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Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by meetme01: 10:55am On May 22, 2020 |
Water in its pure state is a poor conductor of electricity but when it contains impurities like salt, it is a good conductor of electricity. |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by Talib93(m): 10:57am On May 22, 2020 |
iyke484real:Your question has incomplete data, so we cannot simulate the event for you ![]() |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by babseg(m): 11:03am On May 22, 2020 |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by KingAzubuike(f): 11:12am On May 22, 2020 |
iyke484real:It will , but only regions close enough. Too deep even when close, you won't feel anything. Too shallow but far away, you won't feel a thing too. 1 Like |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by greenmonk: 11:35am On May 22, 2020 |
iyke484real:I don't know the essence of the question. Do you want to use the river Niger as your transmission medium or the lagoon as your power reservoir? The presence of an electrical line in a river or anywhere other than the transmission system is abnormal and be reported to the relevant authorities immediately. To answer the question; a transmission or distribution line contact to a flowing river would be very dangerous to anyone within the immediate vicinity and pose serious danger to humans and other organisms. If the system protection is adequately sized the system would trip off. If the system is ht the substantial portion of the river or lagoon would be charged and dangerous but not enough to energise the entire river. Warning do not attempt to find out by yourself. Report to the appropriate authorities. |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by NDSMELODY(m): 11:42am On May 22, 2020 |
greenmonk:tell them |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by welturebotanical: 11:47am On May 22, 2020 |
NDSMELODY: Yes... That is it |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by welturebotanical: 11:50am On May 22, 2020 |
NDSMELODY: lemme agree with the one from you 1 Like |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by petredeshyan(m): 11:52am On May 22, 2020 |
NDSMELODY:Yes, but it's the purest natural form of water |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by petredeshyan(m): 11:53am On May 22, 2020 |
welturebotanical:Chai |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by Rickmann: 12:19pm On May 22, 2020 |
iyke484real: U don't have to be an engineer to know this...its just basic knowledge . |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by Rickmann: 12:20pm On May 22, 2020 |
[quote author=iyke484real post=89816002]If a naked wire with current falls into a flowing river or lets say Lagos lagoon, will a It's dependent on some factors 1. The capacity of the said wire: bigger feeder and transmission cables carry greater amount of current that will kill any living thing that comes it's way in water including humans. 2.The mass or quantity of water may not matter in this case cos electricity travels even faster on wider surface areas. So pls don't try this at home. |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by Zane2point4(m): 12:59pm On May 22, 2020 |
NDSMELODY:Na there you lie baba Hv bn in Vietnam and china when there was heavy rain,still electricity was still unshakable. Infact in one occasion a local transformer blew, There and then under the heavy rain,with there rain coats ,the power official fixed it and restored power with the rain still on. Its just a naija factor blc of poor equipments we use here. |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by Zane2point4(m): 1:01pm On May 22, 2020 |
iyke484real:As the electron journeys to the end of the pond it blcomes weaker,meaning the closer you're to tje source of the current the heavier dose of shocking u will get,when tested with a voltameter am sure the current will decipate at a given distance. |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by Zane2point4(m): 1:08pm On May 22, 2020 |
iyke484real:As the electron journeys to the end of the pond it blcomes weaker,meaning the closer you're to the source of the current the heavier dose of shocking u will get,when tested with a voltameter am sure the current will decipate at a given distance. |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by oglalasioux(m): 1:11pm On May 22, 2020 |
femi4:t He is right. Water itself is not a conductor of electricity. It's the impurities in the water that does. |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by HyperTrends: 1:14pm On May 22, 2020 |
Ok guys let me chip in my little knowledge about this topic. As for the Conductivity of H2O(Water) it's a very good conductor of electricity, no dispute about that but in a case where live wire/conductor fell into a body of water the Current/Voltage at the immediate vicinity would be higher and can easily electrocute or at some point kill but at a far distance to the live wire the impact will be felt but not as much. So in this case the electrocution or shock would not be as severe compared to when closer to the point of the Live-wire itself. Now this is where the case of HIGH TENSION, Low Tension & Lagoon body of Water will comes in. For High Tension;The electrocution will go very far but not in the whole Lagoon due to some factors and also LARGE NUMBERS of Electrons is contained in the High Tension While for Low Tension it would not be as much as High Tension.....However the impact like little Shock could be felt at a very far distance in both CASES. Too many factors applied though. |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by fr3do(m): 1:40pm On May 22, 2020 |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by Goldeno(m): 1:41pm On May 22, 2020 |
If the naked wire is a 'service main' wire the yes it will electrocute, because this wires transmit 11000volt or 33000volt which is very high we only use 220volt for our homes 412volts for factories with huge machines , and these can take any one out |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by softy(m): 1:52pm On May 22, 2020 |
welturebotanical: Are you an Electrical Engineer? |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by Nobody: 2:34pm On May 22, 2020 |
I think it depends on the voltage,most likely things close to the naked wire would get electrocuted not the entire mass of water,except the voltage is quite large.My thought |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by Soneh(m): 2:54pm On May 22, 2020 |
welturebotanical:That's not true . Fuse has no role to play in stepping down of power. The only thing a fuse does is it cuts when the power being sent into the house exceeds the rating of the fuse. The job of stepping down the voltage is usually done by the transformer. 1 Like |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by NDSMELODY(m): 3:08pm On May 22, 2020 |
Zane2point4:you have judge yourself from ur last paragraph,i rest my case |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by welturebotanical: 3:09pm On May 22, 2020 |
Soneh: U just said something similar, am not an engineer I may not get the terms but I understand the way some of this things work |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by NDSMELODY(m): 3:12pm On May 22, 2020 |
HyperTrends:tell them |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by Bigseven(m): 3:22pm On May 22, 2020 |
You mean if high voltage cable fall in part of atlantic ocean, all the countries that share the boundaries are vulnerable to been electrocuted? OP. Look at how lock down affect your thoughts ![]() |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by dinodesmond(m): 3:25pm On May 22, 2020 |
Soneh: Very correct. The fuse is just used to block werey current that is coming from werey phcn so that home appliances connected to that fuse don't get burnt. The fuse is made of a wire that can comfortably stand 13ampere or less and anything more will cause the wire to melt and cut and so that anything connected to it will not get burnt. The transformer takes care of stepping down high current from high tension wires to the taste of our home appliances so that they can run and function fine in our homes. Stepping up too is part of the work. |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by Zane2point4(m): 3:35pm On May 22, 2020 |
NDSMELODY:It blew not blc of lightening nor thunder,from the assessment they left,the wind cross tied two lines together. 1 Like |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by Uyi168: 3:39pm On May 22, 2020 |
femi4:.. Pure water is a poor conductor of electricity.. The impurities in it are what enhances its for conductivity.. |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by Nobody: 3:54pm On May 22, 2020 |
water is a bad conductor of electricity,so the closest place in the water near the wire would likely shock but not the whole river or lagoon. |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by Loris576(m): 4:34pm On May 22, 2020 |
NDSMELODY:How ? |
Re: Engineers In The House Please See If You Can Settle This Argument For Us by Nickshrapnel: 5:12pm On May 22, 2020 |
If for instance I use 1 liters of fuel on a 4 KVA power generator for 2hours while using my TV, freezer, bulbs, fan etc would the same amount of fuel be used if I only use 1 bulb for the same time? |
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