Sunshineg5:
Igalas are not Yoruba

We share no cultural similarities with Igala.

You can't hear a word of Igala's language

They don't bear Yoruba names.

Don't tell me you don't understand this.

This is igala language
The similarities is 70%

yii or Iko yii - This time
Egba le or Iko le - That time
Ojo - Day
Ane - Night
Ona - Tomorrow
Eñini - Today
Otona - Next tomorrow
Iko duu - Every time
Aladi - Week
Aladi ki a wa - the week that is coming
Ochu - Month
Odo - Year
Ochu ekeji - Second month
Aladi yii - This Week
Onale - Yesterday



Je - Eat
Ta - Sell
Lolu- Sleep
Kwu - Die
M’omi - Drink water
W’ane - Fall to the ground
N’eti - Listen
Chi - Open
Ido - Dance
Jo - Burn
Uko- Cough
Gwu - Pound
Kpa - Kill
K’eli - Sing
Ko - Write
Ja - Fight
Umi - Rest
Uche - Work
Gb’ane - Sweep
Lo - Go
Akwu - Cry
Feh - Blow
Y’uyo - Rejoice

Urhobo owns comedy in Nigeria and that's a fact.

Alibaba
Igodye
Gordons
Igosave
McJollof
Bovi Ugboma and many others i can't remember.

In nollywood
Fred and Jeta Amata,
Zep Ejiro
Chico Ejiro
RMD

In sports you didn't mention
Efe Ajagba
Wellington Jighere (scrabble champion)
Endurance Oduduru (I never eserrerrit)

These are just the ones i can remember now. That we're not noise makers don't mean we don't have people.

Mystiquefia:


In politics from the military regime to date urhobos have produced notable names like ogbemudia(midwest governor) david edjoor(midwest governor)
general patrick aziza
Oloriogun Felix ibru first governor of delta state
Chief james onanefe ibori
Ogboru worked with abacha and went on exile
cheif olorugun otega emerhor
senator ovie omo-agege(DSP)
Festus keyamo(minister)

in sports we have the likes of
David Defiagbon- Olympic Boxing Silver Medalist
Onoriode Godzilla-boxer
Blessing Okagbare- Athlete
Olusoji Fasuba- Sprinter (born And Bred In Sapele
Ese brume
Endurance Ojokolo- Record Breaking athlete
Peter Dedevbo U20- Womens National Team
Oghenekaro Etebo-super Eagles


In Entertainment we have
ALIBABA- king of comedy
Richard Mofe Damijo- Reverred Face In Movie Industry
Sammie Okposo- Leading Christian M

Nowenuse:


Speak for yourself.
I have heard countless Yorubas who told me they understood like 40-70% of what Igalas were saying.

Igala culture was heavily influenced by Jukun & Igbo, but the language is heavily of Yoruba root.

When I was serving I was actually excited to hear from An Igala friend in camp who told me we have some similar cultural similarities regarding language.

In the end, outside 1 to 10 in Igala language which i merely understood, the rest sounded like a strange version of igbo language to me.


And some Igala actually speak igbo as second language.

I have nothing in common with them.

@Mystiquefia. There is no need for you to include Urhobos in Bayelsa in your comparison to Anioma.
Are u aware that Ndoni people in Rivers state are Ukwuani speaking people? Onitsha, Ogbaru & Oguta people in the SE are also Anioma people? Anioma people do not have a very distinct identity of their own as the larger Igbo tag is swallowing them up.

@NwanyiOgwashi. Warri urban area is overwhelmingly Urhobo. Uvwie & Udu are exclusively Urhobo and without both LGAs, there is no WARRI with the hype everyone knows it with today.
Even Warri south LGA which is the so called 'official Warri' is at least 70% or more Urhobo if not for the addition of Itsekiri villages like Ubeji, Ode-Itsekiri, Ifie e.t.c which are not part of Warri urban.
Warri urban proper (in Warri south LGA) is majority Urhobo, although Itsekiris won the Urhobos in court over ownership of these lands.

@Mystiquefia. I don't think it is fair for you to rule out Asaba's development to Anioma land and claim Udu/Uvwie to Urhobo land.
Udu/Uvwie developed through Warri's urbanization spread. Warri cannot develop into the swamps across the Rivers into the Itsekiri & Ijaw islands and that was why it rapidly developed into the Urhobo mainlands.

Asaba had developed into Okpanam & Igbuzor and will soon reach Ogwashi.

