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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 9:32pm On May 13, 2020 |
madrid5: I used to think you were a Muslim, there's this Madrid fan always on Islamic thread defending them. I thought it was you. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 9:34pm On May 13, 2020 |
Swissh:It's really baffling. I need somebody to explain how normal human tendencies to always want more and live a comfortable life which leads to greed and corruption has anything to do with religion. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 9:39pm On May 13, 2020 |
gensteejay: Yes u are right that Nigerians may likely not support anybody that contests outside Apc or PDP. This has nothing to do with religion. Politics is a game of numbers. Nobody wants to support a candidate is almost certain he's going to lose. So why waste the vote? Do u know the reason why people like Sowore, Moghalu and the likes that want to form third force will continue to lose? It is because they do not understand Nigeria's politics is best played at the grassroot. You don't win elections via online poll or social media posts. Since may 2019 when Buhari has been sworn in, what majority of those guys have been doing is criticizing, calling for a never-happening revolution and some just staying quiet for reasons best known to them. They have 4 good years ahead of them to prepare for an election and what Sowore has done is to get arrested, released, rearrested and released for the past one year. For a serious third force their focus would've been to at least make sure they have presence in all the 774 local governments in Nigeria, hold ward meetings weekly, encourage their members to invite their friends and colleagues to join them as time goes on. That is how a party following is built at the grassroots. How do you think Apc keeps winning Lagos? I do see them in my area, the elderly ones and the younger generations holding ward meetings weekly. Do u know those Apc members have membership cards? When people see them go to these ward meetings for complete 3 years, it builds a kind of image in the mind of the people that this is a serious party that means business. Not some young former SUG president chasing clout. This instills a certain confidence in the voting public and they will do away with the fear that their votes will be lost. Honestly I like Sowore, dem Moghalu because on the surface they look like they mean well for the populace, but they still need to understand that the electioneering process doesn't start a year to general election. That is why PDP keeps losing in Lagos ; the people are yearning for a change of power, but PDP's presence in the localities is almost non existent prior to an election year 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 9:41pm On May 13, 2020 |
Leyqute: Most of these nations have the Majority of their populace pulling in the same direction because of it's religious/ethnic make up unlike Nigeria that is hugely divided amongst Religious and Tribal lines. I agree with though, Religion on it's own is not Nigeria's problem. It's a combination of Religion and other Factors like High levels of Illiteracy that is it's problem. It's a Nation full of Bigots. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 9:46pm On May 13, 2020 |
BlueRayDick: You are right. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kakakii: 9:49pm On May 13, 2020 |
My own opinion. 1. I don't think religion is only the problem in this country, it's just among the major problem we face as a country. In the east, it's pretty common to see a Yoruba christian marrying an igbo christian especially people attending the Pentecostal church. You will however almost never see a Yoruba Muslim marrying an igbo christian one must convert for others for peace to reign. I personal believe religion is part of the problem in this country. 2. You can't put all the blame on the religion for being in existence, if we have a good leader and working economy people will have few reason to go to church or mosque , that's why any good thing you benefit as a citizen is considered a miracle. Recently the Catholics asked the FG to use some of their churches as isolation centre. Had it been we have enough isolation centre would the government be at the mercy of the Catholics . I'm sure they will gain more followers for this deed OYEDEPO has done few roads by himself, something that should be the government responsibility. Religion thrive where there is bad leadership. As long as we have bad leadership religion will continue to thrive .. People needs hope and religion is giving it to them 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kakakii: 9:53pm On May 13, 2020 |
I also want to point out the fact that you don't believe in any religion doesn't make you an atheist.. Some people actually belief in God .. I have met some guys who actually believe that the foreign religion is not for us in Nigeria ( both Muslim and Christian ) It's also good to make an healthy argument without insulting one another personally. The purpose of argument sometimes is not to convince both parties ( it's actually impossible ), but to give onlookers the chance to weight the points raised by two parties and maybe decided. 7 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 9:55pm On May 13, 2020 |
