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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:50am On May 14, 2020 |
Austine1212: Ofcourse! 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:55am On May 14, 2020 |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:56am On May 14, 2020 |
TayserMahri: You can check out the vids i posted |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:04am On May 14, 2020 |
Austine1212: Traditional african naming has a routine. Some societies name after ancestors, others after immediate grandparents, others after seasons, time of day, etc... Butthold Winkler is certainly not one of the seasons in Africa. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:08am On May 14, 2020 |
TayserMahri: What would a name Change? Its not like it has correlation to success, wealth, education Unless you royal |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:08am On May 14, 2020 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:14am On May 14, 2020 |
Austine1212: Durban was nice. How is crime there? 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:21am On May 14, 2020 |
Austine1212: They could call themselves anything, but at least as much as possible people should try to maintain their cultures and names.Let the Chinese stick by his original name, a European by his, an African too. Otherwise, eventually African names will disappear, all because gullible Africans like Butthold Whistler wanted to sound European. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:27am On May 14, 2020 |
TayserMahri: Ive personally never experienced crime, nor saw it 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:29am On May 14, 2020 |
TayserMahri: Some Chinese south african has african names Even some white south africans |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:31am On May 14, 2020 |
TayserMahri: A name does not change how cultural you are, you can be kukuyu and be as indian as they come 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:32am On May 14, 2020 |
Austine1212: Cool, you live there? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:34am On May 14, 2020 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:42am On May 14, 2020 |
Austine1212: That is more understandable. A Chinese SAn is surrounded by Africans and could give themselves the names in their immediate society due to intermarriages and so forth. Same case with Black people in Europe or the US, or Asians in Europe/US, or Europeans in China/Africa. But here we're talking of someone who, if am right, has absolutely no reason to give themselves a European name except for self indulgence, possibly even to distance himself from his roots. Because he doesnt seem to be linked to the Winklers (whoever they were) in any way. Obviously his mum and dad were black, as were his grandparents and ancestors. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:46am On May 14, 2020 |
TayserMahri: In some African countries or tribes surnames didn't exist until European came Normally one would have an African name the second one would be a Christian name eg joseph, gabriel, paul |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:52am On May 14, 2020 |
Austine1212: Not true. An ethnic group is not similar to nationality. An Indian can be Kenyan but cannot be Kikuyu, a Kikuyu can be Kenyan but not ethnically Indian. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 6:53am On May 14, 2020 |
TayserMahri: Buharis Fula daughter ehh, you guys sample royalty everyday ![]() |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:54am On May 14, 2020 |
Austine1212: Really bro? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:56am On May 14, 2020 |
TayserMahri: Yes 57m people, you really don't expect anyone to experience crime, even more thanthan half will not experience it |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:57am On May 14, 2020 |
TayserMahri: Constitution allows for surname change |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:00am On May 14, 2020 |
Austine1212: Thats true. The Africans in the process of being christianized were told they could only become proper Christians worthy of heaven by having a European first name. Obviously it was a colonial master plan to rob Africans of their heritage and roots. This is why having your ancestral name is important because that's how you know thyself. That's why I have an issue with Butthold Whistler. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 7:02am On May 14, 2020 |
kikuyu1: Like many Southern Kyukes he was adapted from the Maasaaithis right here exactly supports an assimilation of the Maa who then graciously distributed their genes to the Agikuyu for generations. That's what I noted with the moipei sisters reply... |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:02am On May 14, 2020 |
Justnotyou: Thats Bubu's daughter? Didnt know.....but royalty is ma thing ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:05am On May 14, 2020 |
Austine1212: Blame it on the crime videos from SA. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:07am On May 14, 2020 |
Austine1212: Yes, but that wont change your ethnicity. If your name was Nana Baidoo, for instance, then you change to Butthold Whistler, that doesnt make you European. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chrisagyei: 7:12am On May 14, 2020 |
