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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 8:16pm On May 11, 2020
Rorschach1:

How that one take affect the quality of the film abeg? The film was a masterpiece. Easily the best in the series. Period.
all marvel movies are masterpiece. But R rated ones are low on the masterpiece list angry
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Rorschach1(m): 8:17pm On May 11, 2020
hulk616:
all marvel movies are masterpiece. But R rated ones are low on the masterpiece list angry
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by HbJ2(m): 8:23pm On May 11, 2020
Cottonmouth:

Not a total reboot with another actors playing the same Captain america, Iron man and Thor playing out the same storylines again.

But I could imagine a different MCU happening. Something that could continue the storylines from:
A) Ang Lee's hulk
and
B) non-MCU Spiderman, either Maguire or Garfield (pick only one).
and
C) Fox Xmen universe, original trilogy or First Class films (pick only one)

Build a new shared MCU out of those.
Not saying the same actors, directors or writing teams should return. Just that the story continues where the films ended, and that all those events actually happened in the same world.

Exactly were we left off, meaning no time has passed.

First "solo films" that explain this being the same world. Then we would get a superhero team-up adventure, before going into Phase 2.
A) I wouldn't be interested in that, Making his dad the absorbing man was dumb.

B) In the world of the three Raimi films i would include Ghost Rider because it was originally intended to be, Ghost Rider 2 because though it WASN'T intended to be it's still a sequel to the first one, and Punisher: War Zone because, like GR2, it was released under the "Marvel Knights" Banner, i see all those 6 films as one world.

c) Likewise with the X-men films and fox's other properties ...... Daredevil, Elektra and the first two FF films are in the world of the original trilogy, and Trank's FF reboot is some bizarre alternate timeline created by Deadpool hopping around wink
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Vic2Ree(m): 8:33pm On May 11, 2020
nyarlathotep:

Exactly. Why would the MCU ever need to reboot? They'd just continue to tell new stories with new characters within the pre-established continuity. That's like rebooting Star Wars.
I agree with this. Marvel's hero roster is vast enough. I doubt we've even explored up to 50% of the Marvel Universe
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by MJBOLT: 8:34pm On May 11, 2020
i will pick Days of Future Past over Logan

Illusioneffect:
Still, the best XMen film till date is Logan

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Cottonmouth: 9:12pm On May 11, 2020
HbJ2:

A) I wouldn't be interested in that, Making his dad the absorbing man was dumb.

B) In the world of the three Raimi films i would include Ghost Rider because it was originally intended to be, Ghost Rider 2 because though it WASN'T intended to be it's still a sequel to the first one, and Punisher: War Zone because, like GR2, it was released under the "Marvel Knights" Banner, i see all those 6 films as one world.

c) Likewise with the X-men films and fox's other properties ...... Daredevil, Elektra and the first two FF films are in the world of the original trilogy, and Trank's FF reboot is some bizarre alternate timeline created by Deadpool hopping around wink
I didn't mean that the rebooted MCU should only continue from A, or from B, or from C.

But all of them = A+B+C
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by HbJ2(m): 10:43pm On May 11, 2020
Cottonmouth:

I didn't mean that the rebooted MCU should only continue from A, or from B, or from C.

But all of them = A+B+C
I know, but i would never consider them all part of a single universe.
Three different universes within the same multiverse is the best i would credit those franchises with, and even then, i consider the x-men franchise irreparably tainted by poor character continuity and a timeline in which characters barely age for 30 years from the early 60s to the early 90s then age 30 years in a decade between then and the early 2000s.
Even with the odd continuity error here and there, the MCU is too tight to entertain association with that mess.
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nickshrapnel: 10:45pm On May 11, 2020
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Cottonmouth: 8:40am On May 12, 2020
HbJ2:

I know, but i would never consider them all part of a single universe.
Three different universes within the same multiverse is the best i would credit those franchises with, and even then, i consider the x-men franchise irreparably tainted by poor character continuity and a timeline in which characters barely age for 30 years from the early 60s to the early 90s then age 30 years in a decade between then and the early 2000s.
Even with the odd continuity error here and there, the MCU is too tight to entertain association with that mess.
That's the First Class route. I say one could pick either that or the original trilogy. That one ended in 2006.
Hulk took place in 2003.
Tobey Maguire Spiderman ended in 2007.
It's possible to continue from where we left off.

It's even possible to have Garfield instead of Maguire. It ended in 2014.

