Still on the matter of human resources, can Urhobo or any any other tribe in the whole of the South South measure up to the Anioma's? Note that Anioma is just a subgroup of the Igbo nation ooo, I still dey wait for una counter arguments.

Nowenuse:
Socialjustice Psalmy2cute Mystiquefia darfay Nwanyiogwashi GreatChizzy

As an outsider (a non-southerner) who was born and bred in Delta state. I think I should be in a better position to give some good conclusive opinions as regards Urhobo and Anioma comparison without any bias.

POPULATION

This is something I have thought about and argued time and over with many Deltans.
My conclusion is that Urhobos are more than Aniomas, but the margin is not wide. It is slim.
Urhobos had a great population explosion in the last 100 years. Urhobos have clearly been giving birth to more children than Aniomas in the last century.

Judging population of an ethnicity based on number of LGAs or population census is wrong.

Urhobo LGAs are more urbanized and cosmopolitan than Anioma LGAs and as such the figures will always favor Urhobo in this regard.
Also, from my observation, there are more Anioma people living outside Anioma land than Urhobos living outside Urhobo land.

Urhobos migrated more than Anioma people in the past. There were so many Urhobo migrants in rural Benin, Lagos (Ajegunle) and even as far as Jos & Liberia, there were large Urhobo communities. However, a large chunk of these migrant Urhobos returned back home within the 80s, 90s and millenial years due to the economic oil boom and great urbanization in the Warri environs.

Aniomas on the other hand have a strong migrant population in the SE. In urban Benin & Lagos, Aniomas most likely outnumber Urhobos. Jos is the only city outside Delta state that Urhobos will likely outnumber Aniomas in Nigeria.
Rural Benin still has a strong Urhobo population. Rural Ondo/Ogun still has a strong Urhobo population.

Asaba just started developing recently, so it will take much time for it drag back Anioma people in large numbers.


So, Urhobos should stop bragging with the population of their LGAs. No, cos as it stands, Aniomas travel out of their homeland more than Urhobos right now.

Aniomas too should stop bragging with their 9 LGAs cos it has nothing on Urhobo population.

Till tomorrow Urhobo are not the largest in Delta state forget what you hear from people. If you believe that Urhobo people are the largest then ijaw are the 4th largest in Nigeria according to their claim too.If a proper census is conducted today with out adding isoko as Urhobo you will know that it all lies

Parisian:
They're talking of [b]shell gas plant a[/b]nd this one is mentioning "home of nollywood movies". Nollywood movies that i can shoot in my parlour.

At the bold is it still working?

Nwanyiogwashi:
[/s] 1.Who made Asaba the capital?

2.Are you adding isoko and warri as Urhobo or just Urhobo?

1. Babangida made Asaba capital for his wife Maryam.

2. The Urhobos include Okpe and Isoko even though they prefer to assume they are not Urhobos until they get into trouble. Warri City has 3 local governments. Uvwie, Udu and Warri North or South not sure. Uvwie(This is where Delta Mall in Effurun is located) and Udu(This is where Delta Steel Aladja is located) are Urhobo local governments. So most of Warri City belongs to the Urhobos.

[[b]quote author=Sunshineg5 post=89727048] They can also accuse you igbos in Delta state of using their money to develop Asaba li[/b]ke you often accuse the Yorubas on Lagos.

You people should work out your differences and stop fighting over nothing. [/quote]Anioma land also have oil too.

Tobrasky:
Still on the matter of human resources, can Urhobo or any any other tribe in the whole of the South South measure up to the Anioma's? Note that Anioma is just a subgroup of the Igbo nation ooo, I still dey wait for una counter arguments.

You agree you're igbos, I hope when this country finally splits, Delta North becomes part of Biafra and not Niger Delta. So you guys can base your budget on yams and cassava because that's the only thing you have.

Nwanyiogwashi:
Anioma land also have oil too.

Not up More than 60,000 barrels a day

Warri south west produces 460,000 barrels a day.

SocialJustice:
You agree you're igbos, I hope when this country finally splits, Delta North becomes part of Biafra and not Niger Delta. So you guys can base your budget on yams and cassava because that's the only thing you have.