TayserMahri:those in the coastal areas in Ghana then Gold Coast mostly bear European surnames from their great grandfathers who were Europeans during the colonial and slave trade era.These Europeans came alone without their wives so they got engaged with the locals and gave birth to several mixed race children and thus these children bearing European names such as van vicker,nelson,winkler,buckle,DeRooy,Johnson, Richardson,Blankson,Hammond,Woods,Arthur, etc which are very common surnames in the coastal regions of Ghana from Greater Accra to Cape Coast to Takoradi where Wode Maya comes from.His bearing of this European name implies that his great grandfather was an European. Some of these Europeans raped the slaves and took away the babies to nurture them when they gave birth.Jerry Rawlings has a Scottish dad thus his surname Rawlings. Note that the Europeans first came to Ghana in 1471 and left in 1960 after Ghana gained a republic and they are still in Ghana in their millions so they have a huge impact in our history. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzal3ndo(m): 7:19am On May 14, 2020 |
TayserMahri:FYI, in a lab environment you have to test and make use every equipment and device you get is working properly, you just don't procure something them you just start using it. Failure to do so is direct incompetence or negligence and for the national health lab that is total unacceptable. The head didn't get fired because the numbers where spiking but rather because the lab failed to detect that some of the kits are faulty. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzal3ndo(m): 7:21am On May 14, 2020 |
TayserMahri:In a lab environment you have to test and make use every equipment and device you get is working properly, you just don't procure something them you just start using it. Failure to do so is direct incompetence or negligence and for the national health lab that is total unacceptable. The head of the lab got fired because the lab failed to detect that some of the kits are faulty. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:22am On May 14, 2020 |
chrisagyei: Makes sense. But hardly for the guy we're talking about. He doesnt even look to have the slightest trace of caucasian blood in his body. Such people are usually physically mulattoes. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzal3ndo(m): 7:23am On May 14, 2020 |
TayserMahri:Most of the elderly population in Tanzania are located in remote rural areas and so far most of the cases reported are in urban settings, with the current rate of spreading it will take some time before we see a strong effect of the virus to the elderly population. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:25am On May 14, 2020 |
I agree with you. Kikuyus are bantus (at least half of them) while Maasai are nilotes - and their closest relatives are Lotuko who occupy Juba South Sudan. Lotuko and Maasai language is very close to be one language.Maasai nearest cousins are Turkanas, Iteso and Toposa and Eastern South Sudanase and they came to kenya together. Kenya migration is pretty easy. The aboriginal were here - never left. They are part of Khoisan and speak click language. Some bantus like Xhosa down south have adapted part of their language but generally, they were so weak, they got assimilated. Most people apart from Khoisans - hunter & gatherers - lived along river beds - because of agriculture & few domesticated animals - pastoralism not really began. The next wave of migration to kenya was by 2 groups - proto-Kalenjin and proto-southern Kushites (oromos+somalis). Kalenjin were northmost of other nilotes - and lived around current Khartoum - the Luos and related (dinka, nuer, etc) just below them - and Maasai and related below in Juba - while the Kushites lived not far up around the Kush. This was pre-Christianity times. They went through Ethiopia eventually to East Africa all way down to Tanzania. Kushites would later split into Oromos and Somalis. The next wave of migration was Bantus. Coming from Cameroon/Nigeria border they quickly spread thanks to their newly discovered Iron technology (probably copied from Nigeria or Chad) as they forged tools to cultivate and hack through forests. This was a massive migration that happened very quickly - as Bantus conquered the territories previously occupied by Khoisans in Central, South and East Africa. There is very little genetic or language diversity between bantus...because of the rapid migration. The next wave of migration in Kenya was nilotes - Maasai, Turkanas and later the Luos. The Maasai arrival was momentous. They basically took territory quickly from north of Kenya to south of Tanzania. Only getting stopped by Zulu breakaway Ngonis. Because the Maasai were very populous (largest tribe in Kenya) and had fighting spirits never seen before - many attempted to befriend them - and so even kidnapped maasai kids.Maasai also took in nearly every tribe as wives or kidnapped kids. This was true for many communities - not only the Kikuyus.The Maasai came from the theatre of war somewhere in South Sudan together with their cousins - turkanas, Iteso, taposa and those in Ethiopia - and later Luos (Luos lived north - near current Sudan) - and all were possibly escaping forced Islamization and slave trades from Arab and Nubians....and mostly thanks to acquisition of new breed of hardy zebu cows from India. The last people to migrate to kenya was colonizing Europeans and their lanky Asians...and of course Nubians. Justnotyou:
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzal3ndo(m): 7:25am On May 14, 2020 |
TayserMahri:Yes, there is a difference between permanently closing the border and temporary closing it so as to make an assessment on how to handle it. The foreign minister addressed in in parliament yesterday, the border will be opened in a week tops. |
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