Hire better writers to explore these storylines further. Replace the directors and cast.
Explain how Spidey, Hulk and X-Men exist in the same world with some solo films. Then have them team up.
It's also possible to have Daredevil, Blade, Punisher and Ghost Rider appear. But as new characters who have nothing to do with their own films, no storylines to continue from those.
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by MJBOLT: 9:10am On May 12, 2020
disney wont near anything outside of the MCU except maybe Venom and that's because sony still own Spider man film rights.

Cottonmouth:

That's the First Class route. I say one could pick either that or the original trilogy. That one ended in 2006.
Hulk took place in 2003.
Tobey Maguire Spiderman ended in 2007.
It's possible to continue from where we left off.

It's even possible to have Garfield instead of Maguire. It ended in 2014.

Hire better writers to explore these storylines further. Replace the directors and cast.
Explain how Spidey, Hulk and X-Men exist in the same world with some solo films. Then have them team up.
It's also possible to have Daredevil, Blade, Punisher and Ghost Rider appear. But as new characters who have nothing to do with their own films, no storylines to continue from those.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by HbJ2(m): 9:11am On May 12, 2020
Cottonmouth:

That's the First Class route. I say one could pick either that or the original trilogy. That one ended in 2006.
Hulk took place in 2003.
Tobey Maguire Spiderman ended in 2007.
It's possible to continue from where we left off.

It's even possible to have Garfield instead of Maguire. It ended in 2014.

Hire better writers to explore these storylines further. Replace the directors and cast.
Explain how Spidey, Hulk and X-Men exist in the same world with some solo films. Then have them team up.
It's also possible to have Daredevil, Blade, Punisher and Ghost Rider appear. But as new characters who have nothing to do with their own films, no storylines to continue from those.
Guy it's never happening undecided
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Vic2Ree(m): 9:22am On May 12, 2020
To be honest, I see no sense in trying to continue the Marc Webb Spidey movies or the Fox X-Men movies.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Illusioneffect(m): 9:46am On May 12, 2020
MJBOLT:
i will pick Days of Future Past over Logan

Why's that?
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Cottonmouth: 9:58am On May 12, 2020
MJBOLT:
disney wont near anything outside of the MCU except maybe Venom and that's because sony still own Spider man film rights.

Doesn't matter. I describe how I see a possible MCU reboot, not what kind if reboot that IS GOING to happen.

With that said, I came up with the idea how to used to FC mutants instead of the original cast.
After the event of Dark Phoenix during the 90s, the mutants went into hiding. It was for the best because they got too much bad attention after one of the good guys turned bad. That's one of the explanations they aren't mentioned in neither Raimi's Spider-Man or Hulk, because they haven't been seen for several years. And could also explain partly why the military was so eager to capture/control Hulk. They know how much devastation superpowered beings can make.
And that's why Spider-Man is viewed as a possible threat at first, in both incarnations of the character (more so in ASM, but more about that later).

First Hulk happened and it didn't went unnoticed. Then Doc Ock wrecked havoc in New York.
So after the major event with Sandman, Venom and Goblin (2007) - Spidey was almost killed in a brutal manner - the mutants decided to finally come back into the world after being gone for about a little more a decade. They understand that people need protection from all these weirdly powered criminals. Like Peter said "were do all these guys come from?"
It could sort of make sense that they could have been hiding and then come back.
But not only because of past supervillains, but a new even more dangerous threat is on the rise. Xavier have noticed something with his mind-reading and/or tech

I think Raimi's Spider-Man would be best to go further with. It's close enough in time for Hulk and for both incarnations of X-men. He could actually meet the original X-Men, it's not impossible to blend the tones of the two frachises. Although Spidey being lighter at times, the fights could be violent.
After the loss of Harry, Peter might consider leaving Spider-Man behind him.
But something happens and he must again save the city. Does it have something to do with mutants? Or his Hulk back in town? Both original X-Men and FC can suit this idea.

I also see it possible for original X-Men also hiding for some years after the devastating events in Last Stand. They caused too much trouble fighting among themselves, and there were this massacre at Alcatraz, killing many humans in the process.
They then come back, and meet ASM version of Spidey in 2014 (who's torn and in grief after the death of Gwen). X-Men and ASM can work good together because they both present somewhat darker worlds. Maybe Peter has already teamed up with Daredevil by then?
What's the cause of the mutants' return? Has Ghost Rider arrvied and looks to be an evil demon? Or is it about Blade and the hidden world of vampires?
But in this scenario, we must perhaps leave out Ang Lee's Hulk since too much time has passed (11 years).

