larride:


They want leadership role to fall on their lap.

Or maybe they will beg them to come govern or contribute their quota to nation building.

This your post would have made sense if your and the boy you're quoting have ever held any political post or even run for office.

But here you both are on this forum with you being a staunch member of Buhari's BMC and the other kid always ranting and fighting all about like a Jambite on Nairaland.

Every thread on nairaland had been discussed here. Tuale to you all

larride:


You can’t make a dent overnight.

People have to trust you first. You have to show leadership attribute before they can even begin to trust your candidacy.

The first point is always your locality. All politics is local.
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Wrong. Not all politicians started from grassroots.
Some were technocrats or bureaucrats who were simply handpicked by their principals to succeed them.
Eg, Obianno of Anambra.
I don't need to remind you that majority of the current political class are political offsprings of former military regimes
.
Many state governors and senators were handpicked individuals who necessarily didn't have to build up their image.

Some simply have the privilege of being from wealthy well known families.

All our democratic presidents had no grassroots buildup.
Obasanjo was from the military.
He handpicked yaradua to succeed him because of his late army brother who had died.
Jonathan was a professor who was handpicked by Alamesie in other to balance the zoning ticket on recommendation from Peter odilli. As a matter of fact, he was chosen as VP by Obasanjo because he was perceived as weaker than odilli.
Jonathan never had any strong grassroots movement even till today despite having served as president. He has been a victim of extreme luck.

I don't need to tell you about buhari. In as much as he had a fanatical following in his region, it was a following built as a result of his past military leadership.
Not all politics is local, this is Nigeria, we don't have a system yet where people can crop up genuinely. It is difficult.

timbros:


See as everybody dey bin Kaka upandan.

At his prime, this guy was unplayable....

It is not a slight on Kaka. Na question wey you ask people dey answer.

If you had put Kaka, Okocha, Ortega maybe people would answer differently but those 2 (Zizou, Gaucho) are Kaka's seniors.

That is how everybody will be running from Local politics till Larride wins seat to represent his constituency in his state house of assembly and we will say he has join Apc cult

In a place like Nigeria where we have some majority of the people being unlettered, the best bet is to have physical presence; u should be in the face of the people prior to an election year before they will take u serious.

gensteejay:

This your post would have made sense if your and the boy you're quoting have ever held any political post or even run for office.

But here you both are on this forum with you being a staunch member of Buhari's BMC and the other kid always ranting and fighting all about like a Jambite on Nairaland.

Shut up you pleb!

You are the definition of Buharis lazy youth. All talk, no actions. All theory, no applications. All passion, no results. You are nothing short of a disaster! A dysfunctional being who lack the basic skills to survive in life.

Mr critical thinker aka confused being! You are a miserable excuse of an adult stealing free oxygen from this world....life should make you pay for it so you can experience responsibility for once in your useless life.

afrodoc2:


It is not a slight on Kaka. Na question wey you ask people dey answer.

If you had put Kaka, Okocha, Ortega maybe people would answer differently but those 2 (Zizou, Gaucho) are Kaka's seniors.

IMHO Ronaldinho and Kaka are almost on the same level.

I said almost. Ronaldinho just edge Kaka for me..

simonjassy:
would you care to explain how?.
Cause the bastards looting naija are religious people oh.who have heard the tenets and practices of their religion for years.
I know very little about islam,but i can tell you that the forgiveness clause in christianity makes it easier for the christian looters to reconcile their actions with their faith i.e if they ever believed in the 1st place.

Are you a Christian or a Muslim or you were once one?

diggz:


Shut up you pleb!

You are the definition of Buharis lazy youth. All talk, no actions. All theory, no applications. All passion, no results. You are nothing short of a disaster! A dysfunctional being who lack the basic skills to survive in life.

Mr critical thinker aka confused being! You are a miserable excuse of an adult stealing free oxygen from this world....life should make you pay for it so you can experience responsibility for once in your useless life.

I will be surprised if that stupid Islamic mod fails to ban you and leave the boy you've been arguing with, to go free.

madrid5:

1.superstion
2.lack of scientific literacy (very necessary in national development)
3.bigotry(there are people especially in the north who don't vote for people outside their religion,gays are basically regarded as sub humans are their sexuality are illegal subject to death or imprisonment, acholic drinks are destroyed in the north etc)

1. How is superstition a problem? Is this superstitious problem peculiar to Nigeria/Africa alone?

2. Some religious people that are doing very well in medicine, tech, agriculture. How come if religion is supposed to prevent scientific literacy?