kakakii:Religion itself has no hands in any problem in Nigeria. Use me and my religion Christianity as an example. I believe in God and my beliefs are set on not stealing, lying, commiting adultery, killing, bearing false witness and loving my neighbors as I love my self. If I obey those basic principles how is my faith a problem to Nigeria? 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 9:57pm On May 13, 2020 |
donjazet: I never said religious bigotry is not a problem, what I'm saying is Tribalism has always been the bigger problem going down memory lane to post independence era. Parties were formed across religious lines. AG was seen as a western party, NCNC was seen as being eastern Igbo-controlled etc. That is what translated till date to Apc being seen as Hausa-Yorùbá marriage kinda Party. Some eaterners would rather not vote than vote Apc. At least Buhari has had pastors as his vice thrice and nobody really cared vote for him. Now see how Àtiku got Eastern votes because he chose a son of the soil. That has little or nothing to do with religion, it is tribal bigotry which we are all guilty of. It is what we were born into 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Singapore1(m): 10:03pm On May 13, 2020 |
Godx: you can't use yourself, that's not being objective.. we have a lot of extremist in the country |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Swissh: 10:03pm On May 13, 2020 |
Godx:Most of them don't even understand the concept of religion so they can't answer. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 10:04pm On May 13, 2020 |
Critical thinker: Religion is the problem Diggz: Proffer a solution Critical Thinker: Let's start a revolution or migrate to a developed country Me: Gifted Intellectual Fraud. Politics and politicking is the major factor hampering our growth and development not religion as proclaimed by some. Religion doesn't stop one from building public infrastructure, paying workers their due, catering for the needs of the elderly and seek, having a strong security to ensure the safety of lives and property, dispensing justice without fear and favour, granting appointment to those who are duly qualified. As for the one who said Saudi Arabia are rich because of pilgrims, how were they faring before the discovery of crude oil in huge quantity despite millions still observing pilgrimage? Government spending is almost equivalent or more than what they received from pilgrims, during pilgrimage pilgrims are giving gift items from food, books, and the electricity supply in the 2holy mosques alone is 18000megawatts, ambulances and helicopters are used to ensure the safety of lives and property. There are other spending which I failed to capture. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 10:05pm On May 13, 2020 |
Singapore1:I am open to other scenarios you can bring. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:06pm On May 13, 2020 |
odizeey: I'm only just getting the joke after your explanation |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 10:07pm On May 13, 2020 |
Godx: A simple question for you. And I hope you will be honest. Can you a Christian see yourself marrying a FERVENT Muslim girl. Please also attach a reason to your answer. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 10:12pm On May 13, 2020 |
donjazet:The answer and the reason is in the post you quoted. "loving my neighbors as I love my self" |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 10:13pm On May 13, 2020 |
Godx: My first post on this issue answers your question. donjazet: |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 10:15pm On May 13, 2020 |
donjazet:It doesn't even scratch the surface. This is my question "I believe in God and my beliefs are set on not stealing, lying, commiting adultery, killing, bearing false witness and loving my neighbors as I love my self. If I obey those basic principles how is my faith a problem to Nigeria?" Provide an answer to that. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Singapore1(m): 10:17pm On May 13, 2020 |
i don't mind bundesliga at this stage 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 10:25pm On May 13, 2020 |
Godx: I have said it before that deriving your values from the Bible or any other holy book is actually dangerous because it is very much contradictory and you can justify any action you take with quotes or verses of the Holy book. Now you are conveniently pointing out the good part that teaches you love. What apart the part that condemns the unbelievers. Or the part that term people opposed to the religion to "die by fire". What about the part of the hadith that encourages mass murder and promise of 72 virgins in "paradise". In the end we gain our moral values IN SPITE of religion not because of religion. A religious person will ALWAYS be suspicious of someone who doesn't share his same belief. Nigerias problems hinge on both RELIGIOUS AND TRIBAL DIFFERENCES. this has been my point all along. The two go hand in hand. I chose to ask you about the inter religious marriage, because marriage is the ultimate social structure of unity. Any two people that can get married without any social problems indicate a healthy relationship between the two sides. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 10:26pm On May 13, 2020 |
