Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chrisagyei: 2:06pm On May 14, 2020 |
kevomtaani:
[/b] really now bro we are arguing over a word..fine Ghana is cosmopolitan. it doesn't have two million non-black people living there
[b]by colour, Ghana might not have 2 million non black but by citizenship, you are far from the truth. many Ghanaians are even holding two passport since dual citizenship is allowed .
what does that even mean. you clearly said Ghana has 3% of it's population as European and I refuted it. all countries which have dual citizenship have a large number of people holding two different citizenships that's the whole point of having it. I don't think I get your point bro ! I said 3% of the population are specifically white Europeans and even with that being a huge underreporting of the number of whites or foreigners in the country thus the president budgeting more than a billion dollars to identify the total number of non Ghanaians from the Ghanaian citizens in the country which will bring the true number of non Ghanaians in the country. From the last census,20 million out of the over 26 million population in Ghana were Ghanaian citizens with the rest not being Ghanaians 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:13pm On May 14, 2020 |
vaxx: Ok . but how do you in today world identify an indigenous Kenya ? by skin colour or by papers ? ... and when it comes to races. Ghana has a high number of mulatto children who has one or two white European traits . In Kenya its strictly by papers. Skin color doesnt matter. However, the argument is not about papers but numbers (of whites) in Ghana. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:17pm On May 14, 2020 |
chrisagyei: I said 3% of the population are specifically white Europeans and even with that being a a huge underreporting of the number of whites or foreigners in the country thus the president budgeting more than a billion dollars to identify the total number of non Ghanaians from the Ghanaian citizens in the country which will bring the true number of non Ghanaians in the country. From the last census,20 million out of the over 26 million population in Ghana were Ghanaian citizens with the rest not being Ghanaians Really? You need more money to identify the non Ghanaians? What is the difference between what you will do and what used to be done in the previous censuses. A normal census counts everybody within the borders of a country whether they are citizens or not. If you hadnt been identifying foreigners before the only thing you will do now is adding a new column on nationality. How would that cost the billions? And why is it so vital to tell the population of non Ghanaian anyway? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 2:18pm On May 14, 2020 |
TayserMahri:
In Kenya its strictly by papers. Skin color doesnt matter. However, the argument is not about papers but numbers (of whites) in Ghana. And I also think apart from Gulf countries and probably China, citizenship are acquired strictly based on documentation regardless of races or skin . The numbers of white in Ghana is highly debatable. it will come to questions as to who qualify to be called white in Ghana. Ghana has the largest concentration of Arabs in west Africa. and most of them are even European by decent . 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 2:20pm On May 14, 2020 |
chrisagyei: I said 3% of the population are specifically white Europeans and even with that being a huge underreporting of the number of whites or foreigners in the country thus the president budgeting more than a billion dollars to identify the total number of non Ghanaians from the Ghanaian citizens in the country which will bring the true number of non Ghanaians in the country. From the last census,20 million out of the over 26 million population in Ghana were Ghanaian citizens with the rest not being Ghanaians So that leaves 6 million people who ain't ghanaians that being said I know a number of neighbouring countries surrounding you have a lot of their citizens in your country. do you still maintain Ghana has over a million non-black people living inside it's borders? 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 2:24pm On May 14, 2020 |
Just30: there is nothing like one seaport and 2 seaport
There is Terminal 1, Terminal 2 and fishing Harbour
Now there is Terminal 3
The only construction work that was carried out at Tema Harbour was the construction of a Bulk Jetty to Increase the Berth from 12 to 16 at Terminal 1 Construction started in 2013 and ended in 2016. Construction firm was AMANDI.
Now we call that berth the Clinker berth.
