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Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by Geofavor(m): 12:27pm On May 17, 2020
Explorers, please you are totally off track with these. This is not the US. Even over there where we have saner people, their gun laws are tearing them apart.
I share in your sentiments, but the truth is it will do way more harm than good.
This same guys who went on a robbery without guns will now have access to guns. Those who have obtained guns legally will monetize it by lending it to robbers such as these. We are in Nigeria.
Domestic violence will no longer be with fists. Couples will shoot each other dead at the slightest provocation. We are in Nigeria. There is frustration in the land.

Please, the government shouldn't try this.

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Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by Explorers(m): 12:34pm On May 17, 2020
Exmilitant:
Here in PH City we don't need no licence from government to own kala... Wait till you see ma armoury... But whether you have all the guns in the world, you can still be robbed, kidnapped, raped or assassinated. 'the unexpected beats even the man of valour'.

You don't get the message bro, even politicians get attacked/kidnapped, Banks get robbed with their security.

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Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by Explorers(m): 12:36pm On May 17, 2020
MJBOLT:
all these you listed dont even work in america,what makes you think it will work in a country like nigeria?


I think is because we don't want to make it work.

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Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by amalder: 12:36pm On May 17, 2020
do you mean licences to kill?
Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by MJBOLT: 12:42pm On May 17, 2020
we have too many problems in this country,let's not add gun violence to it.

Explorers:


I think is because we don't want to make it work.

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Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by Nobody: 12:49pm On May 17, 2020
I'm not in support of this idea. We all know how Nigerians have the habbit of abusing certain privileges. And then the issue of carelessness where you mistakenly keep it within childrens reach and they'll want to test it out like they see in movies.

Its should not be allowed. Biko.

I would rather a taser device. At least it requires some guides to using it which only adults can master making it a lot less risky. plus its not that deadly if used accurately and moderately.

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Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by Octopusssy(f): 1:21pm On May 17, 2020
Explorers:
Incredible footage showing the moment a Georgia woman rushed out of her bed in the middle of the night and opened fire at three armed men who broke into her house, killing one.

The surveillance footage, released by the Gwinnett County Police Department, shows the intruders all of whom are carrying guns bursting through the front door.
This woman has been watching too many Hollywood movies
Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by Octopusssy(f): 1:21pm On May 17, 2020
Eulalia:
I'm not in support of this idea. We all know how Nigerians have the habbit of abusing certain privileges. And then the issue of carelessness where you mistakenly keep it within childrens reach and they'll want to test it out like they see in movies.

Its should not be allowed. Biko.

I would rather a taser device. At least it requires some guides to using it which only adults can master making it a lot less risky. plus its not that deadly if used accurately and moderately.
Even a taser is potentially deadly if used wrongly
Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by Explorers(m): 1:27pm On May 17, 2020
Eulalia:
I'm not in support of this idea. We all know how Nigerians have the habbit of abusing certain privileges. And then the issue of carelessness where you mistakenly keep it within childrens reach and they'll want to test it out like they see in movies.



I would rather a taser device

You can only attack one robber with taser at a time, what happens if you have 3-5men robbers?

Check my 3rd post, last point. Parents must have portable safe like those below. Even some handguns come with smaller safe like these. Password/codes will be with Dad/mum.

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Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by Explorers(m): 1:31pm On May 17, 2020
Octopusssy:

This woman has been watching too many Hollywood movies

Husband is a military man according to the report, men in like that in military, state train their wives, kids to shoot.

There're tens of gunstores and shooting range in every us city.

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Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by Nobody: 1:38pm On May 17, 2020
Explorers:


You can only attack one robber with taser at a time, what happens if you have 3-5men robbers? AT LEAST BY THE TIME ONE FALLS TO THE GROUND THE OTHERS WILL TAKE OFF. AND YOU CAN STILL HIT ONE OR TWO MORE BEFORE THEY ALL VANISH OUT OF SIGHT.




Check my 3rd post, last point. Parents must have portable safe like those below. Even some handguns come with smaller safe like these. Password/codes will be with Dad/mum.



@The bolded, what about carelessly forgetting to to put it back into the safe? And you know children are a curious lot. Its not safe anyways.
Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by Nobody: 1:42pm On May 17, 2020
Octopusssy:

Even a taser is potentially deadly if used wrongly

Yeah. which was why I said if used moderately. But the children wont even know how to operate the device as it requires some mastery to operate.

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Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by Explorers(m): 1:44pm On May 17, 2020
Geofavor:
Explorers, please you are totally off track with these. This is not the US. Even over there where we have saner people, their gun laws are tearing them apart.
I share in your sentiments, but the truth is it will do way more harm than good.
This same guys who went on a robbery without guns will now have access to guns. Those who have obtained guns legally will monetize it by lending it to robbers such as these. We are in Nigeria.
Domestic violence will no longer be with feasts. Couples will shoot each other dead at the slightest provocation. We are in Nigeria. There is frustration in the land.