Sunshineg5:
When I was serving I was actually excited to hear from An Igala friend in camp who told me we have some similar cultural similarities regarding language.

In the end, outside 1 to 10 in Igala language which i merely understood, the rest sounded like a strange version of igbo language to me.


And some Igala actually speak igbo as second language.

I have nothing in common with them.

Igala language is Yoruboid

70% similarities

@ Seerade perhaps there maybe some similarities in language

Maybe the way they pronounced theirs was my problem

But we not same with Igalas, they are more closer to igbos than Yorubas

They also share no similar boundaries with any Yoruba tribe

I repeat we are not the same with them.

Seerade029:

Igala language is Yoruboid
70% similarities

I will say 30% to 40% from I am seeing
We and Igala are not the same.

Nowenuse:
Socialjustice Psalmy2cute Mystiquefia darfay Nwanyiogwashi GreatChizzy

As an

Lol, so this thread has been moving like this? I even forgot its existence. Urhobo can't be compared in population to any other tribe aside WAZOBIA and Ijaw. So you know the deputy governor of Bayelsa state Sen. Lawrence Ewhrujakpor is an Urhobo man, that's to tell you the population we have there, I think a senatorial District belongs to us.

Urhobo population didn't just explode. It did so long ago as parents used their kids as farm labour. I saw one stupid list about Asaba having airport. If not for Urhobo disunity, the state capital won't even be in Asaba to start with.

People are free to believe what they want to, if that small madam believes Anioma is bigger than Urhobo, good for her but sensible adults know the true story.

Sunshineg5:
When I was serving I was actually excited to hear from An Igala friend in camp who told me we have some similar cultural similarities regarding language.

In the end, outside 1 to 10 in Igala language which i merely understood, the rest sounded like a strange version of igbo language to me.


And some Igala actually speak igbo as second language.

I have nothing in common with them.

Yes Igalas who were a Yoruba people were heavily influenced by Kwararafan people & Igbos. The influence was so much that it has made them a distinct people today.

Ebira migration worsened it. If Ebiras had not come to settle in between Igalas & Okun, the gap would not have been wide, cos Okun and Okpoto people (who became Igalas today) were together in the past.

There is a reason why linguists classified Igala language as a Yoruboid language. It is a Yoruba based language. Put your ears down, you will understand it very well. Especially the dialect spoken by Northern Igalas.

Most likely that person you met in camp was from Southern Igala.

Southern Igala has been heavily influenced by Igbo language and culture. They are the ones who speak Igbo as a 2nd language
Many Northern Igalas do not even regard Southern Igalas as pure Igalas.

I even thought he was from anioma.

Psalmy2cute:

harry song is ijaw from warri south west local government area

Sunshineg5:
I will say 30% to
40% from I am seeing

We and Igala are not the same.

Nope, it can't be 40%
Any Ekiti / Ondo state indegine will understand Igala faster than Oyo / igbomina / Ibolo etc.

There words are changed from R to L, and L to N
And SH in Yoruba words to CH.

Just like Ondo and Ekiti where there is no Gh.
But GW and KW.

Even in Ondo dialects, Yoruba words are replaced from I to U.
E.g
Ile --- uli
Isu -- Usu
Igbe -- ugbe

Sunshineg5:
@ Seerade perhaps there maybe some similarities in language

Maybe the way they pronounced theirs was my problem

But we not same with Igalas, they are more closer to igbos than Yorubas

They also share no similar boundaries with any Yoruba tribe

I repeat we are not the same with them.

Igalas and Okuns (Kogi west) shared boundary until the Ebiras came from Kwararafa and put them asunder.

Look at the map of Kogi state below. There are Igalas in Ajaokuta & Bassa LGAs and there are Yorubas (Oworo) in Lokoja LGA. Tell me how far these places are from each other if not a stonethrow.

If not for Kwararafan colonization, Igalas (Okpoto people) would have been part of the Yoruba nation just like Okun.

Cc 9jakool forgiveness

Nowenuse:


Yes Igalas who were a Yoruba people were heavily influenced by Kwararafan people & Igbos. The influence was so much that it has made them a distinct people today.

Ebira migration worsened it. If Ebiras had not come to settle in between Igalas & Okun, the gap would not have been wide, cos Okun and Okpoto people (who became Igalas today) were together in the past.

There is a reason why linguists classified Igala language as a Yoruboid language. It is a Yoruba based language. Put your ears down, you will understand it very well. Especially the dialect spoken by Northern Igalas.