Now have have presented different suggestions here in a couple of posts.
Unfortunately none will take place at the same year of release, but years ago. That's the biggest obstacle when returning to older storylines for a MCU reboot.
All of them could even be soft reboots, meaning we could take the good parts and leave out the bad stuff. And have hints that the characters are the same from those storylines.
A different set of actors will even make it seem like it's something new, even it's not completely new.

Raimi's Spider-Man/Hulk/original X-Men (will be set in 2007-08)
Raimi's Spider-Man/Hulk/FC X-Men (-II-)
Amazing Spider-Man/original X-Men (2014).

You guys can dislike it if you want to. But there's atleast stories to continue from in all three options.
No need to rebuild an MCU reboot from scratch.
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Darkprime(m): 12:52pm On May 12, 2020
Cottonmouth:

Doesn't matter. I describe how I see a possible MCU reboot, not what kind if reboot that IS GOING to happen.

With that said, I came up with the idea how to used to FC mutants instead of the original cast.
After the event of Dark Phoenix during the 90s, the mutants went into hiding. It was for the best because they got too much bad attention after one of the good guys turned bad. That's one of the explanations they aren't mentioned in neither Raimi's Spider-Man or Hulk, because they haven't been seen for several years. And could also explain partly why the military was so eager to capture/control Hulk. They know how much devastation superpowered beings can make.
And that's why Spider-Man is viewed as a possible threat at first, in both incarnations of the character (more so in ASM, but more about that later).

First Hulk happened and it didn't went unnoticed. Then Doc Ock wrecked havoc in New York.
So after the major event with Sandman, Venom and Goblin (2007) - Spidey was almost killed in a brutal manner - the mutants decided to finally come back into the world after being gone for about a little more a decade. They understand that people need protection from all these weirdly powered criminals. Like Peter said "were do all these guys come from?"
It could sort of make sense that they could have been hiding and then come back.
But not only because of past supervillains, but a new even more dangerous threat is on the rise. Xavier have noticed something with his mind-reading and/or tech

I think Raimi's Spider-Man would be best to go further with. It's close enough in time for Hulk and for both incarnations of X-men. He could actually meet the original X-Men, it's not impossible to blend the tones of the two frachises. Although Spidey being lighter at times, the fights could be violent.
After the loss of Harry, Peter might consider leaving Spider-Man behind him.
But something happens and he must again save the city. Does it have something to do with mutants? Or his Hulk back in town? Both original X-Men and FC can suit this idea.

I also see it possible for original X-Men also hiding for some years after the devastating events in Last Stand. They caused too much trouble fighting among themselves, and there were this massacre at Alcatraz, killing many humans in the process.
They then come back, and meet ASM version of Spidey in 2014 (who's torn and in grief after the death of Gwen). X-Men and ASM can work good together because they both present somewhat darker worlds. Maybe Peter has already teamed up with Daredevil by then?
What's the cause of the mutants' return? Has Ghost Rider arrvied and looks to be an evil demon? Or is it about Blade and the hidden world of vampires?
But in this scenario, we must perhaps leave out Ang Lee's Hulk since too much time has passed (11 years).

Now have have presented different suggestions here in a couple of posts.
Unfortunately none will take place at the same year of release, but years ago. That's the biggest obstacle when returning to older storylines for a MCU reboot.
All of them could even be soft reboots, meaning we could take the good parts and leave out the bad stuff. And have hints that the characters are the same from those storylines.
A different set of actors will even make it seem like it's something new, even it's not completely new.

Raimi's Spider-Man/Hulk/original X-Men (will be set in 2007-08)
Raimi's Spider-Man/Hulk/FC X-Men (-II-)
Amazing Spider-Man/original X-Men (2014).

You guys can dislike it if you want to. But there's atleast stories to continue from in all three options.
No need to rebuild an MCU reboot from scratch.
Sorry but much of the substance of that comes over not as discussion of whether people would be open to a reboot of the MCU but as hijacking the fact there's an audience for that question to deliver fan-fiction ideas.

