helinues:


Direct access to the Sea..

Then Edo, Kogi must be so dumb state that with their closest to River Nigeria they are not making use of it.

maestroferddi:
Rephrase the comment to read " I wish only the Yorubas had access to the sea...

superlightning:


You are irredeemably pathetic. Go to your Yoruba enclave and leave Igbo people alone.

MetaPhysical:


Hahahahahaha...

The colonialists in partnership with Lagos signed a treaty in 1861....and it was done aboard a ship.

So if there were no ports or wharves, where did Beecroft and Bruce put their ship in 1861 when they invited Dosunmu aboard to sign treaty of Lagos?

post=89667880:

Both of you are dumb show me Port solely developed by Yoruba people

Gabkosh:
Show me the coast in igboland na. I have been waiting for you to answer for long.

joeyfire:


Yorubas are obsessed with being the only ones with access to the sea. See them fighting tooth and nail on NL and on this thread . In the old western region they were frustrating the development of the Koko Port in Warri and it was one of the things that made Benin/Delta ppl vote to leave and form the Midwest region

What first made Yorubas hate GEJ was his plan to decongest Lagos by opening up other ports

NGpatriot:
While the SW and the SS are enjoying seaports and even constructing many more, this is all the SE can do, they are relegated to 1 village riverport with a small warehouse and 2 forklifts, that's all.


Atlantic ko, Indian ocean ni..

Gabkosh:
May I remind you this is a bona-fide Yoruba forum. Why not go to your useless nairaland wannabe biafrasay with your useless news. Will you see us there. Carry your useless igbo matter to biafra say and don't bring it to Yoruba forum.

Gabkosh:
Leaving is not my issue here. Many countries are living without yet landlocked. All I am saying is that your brothers are just circumambulating on nothing. Accept, igboland is landlocked because no coastline in igboland. But that does not mean they have no access to sea through navigation. They must pass through another sovereign nation before they can see any sea or ocean.

Just like Mali and Niger.


Having access to sea does not mean you are not landlocked. This is simple education.

And what do you mean they won't remain the same. Everyone will for their separate ways.

Yorubas will go
Igbos will go
Niger delta will go.

But you igbos will have to pass through Niger delta before you can get to the sea.

DMerciful:
You assume they cannot negotiate with any of the igboid groups in South South. What makes you think any of the igboid group with access to the sea will prefer to go with Ijaws? Or you think Niger Delta is one tribe?

helinues:


You are still dodging my question.

How can SE have access to the Sea/Ocean without crossing Nigeria border?

You as an Easterner, if you are traveling by land to Benin republic, you must pass through SW same as SWesterners traveling to North must pass through SS states.

SE is landlocked .. Simple as ABC

XANDERBOY85:


Your question is daft!

Setting aside int'l laws that govern nations access to the sea, isn't it quite presumptious of you to imply Nigeria as is will remain intact in the event of Igbos leaving?

And even if we go along with your laughable presumption, what makes you think the political-economy dynamics in place since 1966 (that's seen the Fulani at the top of the tree, and ably assisted by one or two southern Igbo hating ethnic grps) will continue whereby they will twist the arms of the Efik/Ibibio/Annang to go along with their devilish plan to try and cripple the newly emergent Igbo nation for no other reason other than hate and wickedness!?

On threads like this, it's a guarantee there are certain bigoted, Igbo hating monikers that will show face to try and sell the narrative that Igboland is 'landlocked', and yours is one of them! What drives your unhealthy interest in seeing Igboland landlocked?

post=89671809:

Dumb where do they stipulate that you most have coastline before you have access to the sea, Do Australian have coastline line before they can access the black Sea, still their Port of Vienna attract more cargo traffic than Apapa port, you guys should be grateful to Igbos and other tribes, utilizing ports and airports in Lagos, let for Yoruba tribe those ports will be ghost complex, go to typical Yoruba states airports and see how poorly they are doing. I can wait to see this nation divide.

post=89639809:

So you believe if Igbos leave Southsouth will remain in Nigeria even your tribe?

Tissaia:
It’s A Lie: Igboland Is Not Landlocked By Aloy Ejimakor
Ndigbo are undoubtedly an indigenous people presently lying within Nigeria. So, international law will surely come into play if a conflict arises out of Nigeria’s persistent institutional resistance to granting a seaport to Igboland.

BY ALOY EJIMAKORMAY 17, 2020

It’s often said that a lie told so many times, if unchallenged, may - in course of time - begin to pass for the truth. One of such is the terrible lie, institutionally purveyed since the end of the Civil War, to the effect that Igboland is landlocked or that it has no access to the sea. The purpose of this essay, therefore, is to debunk that lie with some simple historical and topographical evidence that are even in plain view, if you care to dig or do some physical exploration of your own.