Most likely that person you met in camp was from Southern Igala.

Southern Igala has been heavily influenced by Igbo language and culture. They are the ones who speak Igbo as a 2nd language
Many Northern Igalas do not even regard Southern Igalas as pure Igalas.

Are southern igalas those who reside in Anambra?
If not, who are the northern igalas and southern igalas

Nowenuse:


Yes Igalas who were a Yoruba people were heavily influenced by Kwararafan people & Igbos. The influence was so much that it has made them a distinct people today.

Ebira migration worsened it. If Ebiras had not come to settle in between Igalas & Okun, the gap would not have been wide, cos Okun and Okpoto people (who became Igalas today) were together in the past.

There is a reason why linguists classified Igala language as a Yoruboid language. It is a Yoruba based language. Put your ears down, you will understand it very well. Especially the dialect spoken by Northern Igalas.

Most likely that person you met in camp was from Southern Igala.

Southern Igala has been heavily influenced by Igbo language and culture. They are the ones who speak Igbo as a 2nd language
Many Northern Igalas do not even regard Southern Igalas as pure Igalas.

I have nothing in common with Igala

They trace their origin to Kwararafa

They don't bear any Yoruba names

Let them be

Ishekiri are my brothers and bear same names and more importantly trace their origin to Yorubas.

They even invited Opc themselves.

This is my first time of hearing Igala being a Yoruboid language, that is fallacious.


Mr, Newenuse dip that idea into your poor ass.

BrownLondon:
This is my first time of hearing Igala being a Yoruboid language, that is fallacious.


Mr, Newenuse dip that idea into your poor ass.

Igala is a Yoruboid language

Nowenuse:


Igalas and Okuns (Kogi west) shared boundary until the Ebiras came from Kwararafa and put them asunder.

Look at the map of Kogi state below. There are Igalas in Ajaokuta & Bassa LGAs and there are Yorubas (Oworo) in Lokoja LGA. Tell me how far these places are from each other if not a stonethrow.

If not for Kwararafan colonization, Igalas (Okpoto people) would have been part of the Yoruba nation just like Okun.

Cc 9jakool forgiveness

Well! we also have Nupes between Yoruba and Igala People.

I am not denying interactions with Okun Yoruba people and Igala.

But Igala Have Never Traced any orgin elsewhere than Kwararafa.

There is no historical evidence to back your claims.

Isoko is not regarded as a distinct tribe in Nigeria but as a sub group of the urhobo people. Which is why you often see "urhobo-isoko" and not just "isoko".

That being said, with or without the Isokos, urhobos are still the largest tribe in delta state and no amount of self-deceit will change that.

Notwithstanding, the urhobos are not in any way laying claim to them. We stand on our own and don't need to be attached to them for whatever reasons.

Nwanyiogwashi:
At the bold you mean they are no more as one.

And Sunshineg5 you have to stop claiming warri, we Yorubas are too great to be attaching ourself to small minority tribes.

We ain't Ibos that beg for unity, if you noticed the Yorubas in Kwara and Kogi are the one trying to be with their brothers not the other way round, we shouldn't be the one to beg like the Ibos.
Sir Anthony Enahoro tried everything for Mid west region to be part of Western region.... That's Yoruba greatness.

Stop saying their are Yorubas in Delta, they should be the one to claim us.

SocialJustice:
Lol, so this thread has been moving like this? I even forgot its existence. Urhobo can't be compared in population to any other tribe aside WAZOBIA and Ijaw. So you know the deputy governor of Bayelsa state Sen. Lawrence Ewhrujakpor is an Urhobo man, that's to tell you the population we have there, I think a senatorial District belongs to us.

Urhobo population didn't just explode. It did so long ago as parents used their kids as farm labour. I saw one stupid list about Asaba having airport. If not for Urhobo disunity, the state capital won't even be in Asaba to start with.

People are free to believe what they want to, if that small madam believes Anioma is bigger than Urhobo, good for her but sensible adults know the true story.

No pls.

The Urhobo deputy governor in Bayelsa is no indication of Urhobo population in Bayelsa pls. It is just pure luck.

Urhobos have only 1 town (Ofoni) in the whole Bayelsa state. How on Earth does that translate to 1 senatorial district . Urhobos do not even dominate Sagbama LGA where Ofoni is found, let alone a senatorial district. Abeg cool down bros.

