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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:31am On May 14, 2020 |
Mzal3ndo: Everyone in the world knows some test kits are faulty. But they are being used nonetheless rather than having none. No other sane country has fired their lab head simply because the test kits are faulty. Thats foolish in the middle of a pandemic. What actually happened is that she refused to play to the tune of doctoring figures to maintain an artificial small prevalence due to her scientific ethical standards. Is she Tanzanian by birth? Her name sounds Kenyan, which could be another of the reasons behind her unceremonious dismissal. Anyway, for a doctor am shocked you could be defending such incompetence. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:31am On May 14, 2020 |
TayserMahri: Exactly a name is a name, a surname is a surname |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:33am On May 14, 2020 |
TayserMahri: Is name a heritage? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:34am On May 14, 2020 |
TayserMahri: Which roots were robbed? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzal3ndo(m): 7:34am On May 14, 2020 |
rvp2018:Its kinda hard to get paranoid when you have deaths from Malaria, HIV, Typhoid Fever and Dengue also not forgetting armed militias and gangs. Sometimes you just stare into death so much eventually you learn how to smile. Corona is a problem, but it ain't worse than what we have faced before. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:36am On May 14, 2020 |
Mzal3ndo: Whats the plan now? Did you manufacture your own perfect kits? And why did you import herbs from Madagascar to treat people who were confirmed positive using faulty kit? As your neighbors have already shown, there is a high level of prevalence in your country. They are using the same test kits at the border as the ones more inland, but the ones at the border with Tanzania are showing that you have a high concentration of the virus in your country. You could fire 1000 lab heads and the virus would still continue to exist and spread. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:36am On May 14, 2020 |
chrisagyei: Millions? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzal3ndo(m): 7:38am On May 14, 2020 |
vaxx:Tanzania and Sweden are way ahead on this.... |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:38am On May 14, 2020 |
Mzal3ndo: How do you know the current rate of spreading without tests? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chrisagyei: 7:42am On May 14, 2020 |
TayserMahri:it's a long trace some dating back to 400 years ago so the fair color might have gotten lost in between due to his mixed race blood great great grandfathers marrying various other Ghanaians thus losing the mixed race complexion buh the surname is still maintained so you can easily trwce his route to an European great great grandfather. They have all those records there buh that of the African Americans sent into slave trade was intentionally lost so that such people may find it impossible to trace their roots buh in the case of the mixed race offsprings,you can easily trace their route.We have their family home buildings still in existence today normally referred to the surname such as Guggisburg house,Blankson House,Nelson House,Hammond house,James House all over the coastal areas in Ghana.So you can easily trace Wode Maya's European root.This is an example below https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aQJ7TrNMJ4 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:43am On May 14, 2020 |
Mzal3ndo: How is that good news for your country? You realize the Zambians are talking of Tanzanian border, not any other border. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:46am On May 14, 2020 |
Austine1212: Part of it. A name is one of those heritable portions of society. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:47am On May 14, 2020 |
Austine1212: Bro, I know where you stand on this and similar matters and I don't blame you at all. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:48am On May 14, 2020 |
Mzal3ndo: This sweeden? 2 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:50am On May 14, 2020 |
TayserMahri: You didn't answer me |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:55am On May 14, 2020 |
Interesting - so the European sort of settled down like Arabs did along the East Africa coast? I never thought they disembarked from their ships - just ship loaded the slaves. chrisagyei: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 7:56am On May 14, 2020 |
rvp2018: Finally someone who writes factual history, point of correction there were a few nilotic and cushitic people in kenya and east Africa prior to the bantu expansion. they were easily conquered or assimilated by the bantus especially around the mountain regions. mt Kenya and kilimanjaro. Fyi kalenjin also come from the warrior nilotic tribe it's only that they adapted to the bantu way of life and became farmers like their neighbors. The maasai have a disgust towards agriculture and even called kalenjin and other warrior tribes who started farming derogatory names. the kikuyu people and to a larger extent Mt Kenya people have less bantu blood than other bantus in the country simply because of mixing with both nilotes and cushites and during colonialism they mixed with Indians fyi they brought syphilis to kikuyu land and also Europeans. typical kikuyu dna would show 40-50%percent bantu or 40-50%nilotic DNA. 10-20%Somali or cushitic DNA and 1-10% European/asian/arab DNA varying on region of course. the poster Kikuyu usually has good points but unfortunately is a sucker for conspiracies and this erases some of his points. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chrisagyei: 7:56am On May 14, 2020 |