God...

Nwanyiogwashi:
Till tomorrow Urhobo are not the largest in Delta state forget what you hear from people. If you believe that Urhobo people are the largest then ijaw are the 4th largest in Nigeria according to their claim too.If a proper census is conducted today with out adding isoko as Urhobo you will know that it all lies

Have you been to Delta Central at all? Leave the comfort of your house and see what's going on.

[quote author=SocialJustice post=89730030]1. Babangida made Asaba capital for his wife Maryam.

2. The Urhobos include Okpe and Isoko even though they prefer to assume they are not Urhobos until they get into trouble. Warri City has 3 local governments. Uvwie, Udu and Warri North or South not sure. Uvwie(This is where Delta Mall in Effurun is located) and Udu(This is where Delta Steel Aladja is located) are Urhobo local governments. So most of Warri City belongs to the Urhobos. [/quote]I ask you that question because you said if Urhobo had unite that Asaba wouldn't have be capital even if Urhobo is united Asaba would have been the capital

I have many isoko that denied the urhobo tag but that case is left for them to settle

BrownLondon:

God...

No mind them, they don't even have ordinary water to drink in Delta North. As early as Abraka in Ethiope East, water is already leaving, by Obiaruku no water. You must buy or sink borehole.

[quote author=Sunshineg5 post=89730183] Not up More than 60,000 barrels a day

Warri south west produces 460,000 barrels a day. [/quote]Lagos Ibadan express media abi? Do your search well

SocialJustice:
You agree you're igbos, I hope when this country finally splits, Delta North becomes part of Biafra and not Niger Delta. So you guys can base your budget on yams and cassava because that's the only thing you have.

Anioma was never part of Niger Delta

SocialJustice:
You agree you're igbos, I hope when this country finally splits, Delta North becomes part of Biafra and not Niger Delta. So you guys can base your budget on yams and cassava because that's the only thing you have.

Of course we are Igbos, we RESEMBLE Afonja abi Ishan to you? see this guy ooo . Ok let me make it easier for you. My question was, can any tribe you come from... boast of this preponderance of human resources, the list too plenty sef but make I indulge you on the few already listed:

Gebrel Ifeanyi Ogbechi Rainoil

Benedict Peters Aiteo Group

Dame Winifred Akpani Northwest petroleum and Gas

Prof. Steve Agwo Okecha, renowned academic, author of international repute and elder statesman

Dennis Osadebe, politician, poet, journalist and former premier of the now defunct Mid-Western Region of Nigeria, which now comprises Edo and Delta State.

Sebastine Okoh >> SSA To Deputy Senate President ( CEO Stiinos)

Zulu Sofola, the first published female Nigerian playwright and dramatist and first female
Professor of Theater Arts in Africa.

Buchi Emecheta, Nigerian-born British novelist

Godwin Emefiele, the Governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria.

Gift Kenneth >> CEO GSP Global Services

Ifeanyi Okowa, former Nigerian Senator and Executive Governor of Delta State

Austine "Jay-Jay" Okocha, former Captain of Super Eagles of Nigeria

Sunday Oliseh, former Captain of super Eagles of Nigeria

Stephen Okechukwu Keshi, former Super Eagles captain and Malian National Football Team Coach

Nduka Ugbade, Nigeria's former football player and the first African to lift the world cup

Demas Nwoko, prominent Sculptor of Nigeria

Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, the current Managing Director of World Bank

Elizabeth Isichei, prominent historian

Obi Prof Joseph Chike Edozien, the Asagba of Asaba

Emmanuel Ibe Kachikwu, Minister of State for Petroleum

Jim Ovia, M/D Zenith Bank

Tony Elumelu, Chairman of Heirs Holdings, the United Bank for Africa, Transcorp and founder of The Tony Elumelu Foundation

Air-Marshal Paul Dike, former Chief of Defence Staff of Nigeria NASA

Joy Ogwu, former Mangaging Director of Nigeria Institute of International Affairs

