WB fvcking with us!!


Can we get the Ayer cut? It's completed tho. I don't see the need of it Sha.

abduleez1:


It was a pretty slow burn, I almost got tired of it. it eventually came alive at the tail end— last 3 episodes.
But it didn't get much publicity and hype except for the fact of the big leads Orlando Bloom and Cara Delevigne. Most people didn't even talk about it in the series thread.

Yep, I know of the BIG budget LOTR series Coming to Amazon, honestly I can't wait for it. They paid really huge sum to gain rights to the IP.

DIDN'T know Man in High Castle was that big.

I was also disappointed with that Carnival Row...the series was all talks and no action. So much for the hype!!!

Yeah, Man in the High Castle was a big one for Amazon, brought in a lot of subscribers for them, and the series lived up to expectations.

Minemrys:

u kn0w why i hate series? Alot of it are filler. They over stretch stories that are unimp0rtant and atimes seas0ns eg the walking dead. S0metimes the writerz get c0nfused down the line.

We share same dislike @bolded.

However, i don't watch series longer than 10-13 episodes. There are exceptions though, like Viking's and Supernatural, but i stopped watching Supernatural too at some point cuz of same issue.

Series from HBO, NETFLIX, BBC, FX, STARZ, SYFY, EPIC, CINEMAX, AMAZON, HULU, are mostly 6 - 10 episodes most of the time.
I think it's mostly NBC, FOX, CW and ABC Studio's that overstretch series unnecessarily.

abduleez1:


Nope I don't buy that idea.
There are various and numerous comic characters and various level of importance and popularity. Some don't belong in the small screen, while some are definitely well suited for the Big screen.
Characters like Uxas you don't really need a tv series character development style to know what he basically IS. Same for Supes, Batman, Flash, Wonder Woman etc.

Being a theater film doesn't really translate to poorer character devt, it all depends on the writing, direction and portrayal. Besides for character devt that's why you got sequels or prequels to handle that.

The public reach of Big screen release is also far greater than series. Also profitability on big screen has many positive potentials over series.

Are you saying that Darkseids backstory cannot be developed on the small screen for an eventual Box Office big budget movie?

My point here is, there is nothing stopping DC from doing a mini-series/full series on him this year before they release a big budget movie in the cinema with him as the big baddie... it's exactly what Marvel did with Thanos, but they did it with 20 movies instead.
It's same principle, just different execution. Not everyone reads comics, and so not everyone will understand comics movies in the same way.
Take a look at Green Arrow for instance. He became a household name here in Nigeria through a series...

abduleez1:


Not really. It's just teasing I guess since Snyder is getting His.Besides there's Suicide Squad movie coming which will retcon previous movie with a soft reboot.

He has been asking for his cut release mostly cos of the backlash his film received from critics and fans alike. And the fact that WB butchered his vision with their micromanaging.

I hear the peeps who were actively against the Snyder Cut releasing are out of WB. Hence the new exec has more peeps who wants the cut released. I'm liking this new CEO Ann Sarnoff. And Kevin Tsujihara can go fvck himself, he really destroyed us bad. By This year we should have had Flash and Cyborg by now, prepping for Green Lantern.

Isn't Walter Hamada the new head of DC? Honestly I'll like all the big wigs in charge of important decisions and influence involved in the bumpy road of DC's first 5 films to be sacked or demoted. Except prolly the likes of Geoff Johns remaining in the creative department. I'd like for James Wan to have a bigger role in DCEU.

dude, kevin tsujihara really killed the dceu. Na the guy request for 0ne hour justice league film. It was under him we kept hearing things like resh0ots i.e bvs, suicide squad, jl. His management was so undecided. Geoff johns also played a part in undermining snyder's visi0n. They really messed things to the extent the dceu was faceless. We didn't kn0w which angle it was facing. Was it trying to be realistic? Marvel like or a mix of light and dark. Tsujihara's management was so undecided. Had it been decided, they'd have kn0wn whether to go with snyder or dump him if they didn't like his visi0n. How many times did directors walk out of the flash? It made me w0nder if at the incepti0n, these direct0rs never signed a c0ntract or table their ideas b4 tsujihara's management employed them. N0w u can tell the difference since after then, no direct0r has walked out. For a studio head, tsujihara was so undecided. Remember king arthur legend of the sword also suffered same fate of resh0ots with the film b0mbing and being bashed? That was under Kevin tsujihara.

abduleez1:
This is why Black Adam is my most anticipated DC movie of 2021.....