Just like I just told Mystiquefia, if you Urhobos get Isokos, Ofoni and everywhere else and Aniomas get Ndoni, Onitsha city, Ogbaru & Oguta, can you compare with them?
I hope you know there are other Ika (Anioma) speaking towns in Edo state like Igbanke, Iru e.t.c?

For me, I think Urhobos & Aniomas are a match in most things.

Cc Efewestern Efe2real

Seerade029:



Igala is a Yoruboid language

You're wrong, we don't know Igala, Igala means an Antelope in Yoruba language.

You have to desist from saying that, we don't give a fvck about them.

Sunshineg5:
Well! we also have Nupes between Yoruba and Igala People.

I am not denying interactions with Okun Yoruba people and Igala.

But Igala Have Never Traced any orgin elsewhere than Kwararafa.

There is no historical evidence to back your claims.

Not all Igalas trace their roots to Kwararafa pls.
It is mostly the Attah and royal families who were descendants of Jukuns.
Just like Itsekiri royalties claim Benin origin.

Most Igalas are of Okpoto origin (aboriginal Yoruba speakers). Many others are of Hausa & Igbo origins.
Kwararafa is just associated with prestige and honour in those days like BENIN and that is why so many Igalas claim Kwararafa. But it is not true.

Why is the King in Omala LGA called the ONU IFE?

BrownLondon:
And Sunshineg5 you have to stop claiming warri, we Yorubas are too great to be attaching ourself to small minority tribes.

We ain't Ibos that beg for unity, if you noticed the Yorubas in Kwara and Kogi are the one trying to be with their brothers not the other way round, we shouldn't be the one to beg like the Ibos.
Sir Anthony Enahoro tried everything for Mid west region to be part of Western region.... That's Yoruba greatness.

Stop saying their are Yorubas in Delta, they should be the one to claim us.

Bro I don't claim anyone

The dude I am arguing with is From Jos but a closet Yoruba hater because he lived among igbos. He wants a Middle belt republic and he thinks hating on Yorubas would be the right way to go about middle belt republic.

Needless to say, Ishekiris have never had any say in their future since the time of Western Nigeria in the 60s

Ishekiris didn't want to leave western region to begin with but forced against their own wishes

Ishekiri didn't want to leave mid west but forced against their wishes

Ishekiris never wanted to be Delta state but forced against their wishes

Ishekiri were killed in the 1997 Warri riots over a where the head quaters of Warri south west should be. Their lands taken over by Ijaws.

I believe going forward, should Nigeria break up, the Ishekiris should allowed to decide where they want to belong.

Why can't a yoruba person use the same luck to become deputy Governor in SE?

Nowenuse:


No pls.

The Urhobo deputy governor in Bayelsa is no indication of Urhobo population in Bayelsa pls. It is just pure luck.

Urhobos have only 1 town (Ofoni) in the whole Bayelsa state. How on Earth does that translate to 1 senatorial district . Urhobos do not even dominate Sagbama LGA where Ofoni is found, let alone a senatorial district. Abeg cool down bros.

Just like I just told Mystiquefia, if you Urhobos get Isokos, Ofoni and everywhere else and Aniomas get Ndoni, Onitsha city, Ogbaru & Oguta, can you compare with them?
I hope you know there are other Ika (Anioma) speaking towns in Edo state like Igbanke, Iru e.t.c?

For me, I think Urhobos & Aniomas are a match in most things.

Cc Efewestern Efe2real

Sunshineg5:
Bro I don't claim anyone

The dude I am arguing with is From Jos but a closet Yoruba hater because he lived among igbos. He wants a Middle belt republic and he thinks hating on Yorubas would be the right way to go about middle belt republic.

Needless to say, Ishekiris have never had any say in their future since the time of Western Nigeria in the 60s

Ishekiris didn't want to leave western region to begin with but forced against their own wishes

Ishekiri didn't want to leave mid west but forced against their wishes

Ishekiris never wanted to be Delta state but forced against their wishes

Ishekiri were killed in the 1997 Warri riots over a where the head quaters of Warri south west should be. Their lands taken over by Ijaws.

I believe going forward, should Nigeria break up, the Ishekiris should allowed to decide where they want to belong.

Very good, itshekiri people seems to have a great connection with us, I was surprised when I heard Omawumi, the popular Hip hop star is not Yoruba.

However, they should be the one claiming us albeit I understand you clearly now.

As for Nowenuse , he's a famous Yoruba hater here, he once claimed His Poor Plateau state will jump Nassarawa to join the Dead Biafra, that wrecked state.

Yoruba language is arguably the most spoken second language in Nigeria, that's why those guys want to attach one Igala with us.