Suffice it to say that it is a profound tragedy that entire generations of the immediate post-War Igbos never bordered to check but seemingly accepted this brazen institutional falsehood, largely intended to taunt the Igbo and put them down. A few that knew it to be false just didn’t care anymore. That History was banned since the end of the Civil War made it worse, plus the fact that most people don’t take physical Geography that serious anymore, otherwise they would have known that Abia, Imo and Anambra States have varying short-distance paths to the Atlantic Ocean through Imo, Azumiri and Niger Rivers. It’s not really rocket science, as you can easily confirm this if you know how to read Google Earth; or conquer your fear of swamp snakes and walk through these areas on foot.

There are also many other hardly explored waterways and slithering tributaries, including the remote reaches of Oguta Lake and Oseakwa River in Ihiala (Imo State) that meandered through Igbo-delta wetlands to the Southeastern ends of the Atlantic waterfront. These rivers have varying lengths of short navigational paths to the Atlantic, and in some cases, are far shorter nautically (and even on footpath) than the Portharcourt, Calabar and Ibaka seaports are to their side of the Atlantic.

Many of these pathways, including particularly the ones from the outer reaches of Imo and Azumiri Rivers terminate at the Atlantic at no more than 15 to 30 Nautical miles to the beachhead. To put it in lay language, one nautical mile equals 1.8 kilometers. Thus, the contiguity of Southeast (not even the greater Igboland) to the Atlantic is less nautical miles than the Atlantic is to the seaports in Calabar, Onne, Ibaka, Lagos and Portharcourt. If you discount the territories excised from Igboland during State creations and the damnable boundary adjustments, it will be far less.

To be sure, Ikwerre land or Igweocha which bears the greater portions of the Portharcourt seaport was dredged up to 50 miles to the Atlantic front through the Bonny River. Onne seaport was dredged up to 60 Miles to the Atlantic and Calabar seaport was dredged 45 nautical miles to the Atlantic. Ibaka seaport is about 30 nautical miles to the Atlantic and the Lagos seaports dredged up to about 50 nautical miles to the Atlantic.

Compare all these to Obuaku in Abia State, which is only 25 nautical miles to the Atlantic from the confluence of Imo and Azumiri River which itself separately lies not more than 30 nautical miles to the Atlantic beachfront. The less obvious one is the little-known Oseakwa River in Ihiala (Imo State) which is mere 18 nauticals to the Atlantic, all with its 65 feet of natural depth, unarguably comparable to no other River in Nigeria.

Additionally, what is geopolitically known as Igboland today is far smaller than what it was and legally supposed to be. As far back as 1856, Baikie - one of the earliest and credible Geographers of ancient Nigeria, had this to say - “Igbo homeland, extends east and west, from the Old Kalabar river to the banks of the Kwora, Niger River, and possesses also some territory at Aboh, an Igbo clan, to the west-ward of the latter stream. On the north it borders on Igara, Igala and A'kpoto, and it is separated from the sea only by petty tribes, all of which trace their origin to this great race" (Baikie, William Balfour, published with a sanction of Her Majesty's Government in 1856).

But with that infamous post-War abandoned property policy and the egregious institutional injustices in boundary adjustments and the widespread anti-Igbo gerrymandering, Igbos physically and psychologically lost their vested ancestral lands, all to the point of not caring anymore about their historical contiguity to the Atlantic, which their ancestors beheld and called the ‘Great Sea’. The psychological beat-down got so bad that some of the descendants of these Igbo ancestors (nearest to the Atlantic and now lying outside Southeast) are no longer sure whether they are Igbo or not.

The worst injustice was In 1976 when the Justice Nasir Boundary Adjustment Commission made a serious and targeted agenda of carving out core Igboland territories into some neighboring States of the South-South. But they didn’t quite make an absolute success of it. They missed the southernmost Southeast lands that possess Rivers that meandered through slices of Igbo-friendly South-South territories and ended up at the Atlantic, thus unwittingly placing Igboland and its right of access to the sea under the canons of customary international law.

As it stands, international law of the sea guarantees Igboland (whether it remains Nigerian territory or not) unhindered access to the nearest sea (in this case: the Atlantic) peacefully by the many short-distance rivers, waterways and tributaries that originated from Igboland but ultimately washed into the Atlantic through contiguous South-South territories. For avoidance of doubt, there’s particularly the Obuaku confluence in Ukwa West (Abia State) that flows through Ikot Abasi in Akwa Ibom State before expanding out and washing into the near-reaches of the Atlantic. And the River Niger which ultimately joined the Atlantic through a vast network of hardly explored creeks and mangrove swamps that abut the Bight of Bonny in the South-South.

Nigeria is subject to the International Law of the Sea and is therefore bound to abide by its provisions, should the need arise in a scenario of persistent sovereign oppression of an identifiable indigenous group. The others are the United Nations Treaty of the Sea and the African Union Treaties and Conventions on the Sea, including particularly the African Charter on Human and People’s Rights, which Nigeria ratified and domesticated in 1983. The pertinent provisions are mostly embedded in the copious provisions relating to the collective economic and commercial rights of indigenous peoples lying within the Treaty nations. Ndigbo are undoubtedly an indigenous people presently lying within Nigeria. So, international law will surely come into play if a conflict arises out of Nigeria’s persistent institutional resistance to granting a seaport to Igboland.

