nairavsdollars:
Can this one stand where the Emir of Ilorin is standing or talk when the Emir talks

Yes

He is a king in his own right

Sammy07:


Maybe you should check his history

And where in that shii you posted suggests he is anything less than fulani?
"He holds d title Waziri of Ilorin".
So Yoruba has a title called Waziri?

nextdoor84:


Because the fulanis and Tapa guys in Kwara bear yoruba names don't mean they are yorubas. That's the fulani logic/tactics to confuse the conquered aborigines. They did same in sokoto, gwandu, Katsina...to mention a few.
During my university days had these guys from ilorin with classical yoruba names but they told me openly that they're all fulanis.
Don't get me wrong I am not saying there are no Yoruba aborigenes in Ilorin, yes there are so many of them. But I can bet that if you are not from Ilorin you can't tell the difference between a fulani and a yoruba.

I concur

dokiOloye:

And where in that shii you posted suggests he is anything less than fulani?
"He holds d title Waziri ...." .
So Yoruba has a title called Waziri?

Anyone can be given a title.
Even Buhari has a title in igbo land so

Ayekotoo:


Majority of the people of Kwara are Yorubas, no one is disputing that, but most ilorin people as of today are descendants of fulani jihad.

The current govenor of Kwara is full Yoruba

The previous is Yoruba

Lawal is Yoruba

Only Saraki can claim to have a Fulani lineage amongst all those that have rulled Kwara state.

Fun fact: Do you know the current governor's sister Aisha is married to Lawal the late governor of Kwara state.

Sammy07:


Anyone can be given a title.
Even Buhari has a title in igbo land so

https://www.nairaland.com/311148/saraki-fulani-mali

From the horse's mouth

Sunshineg5:
And leave their ancestoral lands behind?

Do you think Yoruba land pre colonial period was only limited to South west Nigeria?

Below is the picture of Obaro of Kabba, Oba Solomon Awoniyi . Kabba is true to its root

Ayekotoo:


Below is the picture of Obaro of Kabba, Oba Solomon Awoniyi . Kabba is true to its root

Google Oba of Jebba

And tell me if he is not true to his roots

Balogunodua:

Look at this jew wannbe osu dog with no identity, lost cow with no owner come and pursue okun people in opc, odu etc

i no get your time aboki,if dem born you well go afenifere or any yoruba organization go follow dem drag,na koboko dem go use flog your aboki ass back to kogi.

helinues:


That was long ago.. Kwara is now part of NC according to Nigeria constitution.. Go and change that first before fighting for unnecessary land

I have been following your argument since and all I can say is don't argue for argument sake, get your fact cos you know nothing about kwara state and all you have been saying is gibberish.

Out of 16 LGAs in Kwara, about 12 or 13 LGAs are dominated by Yorubas. They are Kwara south( Ifelodun, irepodun, Offa, Oyun, Ekiti, Oke-ero and Isin), kwara Central (Ilorin east, ilorin west, ilorin south and Asa) and some parts kwara north( Moro, kaiama, Patigi and Baruten). Only about 3 LGAs are dominated by Fulani, Baruten and nupe.

So kwara is more of Yoruba than hausa. When it comes to political zoning, you can only say kwara is not just like you will say kogi and Benue belong to north but they are not hausa by tribe. So stop mixing ilorin and kwara together. Ilorin is a place in kwara state.

Sunshineg5:
How many Tapas bear Yoruba names in Kwara state?

Can Gambari even speak fluent Hausa?

How many Ilorin people have 45% Fulani blood in them today?

At the bolded, can Buhari even speak fluent fulfide? No, because they conquered some Hausa lands just like they did to Ilorin.

Sammy07:


How is he a Fulani man??
Maybe you should re read his history.

Even Olusola Saraki isn't from kwara state.
He settle in kwara state for long probably since birth.

Abeq, stop telling me what I know

yes sarakis came from futa Djaloon but they will keep ruling kwara till eternity and there is nothing you guys can do about it..... Like some of your brothers said, kwara is lost and they have moved on, it's better you move on with them, kwara is more core north than even Kano.... It belong to the fulanis

helinues:


Kwara was lost long time ago to Fulani.. That's not what anyone can dispute..

Yes, we moved on and face the remaining SW states.

There are Igbo minorities in SS no dispute about that , but the lands have been lost long time.. It is now called SS..

So which one are you Easterners claiming, the people , the land or both?

Kwara was not lost to Fulani . Kwara is more Yoruba than it is Fulani.
Ilorin specifically was lost to Islam,the Fulani version of Islam which is very different from being lost to Fulani

dokiOloye:


https://www.nairaland.com/311148/saraki-fulani-mali

From the horse's mouth

Ogbeni, anyone can become anything because of politics.