Terminal 2 started operation in 2007. Clearly you were testing me when you said you worked at Tema harbour. terminal 1 and terminal 2 in Tema are referred by seaport 1 and 2. and I know what I'm saying when I tell you it was still under construction in 2013 I've even named the bus lines and even companies at the port as you requested or..you still don't believe 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 2:29pm On May 14, 2020 |
Just30: In Ghana, unless there is an occasion going on, you hardly find people just walking along the street except for hawkers
next time you come to Ghana, just check the pops, bars and restaurants after 6PM
I didn't know there were that many Turks in Ghana until i roamed around East Legon Turkish DNR and Palace after 6pm The Turks wanted to use Ghana as their entry point to west Africa. they are mostly in construction. They have done the same in Angola, Rwanda and Tanzania. they usually live together in large numbers very soon they will start putting up restaurants and other businesses in east Lego and spread towards legon in fact very soon the students at legon will be served turkish delicacies heheheh 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:30pm On May 14, 2020 |
vaxx: And I also think apart from Gulf countries and probably China, citizenship are acquired strictly based on documentation regardless of races or skin .
The numbers of white in Ghana is highly debatable. it will come to questions as to who qualify to be called white in Ghana. Ghana has the largest concentration of Arabs in west Africa. and most of them are even European by decent . Race or skin color shouldnt be a basis for citizenship. Its backward thinking in 21st century. I doubt even the Chinese or Arabs do that. Not to be confused with strict immigration controls. The Arabs for instance can easily tell a black or chinese person is alien and so can use that as a basis for checking their ctitizenship status, which could be misconstrued as denying nationality on the basis of race if they are found to be non citizens. Every country has a motive to reduce immigration. But for Ghana to be planning to find out the non Ghanaians, who have been living in Ghana for decades or centuries is wrong. Such people should become Ghanaians by naturalization. In Kenya we recognize such groups as Kenyan after some time. Recently we recognized a community from Mozambique the Makonde as Kenyan citizens. Really, just concentrate on minimizing new waves of migrants. Those who found themselves in Ghana in the previous ages should be allowed to move on smoothly as Ghanaians so long as they are Earth people. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chrisagyei: 2:32pm On May 14, 2020 |
kevomtaani:
So that leaves 6 million people who ain't ghanaians that being said I know a number of neighbouring countries surrounding you have a lot of their citizens in your country. do you still maintain Ghana has over a million non-black people living inside it's borders? Ghana has more than a million white Europeans. Note the word "white Europeans "excluding the Chinese, Lebanese, Americans, Arabs,Indians, and other Africans. Ghana's neighbors are all francophone countries and do not derive pleasure in migrating en mass to Ghana buh prefer to visit to trade and go back to their respective countries. It's Nigeria who have a large presence of population in Ghana. Aside that,if you want to see these white Europeans, they are in selected towns and communities such as Osu,Cantonmemts, Labone,Airport city and Estates, east,west and north Legon,Haatso,North Ridge, Roman Ridge,etc where these white Europeans drive,work,walk,jogg,eat around, party,hang out,shop ,etc in Accra alone. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 2:33pm On May 14, 2020 |
kevomtaani:
Clearly you were testing me when you said you worked at Tema harbour. terminal 1 and terminal 2 in Tema are referred by seaport 1 and 2. and I know what I'm saying when I tell you it was still under construction in 2013 I've even named the bus lines and even companies at the port as you requested or..you still don't believe I tested your knowledge and you failed There is nothing like seaport in any references Pilots and captains call in for call signals as Terminal and berths. There is no bus service that runs through the port What companies did you mention? You had no idea which company carried out the expansion work you claimed to work on until i mentioned it. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 2:38pm On May 14, 2020 |
kikuyu1:
No. I said Tutsis and their Banyankole/Hima kin. I've been to both Rwanda and Uganda and drawn my own conclusion. Talk to Congolese or Ugandans. A later migration from N Ethiopia happened 900 yrs ago and Kuyu Woreda was a dispersal point.