Aloy Ejimakor is a Legal Practitioner.

http://saharareporters.com/2020/05/17/it%E2%80%99s-lie-igboland-not-landlocked-aloy-ejimakor
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joeyfire:


Yorubas are obsessed with being the only ones with access to the sea. See them fighting tooth and nail on NL and on this thread . In the old western region they were frustrating the development of the Koko Port in Warri and it was one of the things that made Benin/Delta ppl vote to leave and form the Midwest region

What first made Yorubas hate GEJ was his plan to decongest Lagos by opening up other ports

NGpatriot:
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lol....Typical ipob, we are talking about real bridge, the best and the most sophisticated bridge in west Africa and this ipob rant to his village to take picture of a village gather bridge in the middle of nowhere...

Landlocked villagers..

What's wrong with these Igbos sef..?

post=89668254:

You guys should be greatful to Igbos and minority in South, Yoruba land would've been like their neighbors, the way others are buying Gas to power their countries that's how you guys will be paying through your noses to buy gas
Take a look at Togo, Benin that's how Yoruba land will be

MetaPhysical:


Let me tell you that there was never a place called Enugu before Britain arrived. Never! The discovery of coal is what made Britain create Enugu. It was built as a mining town.

They needed to get the coal to Liverpool and Manchester, the hub of their steam and steel industries. So they needed a port in East. This is why they built a port in PortHarcourt and a rail line to Enugu from there to get coal from mines to the ships and sail to England.


See attach, this is from a Parliamentary Paper in London. They acknowledged the exiled King had a private "port" in Palma. When he returned from exile the colonial government took it over.

Who built that port? Was Kosoko an Iboman....a developer

post=89667816:

Non of the ports was constructed by Lagos state or Yoruba people

Akponmfet:
Nonsense, if you think you are not landlocked why don't you go?
After all nobody will miss you.
Noise noise and more noise. Lol.

superlightning:


This is not a Yoruba forum Aproko.....if it were no igbo would be here....Aren't you even irritated by yourself? Don't you have shame?

post=89671860:

They live on others, they are worst tribe to associate with.

post=89671809:

Dumb where do they stipulate that you most have coastline before you have access to the sea, Do Australian have coastline line before they can access the black Sea, still their Port of Vienna attract more cargo traffic than Apapa port, you guys should be grateful to Igbos and other tribes, utilizing ports and airports in Lagos, let for Yoruba tribe those ports will be ghost complex, go to typical Yoruba states airports and see how poorly they are doing. I can wait to see this nation divide.

Gabkosh:
Shut up. The forum was created, owned by bona-fide Yoruba son. Go to your biafrasay nairaland wannabe. You should be ashamed of yourself that you tried hard to imitate nairaland but not working.

This is a forum created by Yoruba son. Get that into your smelly akpu and tasteless nsala skull.

Gabkosh:
This man no get iota of shame. Show me any coast in igboland, he's writing epistle about Vienna in far away Europe Kikikiki. It is a curse to be igbo hehehehe.
I am not even talking of you having access to sea. Kogi has access to Sea, Mali and Niger republic have access to sea via Niger River. But leave that epistle for another topic.

Baba, I have heard your epistle. You have access to sea via Niger River just like kogi, Mali and Niger. But try and be proud enough to show us here and coastline in igboland. I am not ready to read about any epistle from Asian nation

post=89671809:

Dumb where do they stipulate that you most have coastline before you have access to the sea, Do Australian have coastline line before they can access the black Sea, still their Port of Vienna attract more cargo traffic than Apapa port, you guys should be grateful to Igbos and other tribes, utilizing ports and airports in Lagos, let for Yoruba tribe those ports will be ghost complex, go to typical Yoruba states airports and see how poorly they are doing. I can wait to see this nation divide.

Aladegba:
Igbo presidency, Igbo apologies after civil war, Igbo conspiracy, etc. One fact remains...the entire igboland is landlocked. What is the difference between Lesotho and south eastern Nigerian. If Igbo wanna be free, they must negotiate their freedom with the Niger Deltans which will end up at the doorstep of the yorubas and denied!!! What is the essence of freedom if it can never be achieved?

Gabkosh:
This man no get iota of shame. Show me any coast in igboland, he's writing epistle about Vienna in far away Europe Kikikiki. It is a curse to be igbo hehehehe.
I am not even talking of you having access to sea. Kogi has access to Sea, Mali and Niger republic have access to sea via Niger River. But leave that epistle for another topic.

Baba, I have heard your epistle. You have access to sea via Niger River just like kogi, Mali and Niger. But try and be proud enough to show us here and coastline in igboland. I am not ready to read about any epistle from Asian nation