Austine1212:yea it's sad though buh it's a little over 2 million . |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:00am On May 14, 2020 |
Austine1212: I dont need to. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:03am On May 14, 2020 |
rvp2018: Must have been a very slight minority who did so. The offspring from such unions barely changed in physical appearance compared to the Kenyan coast. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:04am On May 14, 2020 |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:13am On May 14, 2020 |
So Kalenjin are 'very' different from other Nilotes. They actually have no cousins in South Sudan like other Nilotes. There reason Kalenjin moved to Kenya a long time ago - together with Kushites. These are not present-day Kushites - but proto-eastern Kushites - long before they split. When Kalenjin moved to Kenya - pastoralism has not started in Sudan (Egypt) - everyone lived along the river Nile - mostly farming and keeping a few domesticated animals. The proto-kushites include sirikwa who did elaborate irrigation schemes - and were noted farmers- and some remnant tribes like Iraqwis can be found in Tanzania. I am not sure about Tutsi and Himas - seem to have come later.Kalenjin found aboriginal and live together - and most aboriginal speaks Kalenjin including those in Somalia or kenya coast. Kalenjin the language itself has about 50-50 cognates with eastern cushitic languages. These Kushites would late move up north and east - split into promos and Somalia - and Somalis would later convert to Islams - from 10th century when Arabs arrived from the coast - and Somalis would start to imagine they came from Arabia or Yemeni. The Kenya bantus - are indeed very mixed - because they are north most of Bantus around here- and intermixed with nilotes, Kushites and aboriginal. So yes when Bantus moved here - they found Kalenjin, Kalenjin-speaking aboriginals and Kushites. The Maasai and their cousins would arrive later - and scatter everyone. The Luos arrived in Kenya in 15th century - and Maasai probably an 8-10th century.Bantus brought iron technology - and tubers crops from West Africa - like arrowroots, yams, sweet potatoes, cassavas - and adopted millet, sorghum - that were being cultivated by agropastoral Kalenjin and others. Everyone pretty much copied honey culture from Khoisan aboriginals. If you want to see a microcosm of kenya before arrival of bantus - you need to visit lake Eyasi in Tanzania. There you'll find cushites(Iraqwis,gorowas), kalenjin )(Datooga,Barbabaig) and aborignals(Hadzabe) - all cut off from the main stock living together - as primitives as it were. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n259yhVNljM kevomtaani: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 8:14am On May 14, 2020 |
Austine1212: Can anyone else sense the passive aggression? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chrisagyei: 8:16am On May 14, 2020 |
rvp2018:the men did including missionaries, soldiers, educaionists,soldiers, government workers,professionals,mercants,business men,traders,health care workers,etc buh they hardly came with their wives due to the harsh weather conditions so most of these men married and breed with Ghanaian women to give birth to mixed race children thus most of the people in the coastal areas bear European surnames with European origins such as our former president John Evans Atta Mills,former vice president Fiifi Amissah Arthur(they corrupt Atta to Arthur),Black Star footballers Michael Essien,John Paintsil,Samuel Inkoom,Harrison Afful,Augustine Arhinful,etc Ghanaian actor James Gardiner,etcMusician Kwesi Arthur,former Ghanaian chief justice Georgina Woods,ministers such as Samuel Bartels,Betty Mould,personal John Mahama lawyer Tony Lithur,national heroes Kwegyir Aggrey,Ekim Ferguson, William Paa Grant,etc. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 8:16am On May 14, 2020 |
Austine1212: A name is your identity. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:17am On May 14, 2020 |
gallivant: IDENTITY NUMBER is your identity |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 8:20am On May 14, 2020 |
Austine1212: Africans are nobility however some have clearly lost their path. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 8:21am On May 14, 2020 |
Austine1212: I am not a prisoner. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:25am On May 14, 2020 |
gallivant: Even if your name and surname your identity number won't change I never said you a prisoner |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:25am On May 14, 2020 |
But we are talking post-Berlin conference to portion Africa or pre - 1884 Bismark conference? I am interested in the period before that like early 18th century towards 15th century. chrisagyei: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:26am On May 14, 2020 |
chrisagyei: No thats not true, they way less not even close to a million Do want sources? 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 8:32am On May 14, 2020 |
Austine1212: I have an identity number on my national ID, but my name is unique. My name defines who I am culture wise. In prison they take away your name and identity and give you a random number. I am not a random nika because I have a name. |
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