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There's nothing like 100% human in this world,much less Kyukes. I told you to come srowry with the unsolicited homilies,son;you don't know me or anyone here IRL. Obviously you still ascribe to the Bantu migration theory-THAT'S STILL JUST AN UNPROVEN THEORY! The purpose was to separate us into SS and N(Caucasoid)Africa and succeeded. Fyi,I've actually been in the Ituri for a week chasing up a E DRC timber concession over a decade ago and the thought of small groups of Bantus crossing an impenetrable 1500 k forest in small groups is laughable. Its literally impenetrable-no paths and the canopy so thick you need torches. Imo that's the main reason why the migration never happened. Too logistically challenging-I know a guy doing some software installation in the area 7 yrs ago who need a HELICOPTER to get from his tented accommodation to the offices 5 km away.
http://www.eajournals.org/wp-content/uploads/BANTU-THEORYS-TROUBLING-ISSSUES.pdf
Look at Vansina's CV. He's not just another nigga on the net with free time on his hands.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Vansina
Sad to say he checked out relatively recently.
heheheh so now kikuyus are not part of the axle that you mentioned, the hima nyankole tutsi axle. good to hear Let me ask you, do you really believe kikuyus came from Ethiopia? and how comes there isn't even a single bantu tribe left in those areas or even bantu speaking populace? one thing about bantus they could be conquered yes but they would never loose their languages to any invaders. I.e with the nyankole and tutsi they are foreign to those lands but they speak bantu languages. the arabs, persians and portugese along the east African coast are foreign but they speak a bantu language. Please explain how the bantus migrated from North Africa and ME or even Ethiopia without leaving a trace and according to your logic they also penetrated the thick forest to get to Angola, DRC and Gabon from the north. or like your friend they also called a chopper? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:40pm On May 14, 2020 |
Mzal3ndo:
Don’t have to. WHO aren’t optimistic that the virus will go away. How long will you restrict movement![](/faces/huh.png) Zim boarder might close for long, i hope it does It needs a wall |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:44pm On May 14, 2020 |
chrisagyei: i don't need to explain further cos i already did and you claim you don't trust Wikipedia so i have nothing else to explain.Your source is false. Firstly, Ashanti is not an ethnic group, secondly,Ashanti is not the largest ethnic group in Ghana and Ashanti were not settled in Ghana during the 10th century, in fact the Ashanti Kingdom was established around 1700s.Also Ghanaians make up 20 million out of 30 million people living in Ghana .So tell me,who are the 10 million foreigners. Ghana accommodates more than 2 million white Europeans buh we don't acknowledge them as Ghanaians. Same for the Americans,Lebanese, Asians,and other Africans living in Ghana.Note,am an Ashanti, read history in school,done a lot of research and know what am talking about. Although i call those large white population living in Ghana as unfortunate, it's still a fact.If you want to see the white population, go to Osu,Cantonmemts,East Legon,Haatso,Airport city and its estates, Accra Ridge or North Ridge,Roman Ridge,etc and you will see these Europeans who are not just tourists buh live,drive,shop,walk around these towns or communities. Lets end it here, I don't trust Wikipedia Information provided is not what is on ground In you can count places where you find them they can't be million Stay with your truth ill stay with mine adios ![smiley](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/smiley.png) 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 2:47pm On May 14, 2020 |
Just30:
I tested your knowledge and you failed
There is nothing like seaport in any references
Pilots and captains call in for call signals as Terminal and berths.
There is no bus service that runs through the port What companies did you mention?
You had no idea which company carried out the expansion work you claimed to work on until i mentioned it. really? okay I'm not about to prove anything in a faceless forum especially not something as trivial as this. peace 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:47pm On May 14, 2020 |
chrisagyei: i don't need to explain further cos i already did and you claim you don't trust Wikipedia so i have nothing else to explain.Your source is false. Firstly, Ashanti is not an ethnic group, secondly,Ashanti is not the largest ethnic group in Ghana and Ashanti were not settled in Ghana during the 10th century, in fact the Ashanti Kingdom was established around 1700s.Also Ghanaians make up 20 million out of 30 million people living in Ghana .So tell me,who are the 10 million foreigners. Ghana accommodates more than 2 million white Europeans buh we don't acknowledge them as Ghanaians. Same for the Americans,Lebanese, Asians,and other Africans living in Ghana.Note,am an Ashanti, read history in school,done a lot of research and know what am talking about. Although i call those large white population living in Ghana as unfortunate, it's still a fact.If you want to see the white population, go to Osu,Cantonmemts,East Legon,Haatso,Airport city and its estates, Accra Ridge or North Ridge,Roman Ridge,etc and you will see these Europeans who are not just tourists buh live,drive,shop,walk around these towns or communities. Your information is not solid Your very own Wikipedia contradicts it's self 2 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:49pm On May 14, 2020 |
kevomtaani:
I was being trained by a south African company that wanted to expand to other parts of Africa. so they brought us all to the cape. eventually the company moved its headquarters to centurion. Answer my 2 other questions |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 2:55pm On May 14, 2020 |
kikuyu1:
No. I said Tutsis and their Banyankole/Hima kin. I've been to both Rwanda and Uganda and drawn my own conclusion. Talk to Congolese or Ugandans. A later migration from N Ethiopia happened 900 yrs ago and Kuyu Woreda was a dispersal point.