I already suspected this after Black Adam confirmed some JSA members in it. Since Justice League wasn't successful, we should get this alternative.

to be h0nest, we should have gotten a jsa film a l0ng time ago but hey, we got birds of prey. Yatsy! That's why a part of me wants a clean slate where wb can really start again.

abduleez1:
WB fvcking with us!!


Can we get the Ayer cut? It's completed tho. I don't see the need of it Sha.

No pls.

philfearon:


We share same dislike @bolded.

However, i don't watch series longer than 10-13 episodes. There are exceptions though, like Viking's and Supernatural, but i stopped watching Supernatural too at some point cuz of same issue.

Series from HBO, NETFLIX, BBC, FX, STARZ, SYFY, EPIC, CINEMAX, AMAZON, HULU, are mostly 6 - 10 episodes most of the time.
I think it's mostly NBC, FOX, CW and ABC Studio's that overstretch series unnecessarily.

to me, the perfect number for a series to c0mplete its arc is 8 seas0ns of a 10episode run. Cos to be h0nest, the other epis0des are fillers that s0on bec0me plotholes. That's why i love how to get away with murder.

philfearon:

Are you saying that Darkseids backstory cannot be developed on the small screen for an eventual Box Office big budget movie?

My point here is, there is nothing stopping DC from doing a mini-series/full series on him this year before they release a big budget movie in the cinema with him as the big baddie... it's exactly what Marvel did with Thanos, but they did it with 20 movies instead.
It's same principle, just different execution. Not everyone reads comics, and so not everyone will understand comics movies in the same way.
Take a look at Green Arrow for instance. He became a household name here in Nigeria through a series...

bros, what story do u want to tell about Uxas in a series? His love life, family or what? U can do this in a 2 hour story bro. Do u kn0w why inhumans failed as a series? Cos s0me stories aren't meant to be stretched.

Minemrys:

dude, n0lan would find a way to do seas0n 1 of GOT in 2 hours. It's abt kn0wing what u want to tell, how to tell it and achieve it. GOT was fr0m a b0ok, guy. And u are telling me N0lan can't adapt a b0ok into a 2hour film? He did incepti0n that had many characterz in it and was able to tell a story. How abt TDK. Lord of the rings is one film i find unnecessarily l0ng and would've benefitd fr0m a 2hr run time..

Nolan is good, but bro, you are overrating him.
If Peter Jackson can't do LoTR in 2hours, I don't see how Nolan will do that.
For me, Peter Jackson is way better than Christopher Nolan. Just my opinion.

TheKingIsHere:

Wow...pretty cool....
Crown it up with the latest dc animation

I am currently watching apokolips war, make sense so far. I downloaded stargirl episode 1, i hope it makes sense.

I'm sincerely hoping that this synder cut will worth it in the end because if it doesn't, it will be one gigantic shiit storm.

I just thinking that the movie is what 3 years old now, and some of the scenes were reshot which means that the movie basically told a different story to Zack's story. For me I would prefer WB focus on the future which is looking promising now and rebuild DCEU.

Minemrys:

to be h0nest, we should have gotten a jsa film a l0ng time ago but hey, we got birds of prey. Yatsy! That's why a part of me wants a clean slate where wb can really start again.

I swear. I don't know why it took so long. I hope it's coming 2023/4 will be very pivotal for the DCEU. It's prolly gonna be our next phase.

If it comes out same period around New Gods I go faint. DC has been lacking big powerhouses for a long time.
Justice League that we hoped for got fvcked by that Tsuji guy. Imagine 3hr30mins you cut am to 1hr57, chai.

