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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 3:27pm On May 20, 2020 |
TheGoodJoe: You mean we should dump a coach who gets results for a coach who will fail in the next couple of years for a dream which may not be realised? Nice ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:28pm On May 20, 2020 |
sheyishemba: I wonder why they are debating this. If you give Klopp a game of 90 minutes. Most times he will dominate the game for 60-70 minutes or even more. You can not tag that coach conservative in anyway. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:29pm On May 20, 2020 |
Subzero047: When it is time for us to grow, we will plan and move forward. For now, let us be looking for results. No one said failed in a couple of years but win some lose some. Just as Rohr is doing now but the team will move forward. Your talking as if Rohr has won every game he has coached. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kendrick9(m): 3:29pm On May 20, 2020 |
Subzero047:Definitely not me.. You are alone on that insane view. Klopp teams are always on the front foot no matter the team they face.. That Liverpool are the amongst the best at counterattacking at speed doesn't mean they are not an attacking team.... |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 3:30pm On May 20, 2020 |
[quote author=Edopesin post=89763031] Argentina will always have the attacking edge over us, we will always be on the back foot against them and depend on the counter[/quote go and re watch the friendly match if Nigeria had attack Argentina like that in the world it would have been an absolute different scenario 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:30pm On May 20, 2020 |
Subzero047: How did you come to that very hasty conclusion. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 3:30pm On May 20, 2020 |
TheGoodJoe: Atleast Siasia failed to qualify us for the Afcon 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:31pm On May 20, 2020 |
Subzero047: So how can a coach who can meet and dominate Barcelona in a match be termed a counter attacking coach in any way. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:31pm On May 20, 2020 |
Subzero047: That's why l asked what are the qualities required to be a deserving coach in the SE. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:33pm On May 20, 2020 |
Subzero047: He did not start and never given enough time. That is what I call a short term plan. In a long term plan, the team will keep improving with time. You can see a team that did not qualify in a year or two, dominating some of the best teams in the World. Qualifying and having a mediocre Afcon, then the team is not being believed to be good of anything great is not growth to me. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 3:33pm On May 20, 2020 |
TheGoodJoe: Guy you don't understand the meaning of counter attacking play in counter attacking you park you bus and you regain possession in your own half then you need a attacking midfielder to orchestrate this Sir tell me the attacking midfielder that Liverpool has |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 3:33pm On May 20, 2020 |
kendrick9: There is a reason 'attacking' is in the word counterattacking, now ask yourself how does his attack originate from the creativity of his midfielders or the mistake of his opponents? Teams can be so good from counterattacking that they dominate teams e.g Mourinho's Real Madrid 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:34pm On May 20, 2020 |
komekn:to play attacking football ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 3:35pm On May 20, 2020 |
sheyishemba: Balogun is no ball playing defender, A team that covers quickly when they lose possession will close in on him before he can say jack he is a decent defender but he is no playing defender 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:36pm On May 20, 2020 |
Edopesin:u said it all 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:36pm On May 20, 2020 |
sheyishemba: I do not agree. Counter attacking play relies a lot on your approach in the whole game. Not just your set up. Even Man City fall back deep when we fail to lose the ball in the first 6 seconds. But, in the whole game, we do not rely on defending but attacking to give us results. Liverpool spends most of their time in the offensive. Maybe because of a compact midfield, you forget they rely a lot on their full backs pushing high up most of the time, pairing up with the forwards. Wijnaldum also push forward. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kendrick9(m): 3:37pm On May 20, 2020 |
Subzero047:His creativity comes from his fullbacks.... Mourinho's Madrid team didn't dominate the ball against top teams like klopp team does... 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 3:37pm On May 20, 2020 |
sheyishemba: What happened in the first half of that friendly and in the world cup? they were all over us and our goals in the second half were from counter attacks |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 3:37pm On May 20, 2020 |
This is the difference between Gegenpressing (Klopp) and Tiki taka (Guardiola)
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 3:37pm On May 20, 2020 |
Edopesin: I've said in my previous post that it depends on the teams tactics ...Ajayi is playing as a stopper coz thats what rohr want ekong is also a stopper coz that what rohr and udinese want but balogun best role AS A CB IS A "BALL PLAYING DEFENDER" |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 3:39pm On May 20, 2020 |
5inchdick:Absolutely agree 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kendrick9(m): 3:39pm On May 20, 2020 |
sheyishemba:You risk ally don't get the system of football Liverpool plays.. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:39pm On May 20, 2020 |
chrisooblog: Thats not even the worst. For me the proverbial " dirty slap in the face" to black players is Lee Bowyer and Joey Barton both of them essentially racist thugs. Joey Barton is a hooligan but despite all his misdemeanours which are present continous fighting other managers, etc . As soon as he finishes football his in management within months. See screen shot about his brother below.
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 3:39pm On May 20, 2020 |
charlesemeka85:Morocco sef that has more technical players than us see how they struggle. my Guy Joe is talking as if we are negative all the time. can rohr be unduly conservative at times? yes no one has disputed that but that conservatism is mostly down to opposition and players available. since last year's AFCON haven't we been playing more expansive football since the addition of extra quality like Aribo and a few others? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 3:40pm On May 20, 2020 |
TheGoodJoe: our goals in the second half were from the counter, it was not like we were knocking the Argentines around |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 3:42pm On May 20, 2020 |
Subzero047: When you put it like that though ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:42pm On May 20, 2020 |
Subzero047: You are forgetting that Guardiola has evolved overtime and does not rely purely on passing style of play. We now attack relentlessly, winning the ball high up the pitch alot of times and cutting counters with our full backs dropping into midfield. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kendrick9(m): 3:43pm On May 20, 2020 |
Subzero047:Every possession team wins the ball back quickly... Pep's Barca and Bayern sides worked as hard as anyone when they lost the ball... Gengenpressing ain't much different. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:44pm On May 20, 2020 |
Edopesin: So because Manchester City counters teams, we are not knocking the ball around. In the second half, we played in full throttle. Most of the time we had the ball, we went on the offensive. Note the bolded. That is what the true characteristics of attacking football is. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:44pm On May 20, 2020 |
charlesemeka85: Any good coach will adapt his team either a reflection of the players he has. There are two levels of comparison AFCON and World cup. The quality required for AFCON zis different from the World Cup. With regards to the world cup teams that win and progress to the Finals will have at least 4 world class players. How many world class players do we have❓ In the first instance. And you want to play attacking football hmmm |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 3:44pm On May 20, 2020 |
Subzero047: if you study kloop play very well you will notice he plays an attacking play but some times can hit on counter attack that if they have the chance but Liverpool relies on counter attacker thats a huge lie liverpool attack like their live depends Liverpool use all their player to attack expect Gomez ,van djik, milner and Henderson these player cover up the defense with milner and Henderson provuding cover for Robertson and Arnold thats just Liverpool tactics they engage all of their players to attacking thats why in all of van djik goals he hardly scores with foot most of his goals are headed goals from set pieces 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 3:45pm On May 20, 2020 |
Subzero047: How many times have you seen Liverpool playing counter if I may ask ? Right from Dortmund days klopp have been an attacking coach |
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