Godx: You kinda dodged the question? Can you marry a fervent Muslim? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 10:27pm On May 13, 2020 |
gensteejay: Take responsibility of your life and your environment to start with. gensteejay: Who asked you to go for a post? With all your noise making and critical thinking you still failed to get the message…lol. How else can you contribute to your nation if all you do is complain while those who are interest in politics run circles around you? gensteejay: This is part of the lies you keep telling yourself. You can’t be smart yet allow yourself to be played by the factors you’ve mentioned. Even the so-called illiterates are the people controlling things to some extent in your environment while politically lazy/dead youths like yourself continue to lament. gensteejay: Shut up you dimwit! You talk about the system like you understand how it works. What is the use of all the ancient history you’ve been wasting your time studying if you still don’t understand fundamentals of life? Where are the solutions you’ve proffered? You had your chance to shine earlier in the day but chose to run away when it became obvious that your conspiracies won’t bail you. gensteejay: You’ve succeeded in describing yourself and those in your circle. You are not interested in the politics (your environment), but you wish to go to saner climes where the citizens have thoroughly invested in the happenings around them? gensteejay: Yes, I agree with you. But how do you change this if all you do is lament on the pages of NL? gensteejay: I knew it… Why am I not surprised by this? Of course, the entitled mentally. Let the parents not spend their hard-earned money the way they desire because they’ve got grown kids waiting for their parent’s bailout funds. I won’t be surprised if this is you indirectly telling us your story or the reality you’ve been dealing with. gensteejay: If you’ve earned money, I believe it’s your right to determine where you want to create your heaven. You can even create it in your dreams ffs it’s your bloody money. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 10:29pm On May 13, 2020 |
donjazet:Still you haven't even said anything that comes close to what I asked. You are going round and round in circles. You said religion is the problem in Nigeria I said ok fine. Use my religion which is Christianity as a case study. "I believe in God and my beliefs are set on not stealing, lying, commiting adultery, killing, bearing false witness and loving my neighbors as I love my self. If I obey those basic principles how is my faith a problem to Nigeria?" 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon: 10:29pm On May 13, 2020 |
diggz:
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 10:34pm On May 13, 2020 |
BlueRayDick: You are wasting your time with this one. Person go siddon dey form critical thinker meanwhile all him reasoning na to confuse himself more. He can't even see beyond his nose. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 10:44pm On May 13, 2020 |
donjazet: I grew up in Muslim-Christian home. My old man is a Muslim and my mum a Christian. Till date I've never seen my parents quarrel( I don't even mean fight, I mean quarrel).....They may have their differences which they sort out in the corner of their room, but we the children saw loving parents who married out of love and live their life by the happy choice they made. I kid you Not, some inter-religious marriages are way solid than intra-religious ones. In fact, growing up in such homes makes one tolerant of other people's religious and non-religious views. I personally won't flare up and start calling people fooools and insult them as being not enlightened because of their religious views ( like some people do here on nairaland) 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 10:47pm On May 13, 2020 |
BlueRayDick: Mr critical thinker needs to learn from this. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 10:47pm On May 13, 2020 |
Critical thinking without action. Diggz I Dey gbadun you jare. Fire on. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 10:53pm On May 13, 2020 |
larride: My guy you no see me see wahala. Ordinary to go vote na problem but you'd find them all over social media shouting upandan and forming rubbish. The youngest head of state was 31years yet these old men siddon for one corner dey deceive themselves say religion be their problem...lol 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 10:54pm On May 13, 2020 |
Griffon: lol..hafa bro? |
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