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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by randomperson: 8:42am On May 15, 2020
hopefulLandlord:
Hey brother, been a long ass time
Ronaldo Delima wasn't known in a any way as a diver and he also knew how to skip over legs of defenders, defenders of the 90s, check out the kinds of tackles he faced against Lazio when Nesta was there for examples. Serie A at the time was known for not only stout defending but brutal tackles too, tackles that would earn a red card to someone who does it to Messi these days would probably be given as just a free kick then
while there might be some truth to it Ronaldo having height did not serve as an impediment to him in tight spaces during his prime, he could both dribble you using magical skills at such places or nutmeg you or use stopovers to throw you off balance and then go past you.
Talent is what I'm arguing but I would find it shocking if you think Messi dealt with as much problems with injuries as much as Ronaldo did.
who needs 2 blocks of four when a single defender is relishing the prospect of ending your ankle with a well executed tackle and a ref is ready to signal play on? also Italian league's defending at the time was well organised. Italian league teams defend well in numbers but also put in brutal tackles when they deem it fit

Yeah, very long time. Was thinking you had left Nairaland for good grin

Anyways, remember Ronaldo was basically a 9, so he generally dribbles from an advanced position... Sometimes Messi picks the ball in midfield and dribbles straight into the box and scores...

I've watched a lot of Ronaldo's goals and I've never seen him score a goal like the one Messi scored against Getafe or Madrid in the ucl semifinals.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 8:43am On May 15, 2020
Swissh:

Godx was right. You haven't said anything sensible at all. What does morning devotion has to do with religion being the problem of Nigeria. Which school did you attend that you weren't taught evolution, biology, chemistry and physics?
me I learnt evolution in my jss3 social studies, in the topic, "The origin of man".
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hopefulLandlord: 8:43am On May 15, 2020
Godx:

I don't get the question you are asking. At least what?

You claimed all slaveries are debt slaveries and labor. I showed the other types were endorsed too and it's not only those two.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:45am On May 15, 2020
hopefulLandlord:


Exodus 12:43-45 (NRSV)
43 The Lord said to Moses and Aaron: This is the ordinance for the passover: no foreigner shall eat of it, 44 but any slave who has been purchased may eat of it after he has been circumcised; 45
no bound or hired servant may eat of it.


Leviticus 22:10-11 (NRSV)
10 No lay person shall eat of the sacred donations. No bound or hired servant of the priest shall eat of the sacred donations; 11 but if a priest acquires anyone by purchase, the person may eat of them; and those that are born in his house may eat of his food.


These passages show that there is a difference between someone who is hired, someone who is a bonded servant, and someone who is bought, paid for, and owned. These are laws for priests. If the Bible had a problem with people owning other people, why couldn't it at least ban the priesthood from owning slaves?

So Priests gon dey capture KuntaKinte?

If only Daddy Freeze was around back then to literally Free the Sheeple.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 8:46am On May 15, 2020
Ibime:
Make una drop these atheist/religious argument which brings problems between fellow Chelsea fans.

Religion is an emotive subject and when you have two extremists like gensteejay and Diggz, problem must surely follow.

Let all men follow Fenibeso to return peace to this thread.



you don take style preach your own gospel o. grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:50am On May 15, 2020
randomperson:


Yeah, very long time. Was thinking you had left Nairaland for good grin

Anyways, remember Ronaldo was basically a 9, so he generally dribbles from an advanced position... Sometimes Messi picks the ball in midfield and dribbles straight into the box and scores...

I've watched a lot of Ronaldo's goals and I've never seen him score a goal like the one Messi scored against Getafe or Madrid in the ucl semifinals.

I watched Ronaldo live at his peak in the 1990s. I did not miss a single match of his 1997/98 season.

Though I considered Ronaldo by far the best player of the 1990s, I can't lie to myself and compare him to Messi. Messi does almost twice what Ronaldo did with less space.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by randomperson: 8:54am On May 15, 2020
Melvyn11:

Guy why do you like to much Shalayes. Ronaldo has gone to two leagues and won every individual and collective awards it has to offer. That is the fact and the greatness of Ororo. Unlike a certain Camp nou legend without a spoon for his Nation.

The only difference between Messi and Ronaldo's international careers is that Eder scored for Portugal... Ronaldo just like Messi has zero goals and assists in all his finals for Portugal.

When you cannot counter an argument, you resort to shouting 'shalaye' ...

Bring facts, No. Bring stats, No! Bring logic, No!

Just shouting shalaye like a robot

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Swissh: 8:54am On May 15, 2020
Greatihex:
me I learnt evolution in my jss3 social studies, in the topic, "The origin of man".
I tire for that Madrid guy. Maybe he dropped out of school at jss1.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hopefulLandlord: 8:55am On May 15, 2020
randomperson:


Yeah, very long time. Was thinking you had left Nairaland for good grin
still here but more of a reader and observer except once in a while when I'm in the mood to debate


Anyways, remember Ronaldo was basically a 9, so he generally dribbles from an advanced position... Sometimes Messi picks the ball in midfield and dribbles straight into the box and scores...