Probably the same reason many fans were opposed to Birds of Prey and didn't support hence it bombed.
At least we can hope for the upcoming Flash wipe the slate clean for us with Flashpoint.

Minemrys:

to me, the perfect number for a series to c0mplete its arc is 8 seas0ns of a 10episode run. Cos to be h0nest, the other epis0des are fillers that s0on bec0me plotholes. That's why i love how to get away with murder.

That's how I love mine too, if it's a top notch show.

philfearon:

Are you saying that Darkseids backstory cannot be developed on the small screen for an eventual Box Office big budget movie?

My point here is, there is nothing stopping DC from doing a mini-series/full series on him this year before they release a big budget movie in the cinema with him as the big baddie... it's exactly what Marvel did with Thanos, but they did it with 20 movies instead.
.

I'm not saying that but honestly using Darkseid in tv would be inefficient and underused.

For the backstory and devt of Darkseid's backstory, that's the reason we are getting NEW GODS. It's to be directed by Ava Duvernay. We are putting some real good confidence in female Directors— I like it.

After New Gods have been introduced on the Big screen, sequels would prep for a big Event movie, probably under the Justice League banner.

Minemrys:

dude, kevin tsujihara really killed the dceu. Na the guy request for 0ne hour justice league film. It was under him we kept hearing things like resh0ots i.e bvs, suicide squad, jl. His management was so undecided. Geoff johns also played a part in undermining snyder's visi0n. They really messed things to the extent the dceu was faceless. We didn't kn0w which angle it was facing. Was it trying to be realistic? Marvel like or a mix of light and dark. Tsujihara's management was so undecided. Had it been decided, they'd have kn0wn whether to go with snyder or dump him if they didn't like his visi0n. How many times did directors walk out of the flash? It made me w0nder if at the incepti0n, these direct0rs never signed a c0ntract or table their ideas b4 tsujihara's management employed them. N0w u can tell the difference since after then, no direct0r has walked out. For a studio head, tsujihara was so undecided. Remember king arthur legend of the sword also suffered same fate of resh0ots with the film b0mbing and being bashed? That was under Kevin tsujihara.

I swear that guy na bad NEWS.
Yep I know of Johns role in it, that's why I said he should remain in his creative department producing and formulating good stories for adaptation not giving him an executive Producer role. He wanted to control everyone back then.

I even hear say them politely pursue am comot for Joker planning room during development. The Gee wan turn super Producer like Feige.

That's why I'm loving the full takeover of WB by AT&T and the appointment of Ann Sarnoff as CEO. Even the DC and HBOMAX collaboration is pretty good and ingenious. Numerous DC projects on deck. The next five years will be eventful and DC choked full of content and options.

HBOMax DC lineup is probably the most exciting ambitious project so far and sub banner of DC. It will be pretty competing with the main DCEU, dominating the likes of DC Universe and CW. Projects such as Justice League Dark and Green Lantern gives me joy.

abduleez1:


I'm not saying that but honestly using Darkseid in tv would be inefficient and underused.

For the backstory and devt of Darkseid's backstory, that's the reason we are getting NEW GODS. It's to be directed by Ava Duvernay. We are putting some real good confidence in female Directors— I like it.

After New Gods have been introduced on the Big screen, sequels would prep for a big Event movie, probably under the Justice League banner.

That's a good development which I already applauded in the past.

Remember however, that i only used him as an example.

Minemrys:

bros, what story do u want to tell about Uxas in a series? His love life, family or what? U can do this in a 2 hour story bro. Do u kn0w why inhumans failed as a series? Cos s0me stories aren't meant to be stretched.

No, inhumans failed because it was a shïtshow. Eew, have you watched the show?
From graphics to VFX to characteristion to choice of location were absolute garbage biko. I Stopped watching it after the first episode!

Dare-Devil failed as a big budget movie but succeeded as one of the best comics TV series ever produced.
So guy forget, it doesn't matter if it's on Cinema or small screen, a good film sells itself. What decides everything is the money to be made.

Green Lantern is coming to TV.

