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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 5:33pm On May 22, 2020
odizeey:
Only 8 players have won the World Cup, Champions League and Ballon d'Or:

• Ronaldinho
• Zidane
• Kaká
• Rivaldo
• Gerd Müller
• Beckenbauer
• Bobby Charlton
• Paolo Rossi

I'm looking for a Chelsea legend. Oh, they're a new generation ministry grin

When did Bobby Charlton win UCL?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 5:45pm On May 22, 2020
nihilistjnr:


When did Bobby Charlton win UCL?

Champions league na European Cup wen receive new birth na.
That's what we call regeneration.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by biomustry: 5:54pm On May 22, 2020
obainojazz:
My own is that, don't these politicians travel abroad and see how things are done. Baba has traveled the globe, the governors and ministers have all gone abroad to witness how things work but they all chose to be stupid. How hard is it to better the lives of your citizens.. they get to power and only want to secure their pockets and the future of their children.
My friend in China has been saying this, their own problem no be to construct roads, na to dey wash roads grin grin grin
Our leaders are heartless
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 6:08pm On May 22, 2020
odizeey:


Champions league na European Cup wen receive new birth na.
That's what we call regeneration.

Did they write UCL on his medal?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 6:12pm On May 22, 2020
nihilistjnr:


Did they write UCL on his medal?
Type in google, "man utd champions league titles" grin

I don't need an argument.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 6:13pm On May 22, 2020
odizeey:

Type in google, "man utd champions league titles" grin

I don't need an argument.

That's not what I asked you sir.

What is the name of the competition printed on Charlton's medal? Is it UCL?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 6:15pm On May 22, 2020
larride:


How are they going to checkmate him?
I'm not sure I'm paid to think up a solution for Rivers state. They have the house of assemblies and judiciary. They have human right groups there. There are social media warriors to tackle him and put him in check. Wike is aggressive There are 36 states in Nigeria. Is Wike's state the only one you're afraid for?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 6:16pm On May 22, 2020
ToyinDipo:
Community policing can hardly be good solution in a country like Nigeria.
He who pays the piper dictates the tune, this is a place where neither the piper payer nor piper has guaranteed good intentions
Then people shouldn't complain when the bulk of the problem is dumped at aso rock.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 6:19pm On May 22, 2020
nihilistjnr:


That's not what I asked you sir.

What is the name of the competition printed on Charlton's medal? Is it UCL?
All these shalaye because una legend no dey. cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 6:20pm On May 22, 2020
nihilistjnr:


That's not what I asked you sir.

What is the name of the competition printed on Charlton's medal? Is it UCL?

This same argument can be used for Paolo Rossi, Der Kaiser, and Gerd Muller.

Why the focus on Charlton?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 6:21pm On May 22, 2020
odizeey:

All these shalaye because una legend no dey. cheesy

Na you don dey shalaye since

Simple yes or no. Did they write UCL in Charlton's medal?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 6:21pm On May 22, 2020
afrodoc2:


This same argument can be used for Paolo Rossi, Der Kaiser, and Gerd Muller.

Why the focus on Charlton?

Well did they write UCL on their medals?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 6:23pm On May 22, 2020
nihilistjnr:


Na you don dey shalaye since

Simple yes or no. Did they write UCL in Charlton's medal?

No, na you binu say your men no dey.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 6:25pm On May 22, 2020
eph12:

I'm not sure I'm paid to think up a solution for Rivers state. They have the house of assemblies and judiciary. They have human right groups there. There are social media warriors to tackle him and put him in check. Wike is aggressive There are 36 states in Nigeria. Is Wike's state the only one you're afraid for?

Why are you being unnecessarily defensive tho? grin It’s an open discussion on which way you think our policing should be structured. Wike was just used as an example of State Govenors rascality.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 6:27pm On May 22, 2020
raumdeuter:


Can we say any of these guys the entire top 10 was a success in their time till date
Hahahaha obviously not
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 6:27pm On May 22, 2020
nihilistjnr:


Well did they write UCL on their medals?

To avoid any argument let us watch this clip from the final showing Charlton scoring 2 goals en route to victory. Hopefully there is a close up of the medals. grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCId9ChW9PQ

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ToyinDipo(m): 6:37pm On May 22, 2020
eph12:

Then people shouldn't complain when the bulk of the problem is dumped at aso rock.
Like it was stated here, the problem of Nigeria is not the leaders, but the Nigerians from whom a fraction of them becomes part of the leaders.

If you grant power to an average Nigerian he will misappropriate it, which is likely going to happen with community policing.
My own gross in all these, is that no one should make a non-performing government seem like not.
A party that can't even put itself in order, and a president who can't put his family in order.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 6:38pm On May 22, 2020
obainojazz:
Chelsea will call United Maga United because we bought players 70m... But when you calculate all these 30 and 40 m wastes grin you know the maga
Na to show them this list make them jot fings down
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 6:43pm On May 22, 2020
afrodoc2:


To avoid any argument let us watch this clip from the final showing Charlton scoring 2 goals en route to victory. Hopefully there is a close up of the medals. grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCId9ChW9PQ
cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 6:43pm On May 22, 2020
afrodoc2:


To avoid any argument let us watch this clip from the final showing Charlton scoring 2 goals en route to victory. Hopefully there is a close up of the medals. grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCId9ChW9PQ

Honestly I still don't understand how people rate footballers that played in this Era at per or even higher than some great players we have now.

I mean watching this match, it gives a vibe of two Ajebutter private schools playing against each other. See each of the teams when defending allowing the offensive team as much space as they need ....They even allow the ball to bounce around when passing or controlling the ball grin. The ball is just too loosely played around.