Please, the government shouldn't try this.


You're very correct with some of the above points.

Most of these guys are homeless, no parent, no NOK, no jobs, and like that.

In my post, i stated that evidence that buyer is gainfully employed or documents detailing the legal business of buyer, police report, international passport, Nin, drivers license, everything will be linked together at point of purchase. BVN, NIN are always carrying our details, we're not just ready and is intentional.

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Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by Explorers(m): 1:54pm On May 17, 2020
Eulalia:
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@The bolded, what about carelessly forgetting to to put it back into the safe? And you know children are a curious lot. Its not safe anyways.

You're right that the idea has cons, but the taser ehn.

Robbers will take off only when they know that the taser will take their lives.

How are you going to use taser on 5men holding long matchete like the ones in the video
Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by Explorers(m): 1:56pm On May 17, 2020
Eulalia:


Yeah. which was why I said if used moderately. But the children wont even know how to operate the device as it requires some mastery to operate.

Guns too have safety pin, before putting guns in the safe, you unload, remove magazine and empty the barrel.

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Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by Nobody: 2:24pm On May 17, 2020
Cuddlebugie:
Well, the UN says over 70% of illegal firearms in West Africa are in Nigeria....

Firearm acquisition is such an onerous task, yet, bandits/criminals brandish sophisticated firearms with which they maim and kill citizens.
They even pose for pictures with weapons with a governor and "security" officials stupidly grinning and smiling by their sides. If you still have hope in Nigeria you need to check yourself.
Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by Nobody: 2:29pm On May 17, 2020
Weedsmoker:
sad

There are so many important issues to us as a nation other making laws for citizens to own guns.
Over their in the USA the second amendment requiring citizens to own sophisticated weapons is still even under debate,some Democrats even want the act repealed due to cases of frequent mass shootings.
They can debate that because they have a functional security in place. If the Nigeria Police Farce is capable of 10% of what police depts in the US are capable of no one would be clamouring for gun legislation.

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Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by Hotspotbro(m): 2:47pm On May 17, 2020
Weapons Nigerians own now
Machete
Spear
Dagger
Knife
Pestle
Bow and arrows(i made one for hunting)
Charms
Bottle

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Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by Explorers(m): 3:01pm On May 17, 2020
HedwigesMaduro:

They can debate that because they have a functional security in place. If the Nigeria Police Farce is capable of 10% of what police depts in the US are capable of no one would be clamouring for gun legislation.

Even a soldier will lay down his arms when there's peace, what do we need guns for if our safety and that of our families are guaranteed.

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Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by henryobinna(m): 3:15pm On May 17, 2020
Explorers:
From here:

https://www.nairaland.com/5863062/armed-robbers-invade-home-abuja


I saw this scary video on twitter yesterday evening and i couldn't sleep all night. Even though my family is all i have.

What would have happened to the family/occupants of that building if those animals were able to breakdown that strong front door(robbed, raped, murdered)

Imagine there're toddlers/kids, teenagers(girls), pregnant woman, person(s) with HPB, just imagine you're behind that door watching the CCTV, unarmed with something or nothing to give as they were scaling the fence with their long matchete

No 911 to dial.....

They cannot go to our leaders homes because they know they're well guarded/protected.

What about us? They don't care, but we voted them into power/office.

So sad that masses are always the victim of attacks like these(not only robbery) because they know we're not armed and there's no way we can fight back or defend ourselves and families.

They are also aware that rescue/police won't respond in 30mins - 1hr.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNZVAUeD0ZI
from my exchange with you weeks ago I thought you were anti-gun, now you've seen the essence. Even the 911 won't come immediately, in the US it takes an average of 15 minutes, note that this is average some cities take much longer, 5 seconds is enough for a criminal to inflict bodily harm on an unarmed person not to talk of 15 minutes and that is in a country where things are a lot better than here.


I'm glad you're seeing things from this point of view, I hope the government consider their fellow countrymen and use their heads for ones. Guns for security and self defense at home are a necessity

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Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by henryobinna(m): 3:18pm On May 17, 2020
Explorers:
Incredible footage showing the moment a Georgia woman rushed out of her bed in the middle of the night and opened fire at three armed men who broke into her house, killing one.

The surveillance footage, released by the Gwinnett County Police Department, shows the intruders all of whom are carrying guns bursting through the front door.
This woman her name should be called 'branches'
Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by henryobinna(m): 3:18pm On May 17, 2020
Zuluhead:
you can have a pump action or double barrel lincense gun.
not anymore sir.

