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Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by duwdu: 12:02pm On May 23, 2020
Clevite:

If Buhari didn't intervene then because he wanted to be re-elected, you think that he would be interested now that he has nothing at stake?

See, Buhari's intervention or no intervention is not a matter of being re-elected. It is just his nature. Buhari has shown since 2015 that when it comes to party politicking, he is taciturn, indifferent, detached and aloof. He doesn't care. If he do, he would have intervened in Obaseki-Oshiomole's fisticuffs from onset; not just now.

It took the prevailing of APC Governors on him before he showed any sign of intervention in the crisis that ensued during the attempts to remove Oshiomole as Party Chairman.

My thinking and sentiments, exactly. Meanwhile, some people never recognize that some charlatans simply know how to drop names - Buhari's especially - in the current political dispensation. Thanks for posting.

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Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by Jostoman: 12:08pm On May 23, 2020
senatordave1:


Aisha likes bello plus bello begged tinubu.
ok Sir
Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by Charly68: 12:17pm On May 23, 2020
Clevite:
This is expected. No one should expect Obaseki to go easy. Even if he is going down eventually, he is not going down easy. Obaseki is going to fight it dirty.
And you think he is fighting in the right direction..?

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Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by Charly68: 12:20pm On May 23, 2020
Obaseki! Let's see if his bulldozer will be able to bring down the power players that gather against him in his state...the fight will be tough because these men have been in the game before him

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Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by duwdu: 12:45pm On May 23, 2020
Clevite:

As if you were not on this planet then, Saraki's Senate was an opposition within the ruling Party's Government. Virtually every policy of Buhari's APC-led government received the stiffest opposition it couldn't have received if it was a Senate headed and dominated by opposition party.

During Saraki's reign, he did not only collaborate with the opposition by having one of them as his Deputy, he gave a solid backing to PDP in the National Assembly so much that opposition had a free reign, despite being the minority, countering almost every policy of the Executive, whether it was in the interest of the country or not.

Under Saraki, many legislators from the ruling party became an opposition against the Party that produced them. They were galvanized by Saraki to go against the interests of the APC-led Executive. In fact, they even threatened to impeach the President at some point on flimsy grounds.

No ruling party since the advent of democracy had had it so rough under their own Senate President as APC had under Saraki. In short, under Saraki, the ruling party became an opposition and the opposition became the ruling party in the National Assembly.

This is reference material, and you're even totally decent in your way of making these points.

In the same vein, you've avoided having to drag in those issues some observers considered showcased even the more treacherous nature of Bukola Saraki. Those things, in fact, made Saraki's disgraceful loss in his bid to return to the Senate such sweet music to the ears of both the hierarchy and membership of his now erstwhile party, the APC!

Every treachery should have consequences.

'Nuf said.

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Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by FuckAllTheMODs: 12:46pm On May 23, 2020
seanfer:


The party deputy chairman is complaining about the the party national secretary and not the mode of primary. Obaseki is gone as far as the primary is concerned.


Read what you typed again and quickly go online to check if it is correct.
Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by Mcreloaded(m): 12:46pm On May 23, 2020
ramatintin:
obaseki doing well please in what area cos I haven't felt his impact in Edo state
He has refused agbero to come back . If that's only what he has done I am very ok with that.

I hate agberos vehemently

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Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by Mraphel: 12:48pm On May 23, 2020
signature2012:


Obaseki isn't a coward like Ambode...This dude got balls.
GEJ your hero was not a coward?

Atiku your hero wasn't a coward..

Peter Obi was na coward

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Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by FuckAllTheMODs: 12:51pm On May 23, 2020
senatordave1:


Am not too sure but when it comes to primaries,the nwc sets up a committee to conduct the primaries,declare results and sunlit to the nwc.so you see that the law is heavily on their side.zamfara was lost because the nwc was not involved and the state chapter conducted it alone.

The primary mode will only favor the most popular and accepted candidate among the local party members or will members that registered in other states be eligible to vote?...
Irregularities will come up and this will throw the game open.
The game is deep...
Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by akdjr(m): 1:02pm On May 23, 2020
Na so una push Ambode till he was voted out.
Hisxellency:
Even if obaseki didn't emerge victorious after these whole thing.. At least he stood his grounds as a man!
A man with balls

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Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by duwdu: 1:04pm On May 23, 2020
seanfer:


You got it wrong. What happened in Rivers and Zamfara is that there are 2 parallel congresses to vote the state excos. In the case of Edo the NWC has choose direct primary for the governorship election. If Obaseki like he should boycott the direct primary and organize his own election INEC will not accept his name. The amended electoral law gave the NWC power to choose the mode of primary and also so submit the candidates names to INEC.