Patrick Utomi, Presidential Candidate and Founder of Lagos Business School

Phillip Asiodu, former Federal Minister

Nduka Odizor, former Lawn tennis player

Maryam Babangida, wife of General Ibrahim Babangida

Chief. Sonny Iwedike Odogwu, business mogul

Chukwurah Joseph Udeh OFR, former Comptroller-General Nigerian Immigration Service
Obi senator Nosike Ikpo, former Senator of the Federal Republic

Chief Sabastine Adigwe, former MD, Afribank NIgeria PLC

Godswill Obielum, former Governorship Aspirant, Delta State

Peter Okocha, Governorship aspirant, Delta State and Business Mongul

Eddy Egwuenu, distinguished banker, co-founder Zenith Bank
Dr. Newton Jibunor, famous Sahara traveller

Dr. Cyril Uchenna Gwam, diplomat, international civil servant and international environmentalist

Bonny B. N. Umeadi PhD, Technologist and Inventor of Micro/Nanosensor Devices to monitor oil and gas pipeline system

Arc. Kester Ifeadi, Chairman/CEO Contemporary Group and President Organisation For the Advancement of Anioma Culture(OFAAC)

Engr. Emma Onyekwene, MD/CEO, Coolman Oil Services

Chief G.N. Ogwude (Late), Mathematician and Academician

Colonel Joseph "Hannibal" Achuzie

Chief Epiphany Azinge, a Professor and a Senior Advocate of Nigeria. Former Director of Nigerian Institute of Advance Legal Studies.(NIALS).


I'm waiting.

SocialJustice:
No mind them, they don't even have ordinary water to drink in Delta North. As early as Abraka in Ethiope East, water is already leaving, by Obiaruku no water. You must buy or sink borehole.

Now you're beginning to sound really pained

Nwanyiogwashi:

Warri south west produces 460,000 barrels a day. Lagos Ibadan express media abi? Do your search well

Check Escravos aka Ugborodo in Warri South west

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escravos_River

460,000 Barrels per day

Nwanyiogwashi:
[quote author=SocialJustice post=89730030]1. Babangida made Asaba capital for his wife Maryam.

2. The Urhobos include Okpe and Isoko even though they prefer to assume they are not Urhobos until they get into trouble. Warri City has 3 local governments. Uvwie, Udu and Warri North or South not sure. Uvwie(This is where Delta Mall in Effurun is located) and Udu(This is where Delta Steel Aladja is located) are Urhobo local governments. So most of Warri City belongs to the Urhobos. I ask you that question because you said if Urhobo had unite that Asaba wouldn't have be capital even if Urhobo is united Asaba would have been the capital

I have many isoko that denied the urhobo tag but that case is left for them to settle

Yes they deny Urhobo but when trouble comes, they run to us and start trying to mobilise resources from all of Urhobo. The Okpes ran to us in 1920s when Itsekiri tried claiming Sapele and we won the case through Urhobo joint effort but today Okpe people want to claim they are not Urhobo.

When Isoko gets into trouble, the will carry their load by themselves.

Daddy Showkey is Isoko but sees himself as Urhobo.

The dialects may be different but you will know Isoko is Urhobo when you hear it. If the Yorubas segregated according to dialects, the won't be the powerful unit they are today.

That idiot spoilt everything by making a list of thieves that stole from Nigeria.

I was expecting something special.

Tobrasky:

Now you're beginning to sound really pained

This is just a discourse for us to learn. Sometimes people assume they know something but they are wrong. Me when Nigeria as a whole don tire. Citizens of sensible countries are discussing technological and economic advancement, we are here arguing who is bigger than who. Primitive Black people.

Sunshineg5:
Check Escravos aka Ugborodo in Warri South west

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escravos_River

460,000 Barrels per day

this are just Ndokwa land of Anioma

Sunshineg5:
Check Escravos aka Ugborodo in Warri South west

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escravos_River

460,000 Barrels per day

then add all,leave Lagos Ibadan express media

SocialJustice:
Yes they deny Urhobo but when trouble comes, they run to us and start trying to mobilise resources from all of Urhobo. The Okpes ran to us in 1920s when Itsekiri tried claiming Sapele and we won the case through Urhobo joint effort but today Okpe people want to claim they are not Urhobo.