In particular I find using "will" when describing how your suggestions "would" play out difficult to handle, as it blurs the line between fact and your own imagination.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by MJBOLT: 2:24pm On May 12, 2020
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nickshrapnel: 2:34pm On May 12, 2020
MJBOLT:
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Never thought about this
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by BankyGee(m): 1:00pm On May 13, 2020
MJBOLT:
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Wow... Didn't notice
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by AfricaGalactic(m): 2:53pm On May 13, 2020
nyarlathotep:

Exactly. Why would the MCU ever need to reboot? They'd just continue to tell new stories with new characters within the pre-established continuity. That's like rebooting Star Wars.
By re-writing the extended universe they DID reboot Star Wars in the eyes of many fans and look how that went down.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 7:28pm On May 13, 2020
nyarlathotep:

Exactly. Why would the MCU ever need to reboot? They'd just continue to tell new stories with new characters within the pre-established continuity. That's like rebooting Star Wars.
Eventually they will run out of worthwhile characters. Heck, even with Star Wars we saw Rian Johnson moving beyond Luke Skywalker and a large portion of the audience vehemently rejected it and the box office for the franchise has suffered. Marvel has enough well-developed characters they can continue for awhile, but eventually there will be a point where they will run out and there will be a demand to see the big names again. Come 2040 and Disney executives are trying to choose between an Iron Man reboot and a Maggot movie, what do you think they are going to choose?

There is another problem as well: continuity lockout. So far Marvel has been able to largely avoid it over several films, but we are still talking a universe that has only been around for a little over ten years. Eventually there will be a point where there are too many films and the series has been going on for too long that audiences and especially the younger audiences who weren't even born yet when this thing started are going to be left behind.

These films aren't art. They are about making money. And as soon as studio executives see more potential earnings in a reboot versus continuing, it will be rebooted. Feige's not going to be around forever.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by losprince(m): 7:53pm On May 13, 2020
IAmSabrina:

Eventually, they will run out of worthwhile characters. Heck, even with Star Wars we saw Rian Johnson moving beyond Luke Skywalker and a large portion of the audience vehemently rejected it and the box office for the franchise has suffered. Marvel has enough well-developed characters they can continue for a while, but eventually, there will be a point where they will run out and there will be a demand to see the big names again. Come 2040 and Disney executives are trying to choose between an Iron Man reboot and a Maggot movie, what do you think they are going to choose?

There is another problem as well: continuity lockout. So far Marvel has been able to largely avoid it over several films, but we are still talking a universe that has only been around for a little over ten years. Eventually, there will be a point where there are too many films and the series has been going on for too long that audiences and especially the younger audiences who weren't even born yet when this thing started are going to be left behind.

These films aren't art. They are about making money. And as soon as studio executives see more potential earnings in a reboot versus continuing, it will be rebooted. Feige's not going to be around forever.

Good points and eventually they would lose steam and the movies will become repetitive and outlandish.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Cottonmouth: 10:55pm On May 13, 2020
Imagine Charlie Cox from Daredevil playing Superman in an original trilogy grin
https://geekvibesnation.com/matthew-vaughn-had-wanted-charlie-cox-to-play-superman-in-potential-trilogy/
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by HbJ2(m): 9:02am On May 14, 2020
Lol... i can’t picture Matt Murdock as superman. I just don’t see it.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Vic2Ree(m): 10:41am On May 14, 2020
IAmSabrina:

Eventually they will run out of worthwhile characters. Heck, even with Star Wars we saw Rian Johnson moving beyond Luke Skywalker and a large portion of the audience vehemently rejected it and the box office for the franchise has suffered. Marvel has enough well-developed characters they can continue for awhile, but eventually there will be a point where they will run out and there will be a demand to see the big names again. Come 2040 and Disney executives are trying to choose between an Iron Man reboot and a Maggot movie, what do you think they are going to choose?

There is another problem as well: continuity lockout. So far Marvel has been able to largely avoid it over several films, but we are still talking a universe that has only been around for a little over ten years. Eventually there will be a point where there are too many films and the series has been going on for too long that audiences and especially the younger audiences who weren't even born yet when this thing started are going to be left behind.

These films aren't art. They are about making money. And as soon as studio executives see more potential earnings in a reboot versus continuing, it will be rebooted. Feige's not going to be around forever.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 10:49am On May 14, 2020
Vic2Ree:

How far babe? I thought you completely bailed on Nairaland grin
grin Reddit is my new home. But I still peek in here once in a while. grin

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Vic2Ree(m): 10:56am On May 14, 2020
IAmSabrina:

grin Reddit is my new home. But I still peek in here once in a while. grin
LoL. Hope say u don retire from ur badmouth cool
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 11:04am On May 14, 2020
Vic2Ree:

LoL. Hope say u don retire from ur badmouth cool
Me? I don't do that please! grin
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Vic2Ree(m): 11:09am On May 14, 2020
IAmSabrina:

Me? I don't do that please! grin
I hear you

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by dragonflyy(m): 12:43pm On May 14, 2020
HbJ2:
Lol... i can’t picture Matt Murdock as superman. I just don’t see it.
charlie cox is is a much better actor than cavill , but I'm happy he ended up being the perfect matt murdock instead.

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