3. We're divided by selfish people looking to pursue their own agenda. This same northerners voted Obasanjo, no?

gensteejay:

Those shallow-minded people above can't see the importance of this, unless you join politics and contest for a post. As far as they are concerned, you must be a politician to contribute to nation-building.

That's the sort of warped mentality we're taking about.

What other ways are there and which one are you participating in so some of us can start to contribute our own quota

donjazet:

As someone posted earlier, at THIS POINT, going to vote for a third party candidate is a waste of time when you know the impossible odds of that candidates number making a dent not to talk of winning, however one can still enact change in other people's mind by relentlessly educating and informing others of the need for change both in person and on social media. On my watsapp, facebook, twitter and instagram page, I constantly advocate for radical change in our political and religious mindset. Overtime, more will key into this.

I have made a lot of people around me start questioning what they believe, that's effective work if you ask me.

What's your Twitter handle?

Griffon:


Do you expect any rational thought from a man who is obsessed with the promise of a certain heaven or some virgins afterlife?

Those Yahoo boys, stealing people's wealth to buy cars and other luxuries are certainly not doing that because of a certain heaven or some virgins afterlife

timbros:


IMHO Ronaldinho and Kaka are almost on the same level.

I said almost. Ronaldinho just edge Kaka for me..

Zidane
Ronaldinho
Kaka

It is known.

donjazet:


I highly doubt the bolded, saying that a couple who have lived together for years under one roof have NEVER QUARRELED in front of the kids at is highly doubtful.

However, I understand the point you are trying to pass across.
The truth is that such an inter-religious marriage is very rare to come across, so when it does happen, it means that the couple really love themselves to have married against all odds faced in the society, so psychologically, an us-versus-them mentality forms which strengthens and holds the bond between the couple.

Definitely any child from such a rare marriage is bound to be more open-minded towards both religion.
Because for the marriage to work, they must have compromised on aspects of their religion and most likely not forced their beliefs on the children.

My parents never quarreled in front of us. I know of a time dad was pissed but they went to the room to sort it out.

You're talking about a marriage between a Christian and a Muslim, what about one between an atheist and a religious person? Won't the constant prayers in the home irritate you? Will you ever want to participate?

diggz:


You can say whatever you want, but it won't change your reality. Your family failed you, Islam failed you, and you've failed you.

Point of correction: It was his corrupted intellect that failed him not Islam, I'm quite sure the guy was too lazy to study the sciences of Islam that's why he was saying Yahweh went to Ogbomosho to learn juju work.
Sometimes he will say something intelligent and you'd be like wow! this guy is a genius and the next moment he will say another bereft of any atom of intelligence- this is what happens when one is confused in his thoughts, ideas, and realism you jump from one weave things together that are not coherent and consistent.

diggz:


Shut up you pleb!

You are the definition of Buharis lazy youth. All talk, no actions. All theory, no applications. All passion, no results. You are nothing short of a disaster! A dysfunctional being who lack the basic skills to survive in life.

Mr critical thinker aka confused being! You are a miserable excuse of an adult stealing free oxygen from this world....life should make you pay for it so you can experience responsibility for once in your useless life.

Keep on fighting all about Nairaland, internet warrior. I no get time to exchange words with a nut case

That's my last response to you.

Amoto94:

Point of correction: It was his corrupted intellect that failed him not Islam, I'm quite sure the guy was too lazy to study the sciences of Islam that's why he was saying Yahweh went to Ogbomosho to learn juju work.
Sometimes he will say something intelligent and you'd be like wow! this guy is a genius and the next moment he will say another bereft of any atom of intelligence- this is what happens when one is confused in his thoughts, ideas, and realism you jump from one weave things together that are not coherent and consistent.

Something is terribly wrong with you and the kid you're quoting. I even know more about your religion more than you do, ode. Your holy book, haadith, and other literature are in my library here.

Those things you said up there are only figments of your own imagination. I even see you've poor retention as I never stated anything like the tripe you typed above.

You can keep on making wrong assumptions about things you know nothing about.

When you grow out of stupidity and mental slavery, you'll learn to contribute to discussion intelligently without going off tangent and sounding maniacal.