I've watched a lot of Ronaldo's goals and I've never seen him score a goal like the one Messi scored against Getafe or Madrid in the ucl semifinals.

fair but in terms of talent which was the origin of this debate, its not right to say Ronaldo was not as talented as Messi considering what he achieved around 20-21 years of age. Ronaldo is arguably the most talented ever player and would've been seen as the greatest by many if injuries didn't ruin his career.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pkasso(m): 8:59am On May 15, 2020
iamoyindamola:

Where did they come from?
Na isolation center as Leyqute dey take talk am grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 8:59am On May 15, 2020
randomperson:


[s] The only difference between Messi and Ronaldo's international careers is that Eder scored for Portugal... Ronaldo just like Messi has zero goals and assists in all his finals for Portugal.

When you cannot counter an argument, you resort to shouting 'shalaye' ...

Bring facts, No. Bring stats, No! Bring logic, No!

Just shouting shalaye like a robot [/s]
Ronaldo dominated two leagues....fact

Ronaldo won every individual and collective awards in those league....fact

Ronaldo has delivered two trophies for his country....fact

Ronaldo has won every where both country and in every league....fact.

Don't bother replying with more Shalayes about your Camp Nou legend and Argentine flop. Not interested one bit.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 9:01am On May 15, 2020
Swissh:

I tire for that Madrid guy. Maybe he dropped out of school at jss1.
cheesy cheesy Werey
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by randomperson: 9:03am On May 15, 2020
Melvyn11:

First of all you claimed people that matter jornalist,coaches says Messi is better. I showed you where Barca fans ridicule and insult those same people opinion and call them rubbish now it doesn't affect you. Ok bro

They are barca fans, that's what fans do...

I don't get the point you believe you're making

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hopefulLandlord: 9:03am On May 15, 2020
Ibime:


I watched Ronaldo live at his peak in the 1990s. I did not miss a single match of his 1997/98 season.

Though I considered Ronaldo by far the best player of the 1990s, I can't lie to myself and compare him to Messi. Messi does almost twice what Ronaldo did with less space.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQhpX3g1aJM

Look what he did at 2.12 and look at the ankle shifting tackles thrown at him in that tight space and how he still dribbled everyone and emerged with the ball. also 1.43, 1.46, 2.45, 2.55, 4.24

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 9:04am On May 15, 2020
randomperson:


They are barca fans, that's what fans do...

I don't get the point you believe you're making
Ok then nevermind.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by randomperson: 9:10am On May 15, 2020
Ibime:


I watched Ronaldo live at his peak in the 1990s. I did not miss a single match of his 1997/98 season.

Though I considered Ronaldo by far the best player of the 1990s, I can't lie to myself and compare him to Messi. Messi does almost twice what Ronaldo did with less space.

I think the problem is most people fixate on his goals... They don't look at other areas of his game...

IIf they did, they would understand that for a single player to combine all those aspects of the game seamlessly is nothing short of genius.

Hazard has a cult following here because of his ability to take on players

Augero is an epl legend because of his scoring prowess

De Bruyne is considered one of the best in the world mainly because of his passing ability

Then for one person to combine all that and even do each of them more effectively is otherworldly

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hopefulLandlord: 9:16am On May 15, 2020
randomperson:


I think the problem is most people fixate on his goals... They don't look at other areas of his game...

Ronaldo wasn't just a goalscorer though, he was regarded to be the best dribbler in the world at his prime and one of the best dribblers ever.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Neymar1095(m): 9:17am On May 15, 2020
Melvyn11:

Guy why do you like to much Shalayes. Ronaldo has gone to two leagues and won every individual and collective awards it has to offer. That is the fact and the greatness of Ororo. Unlike a certain Camp nou legend without a spoon for his Nation.

Messi for Argentina has only 4 goals in 21knock out games. With those miserable stats how can Argentina win anything.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 9:23am On May 15, 2020
randomperson:


I think the problem is most people fixate on his goals... They don't look at other areas of his game...

IIf they did, they would understand that for a single player to combine all those aspects of the game seamlessly is nothing short of genius.

Hazard has a cult following here because of his ability to take on players

Augers is an epl legend because of his scoring prowess

De Bruyne is considered one of the best in the world mainly because of his passing ability

Then for one person to combine all that and even do each of them more effectively is otherworldly

Messi that scores as much as Ronaldo does
Messi that has unique passing ability that picks players out anywhere
Messi that dribbles and maintains ball balance on high speed
He even plays freekick so well.