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There's nothing like 100% human in this world,much less Kyukes. I told you to come srowry with the unsolicited homilies,son;you don't know me or anyone here IRL. Obviously you still ascribe to the Bantu migration theory-THAT'S STILL JUST AN UNPROVEN THEORY! The purpose was to separate us into SS and N(Caucasoid)Africa and succeeded. Fyi,I've actually been in the Ituri for a week chasing up a E DRC timber concession over a decade ago and the thought of small groups of Bantus crossing an impenetrable 1500 k forest in small groups is laughable. Its literally impenetrable-no paths and the canopy so thick you need torches. Imo that's the main reason why the migration never happened. Too logistically challenging-I know a guy doing some software installation in the area 7 yrs ago who need a HELICOPTER to get from his tented accommodation to the offices 5 km away.
http://www.eajournals.org/wp-content/uploads/BANTU-THEORYS-TROUBLING-ISSSUES.pdf
Look at Vansina's CV. He's not just another nigga on the net with free time on his hands.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Vansina
Sad to say he checked out relatively recently.
really now the over seven million people living in Israel are all imposters? I mean the current people in Israel since 1948 have come from all corners of the world. many of them were in western Europe while others were in Eastern Europe there are some jews from the middle east and North Africa, also some are from Ethiopia. you mean the whole world watched and agreed as imposters settled in the "holy land" and fooled everyone they were jews? Kikuyu from nairaland is the only person in the world who wasn't fooled pahahahahahahaaah I give up. stay with your beliefs. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chrisagyei: 2:57pm On May 14, 2020 |
Austine1212:
Lets end it here, I don't trust Wikipedia Information provided is not what is on ground
In you can count places where you find them they can't be million
Stay with your truth ill stay with mine adios
the thing is you people give them citizenship buh in Ghana, a white person can never be a Ghanaian except by presidential order or naturalization which is bith an impossible task so they're in between and rather choose to live in Ghana as migrants. The towns i mentioned is just limited to Accra excluding other cities in Ghana. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:03pm On May 14, 2020 |
chrisagyei: Ghana has more than a million white Europeans. Note the word "white Europeans "excluding the Chinese, Lebanese, Americans, Arabs,Indians, and other Africans. Ghana's neighbors are all francophone countries and do not derive pleasure in migrating en mass to Ghana buh prefer to visit to trade and go back to their respective countries. It's Nigeria who have a large presence of population in Ghana. Aside that,if you want to see these white Europeans, they are in selected towns and communities such as Osu,Cantonmemts, Labone,Airport city and Estates, east,west and north Legon,Haatso,North Ridge, Roman Ridge,etc where these white Europeans drive,work,walk,jogg,eat around, party,hang out,shop ,etc in Accra alone. Ghana is 98 black, chinese and Indians are 700k which is almost taking 80% of non black 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 3:04pm On May 14, 2020 |
Im not asking you for proves kevomtaani:
really? okay I'm not about to prove anything in a faceless forum especially not something as trivial as this. peace |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 3:04pm On May 14, 2020 |
Son, here's your Black Nazis! They were max 1500 serving in all services treated and paid equally. This has F all to do with tbe topic but you brought it up.THIS. WORLD. ISN'T. AS. IT.SEEMS.
