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Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by U1(m): 2:28pm On May 18, 2020 |
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Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by U1(m): 2:40pm On May 18, 2020 |
Jetjacky: The answer to the bold is "No," and sadly so. While I won't describe myself anywhere near the best in writing, I believe I should be earning way more. It's the realisation that it doesn't seem like I can get more that's part of why I noted that I have been trying to cut writing time. I rarely bid these days - I have not used up the free Connects Upwork gave me almost a year ago. The non-native discrimination is real, even though I believe I write better than some natives ![]() Strange thing is that non-natives are often able to earn more without complaints when they choose to fake their country. But I don't think I will ever go down that road or I would have long done so. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by Jetjacky(m): 2:59pm On May 18, 2020 |
U1: You are right about earning more with no complaints by faking current region. I wonder how this can be solved. You mentioned cutting time writing. What do you mean? You no longer write? Some on this thread have put up the idea that you can actually make good cash (eg, $30/hour) using your Nigerian location. It all depends on being able to convince the client with your proposal and profile. What do you think? |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by Olawrites: 6:49pm On May 18, 2020 |
Whether Nigeria profile or not, what will be will be. I have 5 friends hitting it with naija flag right there on Upwork. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by U1(m): 7:44pm On May 18, 2020 |
Jetjacky: I meant I have actively been trying to reduce my involvement in writing - for the stated reasons. I don't think I have submitted a proposal in like 2-3 months. I am not sure it's just about your ability to convince. I think it also depends on what type of writing you do. I don't do copywriting, ad copy, and academic writing, for instance. It's possible you might earn more if you do any of those, coupled with your ability "to convince." |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by Jetjacky(m): 9:13pm On May 18, 2020 |
U1:I do copywriting. Maybe you should up your skills if you love writing or find something more paying and less typing away like data analyst, SEO specialist, etc? Udemy could equip you with what you need. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by Jetjacky(m): 9:16pm On May 18, 2020 |
Olawrites: I know this moniker from years ago, I believe. ![]() That's cool. Wish I could also have a conversation with one of em. That will be awesome. Thanks. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by VictorBode(m): 12:09am On May 19, 2020 |
Jetjacky: Nigeria location is good. Also your description needs a bit more work. Checked out your profile. First off, change your profile picture. Won't say more because I charge for profile reviews. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by Jetjacky(m): 1:08am On May 19, 2020 |
VictorBode: Thanks bro. Is there a guarantee I will get my first few gigs if you review my profile then? What's the cost? |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by Comanche(f): 6:47am On May 19, 2020 |
Jetjacky: Sure, your nationality as a Nigerian might be an issue at first as a new freelancer, but I believe once you can show clients you are good at what you do, then you'd get great paying jobs. When I started out on Upwork, it was tough. But I kept researching on different ways to be better in terms of my proposals and In terms of my writing. 30 USD for 1000 words isnt something unattainable as a Nigerian. You know what's worse than being a Nigerian on Upwork? It is being one and wearing an hijab. So I could potentially be discriminated on 2 counts: being black and being a Muslim. But here I am an ordinary article writer still securing 1000 words for 200 to 300 USD. So don't give up! 5 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by Crbc: 7:24am On May 19, 2020 |
This sums it all up for you..... ![]() The discrimination is real, but if you know your drill ; getting jobs wouldn't be an issue. News flash....... I've earned 40,000 USD(not naira), since early 2018..... And yes, as a Nigerian... Thank you. 1 Like
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Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by OluwabuqqyYOLO(m): 9:48am On May 19, 2020 |
Crbc:Are you willing to help, please? |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by naijacutee(f): 9:54am On May 19, 2020 |
G12: Please I have not vouched for anyone as I have not worked with anyone directly. I only probably pointed you in the direction of someone based on the information he shared on the post. But what issues are you having with Upwork, and what issues are you having with this person? There are lots of people on this thread who could solve your problems. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by naijacutee(f): 10:07am On May 19, 2020 |
Comanche: Can I just say well done for for far you've come? It's not easy but it is attainable. I think sometimes our tendency to give up too soon and chase "fast money" instead of sticking to one path can be our undoing. I'm embarrased to admit that I'm about to turn down a job because they are offering $0.04 per word instead of the $0.10 I'm asking for. It has only taking consistency and a willingness to let go of what I think I know, and learn new things.