It's a mad man that says personal things about someone he barely knows.

That's my last response to you.

madrid5:

1.superstion
2.lack of scientific literacy (very necessary in national development)
3.bigotry(there are people especially in the north who don't vote for people outside their religion,gays are basically regarded as sub humans are their sexuality are illegal subject to death or imprisonment, acholic drinks are destroyed in the north etc)

I said list the conflicts religion has brought Nigeria that has stunted his development you are typing superstition and Gayism. What is lack of scientific literacy? Christians are very much educated and they are even doctors,engineers, inventors etc Are you saying Christianity prohibit its followers from acquiring education?

donjazet:


You are the one beating around the bush.
You are cherrypicking the best part of the Bible to suit your narrative and I am pointing out your hypocrisy in doing so?

You pointed out that your religion tells you not to commit adultery but convienetly left out FORNICATION. Do you adhere to that part of not?
Your religion supports SLAVERY, do you believe that or not.
Your religion is purely MISOGYNISTIC and believes that women are lesser than men.
Do you support that?
Your Bible admonishes violence to unbelievers, Do you support that or not.


Can you see how nobody can call himself a true believer without being divisive and malevolent towards his neighbors.

different religions set different standards for it's followers making it almost impossible to live side by side in unity.

You can't cherrypick which part of your religion you want to follow and turn a blind eye to the other.

You keep going off the rails my friend. Now its clear you don't actually don't know anything about Christianity and it reforms about the Mosaic covenant. Next time don't speak about topics you know nothing about.

eph12:

Are you a Christian or a Muslim or you were once one?

I was born in a christian home but i cannot consider myself one,as i never officially gave my life to christ.

simonjassy:
I was born in a christian home but i cannot consider myself one,as i never officially gave my life to christ.

See your post below

simonjassy:
would you care to explain how?.
Cause the bastards looting naija are religious people oh.who have heard the tenets and practices of their religion for years.
I know very little about islam,but i can tell you that the forgiveness clause in christianity makes it easier for the christian looters to reconcile their actions with their faith i.e if they ever believed in the 1st place.

Did these ones tell you "they gave their lives to Christ"?

diggz:


You can replace heaven or some virgins in afterlife with money/wealth or power or promotion, free high class oloshos or quality shayo or health or brand-new Ferrari/Bugatti or penthouse suite or yacht etc... on earth. my brother what's your point?

I understand donjazet's point but i feel he didn't pass the point properly.Basically,i think what he is trying to say is that it is easier to accept/tolerate injustices against ourselves when we're confident that an "afterlife" exists where we the oppressed will be given "joy,peace of mind "etc and our oppressors will/may be deemly punished for their actions.This was pretty much how the slaves in usa back then justified the hard labour.
Personally,i feel we need to let Nigerians understand that whether there is life after death or not,should not be seen as a greater purpose for existence than to foster the nationalism.

eph12:

See your post below

Did these ones tell you "they gave their lives to Christ"?

Eph12 is back with impressive posts, unbelievable.

......

eph12:

See your post below

Did these ones tell you "they gave their lives to Christ"?

lol,they did not but i am sure if you interview them,they would claim to be "christians" and "muslims".
The problem here is that there are many disparities on what makes one a "christian" or "muslim".Pretty much why there are several "christian" and "muslim" sects.

Melvyn11:

Kaka is not different from Ronaldinho. Nostalgic has made Ronaldinho better than he actually was.

Even Neymar has surpassed Ronaldinho. People are blinded by Romanticism.

airmark:


Eph12 is back with impressive posts, unbelievable.

Something dey your head. So when I call out frauds, my posts become unimpressive abi?

simonjassy:
lol,they did not but i am sure if you interview them,they would claim to be "christians" and "muslims".
The problem here is that there are many disparities on what makes one a "christian" or "muslim".Pretty much why there are several "christian" and "muslim" sects.

So the issue is not the religion but man's deceptiveness? Or their claim is enough to put the blame of their misdeeds on the religion?

Godx:


You keep going off the rails my friend. Now its clear you don't actually don't know anything about Christianity and it reforms about the Mosaic covenant. Next time don't speak about topics you know nothing about.

what reforms if I may ask?.Why should christianity need reforms in the first place?.

Ibime:


I'm only just getting the joke after your explanation

that gif kill me.