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:09pm On May 14, 2020 |
I think the era of genetic mapping - there should not be anymore argument of history really. This was 19th century kind of argument - but scientists have since settled most of these issues. Kikuyu are obviously Bantus - the evidence is overwhelming - their language & it's genetics, their human genetics, their crops & genetics, their domesticated animals & their genetics - all point to them being relatives to fellow eastern kenya bantus and mostly Tanzania bantus - and of course you can then trace it all the way to Central African.There is some logic & science in identifying that ultimate origin of group of people. Of course that bantus and afro-asaitic and the nilo-saharans are also close is also a fact EB1b1 (carried by most afro-asiatic) is close to Eb1a (bantus, yorubas, igbo) So yes if you go further Afro-Asiatic and Bantus have one father. At least that is what Y-DNA is telling us.Maybe they have different mothers if we bother with Mt-dna. kevomtaani:
heheheh so now kikuyus are not part of the axle that you mentioned, the hima nyankole tutsi axle. good to hear
Let me ask you, do you really believe kikuyus came from Ethiopia? and how comes there isn't even a single bantu tribe left in those areas or even bantu speaking populace? one thing about bantus they could be conquered yes but they would never loose their languages to any invaders. I.e with the nyankole and tutsi they are foreign to those lands but they speak bantu languages. the arabs, persians and portugese along the east African coast are foreign but they speak a bantu language. Please explain how the bantus migrated from North Africa and ME or even Ethiopia without leaving a trace and according to your logic they also penetrated the thick forest to get to Angola, DRC and Gabon from the north. or like your friend they also called a chopper? 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 3:11pm On May 14, 2020 |
Austine1212:
Answer my 2 other questions identity according to me is your lineage where you are from, your history your beliefs and yes your name plays a vital role in this. the first thing that was done to slaves was rob them of their identity by giving them new names and new beleifs through lashes and even death. I'm assuming you are a bantu south African do you know some bantu tribes you could tell their profession in the societies through their names. like medicine men, blacksmiths etc South Africa has a variety of cultures. I saw a lot of coloureds, blacks and whites even asians. But if I tell you I saw an interracial couple I'll be lying. the person I'm talking about was Black 100% darker than me and both his names were boer. this took me by surprise, I wouldn't say he is from a mixed background but who knows? 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:11pm On May 14, 2020 |
chrisagyei: the thing is you people give them citizenship buh in Ghana, a white person can never be a Ghanaian except by presidential order or naturalization which is bith an impossible task so they're in between and rather choose to live in Ghana as migrants. The towns i mentioned is just limited to Accra excluding other cities in Ghana. A census counts everyone in the country, regardless Your argument is baseles Even Zimbabwe knows who's in their country, citizens andand migrants the information is there its no secret 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chrisagyei: 3:15pm On May 14, 2020 |
Austine1212:
Ghana is 98 black, chinese and Indians are 700k which is almost taking 80% of non black Chinese and Indians?like seriously 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:19pm On May 14, 2020 |
kevomtaani:
identity according to me is your lineage where you are from, your history your beliefs and yes your name plays a vital role in this. the first thing that was done to slaves was rob them of their identity by giving them new names and new beleifs through lashes and even death. I'm assuming you are a bantu south African do you know some bantu tribes you could tell their profession in the societies through their names. like medicine men, blacksmiths etc
South Africa has a variety of cultures. I saw a lot of coloureds, blacks and whites even asians. But if I tell you I saw an interracial couple I'll be lying. the person I'm talking about was Black 100% darker than me and both his names were boer. this took me by surprise, I wouldn't say he is from a mixed background but who knows? Some coloreds are dark in completion, Take Benny MaCarthy the soccer player hes colored thou dark in completion Take Pearl Thusi the actor, she's black but very light incomplection Going back to family tree, most people are able to trace their lineage, history, and practices the same beliefsof their ancestors Even when their names are changed. Ie clan name callings |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:20pm On May 14, 2020 |