I've lived in kwara state for some years.
Olusola Saraki is confirmed Yoruba.

Which town are you from in kwara, let's start from there

Ayekotoo:


At the bolded, can Buhari even speak fluent fulfide? No, because they conquered some Hausa lands just like they did to Ilorin.

So doesn't Buhari see himself as Hausa Fulani?

rummmy:
yes sarakis came from futa Djaloon but they will keep ruling kwara till eternity and there is nothing you guys can do about it..... Like some of your brothers said, kwara is lost and they have moved on, it's better you move on with them, kwara is more core north than even Kano.... It belong to the fulanis

Arochukwu was lost to Ibibio and Akamkpa do something about THAT

Sammy07:


Ogbeni, anyone can become anything because of politics.

I've lived in kwara state for some years.
Olusola Saraki is confirmed Yoruba.

Which town are you from in kwara, let's start from there

b]Real identity

My mother is from Iseyin in Oyo State, while my father is from Ilorin in Kwara State. My great-great grandfather originated from Mali and I am talking about some 150 to 200 years ago. And they are Fulani and that is where we got our Fulani connection from. My great grandfather settled in Ilorin preaching the religion of Islam. A section of Ilorin came from Gwandu and they were religious, but my people came there as practising Muslims from Mali with their own Quran. In fact, the Emir and I used to joke that we had our own Quran and that nobody gave us Quran. My great-grandfather brought our own Quran to Ilorin from Mali to Agbaji where we settled. The Agbaji quarters is about 200 to 300 years old. Over the years, religious piety and devotion have led the prohibition of drumming (in whatever circumstance) in the area

illicit:


where and when did saraki said he is fulani....

Dr. Olusola Saraki is the father of the current Senate President Bukola Saraki who is seeking to become the country’s president in 2019.

The older Saraki’s claims to Fulani ancestry and Ilorin indigeneship are challenged by disclosures that he is an Egba man from Abeokuta in Ogun State.

In this season of public scrutiny of those seeking to govern the country, our sister publication, TheNEWS magazine dug up from the archive a story written in 2010 over the controversy surrounding Bukola Saraki’s ancestry. The story was written by BAMIDELE JOHNSON.

At a press conference in Abuja in August 2009, Dr. Olusola Saraki told his audience that he is essentially of Malian origin. His great-grandfather, allegedly a Fulani, he said, migrated from the West African nation to settle in Ilorin about 200 years ago.

https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2018/09/20/from-the-archive-controversy-over-bukola-sarakis-ancestry/

Sammy07.

dokiOloye:

https://www.nairaland.com/311148/saraki-fulani-mali
Hope you will rest now

Dr Abubakar plays to the gallery

Balogunodua:

You are saying trash oga

I'm a proud yoruba boy from kogi west and i will never leave my ancestral land for any reason just because some idiots says we are northcentral.

Yorubas from Kogi are true to their ancestry unlike the Ilorin people. Omu-Aran, Erin-Ile, Ajase, offa etc are Yoruba towns in Kwara not Ilorin.

csamii:


Abdulfatah Ahmed is what now? From where again?

Stop lying! Dude is from Share LGA and not ifelodun.

We kwarans here are just laughing at your stupidity and ignorance. Igbos act like they know kwara more than we kwarans.

There is nothing like Share LGA. It's Ifelodun LGA and Share is a town under Ifelodun LGA where Abdulfathia Ahmad came from.

Ojiofor:


Dr. Olusola Saraki is the father of the current Senate President Bukola Saraki who is seeking to become the country’s president in 2019.

The older Saraki’s claims to Fulani ancestry and Ilorin indigeneship are challenged by disclosures that he is an Egba man from Abeokuta in Ogun State.

In this season of public scrutiny of those seeking to govern the country, our sister publication, TheNEWS magazine dug up from the archive a story written in 2010 over the controversy surrounding Bukola Saraki’s ancestry. The story was written by BAMIDELE JOHNSON.

At a press conference in Abuja in August 2009, Dr. Olusola Saraki told his audience that he is essentially of Malian origin. His great-grandfather, allegedly a Fulani, he said, migrated from the West African nation to settle in Ilorin about 200 years ago.

https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2018/09/20/from-the-archive-controversy-over-bukola-sarakis-ancestry/

Sammy07.

I know he's from Ogun state.
It's not my 100th time of being to ilorin. I do ask some. Elders.

He intentionally said he is Fulani because of politics..

It's something I confirmed my self.