When Buhari came he withdrew that

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Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by henryobinna(m): 3:19pm On May 17, 2020
Cuddlebugie:
Well, the UN says over 70% of illegal firearms in West Africa are in Nigeria....

Firearm acquisition is such an onerous task, yet, bandits/criminals brandish sophisticated firearms with which they maim and kill citizens.
isn't it ironic?
Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by henryobinna(m): 3:23pm On May 17, 2020
Weedsmoker:
sad

There are so many important issues to us as a nation other making laws for citizens to own guns.
Over their in the USA the second amendment requiring citizens to own sophisticated weapons is still even under debate,some Democrats even want the act repealed due to cases of frequent mass shootings.
bro it's not an act it's a law in their constitution, they can't repeal that, it's so hard that what they want to do is limit the kind of gun you can own.
Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by henryobinna(m): 3:26pm On May 17, 2020
GodPunishBiafra:

And one night, thieves or politicians thugs will robb the store and pack all the guns...
rob a gun store? grin grin grin
Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by henryobinna(m): 3:30pm On May 17, 2020
Exmilitant:
Here in PH City we don't need no licence from government to own kala... Wait till you see ma armoury... But whether you have all the guns in the world, you can still be robbed, kidnapped, raped or assassinated. 'the unexpected beats even the man of valour'.
what you're saying is not absolutely true unless of course you're a criminal, that's why you think when someone is armed they can still be victims of all those criminal acts you mentioned.

Of course it is possible, but you can't compare the ease a criminal will have to rob, kidnap and rape an armed citizen compare to an unarmed one.

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Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by henryobinna(m): 3:32pm On May 17, 2020
Eulalia:
I'm not in support of this idea. We all know how Nigerians have the habbit of abusing certain privileges. And then the issue of carelessness where you mistakenly keep it within childrens reach and they'll want to test it out like they see in movies.

Its should not be allowed. Biko.

I would rather a taser device. At least it requires some guides to using it which only adults can master making it a lot less risky. plus its not that deadly if used accurately and moderately.

there are gun safes everywhere

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Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by Explorers(m): 3:34pm On May 17, 2020
henryobinna:


Police response depends on the area. Beverly Hills, CaliI has less than a minute. Newyork Time Square to is fast.


Guns:

I never said they should take away guns totally from Americans, people should have the right to defend/protect themselves and their families. But you don't defend yourself using machine guns.

Canada Prime Minister said, 'you dont need AR-15 to hunt a deer.'

So i said heavy weapons, military grade should be banned.

A college student having Tactical AR-15 with over 500 rounds, magazines in his possession.

For what

That's madness.

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Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by Nobody: 3:37pm On May 17, 2020
henryobinna:


there are gun safes everywhere

How about forgetfulness? Carelessness?
Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by Thomthom(m): 4:08pm On May 17, 2020
If some person go hungry them go enter road with the gun
Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by henryobinna(m): 4:17pm On May 17, 2020
Explorers:


Police response depends on the area. Beverly Hills, CaliI has less than a minute. Newyork Time Square to is fast.


Guns:

I never said they should take away guns totally from Americans, people should have the right to defend/protect themselves and their families. But you don't defend yourself using machine guns.

Canada Prime Minister said, 'you dont need AR-15 to hunt a deer.'

So i said heavy weapons, military grade should be banned.

A college student having Tactical AR-15 with over 500 rounds, magazines in his possession.

For what

That's madness.
I understand the fear anti-gunners have especially when AR-15 is mentioned grin grin grin grin grin

We've had similar conversation before so I wouldn't go further on this sha.

And those guns are not machine guns sir.


Also, I hate it when someone is talking about gun arguments and they start mentioning politicians especially their views. It's so annoying because to me it appears you fail to see that all politicians want is power and more power nothing more than that, taking away your arms tilts more power to them.

Before Venezuela degenerated into the mess it is today, the first thing the socialists did was to take away their guns. Before Hitler and his gang of mad men started all their madness, they first of all took away their guns. There's always a pattern to gun control and at the end all it leads to is absolute power in the hands of politicians and all the absolute power does is having citizens being treated lower than animals.

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Re: Why Can't Nigeria Government Allow Citizens To Posses Guns At Home For Defence? by armadeo(m): 4:47pm On May 17, 2020
For the sake of sane citizens in the country I wholly reject the idea.


If everyone has guns, the killings will increase exponentially within 1 month of approval.


Wives will shoot husbands..

Creditors will shoot debtors.

Traffic jams will cause killings.

Employees will shoot thier bosses

So many issues will come up and bang bang will be the answer in the short term and devil blames post gunshot.

We dont need guns roaming around the society.

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