If you be musician and you no dey add Yoruba to your lyrics, nah OYO you dey.

Have you ever seen a Yoruba man that can speak Igbo language?

Parisian:
Isoko is not regarded as a distinct tribe in Nigeria but as a sub group of the urhobo people. Which is why you often see "urhobo-isoko" and not just "isoko".

[s]That being said, with or without the Isokos, urhobos are still the largest tribe in delta state and no amount of self-deceit will change that.
[/s]
Notwithstanding, the urhobos are not in any way laying claim to them. We stand on our own and don't need to be attached to them for whatever reasons.

Another lie by Urhobo people

Nowenuse:


No pls.

The Urhobo deputy governor in Bayelsa is no indication of Urhobo population in Bayelsa pls. It is just pure luck.

Urhobos have only 1 town (Ofoni) in the whole Bayelsa state. How on Earth does that translate to 1 senatorial district . Urhobos do not even dominate Sagbama LGA where Ofoni is found, let alone a senatorial district. Abeg cool down bros.

Just like I just told Mystiquefia, if you Urhobos get Isokos, Ofoni and everywhere else and Aniomas get Ndoni, Onitsha city, Ogbaru & Oguta, can you compare with them?
I hope you know there are other Ika (Anioma) speaking towns in Edo state like Igbanke, Iru e.t.c?

For me, I think Urhobos & Aniomas are a match in most things.

Cc Efewestern Efe2real

Oh really, I don't have the facts and figures so can't dispute.

At the end of the day, this discussion is still unnecessary, the Hausa/Fulani with their large undisputed population are mostly a nuisance and pest to the entirety of Nigeria as almost all negative HDI index Nigeria has are domiciled in the North - Poverty, sickness, out of school children, poor hygiene, child marriage and so on.

Take the itsekiris on the other hand, small ethnic group but powerful politically and economically. Any outsider would think The Olu of Warri is in total control of Warri the same way the Oba of Benin controls Benin city.

SocialJustice:
Lol, so this thread has been moving like this? I even forgot its existence. Urhobo can't be compared in population to any other tribe aside WAZOBIA and Ijaw. So you know the deputy governor of Bayelsa state Sen. Lawrence Ewhrujakpor is an Urhobo man, that's to tell you the population we have there, I think a senatorial District belongs to us.

Urhobo population didn't just explode. It did so long ago as parents used their kids as farm labour. I saw one stupid list about Asaba having airport. If [s]not for Urhobo disunity, the state capital won't even be in Asaba to start with.
[/s]
[s]People are free to believe what they want to, if that small madam believes Anioma is bigger than Urhobo, good for her but sensible adults know the true story.

[/s] 1.Who made Asaba the capital?

2.Are you adding isoko and warri as Urhobo or just Urhobo?

Nwanyiogwashi:
Another lie by Urhobo people

What do you hope to achieve with this your thread? Will you be happy if we agree to everything you say because this discourse in its entirety is inconsequential in the real world.

Parisian:
Why can't a yoruba person use the same luck to become deputy Governor in SE?

Hmmm, Tribalism apart.

We have Yorubas holding political offices in UK, so I will not say we don't intrude into other people's affair.

I think Yorubas don't like going to igboland, I don't know the reason why.

If I tell you that I don't know anyone living in SE would you believe?

The population of yorubas in SE Is very small, their voice won't go far.

BrownLondon:

Very good, itshekiri people seems to have a great connection with us, I was surprised when I heard Omawumi, the popular Hip hop star is not Yoruba.

However, they should be the one claiming us albeit I understand you clearly now.

As for Nowenuse , he's a famous Yoruba hater here, he once claimed His Poor Plateau state will jump Nassarawa to join the Dead Biafra, that wrecked state.

Yoruba language is arguably the most spoken second language in Nigeria, that's why those guys want to attach one Igala with us.

If you be musician and you no dey add Yoruba to your lyrics, nah OYO you dey.

Have you ever seen a Yoruba man that can speak Igbo language?

Omo yorrooba you just can't make your points and beat your dry chest in peace without dragging your eternal nightmare (Igbos) into your nonsense abi? If we begin reason your matter now you'll call us emotional blah blah blah, kontinue

Tobrasky:

Omo yorrooba you just can't make your points and beat your dry chest in peace without dragging your eternal nightmare (Igbos) into your nonsense abi? If we begin reason your matter now you'll call us emotional blah blah blah, kontinue

You ain't making sense.