Whoa... If the sentence I've put in bold characters is a fact, then Oshiomhole has scored a home run against Obaseki, pure and simple; in other words, Obaseki is most probably a goner politically, methinks.

But hey, what do I know, right?

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Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by dahnimoh(m): 1:10pm On May 23, 2020
OK

Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by cnandy: 1:36pm On May 23, 2020
#AccessbankPayUsOurEntitlement @HerbertOWigwe you went around sharing food to Nigerians where as over 1000 staff you sacked @myaccessbank are begging for food. Charity begins at home. Access bank pay our benefit. @TheYouthNigeri1 @SenNgige @SenatorAbaribe
Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by Nobody: 2:01pm On May 23, 2020
abbey37:
The question to be asked here is why is Obaseki scared of a direct primary if his claims to be very popular amongst the party member is right?
Gbam! Exactly my thoughts too.. If you're very sure of your popularity, you won't mind the mode of primaries used.

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Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by seanfer(m): 2:08pm On May 23, 2020
pineed:

Gbam! Exactly my thoughts too.. If you're very sure of your popularity, you won't mind the mode of primaries used.

Google the party constitution. Section 13 sub section vii point clear that the NWC will organize the primary election for President, Governors, National and state Assembly elections. Obaseki is gone.

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Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by Clevite(m): 2:28pm On May 23, 2020
duwdu:


Good thinking. In fact, truer words have never been spoken about the serially nonchalant Buhari. I honestly feel that the man Buhari thinks that, by letting everyone do what they like, he's being non-dictatorial and is now wearing the toga of a democrat, lol.

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Truly said. Actually, Buhari's non-challance is partly an attempt to prove that he is now a repentant democrat as he described himself in the build up to the 2015 election. It is, however, largely a manifestation of attitudinal weakness.

Buhari doesn't only show this weakness in political and State affairs; he does even in his family matters as revealed many times in Aisha's outcries, leaving his wife and family at the mercy of cabals and allowing the weel of State governance to be rolling at the dictates of the powers around him. Everyone of them keeps running country affairs gleefully while Buhari silently looks on as if he is helpless.
Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by senatordave1(m): 2:40pm On May 23, 2020
FuckAllTheMODs:

The primary mode will only favor the most popular and accepted candidate among the local party members or will members that registered in other states be eligible to vote?...
Irregularities will come up and this will throw the game open.
The game is deep...

Yes theoretically but in reality,you are at the mercy of the primaries committee

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Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by Dibodibo(m): 2:48pm On May 23, 2020
[quote author=FuckAllTheMODs post=89864075] .
what happened in zamfara and Rivers is that, INEC clearly started that there was no primary in both states , INEC clearly claimed that they did not observed any APC primary election. So, stop comparing Zamfara to Edo. There will be primary in EDO state just like imo and ogun( Rochas and co)

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Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by Clevite(m): 2:51pm On May 23, 2020
duwdu:


My thinking and sentiments, exactly. Meanwhile, some people never recognize that some charlatans simply know how to drop names - Buhari's especially - in the current political dispensation. Thanks for posting.

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They have been doing it already. And he doesn't care who among them is right or wrong. Whoever among the name droppers has enough wits and mussles to win over the other in the rough game is acceptable to the man Buhari.

Think about how Amosun presented his candidate on another party platform against all his party's internal decorum. At the end of the day, what did Buhari do? He received Akinlade, Amosun's Guber candidate under another party, with an open embrace at Aso Rock. He almost lifted up the hands of the man at the APC rally in Abeokuta Stadium. He did similar thing in Imo State with Okorocha's candidate.

At the end of the day, Buhari told everyone of them in both States to go and vote for whoever they liked! Imagine that!! At APC's rally!!! Buhari's political philosophy seems to be 'The end justifies the means', it doesn't matter what manner of means it is.

So, for Obaseki or anyone to think that Buhari is on the Governor's side, willy-nilly, will be politically suicidal for the man Obaseki.