I know Kikuyu is looking for where Kikuyus originates and when he found something near Okuyu in Ethiopia - it got him interested. My understanding is that Kikuyu is maasai name; that basically mean lubwa, wakwavi, parakuyo - etc - it basically mean agro-pastoral maasi - someone who had abandoned the noble pastoralism for the lowly farming Most of kenya tribes you'd be surprised to know where give names by either Maasai - to the Arabs slave traders - and those names stuck - Nandi for example is Arab name given to them by arabs. So Kikuyu - come from Ethiopia - and head down Tanzania - and research more about PARAKUYO there. Also called baraguyu. Or maybe in Kenya Agikuyu. It means in Maasai - one of our own who has gone farming or given up on pastoralism. This term parakuyo, kwavi, lubwa - were applied by Maasai to people they thought were close to them but had become farmers - kambas, chagga, kikuyus and kalenjin. "The Kwavi or baraguyu are known historically as a Maa-speaking group, but they have long assocation with the Bantu groups east of Mt Kilimanjaro. They are farmers, and have a lifestyle more like the neighbouring Bantu people in the Kilimanjaro area. You might find that Kwavi people identify themselves by a Bantu clan name, such as Chagga, even though they speak Maa. Likely names would be Chagga, Sambaa (Shambala) or Pare."So basically if significant group of Maasai joined Bantu core of Kikuyus - it very likely the Maasai started to derisively refer them to parakuyo (corrupted maybe to Kikuyu)- or somebody who has abandoned the 'noble' lifestyle of cattle rearing and gone farming which the Maasai disdained. And when people would ask who those people were...Maasai would say parakuyo. kevomtaani:
heheheh so now kikuyus are not part of the axle that you mentioned, the hima nyankole tutsi axle. good to hear
Let me ask you, do you really believe kikuyus came from Ethiopia? and how comes there isn't even a single bantu tribe left in those areas or even bantu speaking populace? one thing about bantus they could be conquered yes but they would never loose their languages to any invaders. I.e with the nyankole and tutsi they are foreign to those lands but they speak bantu languages. the arabs, persians and portugese along the east African coast are foreign but they speak a bantu language. Please explain how the bantus migrated from North Africa and ME or even Ethiopia without leaving a trace and according to your logic they also penetrated the thick forest to get to Angola, DRC and Gabon from the north. or like your friend they also called a chopper? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 3:21pm On May 14, 2020 |
Problemkid1: Akwa Ibom Coconut Refinery, Nigeria’s Future Beckons Wednesday, May 13th, 2020 | News
By Essien Ndueso
When Governor Udom Emmanuel set out to lubricate the once virgin well of agriculture in Akwa Ibom State with the establishment of Africa’s biggest coconut oil refinery, most people had no idea of coconut’s enormous potentials. But the Governor went ahead, displaying his propensity to plan towards an economy beyond crude oil, as if he knew that a certain Coronavirus pandemic would soon bring the world on its knees.
The St. Gabriel Coconut Oil Factory located in Ikot Ekpuk, Mkpat Enin Local Government of the State is handled by VKS Nigeria Construction Limited. The factory which has a projected capacity of processing one million coconuts a day, will commence with a starting capacity of 300,000 coconuts daily. It was flagged off by Governor Emmanuel on May 24, 2017, as part of activities to mark his second year in Office. With a projection of being a future Nigeria might have to fall back on, the refinery project is visionary because of the multi-faceted use of the coconut. As Governor Emmanuel himself put it, the coconut has over 365 uses, implying that there is a different function for the coconut in each day of the year. In cosmetics products, automobiles industry, confectionery, physiotherapy, medicine and general catering, coconut asserts itself as the future the world had longed for.
In recent years, coconut oil has emerged as a potential ‘miracle’ food and source of revenue. Some health specialists and nutritionists have asserted that the coconut oil is capable of promoting health benefits, such as weight reduction, cholesterol lowering, prevention of cardiovascular diseases, and anti-inflammatory effect, among others.
The refinery project which is currently nearing completion has enjoyed the support of host communities, implying that they acceded to the Governor’s charge when he sued for the cooperation of youths in Ikot Abasi, Mkpat Enin and Eastern Obolo and sounded a note of warning to the leaders of the community to resist the temptation of harassing the contractors in order not to frustrate the progress of the factory. As a deal, during the flag off, the State House of Assembly member for Ikot Abasi / Eastern Obolo, Honourable Uduak Ududoh had registered the gratitude of his people to the governor for keeping his electoral promises of providing employment opportunities to indigenes of the area and assured of a pact of peace.