2kaybiel:

My question is why do the Fulanis in kwara bear Yoruba names ?

They bear our names to get into our midst(infiltration) by marrying our women and hold on to our lands.

omonnakoda:
Arochukwu was lost to Ibibio pand Akamkpa do something about THAT

Arochukwu is in present day Abia state, South East... A core igbo state...... Akamkpa is in cross river state.....study your map well you no go gree.

dokiOloye:

And where in that shii you posted suggests he is anything less than fulani?
"He holds d title Waziri of Ilorin".
So Yoruba has a title called Waziri?

you have Balogun Fulani and Balogun Gambari chieftancy and compounds within Ilorin, now tell me why should fulani and Gambari have Balogun titles which is Yoruba title for warlords

It means they are Naturalized Yorubas

Sammy07:


The current governor is Abdul Raman Abdul rasak.

Are both names Yorubas??

Yet he is Yoruba

Yoruba by mouth but fulani by his actions and way if life.

Sammy07:


I know he's from Ogun state.
It's not my 100th time of being to ilorin. I do ask some. Elders.

He intentionally said he is Fulani because of politics..

It's something I confirmed my self.

Abeg respect the deadman's wish of being a Fulani.
Che in Nigeria everybody have a right to choose his ethnic group?
Abi na only Igbos in SS such rights are reserved for?
The man said he is Fulani from Mali so let it be as he wished.

Ojiofor:


Dr. Olusola Saraki is the father of the current Senate President Bukola Saraki who is seeking to become the country’s president in 2019.

The older Saraki’s claims to Fulani ancestry and Ilorin indigeneship are challenged by disclosures that he is an Egba man from Abeokuta in Ogun State.

In this season of public scrutiny of those seeking to govern the country, our sister publication, TheNEWS magazine dug up from the archive a story written in 2010 over the controversy surrounding Bukola Saraki’s ancestry. The story was written by BAMIDELE JOHNSON.

At a press conference in Abuja in August 2009, Dr. Olusola Saraki told his audience that he is essentially of Malian origin. His great-grandfather, allegedly a Fulani, he said, migrated from the West African nation to settle in Ilorin about 200 years ago.

https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2018/09/20/from-the-archive-controversy-over-bukola-sarakis-ancestry/

Sammy07.

Wherever his parents came from doesn't change the fact that he himself in particular is Yoruba from Ilorin

illicit:


you have Balogun Fulani and Balogun Gambari chieftancy and compounds within Ilorin, now tell me why should fulani and Gambari have Balogun titles which is Yoruba title for warlords

It means they are Naturalized Yorubas

FROM THE OLDER SARAKI HIMSELF

b]Real identity

My mother is from Iseyin in Oyo State, while my father is from Ilorin in Kwara State. My great-great grandfather originated from Mali and I am talking about some 150 to 200 years ago. And they are Fulani and that is where we got our Fulani connection from. My great grandfather settled in Ilorin preaching the religion of Islam. A section of Ilorin came from Gwandu and they were religious, but my people came there as practising Muslims from Mali with their own Quran. In fact, the Emir and I used to joke that we had our own Quran and that nobody gave us Quran. My great-grandfather brought our own Quran to Ilorin from Mali to Agbaji where we settled. The Agbaji quarters is about 200 to 300 years old. Over the years, religious piety and devotion have led the prohibition of drumming (in whatever circumstance) in the area

Ayekotoo:


Yoruba by mouth but fulani by his actions and way if life.

Do you know the previous governor have christian wife like Saraki himself

Which Fulani can do that?

Ayekotoo:


At the bolded, can Buhari even speak fluent fulfide? No, because they conquered some Hausa lands just like they did to Ilorin.

They did not conquer any Hausa land or Ilorin.

That is a misrepresentation of what happened and a misunderstanding of monarchy.
They did not have those kinds of numbers anywhere.
At any rate those who established a new dynasty were of Fulani origin but were Hausa born and so conquest is not the right terminology to describe what happened.
The current Queen of England belongs to the House of Windsor a Germanic dynasty. That is not characterised as a German conquest

By a similar token Oduduwa did the same thing in Ife so it is worth pausing to reflect on that.

Oduduwa could have come from ANYWHERE

emperorshaokahn:
i no get your time aboki,if dem born you well go afenifere or any yoruba organization go follow dem drag,na koboko dem go use flog your aboki ass back to kogi.

OSU i repeat stop typing trash from you alaigbo cave, so Abdulrakeem Aduramigba representing Kwara and Kogi Yorubas in Afenifere is an Ipob abi Osu like i said come and pursue the Okun people in Agbekoya, YCE, ORA etc.