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Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by Clevite(m): 2:59pm On May 23, 2020
Charly68:
And you think he is fighting in the right direction..?
To me, Obaseki is fighting a lost battle already. I hope I'm proved wrong eventually. But if the dynamics remain unchanging as currently ongoing till the primary election, which doesn't appear to be largely in his favour, then Obaseki may have to be working on Plan B outside APC.

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Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by Clevite(m): 3:05pm On May 23, 2020
duwdu:


This is reference material, and you're even totally decent in your way of making these points.

In the same vein, you've avoided having to drag in those issues some observers considered showcased even the more treacherous nature of Bukola Saraki. Those things, in fact, made Saraki's disgraceful loss in his bid to return to the Senate such sweet music to the ears of both the hierarchy and membership of his now erstwhile party, the APC!

Every treachery should have consequences.

'Nuf said.

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Yes. Above is just a synopsis of Saraki's subterfuge nature.

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Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by FuckAllTheMODs: 3:07pm On May 23, 2020
senatordave1:


Yes theoretically but in reality,you are at the mercy of the primaries committee


Let's watch and see how it goes.
Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by FuckAllTheMODs: 3:11pm On May 23, 2020
[quote author=Dibodibo post=89876099][/quote]

There were primary elections in the two states but the game changes(power tussle) and the court ordered INEC not to recognize the candidates fielded by the warring sides.
Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by seanfer(m): 3:22pm On May 23, 2020
FuckAllTheMODs:


There were primary elections in the two states but the game changes(power tussle) and the court ordered INEC not to recognize the candidates fielded by the warring sides.

The APC constitution gave only the NWC the power to organize primaries for Governorship election.
Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by OVB123: 3:47pm On May 23, 2020
Mynd44:
Obaseki need to remember what happened with Amosun/Akinlade and Ambode in 2018
Shut up ur mouth, if u don't know what to say. Our people say dat "the stone that u c strow towards can not blind u" since obaseki have seen d stone (danger) coming, he has decided to hid himself. so matta what wil happen Obaseki is 4 + 4. it is a sure banger.
Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by Asazwalingwa: 4:20pm On May 23, 2020
lagosrd:


Scared of who?
You don't know jack
Let alone Robinson.

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Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by EmmaOgbu(m): 4:57pm On May 23, 2020
NOETHNICITY:
I wonder why some incumbent are afraid of a system of primary that allows them to text their popularity among voters.

Obaseki has gotten everything all wrong, and in him see a drowning man




They are all aware of how votes are manipulated.
Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by moderatedguy: 6:48pm On May 23, 2020
KGREAT:

Because there is no credible election in Nigeria . Inec is controlled from the center hence oshiomole may have upper hand.
On the contrary the NGF is behind Obaseki to help influence decisions in INEC
Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by duwdu: 7:14pm On May 23, 2020
Clevite:

Truly said. Actually, Buhari's non-challance is partly an attempt to prove that he is now a repentant democrat as he described himself in the build up to the 2015 election. It is, however, largely a manifestation of attitudinal weakness.

Buhari doesn't only show this weakness in political and State affairs; he does even in his family matters as revealed many times in Aisha's outcries, leaving his wife and family at the mercy of cabals and allowing the weel of State governance to be rolling at the dictates of the powers around him. Everyone of them keeps running country affairs gleefully while Buhari silently looks on as if he is helpless.

I totally agree.

I don't remember whether or not the following take was my own original idea; but going back in history, I had since believed that the tough, no-nonsense, even semi-draconian aura surrounding the Buhari-Idiagbon military regime, must have been championed mainly by the second-in-command Idiagbon, not Buhari, who was the official Head of State.

Buhari may be resilient and relatively upright, but he is not forceful. And a forceful leader, who hopefully will also be somewhat upright - a la Jerry Rawlings - may be an optimum character our type of society needs in leadership, especially at this point in our evolutionary journey as a nation.

But hey, we'll eventually get to be mature as a nation; it may just end up taking a long time.

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Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by buhariguy(m): 7:26pm On May 23, 2020
chiefkpokp:

make lie lie kill u dere, wdey dere dey full urself.
i can come to see you in your area if you doubt me
Re: Obaseki: APC's NWC Has No Power To Decide Mode Of Primary In Edo by Afamed: 7:42pm On May 23, 2020
moderatedguy:
So he shld allow an illegality
Local champion with low IQ , how has direct, indirect or consesus become illegality in party primary?

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