Indeed, the employment opportunities have been encouraging. The project manager, Mr Alper Yilmaz affirmed that eventhough at 80 percent completion no fewer than 1000 people had been engaged at various stages of the project execution which is currently at the state of production line installation. Before the current pandemic, some production lines had arrived and installations are underway, albeit hampered by the Covid-19 lockdown.
This writer visited the coconut refinery project and work had indeed reached an advanced stage. An indigene of the community and Assistant Safety Officer at the project site, Unyime Oliver, expressed gratitude to Governor Udom Emmanuel for having the once neglected Mkpat Enin in his development plan, which has granted youths of the community the opportunity to use the knowledge and skills acquired in School to work. The Warehouse Manager, Ibanga Nsisong averred the project as the first of its kind in West Africa, which will rescue over 5000 unemployed youths from awarding of contracts, to direct and indirect labour. Other workers recounted the challenges of job hunting they faced before the project commenced and described the project as a welcome development that will engage and create wealth for the youths of the community and the people of Akwa Ibom State.But the Health and Safety Supervisor, Mr Aniekan Samuel Peters, went a step further when he thanked the State Government for always releasing funds for equipment to ensure an accident free working environment and prayed for the sustainability of the project beyond the lifespan of the present administration.
The refinery itself, according to the Managing Director of VKS Nigeria Construction Limited, Onur Kumral, sits on a total landmass 78,487 square meters earmarked for the refinery, and this further shows the seriousness at a time when oil from coconut is more expensive than crude oil.
Aggressive construction began in 2017 after the flag off, and on September 25, 2018, Governor Udom Emmanuel inspected the level of work at the coconut refinery project site. Impressed at the pace of work, Governor Udom Emmanuel explained that the foreign market is already ready for the produce of the refinery and described the project as the biggest in Africa, and another project of his administration that will elevate the youths of Akwa Ibom state.
Speaking with newsmen shortly after the inspection, Governor Udom Emmanuel explained that the facility will employ thousands across the state and that the revenue from coconut oil surpasses the revenue from crude oil daily. He furthered that the refinery which will also process palm kernels, will give birth to smaller factories that will process other parts of the coconut fruit.
The facility boasts of administrative offices, production areas, technical spaces, industrial firefighting systems, water treatment plants, effluent treatment plants and residential quarters for technical and managerial staff as well as Green parking areas for tractors carrying raw materials.
If the factory is billed to process and refine over one million coconuts daily, is the state ready to provide the raw materials to feed production? There is the state coconut plantation on 11,000 hectares of land at the Eastern Obolo, Ikot Abasi, Mkpat Enin axis of the state which is meant to accommodate over two million coconut trees. Already, a clarion call has been sounded to all farmers in the state to cultivate coconut as it will be a major revenue spinner in the State’s economy in few months . To show the imperatives of this, the state government had few months ago directed all local government authorities in the state to dedicate at least 50 hectares of land for the cultivation of coconut while 230 public schools were also directed to plant at least 300 coconut trees in their respective premises. But all of these will still not be enough to feed the factory, meaning that all the coconuts produced in Nigeria and neighbouring African countries will have to find their way to the emerging coconut processing hub.
Following his visit to the state recently, renowned journalist and columnist Sam Omatseye had this to say about the Refinery in a piece titled ‘The Udom Challenge’, published in the Nation Newspaper of March 16, 2020, “For a region that teems with forests, it is open for work. The St Gabriel Coconut refinery is still under construction, with work at an advanced stage. It plans to refine 300,000 coconuts a day. This hub will spur agricultural work and employment to feed this buzz of factory needs. All over the state, Governor Emmanuel touts his completion agenda. He has challenged himself. To set up an infrastructure work is one thing, to turn them into fruits is another. Harvests, however, are afoot already.”