When Isoko gets into trouble, the will carry their load by themselves.

Daddy Showkey is Isoko but sees himself as Urhobo.

The dialects may be different but you will know Isoko is Urhobo when you hear it. If the Yorubas segregated according to dialects, the won't be the powerful unit they are today.

So after helping them they still deny Urhobo

Tobrasky:

Of course we are Igbos, we RESEMBLE Afonja abi Ishan to you? see this guy ooo . Ok let me make it easier for you. My question was, can any tribe you come from... boast of this preponderance of human resources, the list too plenty sef but make I indulge you on the few already listed
I'm waiting.

I do not have a directory of prominent Urhobos like you have of the Aniomas but should that list exist, I'm sure this your list won't come close.

Thermodynamics:
Well, this isn't an issue we Nigerians should be talking about, in the western world, nobody knows Urhobo or itsekiri or Ijaws or Igbos or Hausa or Yoruba, they see all of us as BLACK PEOPLE FROM AFRICA.

I didn't want to comment on this thread because I don't want to seem biased for speaking the truth, but after reading some annoying comments here, I had to force myself.

There are some things I want to make clear, the percentage of Urhobo indigens in Warri is very small, very very small, Warri is owned by the Itsekiris and the Ijaws. Also, in terms of population, Delta Igbos are number one, except you want to add Isoko as part of Urhobo.

My mum is an Isoko woman and most of my friends are Isoko as well and I can tell you with all confidence, Isoko people do not agree that they are part of Urhobo, they prefer to be identified as Isoko and not Urhobo. If you call them Urhobo they'll argue with you.

The Urhobos are loud and generally like to claim ownership, they feel like they are superior to other ethnic groups in the state, they feel like they own the state eventhough they don't really have that much power.

I'll just stop here in other not to appear like a tribal bigot

Urhobo indigenes in warri might be small as with ijaw and itsekiri but urhobo popular there can not be termed small

Nwanyiogwashi:
So after helping them they still deny Urhobo

That's what the Okpes have done. They have this popular disgusting saying of segregation "Ama na'ma" meaning family first or so, I don't know but when they say it, it's like saying only Okpes allowed.

SocialJustice:
I do not have a directory of prominent Urhobos like you have of the Aniomas but should that list exist, I'm sure this your list won't come close.

Please list them I dey wait,una even reach Anioma in human development index/resources? Dude we are talking about people of Igbo stock here, and not some minority group that just started sending their sons and daughters to college just yesterday. when it comes to achievements we are haynakers of the TKO category

SocialJustice:
That's what the Okpes have done. They have this popular disgusting saying of segregation "Ama na'ma" meaning family first or so, I don't know but when they say it, it's like saying only Okpes allowed.

OK you people should settle una family matter

Nwanyiogwashi:
this are just Ndokwa land of Anioma

Hope you know the difference between Natural gas and Crude oil?

You only showed me natural gas reserves

Ok Ndokwa produce 115,000 barrels of oil less than half of what Warri south west alone produce

Warri North also produce over 56,000 barrels a day

Sammy07:



You're right.
Igalas and Itshekiri are Yoruboid languages.
If written, I'll understand them well.

Losing them doesn't mean anything.
At least, they're still yoruboid languages.

They can join us if they wish

Chai
Because of oyel

Nowenuse:
Socialjustice Psalmy2cute Mystiquefia darfay Nwanyiogwashi GreatChizzy

As an outsider (a non-southerner) who was born and bred in Delta state. I think I should be in a better position to give some good conclusive opinions as regards Urhobo and Anioma comparison without any bias.

POPULATION

This is something I have thought about and argued time and over with many Deltans.
My conclusion is that Urhobos are more than Aniomas, but the margin is not wide. It is slim.
Urhobos had a great population explosion in the last 100 years. Urhobos have clearly been giving birth to more children than Aniomas in the last century.

Judging population of an ethnicity based on number of LGAs or population census is wrong.