I believe those People claiming Ronaldo Lima is more talented really need to walk us tru what it means to be “talented” as a footballer and what makes a player more talented than the other, because I can see a whole lot of things Messi can do and some other players(like Ronaldo Lima) cannot combine and do.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 9:28am On May 15, 2020
Neymar1095:


Messi for Argentina has only 4 goals in 21knock out games. With those miserable stats how can Argentina win anything.
Poverty stricken stats. When not playing for Barcelona he becomes ordinary. I mean 2 competition back to back with Argentina without scoring a single goal. Damn that's tough.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by randomperson: 9:30am On May 15, 2020
Melvyn11:

Ronaldo dominated two leagues....fact

Ronaldo won every individual and collective awards in those league....fact

Ronaldo has delivered two trophies for his country....fact

Ronaldo has won every where both country and in every league....fact.

Don't bother replying with more Shalayes about your Camp Nou legend and Argentine flop. Not interested one bit.

Fact: Messi has more trophies

Fact: Messi has more individual honors

Fact: Messi has played over 130 games less and has more combined goals and assists

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by randomperson: 9:33am On May 15, 2020
hopefulLandlord:
Ronaldo wasn't just a goalscorer though, he was regarded to be the best dribbler in the world at his prime and one of the best dribblers ever.

You're right.... I totally Stan Ronaldo Delimma and he was the best of his time... But Messi is simply better both as a dribbler and overall

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 9:35am On May 15, 2020
liveLongNprospa:


Omo when Larride explained this.. My eyes became clear

Larride na smart guy with good intentions. Just unfortunate that he has allowed the devil to convert him and refused to give his life to Fenibeso.

I no mind come back home to be Commissioner/Minister when he finally blow become Governor/President.
Na why I dey always give am respectful advice grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 9:38am On May 15, 2020
Melvyn11:

Ronaldo dominated two leagues....fact

Ronaldo won every individual and collective awards in those league....fact

[s]Ronaldo has delivered two trophies for his country....fact[/s]

Ronaldo has won every where both country and in every league....fact.

Don't bother replying with more Shalayes about your Camp Nou legend and Argentine flop. Not interested one bit.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 9:41am On May 15, 2020
[quote author=Greatihex post=89567349][/quote]

Portugal before Ronaldo Era...0 finals and 0 trophy
Portugal now.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 9:47am On May 15, 2020
For the Suarez, Messi and Neymar picking, I will pick Messi and Suarez.


For the players that I have watched, I have never seen a better no. 9 than Suarez. Although, his pick was did not last for long, but for me, after Messi in football, na Suarez.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 9:48am On May 15, 2020
Melvyn11:


Portugal before Ronaldo Era...0 finals and 0 trophy
Portugal now.
Please, you are free to say, "Ronaldo had won 2 trophies with Portugal." Nobody will argue with you.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Swissh: 9:50am On May 15, 2020
Greatihex:
For the Suarez, Messi and Neymar picking, I will pick Messi and Suarez.


For the players that I have watched, I have never seen a better no. 9 than Suarez. Although, his pick was did not last for long, but for me, after Messi in football, na Suarez.
Why is Drogba not a better no 9 than Suarez? How many finals did Suarez score in than Drogba.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Swissh: 9:55am On May 15, 2020
I have no doubt in my mind that put Injury free and prime DeLima Ronaldo in those teams Messi has enjoyed over the years at Barcelona he will score more than Messi/Cristiano ever did. Even Luis Suarez was scoring 59goals at barca, what a luxury for any player to enjoy.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 9:58am On May 15, 2020
This thread can never be dull...not in a thousand years
From football to politics to health to religion
From Van Dijk/terry/Ferdinand/vidic to lamps/schools/Gerrard to Drogba to messi/ororo/R9
cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:07am On May 15, 2020
BlueRayDick:


Messi that scores as much as Ronaldo does
Messi that has unique passing ability that picks players out anywhere
Messi that dribbles and maintains ball balance on high speed
He even plays freekick so well.

I believe those People claiming Ronaldo Lima is more talented really need to walk us tru what it means to be “talented” as a footballer and what makes a player more talented than the other, because I can see a whole lot of things Messi can do and some other players(like Ronaldo Lima) cannot combine and do.

I think DeLima is the better goal scorer while Messi is a better passer of the ball.

Both players are great dribblers but I’ll pick DeLima over Messi here. For one, a good number of times DeLima squares up against like 2,3 or 4 defenders alone with no teammates to distract them. That’s like a suicide mission in those days.

Most of Messi’s dribbles are done with his teammates moving into dangerous positions. This helps distract the opposition. Plus tackles aren’t flying everywhere.

This doesn’t take anything from Messi though. He’s a fantastic dribbler and a superior team player to R9. The other guy is massive as well.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 10:13am On May 15, 2020
Swissh:

Why is Drogba not a better no 9 than Suarez? How many finals did Suarez score in than Drogba.
do I look like raumdeuter that only rate players only when they score in finals?

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