Governor Udom Emmanuel has indeed shown that his industrialization agenda in Akwa Ibom, is not a hoax. At least the giant flying birds, Ibom Air attest to the sincerity and commitment of his administration to match policies with action.
Apart from the Kings Flour Mill, the Jubilee Syringe Manufacturing company, Lion Plywood/Timber Manufacturing Company, the rice mills, Metering Solutions Company among others industries established by Governor Udom Emmanuel’s administration, the coconut refinery is one that will contribute in skyrocketing the economy of Akwa Ibom State as it gives hope to individual coconut farmers as a ready market for their farm produce and offers direct and indirect benefits to several others.
These fit the words of Frank Herbert that “good governance never depends upon laws but upon the personal qualities of those who govern” Lol this is beautiful...rvp and the rest doomsayers will never like this...that said. It good to see that that facility will generate more revenue than oil....our diversification plan is rolling out just fine... I am also gladen that the president has revisited the resuscitation of ajaokuta steel plant .. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:21pm On May 14, 2020 |
kevomtaani:
identity according to me is your lineage where you are from, your history your beliefs and yes your name plays a vital role in this. the first thing that was done to slaves was rob them of their identity by giving them new names and new beleifs through lashes and even death. I'm assuming you are a bantu south African do you know some bantu tribes you could tell their profession in the societies through their names. like medicine men, blacksmiths etc
South Africa has a variety of cultures. I saw a lot of coloureds, blacks and whites even asians. But if I tell you I saw an interracial couple I'll be lying. the person I'm talking about was Black 100% darker than me and both his names were boer. this took me by surprise, I wouldn't say he is from a mixed background but who knows? Some coloreds are Malays but we call them coloreds Some are mixed |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:24pm On May 14, 2020 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 3:27pm On May 14, 2020 |
TayserMahri:
Dont expect oil to regain its pre-covid prices this year. That means we expect a massive dip in your cooked economy for the foreseeable future. Lol analyst are already predicting oil price to be pegged at $45 from late June/early July.... You can be logical for once and use your common sense...some weeks back(not even up to 3 weeks) oil traded $0 and at best $12.we all saw buyer been paid to buy US oil cos the reserve where filled up..we even anticipated oil price to continue negative dollar up till next year but fast forward few weeks after and oil price is hovering around $32....and a quarter of the world economy is still not open... expect more rebound than depression.. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 3:34pm On May 14, 2020 |
chrisagyei: They're not citizens buh foreigners. Example is the rohingya community in Myanmar who has lived in Myanmar for centuries buh legally,Myanmar do not consider them as citizens thus they try to force them out.Same as Ghana buh we don't force them out..
Millions of these Europeans have been in Ghana before independence buh the constitution still regard them as foreigners even though they're born and raised in Ghana.To be qualified as a Ghanaian before independence, there're five major ethnic groups known as Ga-Adangbe(natives of Accra and Tema),Akans(which includes the Ashantis,coastal regions and middle belt),Dagombas(Northern parts of Ghana)Guans(first inhabitants in Ghana),Ewes(Far eastern parts if Ghana).Then there's mini ethnic groups who are considered altogether as natives.All these groups became automatic citizens of the newly independent Ghana and thus any one who's not part of these ethnic groups were considered foreigners or aliens or non Ghanaians no matter the number of centuries they have lived in Ghana.
This law has greatly affected the Yourubas for example who migrated to then Gold Coast in 1800s,the Europeans who have lived in Gold Coast since 1470s,Lebanese who had migrated to Ghana in early 1900s,Brazilians who returned back as former slaves were all cut out.So these groups of foreigners still live in Ghana in their millions buh they're not considered as Ghanaians and even if you're born in Ghana and not part of these special ethnic natives of Ghana,you will still not be a Ghanaian.
So currently, out of the 30 million population of Ghana,just 20 million people of them are considered legally as Ghanaian citizens with the 10 million population cut out buh they still live here and somehow see themselves as Ghanaians because many of them have lost routes to their real origins or countries. This is interesting.. But why does such law exist? And to what end ?? It's weird how a certain group have people can trace their family ancestry in a particular country for 6 centuries back but won't be regarded as citizens of such country legally.. |