Urhobo LGAs are more urbanized and cosmopolitan than Anioma LGAs and as such the figures will always favor Urhobo in this regard.
Also, from my observation, there are more Anioma people living outside Anioma land than Urhobos living outside Urhobo land.

Urhobos migrated more than Anioma people in the past. There were so many Urhobo migrants in rural Benin, Lagos (Ajegunle) and even as far as Jos & Liberia, there were large Urhobo communities. However, a large chunk of these migrant Urhobos returned back home within the 80s, 90s and millenial years due to the economic oil boom and great urbanization in the Warri environs.

Aniomas on the other hand have a strong migrant population in the SE. In urban Benin & Lagos, Aniomas most likely outnumber Urhobos. Jos is the only city outside Delta state that Urhobos will likely outnumber Aniomas in Nigeria.
Rural Benin still has a strong Urhobo population. Rural Ondo/Ogun still has a strong Urhobo population.

Asaba just started developing recently, so it will take much time for it drag back Anioma people in large numbers.


So, Urhobos should stop bragging with the population of their LGAs. No, cos as it stands, Aniomas travel out of their homeland more than Urhobos right now.

Aniomas too should stop bragging with their 9 LGAs cos it has nothing on Urhobo population.

I still think Urhobos are the majority by an increasing margin in Delta state. Most of the figures for urhobo population usually excludes warri south which contains the largest city in the state and the urhobo population should be around 40-50% percent there. Adding that would give them a very clear margin over the Anioma people plus the gap keeps increasing

Thermodynamics:
Well, this isn't an issue we Nigerians should be talking about, in the western world, nobody knows Urhobo or itsekiri or Ijaws or Igbos or Hausa or Yoruba, they see all of us as BLACK PEOPLE FROM AFRICA.

I didn't want to comment on this thread because I don't want to seem biased for speaking the truth, but after reading some annoying comments here, I had to force myself.

There are some things I want to make clear, the percentage of Urhobo indigens in Warri is very small, very very small, Warri is owned by the Itsekiris and the Ijaws. Also, in terms of population, Delta Igbos are number one, except you want to add Isoko as part of Urhobo.

My mum is an Isoko woman and most of my friends are Isoko as well and I can tell you with all confidence, Isoko people do not agree that they are part of Urhobo, they prefer to be identified as Isoko and not Urhobo. If you call them Urhobo they'll argue with you.

The Urhobos are loud and generally like to claim ownership, they feel like they are superior to other ethnic groups in the state, they feel like they own the state eventhough they don't really have that much power.

I'll just stop here in other not to appear like a tribal bigot

You're actually an ignorant tribal bigot.

The epicentre of Warri, Effurun is it an Urhobo or Ijaw or itsekiri community? Is Udu an itsekiri community?

The rest of Warri is Warri South and North, Warri southwest is somewhere else.

I personally do not care of the Isokos because they are inconsequential in the scope of things. I don't even know where you guys are hiding in the Delta South senatorial District.

You sound like us, eat like us, dress like us, even the ANIOMAs are more distinct from Igbo than Isokos are from Urhobo.

It is this funny behaviour that led to that Isoko agitator paying the ultimate price with no Urhobo intervention. With Ijaw and Itsekiri being mostly united, see what Ekpemupolo and Emami were able to achieve.

Nobody knows everything completely, even when I'm wrong I take correction here. Say what you have to say and don't make it sound like there's one thing special about the Isokos.

Being loud is not even the problem urhobo has, it is disunity, disunity started by Isokos and Okpes and is spreading through Urhobo with every kingdom wanting to act independent of the other whereas we all share one ancestral link. I don't know where Isokos are from though, don't care.

[quote author=Sunshineg5 post=89731605] Hope you know the difference between Natural gas and Crude oil?

You only showed me natural gas reserves

Ok Ndokwa produce 115,000 barrels of oil less than half of what Warri south west alone produce

Warri North also produce over 56,000 barrels a day
[/quote]
1.Please tell me the difference between gas and oil since you don't understand what I post.

2.I only post that of Ndokwa land alone not the whole Anioma

3.let the gas reserve dey there for now

4.if I still add oil in (Anioma) Ndoni of river state