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Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by Jetjacky(m): 11:02am On May 19, 2020 |
Comanche: Wow wow! This is terrific! Sure it is a Nigerian flagged account? ![]() ![]() |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by VictorBode(m): 11:15am On May 19, 2020 |
Crbc: All these descriptions is pointless. The reason they say this because of their poor experiences with Nigerians. I once applies for a job that had a similar description: "No Nigerians allowed" But guess what? The guy hired me out of others. On upwork, finding a QUALITY freelancer is bigger issue than landing a job. Most times when clients come to upwork, they're only HOPING for something good. They dont have high expectations but if you can show them you're good then they'll hire you. As you can see from the screenshot, the reason why the client added that is because of poor grammar or writing ability and not necessarily because Nigerians are scammers. If you can address his objection and show him/her that you deliver quality work, the least he can do is grant you an interview just in case. 2019 my friend earned $24,000. I personally earned about $15K. As a Nigerian... - Your profile must be legit and enticing. - Make sure proposals are thoughtful and well written. - Your portfolio should be your most quality samples. Etc 5 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by Jetjacky(m): 11:15am On May 19, 2020 |
Crbc: Thanks guys: Comanche, Crbc, naijacutee and the rest for giving me the information I seek. Hopefully, this thread will help others too who are contemplating on what path to follow. ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by tensazangetsu20(m): 11:16am On May 19, 2020 |
Op no one cares about your country on Upwork. I joined Upwork in January and I got my first job four days after. Before this pandemic started, I was bidding for a job with a Spanish startup. I wrote some tests involving digital marketing which I passed and then did some interviews over Skype but the job was cancelled. At that moment, I also had other jobs I was bidding for but due to the pandemic they all stopped. The digital marketing niche isn't as hot as it was in January when I joined. Many companies are really struggling and aren't spending as much on marketing. I have taken a break from it and I am presently learning to code. Would get back to it by the end of this year. Upwork works very well. The key is to apply to a lot of Jobs. Write your proposals well. Tell the clients how you can solve their problems and the value you can provide to them. Don't start listing your accomplishments. No one cares. Also use the advanced search feature a lot of jobs are hidden there. Once I am really comfortable with my coding skills I am going back to Upwork. The kind of programming jobs I see continuously trumps everything else. 5 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by Jetjacky(m): 11:23am On May 19, 2020 |
VictorBode:I'm glad you decided to contribute to this thread. If this is remedied, then I am sure, I can help lots of other people too to change the narrative following the right channels. |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by VictorBode(m): 11:26am On May 19, 2020 |
Jetjacky: Yes... Landing a gig on fiverr is way easier than upwork. Plus there's a guide I'll give you from a guy that has made $1,000,000 on fiverr I got the book when I saw one of his most successful student make $1000 in 4 months. My friend made N1,000,000 as well. You wont make millions of naira as you start o.. But $100 - $200 is very possible on fiverr. If you put in more work, it can be $400 - $500. To your question. It's N10k for a review plus the book I talked about. If you dont find it valuable, I'll refund you. Anyways, as a copywriter you shouldn't spend all your time on freelance sites. Just use it to gain experience, update your portfolio and make some money for like 5 months then reduce the time you spend there. There are companies that pay $2000, $ 5000 for just a single write up. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by Jetjacky(m): 11:33am On May 19, 2020 |
tensazangetsu20: Yea, it is good to up your skills. About no one caring that isn't really true. When running a Nigerian account, I have had some of my proposals declined for not meeting the client's criteria which happens to be location centered. But I have seen lots of clients, so I know there is also truth in your claim. Normally, I send out three proposals a day, and when I am in a roll, two out of the three gets a response. When not, one or none clicks. However, when running a Nigerian account I had to send about 4 to 6 and sometimes one to two click. One of them was a very good one sha from a Singapore firm clicked with an acemome experience. I have experimented from both sides just to be sure. But like I said, the data I got is conflicting and that's why I need your input, your experience. I like to move higher now. |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by tensazangetsu20(m): 11:36am On May 19, 2020 |
Jetjacky:Well I haven't had that problem though. Initially I didn't get responses because my proposals were really shitty but as I learnt to write better proposals I got better responses. Another thing I don't just apply to jobs. If the client has less than 70 percent hire rate I don't waste my connects. I also read the requirements because some people are really stupid and you can see it from the kind of job postings they make. 3 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by VictorBode(m): 11:44am On May 19, 2020 |
Jetjacky: Sure thing bro.. Sites like fiverr, I hardly use them any more. Last time I was there in March. If you're looking for a quick stress free way then go for it. Upwork is fairly easy too but you need more "tricks" and competence with good writing ability. Because you want your first job to be success so you can get a good review. 1 Like
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Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by VictorBode(m): 11:46am On May 19, 2020 |
Jetjacky: Anytime a location is brought up, you're a copywriter so address the objection in a smart, friendly and captivating way. And do it in such a way that it's the first or second thing he reads. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by VictorBode(m): 11:48am On May 19, 2020 |
tensazangetsu20: Yup... Hire rate. And payment rate as well. The key is in the profile and proposals |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by Crbc: 11:48am On May 19, 2020 |
tensazangetsu20:At the bolded; you were scammed... There was no test job. That test you did on digital marketing was the real job. Sorry to say... Mostly Indians, Pakistanis etc |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by VictorBode(m): 11:50am On May 19, 2020 |
Crbc: Lmao.. E be things. Indians and Pakistanis are worse than Nigerians but people don't know ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by tensazangetsu20(m): 11:52am On May 19, 2020 |
Crbc:It wasnt a job test like going into Facebook ads and running ads. It was a test with Microsoft excel testing digital marketing knowledge similar to code test for jobs. I still relate to the CEO and they are seriously struggling especially with the lockdown in Spain. The test was on Digital marketing knowledge and applying them to real-life scenarios. Things like ROAS, Case studies, and things like that. |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by Jetjacky(m): 12:38pm On May 19, 2020 |
I like what you are selling bro, especially the latter. How do you make that happen? I like to know what you know regarding Upwork and Fiverr. I follow Danny Marguiles and Lex Deville you-focused strategies, experimenting on combining them. Do you have a ballpark discount for the review service for both platforms? VictorBode: |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by Jetjacky(m): 12:39pm On May 19, 2020 |
I have learned not to take any free tests long ago. Any paid test must follow the milestone process. Crbc: |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by Jetjacky(m): 12:42pm On May 19, 2020 |
Ah, brilliant! I will put that into action soon. VictorBode: |
Re: Nigerian Upwork Freelancers Please Step In Here For A Minute I Need Your Help! by vickertony(m): 1:15pm On May 19, 2020 |
naijacutee:Hi, I'm seeking to learn more from experienced freelancers, guess you are a copywriter. I hope to learn one or two from you,just started out fresh on fiverr, but I want to learn from you. I sent you pm, I'm a writer, copywriter. Best Regards. |
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