Minemrys:

to me, the perfect number for a series to c0mplete its arc is 8 seas0ns of a 10episode run. Cos to be h0nest, the other epis0des are fillers that s0on bec0me plotholes. That's why i love how to get away with murder.

Lol.... How to get away with murder. Started out well, then turned to bunkers.

abduleez1:


Nope I don't buy that idea.
There are various and numerous comic characters and various level of importance and popularity. Some don't belong in the small screen, while some are definitely well suited for the Big screen.
Characters like Uxas you don't really need a tv series character development style to know what he basically IS. Same for Supes, Batman, Flash, Wonder Woman etc.

Being a theater film doesn't really translate to poorer character devt, it all depends on the writing, direction and portrayal. Besides for character devt that's why you got sequels or prequels to handle that.

The public reach of Big screen release is also far greater than series. Also profitability on big screen has many positive potentials over series.

Guy, Warner Bros still makes $1billion a year from the series "Friends" which ended 15yrs ago.
The casts of the show still earn an estimated $20m every year from the shows reruns and Licensing agreement.

Please, know your facts before talking about profitability.

SMUAG:


Nolan is good, but bro, you are overrating him.
If Peter Jackson can't do LoTR in 2hours, I don't see how Nolan will do that.
For me, Peter Jackson is way better than Christopher Nolan. Just my opinion.

Both are good, infact extremely good.
Together with James Cameron, they are Hollywood's Holy Trinity. They never go wrong with their interpretation of movies.

philfearon:

Both are good, infact extremely good.
Together with James Cameron, they are Hollywood's Holy Trinity. They never go wrong with their interpretation of movies.

Yes... James Cameron, the godfather of them all.
for me, I don't really care about Steven Spielberg's movies at all.

philfearon:

Lol.... How to get away with murder. Started out well, then turned to bunkers.

bunkerz? Nah. It evolved al0ng with its characterz. Every0ne was developed. It all made sense.

philfearon:

No, inhumans failed because it was a shïtshow. Eew, have you watched the show?
From graphics to VFX to characteristion to choice of location were absolute garbage biko. I Stopped watching it after the first episode!

Dare-Devil failed as a big budget movie but succeeded as one of the best comics TV series ever produced.
So guy forget, it doesn't matter if it's on Cinema or small screen, a good film sells itself. What decides everything is the money to be made.

Green Lantern is coming to TV.

dude, there are stories that d0n't work out well as series. I mean, what were they hoping to tell with inhumans? Same with a darkseid show. You'd run out of stories eventually and start filling it with fillers. Dare devil failed cos of the script and directi0n.

abduleez1:


I swear that guy na bad NEWS.
Yep I know of Johns role in it, that's why I said he should remain in his creative department producing and formulating good stories for adaptation not giving him an executive Producer role. He wanted to control everyone back then.

I even hear say them politely pursue am comot for Joker planning room during development. The Gee wan turn super Producer like Feige.

That's why I'm loving the full takeover of WB by AT&T and the appointment of Ann Sarnoff as CEO. Even the DC and HBOMAX collaboration is pretty good and ingenious. Numerous DC projects on deck. The next five years will be eventful and DC choked full of content and options.

HBOMax DC lineup is probably the most exciting ambitious project so far and sub banner of DC. It will be pretty competing with the main DCEU, dominating the likes of DC Universe and CW. Projects such as Justice League Dark and Green Lantern gives me joy.

i am h0ping their c0ntents d0n't bec0me trash cos am sure they'd want to stretch the series to death. Like titans for example. The show lost directi0n in seas0n 2. I'd be happy with a well planned show that has a limit and an ending.

Emmynator:

I am currently watching apokolips war, make sense so far.
I downloaded stargirl episode 1, i hope it makes sense.

Stargirl is good. I highly recommend it

abduleez1:


Not really. It's just teasing I guess since Snyder is getting His.Besides there's Suicide Squad movie coming which will retcon previous movie with a soft reboot.

He has been asking for his cut release mostly cos of the backlash his film received from critics and fans alike. And the fact that WB butchered his vision with their micromanaging.