Sincerely I don’t rate the football they play during those era higher than what we have now

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 6:45pm On May 22, 2020
BlueRayDick:


Honestly I still don't understand how people rate footballers that played in this Era at per or even higher than some great players we have now.

I mean watching this match, it gives a vibe of two Ajebutter private schools playing against each other. See each of the teams when defending allowing the offensive team as much space as they need ....They even allow the ball to bounce around when passing or controlling the ball grin. The ball is just too loosely played around.

Sincerely I don’t rate the football they play during those era higher than what we have now
Na the screen o. No allow am deceive you o. grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 6:48pm On May 22, 2020
odizeey:

Na the screen o. No allow am deceive you o. grin

Which yeye screen grin. It's funny how they keep juggling the ball, raising it once or twice above the ground before passing the ball
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 6:48pm On May 22, 2020
larride:


Why are you being unnecessarily defensive tho? grin It’s an open discussion on which way you think our policing should be structured. Wike was just used as an example of State Govenors rascality.
And I have responded abi? There will always be one reason or the other why something will not work. It's never going to be easy. There are some things we will have to face head on sooner than later. State policing is one of them.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 6:53pm On May 22, 2020
BlueRayDick:


Honestly I still don't understand how people rate footballers that played in this Era at per or even higher than some great players we have now.

I mean watching this match, it gives a vibe of two Ajebutter private schools playing against each other. See each of the teams when defending allowing the offensive team as much space as they need ....They even allow the ball to bounce around when passing or controlling the ball grin. The ball is just too loosely played around.

Sincerely I don’t rate the football they play during those era higher than what we have now



The general level of football is not higher than now. I don't think anybody would argue otherwise.

Advances in training, diet, medicine, ball technology, pitch quality means players will continue to get better.

With regards to comparing great players from different eras, it is more about comparing how dominant each player was in his era and trying to assess how they would do against each other if they all had the same environmental factors.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 6:56pm On May 22, 2020
ToyinDipo:

Like it was stated here, the problem of Nigeria is not the leaders, but the Nigerians from whom a fraction of them becomes part of the leaders.

If you grant power to an average Nigerian he will misappropriate it, which is likely going to happen with community policing.
My own gross in all these, is that no one should make a non-performing government seem like not.
A party that can't even put itself in order, and a president who can't put his family in order.
What we should be trying to do is strengthen the system. A strengthened system will prevent abuse of power
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 7:08pm On May 22, 2020
afrodoc2:
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The general level of football is not higher than now. I don't think anybody would argue otherwise.

Advances in training, diet, medicine, ball technology, pitch quality means players will continue to get better.

With regards to comparing great players from different eras, it is more about comparing how dominant each player was in his era and trying to assess how they would do against each other if they all had the same environmental factors.



I agree with this. What I just don't get is when people say the same defenders we see in these old clips will stop some of the today's attacks like Messi, Ronaldo and others...when in fact the defenders of nowadays who have also benefited from the advancement in training, sports medicine etc cannot do the stopping.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 7:15pm On May 22, 2020
BlueRayDick:


Which yeye screen grin. It's funny how they keep juggling the ball, raising it once or twice above the ground before passing the ball
Ball big. Field no good. Go and play beach soccer first. cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Plantainandpap: 7:20pm On May 22, 2020
cheesy cheesy I'm back, Who missed me
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ToyinDipo(m): 7:27pm On May 22, 2020
eph12:

What we should be trying to do is strengthen the system. A strengthened system will prevent abuse of power
True that
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 7:30pm On May 22, 2020
BlueRayDick:


I agree with this. What I just don't get is when people say the same defenders we see in these old clips will stop some of the today's attacks like Messi, Ronaldo and others...when in fact the defenders of nowadays who have also benefited from the advancement in training, sports medicine etc cannot do the stopping.

The great defenders are mainly from the 80s and 90s i.e Scirea, Baresi, Bregomi, Sammer, Maldini etc with a few additions from the 70s. I can't think of a single universally accepted all time great defender who stopped playing before 1970.

One thing you have to remember though is that football ability is not all about athletic ability. Being faster and stronger does not automatically make someone a better defender.
Studying the game, maintaining focus, working on your craft everyday (rather than being on social media) are also important, and those guys did these things more.
Defending now is not as good as 2 decades ago because of rule changes but also because it is not as fashionable and players just don't work on it as much.

There is no central defender playing now who is near Scirea, Baresi, Beckenbauer level. Take Baresi (who i have always believed was the greatest) for example. His record in finals shows a lot of clean sheets and single goals conceded, compared to others who played in his era AND the so called great defenders of these days who win finals 4-3.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 7:36pm On May 22, 2020
eph12:

And I have responded abi? There will always be one reason or the other why something will not work. It's never going to be easy. There are some things we will have to face head on sooner than later. State policing is one of them.

Of course, I am in support of community policing. There has to be an arrangement that works. We can still have a federal police like the FBI while states take charge of their respective internal security through the local government.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 7:37pm On May 22, 2020
afrodoc2:
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The general level of football is not higher than now. I don't think anybody would argue otherwise.

Advances in training, diet, medicine, ball technology, pitch quality means players will continue to get better.

With regards to comparing great players from different eras, it is more about comparing how dominant each player was in his era and trying to assess how they would do against each other if they all had the same environmental factors.


exactly. The Messis, Ronaldos and Hazards etcs will still dominate in that era just like those ones in that era that dominated will still dominated in this same era. All that is needed is the talent and work.


I enjoyed the video, though. The match was very interesting and intriguing.

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