May 13, 2020 |
Swissh:The bold says it all. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 7:20pm On May 13, 2020 |
thorrvik55:Am I wrong? |
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