I hear the peeps who were actively against the Snyder Cut releasing are out of WB. Hence the new exec has more peeps who wants the cut released. I'm liking this new CEO Ann Sarnoff. And Kevin Tsujihara can go fvck himself, he really destroyed us bad. By This year we should have had Flash and Cyborg by now, prepping for Green Lantern.

Isn't Walter Hamada the new head of DC? Honestly I'll like all the big wigs in charge of important decisions and influence involved in the bumpy road of DC's first 5 films to be sacked or demoted. Except prolly the likes of Geoff Johns remaining in the creative department. I'd like for James Wan to have a bigger role in DCEU.

Lol,

The Ayer cut is coming soon.

Trust me, my sources are legit

Minemrys:

n0t necessary. It would affect james gunn's versi0n. M0reover, there isn't any point in it.

Not it won't.

What it means now is that Jared Leto is still likely to play Joker at some point

abduleez1:


I'm not saying that but honestly using Darkseid in tv would be inefficient and underused.

For the backstory and devt of Darkseid's backstory, that's the reason we are getting NEW GODS. It's to be directed by Ava Duvernay. We are putting some real good confidence in female Directors— I like it.

After New Gods have been introduced on the Big screen, sequels would prep for a big Event movie, probably under the Justice League banner.

i agree with this.

Snyder should leave out Almighty Darkseid from the cut and allow Ava do her thing.

However, if darseid doesnt appear much in the snyder cut, then its okay and Ava can do a proper character development with new gods.

**My thoughts**

abduleez1:


I swear. I don't know why it took so long. I hope it's coming 2023/4 will be very pivotal for the DCEU. It's prolly gonna be our next phase.

If it comes out same period around New Gods I go faint. DC has been lacking big powerhouses for a long time.
Justice League that we hoped for got fvcked by that Tsuji guy. Imagine 3hr30mins you cut am to 1hr57, chai.

Probably the same reason many fans were opposed to Birds of Prey and didn't support hence it bombed.
At least we can hope for the upcoming Flash wipe the slate clean for us with Flashpoint.

i'd be happy if they d0n't go straight into flashpoint. I want them to be creative. C0me up with the blackest night storyline and at the end, have flash run back to change things. Na only God kn0w how that 1 hour justice league film dy pain me when i first hear am. As in, Tsujihara even defended the idea. In his opini0n JL would make quick m0ney in theatres if it was an hour plus. Then endgame came and showed wb that, hello, if u have a g0od film, people would want to watch no matter how l0ng it is. I am surprised they never learnt their less0ns with bvs and suicide squad. A 0ne hour justice league film. And people on here kept insulting snyder and praising wb.

abduleez1:


I swear that guy na bad NEWS.
Yep I know of Johns role in it, that's why I said he should remain in his creative department producing and formulating good stories for adaptation not giving him an executive Producer role. He wanted to control everyone back then.

I even hear say them politely pursue am comot for Joker planning room during development. The Gee wan turn super Producer like Feige.

That's why I'm loving the full takeover of WB by AT&T and the appointment of Ann Sarnoff as CEO. Even the DC and HBOMAX collaboration is pretty good and ingenious. Numerous DC projects on deck. The next five years will be eventful and DC choked full of content and options.

HBOMax DC lineup is probably the most exciting ambitious project so far and sub banner of DC. It will be pretty competing with the main DCEU, dominating the likes of DC Universe and CW. Projects such as Justice League Dark and Green Lantern gives me joy.

Well said

SMUAG:


Nolan is good, but bro, you are overrating him.
If Peter Jackson can't do LoTR in 2hours, I don't see how Nolan will do that.
For me, Peter Jackson is way better than Christopher Nolan. Just my opinion.

u see one thing eh. There are lots of scenes in LOTR that shouldn't have been in the theatrical cut. I mean, lots of scenes had characterz strolling, walking, with new zealand locati0ns being advertised. S0me scenes were pr0l0nged than it needed to be. I slept throughout and yet the film didn't interest me. N0lan would've shortened s0me dialogue, found ways to tell s0me sub plots without the run time reaching 4 hours. Like, n0lan uses imageries lots of time than forcing unnecessary dialogues.